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	<title>Comments on: California&#8217;s budget slate must be defeated</title>
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		<title>By: drothgery</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/neil_stevens/2009/05/05/californias-budget-slate-must-be-defeated/comment-page-1/#comment-2283</link>
		<dc:creator>drothgery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 05:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Changing tax rates is a normal function of government (we prefer to reduce them, the Donks prefer to increase them). You can&#039;t govern effectively when supermajorities are required to carry out normal government functions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Changing tax rates is a normal function of government (we prefer to reduce them, the Donks prefer to increase them). You can&#8217;t govern effectively when supermajorities are required to carry out normal government functions.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/neil_stevens/2009/05/05/californias-budget-slate-must-be-defeated/comment-page-1/#comment-2282</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 14:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flashreport.org/blog.php?postID=2009050517060687&quot;&gt;Rep. McClintock favors 1D and 1E&lt;/a&gt;.  I can buy that, though I disagree with giving the Democrats cover right now.

He agrees with me on the rest, it seems, and even makes another point against 1F though: 1F gives legislators incentive to raise taxes to raise their own salaries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.flashreport.org/blog.php?postID=2009050517060687">Rep. McClintock favors 1D and 1E</a>.  I can buy that, though I disagree with giving the Democrats cover right now.</p>
<p>He agrees with me on the rest, it seems, and even makes another point against 1F though: 1F gives legislators incentive to raise taxes to raise their own salaries.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/neil_stevens/2009/05/05/californias-budget-slate-must-be-defeated/comment-page-1/#comment-2281</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 14:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Republicans win for Governor and AG, plus majorities in the Assembly and the Senate.  That was only 15 years ago.

As for a conservative Governor... too bad we haven&#039;t had one since Deuk.  I&#039;m not even old enough to really remember him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republicans win for Governor and AG, plus majorities in the Assembly and the Senate.  That was only 15 years ago.</p>
<p>As for a conservative Governor&#8230; too bad we haven&#8217;t had one since Deuk.  I&#8217;m not even old enough to really remember him.</p>
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		<title>By: LibRick</title>
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		<dc:creator>LibRick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 13:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some here forget that in the past, we voted Reagan for for Governor, and passed Prop 13 that many homeowners continue to benefit from ... even if they got around it a bit by adding all kinds of assessments to property tax bills.

Even though I&#039;m a lib, I prefer a conservative Governor (not Arnold) to check the excesses of a liberal legislature. California seems to work best in this configuration. Doubt the legislature make up will change but a conservative Governor is doable. 

California may be down right now but we are far from out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some here forget that in the past, we voted Reagan for for Governor, and passed Prop 13 that many homeowners continue to benefit from &#8230; even if they got around it a bit by adding all kinds of assessments to property tax bills.</p>
<p>Even though I&#8217;m a lib, I prefer a conservative Governor (not Arnold) to check the excesses of a liberal legislature. California seems to work best in this configuration. Doubt the legislature make up will change but a conservative Governor is doable. </p>
<p>California may be down right now but we are far from out.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 10:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>won&#039;t be respected no matter what it says.

Hence, the importance of the GOP to use the upcoming Souter replacement hearings to educate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>won&#8217;t be respected no matter what it says.</p>
<p>Hence, the importance of the GOP to use the upcoming Souter replacement hearings to educate.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 09:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: drothgery</title>
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		<dc:creator>drothgery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 22:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think all the initiative-created special funds in the CA budget are absurd, and so is the supermajority rule (heck, that CA has never been broken up into three or four smaller states is absurd, but that&#039;s another story...), but I&#039;m still voting against this set of sham propositions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think all the initiative-created special funds in the CA budget are absurd, and so is the supermajority rule (heck, that CA has never been broken up into three or four smaller states is absurd, but that&#8217;s another story&#8230;), but I&#8217;m still voting against this set of sham propositions.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 19:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see no evidence that voting habits would be changed.  The supermajority keeps us from ruin.  I don&#039;t want to have to jmmove.

Do you live here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see no evidence that voting habits would be changed.  The supermajority keeps us from ruin.  I don&#8217;t want to have to jmmove.</p>
<p>Do you live here?</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 19:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Politics have a tendency to change quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Politics have a tendency to change quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: IJB</title>
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		<dc:creator>IJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 19:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been arguing for ages that the 2/3 budget provision has actually been insulating the CA electorate from its own worse impulses - allowing them to be &quot;saved&quot; time and again from their own insane politics by Republicans in the CA legislature. 

