New Jersey’s Gov. Chris Christie is trying the Damn Near Impossible: Save New Jersey from Economic Ruin.
One thing is he is trying to do is rein in the entitlements of the Teachers Union. Read this article with regards to the response by the teachers of New Jersey’s youth.
While the Teachers Union in Florida were more restrained (for the most part) when confronted by SB6, make no mistake, they were just as aggressive as the Jersey Crew. Don’t be fooled, A union puts the interests of its members before any other constituency, REGARDLESS of the impact on others. That’s what Unions do.
When I waded into the SB6 debate here, it provoked numerous emails and comments, ranging from rude to mildly condescending. Terms such as “Ignorant” and “Unqualified” were commonplace by the teachers, who obviously think no one other than a teacher can make decisions on education.
When I came back with my response (here), nary a peep from the peanut gallery. Then Charlie caved in to the Teachers Union ( And please, don’t tell me Charlie stood on principles, he has none) and all is well… that is until this November Election when the repeal of the Florida Constitutional Amendment that reduced class sizes, one of the most foolish and spendthrift decisions made by Florida voters in a generation, is on the table.
Unlike SB6, which suffered from too much “sausage making” in the legislative process, this will be a clear cut and easy decision for the voter. Repealing this amendment will save the State BILLIONS in wasteful spending with little or no impact on our children’s education. Expect the Teachers Union of Florida to pour money in trying to get the voter to vote to keep the class size amendment in place.
Just remember what’s happening in New Jersey. It is never about the best interests of the children or the state with any Teachers Union…it is always about themselves, the Union Members. I suggest you keep that in mind and vote accordingly.
Steve Maley
KnightsofMalta
I'm a little confused here.
Menlo (Diary) Wednesday, April 21st at 1:12AM EST (link)Was this a proposal to base a teacher’s pay on the students’ grades? I heard about that, and I thought it was the most horrible idea I had ever heard of. Besides being totally unfair to teachers, one of the biggest problems I saw in school was teachers who passed students just to pass them. Teachers would give completion grades on pretty much everything. Fill in the blank and get 100. Do people want an incentive for teachers to dumb down the students even more?
Maybe I am misunderstanding the proposal, but that’s how I understood it.
As for smaller classes, it sounds very nice. However, I don’t see how that really hurts or helps the learning environment. Seldom is there going to be a one-size-fits-all education policy that works well for almost everyone.
“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter
Maybe this will help, Menlo.
Fla Mom (Diary) Wednesday, April 21st at 9:32AM EST (link)Basically, it eliminated teacher tenure and pay-for-breathing and tied pay to individual student improvement based on standardized test scores. The problem with the Florida Constitutional Amendment mandating classroom sizes, aside from legislating via constitutional amendment, is that its purpose was simply to mandate an increase in union-dues-paying teachers, not really to benefit students, who may or may not need a particular classroom size to learn well. Decisions like that are best made locally, not from Tallahassee, the state capital. To quote you, “Seldom is there going to be a one-size-fits-all education policy that works well for almost everyone.”
A couple of sources of info:
From http://www.wtsp.com/news/mostpop/story.aspx?storyid=128236&provider=top
“The bill ties half of a teacher’s pay to student test scores. It is also eliminates multi-year contracts for annual contracts. School districts that don’t set up this new evaluation system are financially penalized and would have to turn to a local tax to recover the money lost.”
From Jeb Bush, via http://blog.reidreport.com/2010/04/todays-herald-column-debating-sb6-with-jeb-bush/
“Florida’s stunning and sustained progress began a decade ago after Florida enacted the A+ Plan.
“Since that bold — and controversial — legislation became law, Florida has graded schools based solely on student performance on the FCAT. The result: more students are learning. In fact, since the annual progress of students with disabilities was added to the school grade, their performance has improved. Those schools that earn an A or improve a letter grade — even from an F to a D — get a cash reward, which is used primarily for bonuses to teachers and staff.