The quickest way to see a rebound in Republican fortunes in CA is to remove the 2/3 budget requirement, and let the loony Left in the Legislature start indulging their budgetary and fiscal worst impulses to their hearts&#039; content. 

I guarantee, even some deep blue voters in this state would quickly change their tune if that happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been arguing for ages that the 2/3 budget provision has actually been insulating the CA electorate from its own worse impulses &#8211; allowing them to be &#8220;saved&#8221; time and again from their own insane politics by Republicans in the CA legislature. </p>
<p>The quickest way to see a rebound in Republican fortunes in CA is to remove the 2/3 budget requirement, and let the loony Left in the Legislature start indulging their budgetary and fiscal worst impulses to their hearts&#8217; content. </p>
<p>I guarantee, even some deep blue voters in this state would quickly change their tune if that happens.</p>
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		<title>By: IJB</title>
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		<dc:creator>IJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 19:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s pretty much a given. 

The kind of people Janice refers to are all over this state, and are totally immune to reason or persuasion. 

And it&#039;s not just about abortion - many, many California&#039;s are true blue socialists (or worse) in every sense of the word. 

That said, I&#039;m personally hoping that the current residents of CA make it so unlivable for themselves that they all decamp to Mexico and Europe, allowing a bunch of newcomers to come to the state and start over...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s pretty much a given. </p>
<p>The kind of people Janice refers to are all over this state, and are totally immune to reason or persuasion. </p>
<p>And it&#8217;s not just about abortion &#8211; many, many California&#8217;s are true blue socialists (or worse) in every sense of the word. </p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;m personally hoping that the current residents of CA make it so unlivable for themselves that they all decamp to Mexico and Europe, allowing a bunch of newcomers to come to the state and start over&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kweiss01</title>
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		<dc:creator>kweiss01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 17:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even the Democrats are getting wobbly on 1A, at least.  The party won&#039;t support it or go against it - they&#039;re too divided.  Maybe the message of the tea parties is starting to penetrate some thick heads in our legislature.  Or maybe I&#039;m a foolish optimist, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even the Democrats are getting wobbly on 1A, at least.  The party won&#8217;t support it or go against it &#8211; they&#8217;re too divided.  Maybe the message of the tea parties is starting to penetrate some thick heads in our legislature.  Or maybe I&#8217;m a foolish optimist, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 17:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No political situation is permanent.  We&#039;re just not in a great spot right now, and I blame almost entirely the Supreme Court and its illegal decisions on abortion.

If we could get past that insane, unconstitutional polarization on abortion, we&#039;d be much better off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No political situation is permanent.  We&#8217;re just not in a great spot right now, and I blame almost entirely the Supreme Court and its illegal decisions on abortion.</p>
<p>If we could get past that insane, unconstitutional polarization on abortion, we&#8217;d be much better off.</p>
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		<title>By: civil_truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>civil_truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 17:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s up to the legislature to come up with a budget that makes the hard decisions - cut spending or face the heat from raising taxes. Voting these propositions down will send a message for the legislature that tax increases and illegal borrowing (if the courts really wanted to enforce the CA constitution rather than wink at these &quot;borrowings&quot;) are not acceptible.

Besides, even if these measure pass, the state still has a growing budget deficit to deal with.

Now I recognize that someone may argue that voting these measures down will lead to the next step by the Democrats of putting an initiative on the 2010 budget to end the 2/3rds vote on budgets, which would open the door to massive tax increases and remove that last bit leverage the Republican Party has in the state (barring an unlikely conservative Republican win in the 2010 governor&#039;s race).

But the left is going to put such a initiative on the ballot anyway - even if the propositions pass - so this is a red herring. And also, elections have consequences - if the people succumb to deception and vote for fiscal apocalypse and one-party dictatorship, so be it. I just hope I could find a way to leave the state in time in that case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s up to the legislature to come up with a budget that makes the hard decisions &#8211; cut spending or face the heat from raising taxes. Voting these propositions down will send a message for the legislature that tax increases and illegal borrowing (if the courts really wanted to enforce the CA constitution rather than wink at these &#8220;borrowings&#8221;) are not acceptible.</p>
<p>Besides, even if these measure pass, the state still has a growing budget deficit to deal with.</p>
<p>Now I recognize that someone may argue that voting these measures down will lead to the next step by the Democrats of putting an initiative on the 2010 budget to end the 2/3rds vote on budgets, which would open the door to massive tax increases and remove that last bit leverage the Republican Party has in the state (barring an unlikely conservative Republican win in the 2010 governor&#8217;s race).</p>
<p>But the left is going to put such a initiative on the ballot anyway &#8211; even if the propositions pass &#8211; so this is a red herring. And also, elections have consequences &#8211; if the people succumb to deception and vote for fiscal apocalypse and one-party dictatorship, so be it. I just hope I could find a way to leave the state in time in that case.</p>
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		<title>By: Janice Cantore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janice Cantore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 17:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only bright spot here is that so far, the initiatives are losing.  Even my mother, a &quot;never vote for any one but a democrat&quot; is voting no on the initiatives.  But this could change once the union money starts saturating the airwaves.  And the bottom line, no matter how angry democrats say they are about taxes, every single elected state democrat will be re-elected, every single democrat responsible for the mess this state is in will be re-elected.  Some turn coat republicans will lose, but they are inconsequential anyway.  