“Using a similar model, Senate Bill 6 will make learning a measure of effective teaching and will reward teachers whose students make progress. Because some students start the school year below grade level, teachers will not be measured on what their students know. Rather, teachers will be measured on how much each individual student learns during the year. Students will not be compared with each other, only to their own progress from one year to the next. Moreover, the bill requires even higher salaries for truly exceptional teachers who help their students make up for lost ground.
“Nearly half of all teachers leave the profession in the first 10 years, many because of the low pay in the early years. Rewarding effectiveness instead of longevity will keep the best of the best in our classrooms. …”
Hope this helps-
Fla Mom
I can't think of a worse idea
Menlo (Diary) Wednesday, April 21st at 10:52AM EST (link)Who is to say a standardized test score is a valid measure of learning? I had to do these stupid test-taking drills certain years in middle school, and we didn’t really learn anything of value. These tests are not good measures. More importantly, why is it necessarily the teacher’s fault if students do poorly on anything – especially one thing (a standardized test)? Same goes for students who do well. That sounds not only stupid but also draconian.
I don’t know what the answer is for teacher pay, but I know for sure that is a move in the wrong direction any way you look at it.
“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter
You sound like a teacher, Menlo.
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, April 21st at 11:21AM EST (link)Yes I know that tests test what tests test, but at least they demonstrate that the student knows something. It shouldn’t be hard to get some concensus that at this grade level Johnny should be able to read and comprehand something and be able to calculate something else. The problem isn’t the testing. The problem is that we don’t want to admit that some people are stupid and some people are so unmotivated that they might as well be stupid and we aren’t willing to let the lazy and stupid fail. It was the Ed Schools and teacher groups who led the charge for all the subjective grading, grade inflation, and all the celebrate diversity crap to disguise the fact that large numbers of students, especially minority students, simply weren’t making the grade.
I blame the whole education industry for turning Americans into a bunch of lazy, excuse making illiterates over the last thirty or so years. Whether they were following Gramsci, or just being stupid liberals is irrelevant, the result was the same; Johnny Can’t Read – or write, or think, but s/he can vote for people like Comrade Obama and other lazy, unthinking, excuse making sorts.
All that said, I don’t like merit pay either and for many of the same reasons. I’ve seen lots of attempts to use merit pay and it rarely works well in any environment and won’t work at all in a unionized environment. In any enviroment “merit” is usually more a measure of one’s sociability and ability to “get along” with the boss than of any other skills. In the unionized environment, the union attacks unsatisfactory evaluations and supervisors who give them and before long all the employees are above average and getting the merit pay.
In Vino Veritas
I can't argue with that.
Menlo (Diary) Wednesday, April 21st at 1:33PM EST (link)I’m not a teacher, although it is a field I am seriously considering getting into. You have highlighted what I saw throughout both school and college as THE biggest problem by far.
It would amaze me to see kids who were too lazy, unmotivated, or stupid to do even the simplest, most dumbed-down tasks and assignments. Even then, the teachers would curve grades upwards. This got to be a problem in my senior year of college when there was a team report in one of my classes. How do you write a report as a team when the other members can’t write beyond a middle-school level?!
“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter
Agree fully Achance.
realskinny (Diary) Wednesday, April 21st at 11:54AM EST (link)The socialist schools created when government run consolidated schools destroyed the public schools run by the parents have miserably failed to provide an educated populace.
I don’t believe most young teachers quit because of low pay. Most I’ve talked to quit because they can’t stand the oppressive political correctness, the inability to discipline, the favoritism and extreme alienation among many students and staff.
Today’s schools and prisons have two things in common, they are both state institutions and most of the people in them want to get out.
You mean, want to get out early, right? nt
RoguePolitics (Diary) Wednesday, April 21st at 8:24PM EST (link)“So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don’t even know that fire is hot.” George Orwell
“Ancient Rome declined because it had a Senate, now what’s going to happen to us with both a House and a Senate?” Will Rogers
When the American spirit was in its youth, the language of America was different: Liberty, sir, was the primary object. Patrick Henry
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Because Washington is NOT going to fix Washington.