There is such a disconnect here.  When I remind my liberal brother, who complains about high taxes  and illegal immigration,  that it is is liberal democrat policies that have bankrupted this state, he tells me I&#039;m wrong and I just don&#039;t understand how government works.  My fear is that the majority of people in this country see things just the way he does.  This country is doomed to follow California&#039;s example, especially with the little tyrant in the white house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only bright spot here is that so far, the initiatives are losing.  Even my mother, a &#8220;never vote for any one but a democrat&#8221; is voting no on the initiatives.  But this could change once the union money starts saturating the airwaves.  And the bottom line, no matter how angry democrats say they are about taxes, every single elected state democrat will be re-elected, every single democrat responsible for the mess this state is in will be re-elected.  Some turn coat republicans will lose, but they are inconsequential anyway.  </p>
<p>There is such a disconnect here.  When I remind my liberal brother, who complains about high taxes  and illegal immigration,  that it is is liberal democrat policies that have bankrupted this state, he tells me I&#8217;m wrong and I just don&#8217;t understand how government works.  My fear is that the majority of people in this country see things just the way he does.  This country is doomed to follow California&#8217;s example, especially with the little tyrant in the white house.</p>
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		<title>By: larryp</title>
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		<dc:creator>larryp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 16:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the nationwide ones. It was created by KFI640 radio hosts John and Ken. The Left-Angeles Times chose to cover 12 protestors atthe Federal Builing that Saturday. But at the rally there were 15,000 people! And there were 20 to 40 yr olds and moms with babes in strollers, And Dad and Democrats and Republicans etc. It was fabulous. and now there is another one coming up to 
support No on A-F</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the nationwide ones. It was created by KFI640 radio hosts John and Ken. The Left-Angeles Times chose to cover 12 protestors atthe Federal Builing that Saturday. But at the rally there were 15,000 people! And there were 20 to 40 yr olds and moms with babes in strollers, And Dad and Democrats and Republicans etc. It was fabulous. and now there is another one coming up to<br />
support No on A-F</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas_Hauber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas_Hauber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 16:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget to support the recall efforts underway on some of these turncoats, I mean legislators.

Maldonado should be at the top of the list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget to support the recall efforts underway on some of these turncoats, I mean legislators.</p>
<p>Maldonado should be at the top of the list.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann "Babe" Huggett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann "Babe" Huggett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 16:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve already sent in my mail-in ballot and voted a resounding, &quot;NO!&quot; on ALL of the Propositions!  They are written specifically to be confusing and misleading.  California has too many bad laws as it is.  We don&#039;t need any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve already sent in my mail-in ballot and voted a resounding, &#8220;NO!&#8221; on ALL of the Propositions!  They are written specifically to be confusing and misleading.  California has too many bad laws as it is.  We don&#8217;t need any more.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 15:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pe.com/localnews/politics/stories/PE_News_Local_S_prop1a29.ceef5f.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Field Poll looked OK&lt;/a&gt; but there&#039;s a long way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.pe.com/localnews/politics/stories/PE_News_Local_S_prop1a29.ceef5f.html" rel="nofollow">Field Poll looked OK</a> but there&#8217;s a long way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: $peciallist</title>
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		<dc:creator>$peciallist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 15:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I see on TV is &#039;Yes on&#039; ads...it&#039;s going to be a tough battle....word of mouth is what we need to do...Tell your friends and family..

NO...1a through 1f</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I see on TV is &#8216;Yes on&#8217; ads&#8230;it&#8217;s going to be a tough battle&#8230;.word of mouth is what we need to do&#8230;Tell your friends and family..</p>
<p>NO&#8230;1a through 1f</p>
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