Please forgive the brevity of this post. It’s intended as more of a news item than a posting of analysis.
According to my sources, former Arkansas governer Mike Huckabee is seriously considering venturing back into the GOP 2012 presidential race. If he decides to do so, he’ll likely announce within the week.
ANALYSIS
As RedState’s likely staunchest Huckabee supporter in 2008, I have mixed feelings about him throwing his hat into the ring. I think Herman Cain is a better selection this time around. If Huckabee is concerned about the current field, specifically Romney and Perry, I’m not sure what he brings to the table now. His stance on state college tuition assistance to children of illegal immigrants is nearly identical to Gov. Perry’s…and we all know how that’s worked out for Perry in the last few days. Perry is also perceived as stronger on crime (due to Huckabee’s perceived pardon problem as Governor).
Huckabee’s support of the Fair Tax has now been pre-empted with Cain’s 9-9-9. He’s a good debator, but so is Cain.
I’d love to see Mike as Secretary of HHS under a Cain administration.
Victoria Coates
Daniel Horowitz
A ticket with Huckabee on it would get this independent's support for the GOP
progressivelibertarian Monday, September 26th at 7:14PM EST (link)in 2012. Huckabee/Huntsman duo in the whitehouse would be good for the country, in my view.
Well, that makes sense given your screen name.
Melody Warbington (rwm52) (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 7:37PM EST (link)To the rest of us, not so much.
The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh (he that is called Christ): when he is come, he will declare unto us all things. (John 4:25)
I'm not sure I see it, rwm52.
acat (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 7:43PM EST (link)Huntsman answers the progressive part, but Huckster ain’t no libertarian.
Mew
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“All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost”. –Tolkein
acat, I was thinking more the other way around,
Melody Warbington (rwm52) (Diary) Tuesday, September 27th at 12:44AM EST (link)but honestly, I was thinking of Johnson rather than Huntsman. In any event, I was tagging Huck as the progressive because he sure ain’t a conservative!
The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh (he that is called Christ): when he is come, he will declare unto us all things. (John 4:25)
Doesn't really work that way either..
acat (Diary) Tuesday, September 27th at 1:08AM EST (link)Huntsman’s no libertarian, unless you mean in a Ron Paul sort of way.. that is, making up whatever garbage he feels like saying and calling it Libertarianism.
Mew
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“All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost”. –Tolkein
Please will you explain
Scope (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 7:46PM EST (link)where a Huckabee ( not running) and Huntsman ticket will accomplish anything? Please be specific and give details as the debate moderators from Fox require it?
Our political system has been corrupted to the core,
progressivelibertarian Monday, September 26th at 8:37PM EST (link)on both sides of the aisle. Massive policy changes as well as political reforms are badly needed to right the ship of our country, in both economic and political terms, lest we hit a point of no return.
Gov. Huckabee has the courage, integrity and the strength of mind, as well as genuine love and caring for the people, to stand up against that corruption. Gov. Hunstman is apparently also a man of great integrity, and I feel that they’d make a good team in steering the country in a better direction.
Show me one of these "reforms" that Huck got done in Arkansas.
acat (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 8:40PM EST (link)Term limits for the statehouse?
Some sort of inspector general clause?
Strengthened the role of the A.G.?
A Palin-style “anyone can file an ethics complaint” bill?
Anything?
Just what did the good citizens of Arkansas get, other than higher taxes, for electing this guitar-pickin’ preacher man?
Mew
(and why is someone claiming to be a libertarian spamming all over about him?)
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“All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost”. –Tolkein
If all the mud that was slung at Huck were true
QuoVadisAnima Monday, September 26th at 10:13PM EST (link)Then how do you explain that he came into office as governor of AR with $200million in debt & the state infrastructure in a shambles thanks to the pillaging of the Clintons and Jim Guy Tucker – and left the state with an $850million surplus and a largely revamped infrastructure?
And he did it with a largely hostile majority Democrat legislature to boot.
There’s a reason that Huckabee was re-elected – and still popular enough to be re-elected when he left office due to term limits. And surely you can’t be so blinded by your obvious bias as to believe that it was due to higher taxes,..
he was a big government type
Doc Holliday (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 10:20PM EST (link)in a purple Southern state. Huck is more likely to ban french fries than enhance liberty.
Molon Labe!
Bunk
QuoVadisAnima Tuesday, September 27th at 1:05AM EST (link)But even if your unsupported claims were true – then I will dump my belief in subsidiarity for your so-called big govt because the point is that what he did in his state was successful. And we just so happen to have a deficit that needs fixing as well as an economy that needs growing. Name one other candidate – or potential candidate – who can claim to have successfully managed a billion dollar turnaround of a state’s economy.
You know, even Milton Friedman advocated intervention in an economy that needs correcting because of previous interventions. He stated that unnatural imbalances have difficulty correcting naturally.
Huckabee is a big government liberal
IronDioPriest (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 7:40PM EST (link)Next. Please.
“If we finally fail in this great and glorious contest, it will be by bewildering ourselves in groping for the middle way.”
-John Adams, 1776
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Huckabee is a conservative with a populist bent
progressivelibertarian Monday, September 26th at 8:18PM EST (link)Thanks to the work of Huckabee as governor for 10.5 years, Arkansas still has among most fiscally sound conditions (as well as lower unemployment rate than national) of any state in the country. As a Republican (presumably), shouldn’t you be embracing genuine successes of republican politicians?
Huckabee raised taxes, increased the bureaucracy, and raised taxes again.
acat (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 8:38PM EST (link)Huck is not any kind of conservative.
Mew
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“All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost”. –Tolkein
You are a professional and/or compulsive attacker of Huckabee
progressivelibertarian Monday, September 26th at 8:47PM EST (link)You do a disservice to this site, your party and the country with your approach.
I’ll be back to briefly respond to your comment in a few minutes.
Speaking truth is a disservice? Really?
acat (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 8:52PM EST (link)Look, go tell your master that he’s better off keeping the Fox gig, save us both a lot of time, ‘kay?
Mew
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“All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost”. –Tolkein
Why is Huckabee a conversation piece now?
Scope (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 9:04PM EST (link)Dis he change his position and announce that he is going to run? Maybe he and Christie could announce as a joined ticket?
Didn't the Huckabots said at the time that his withdrawal was conditional?
acat (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 9:08PM EST (link)Perhaps they’re thinking he can come back and whup up on Mitt like he utterly failed to do last time?
Mew
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“All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost”. –Tolkein
to his country?
Doc Holliday (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 9:01PM EST (link)why not just say he hates apple pie and fireworks and be done with it? BTW, Huck sucks.
Molon Labe!
kowalski
Doc Holliday (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 9:01PM EST (link)he is ok on Fox, he should stay there. I rarely watch him, he is usually up against Stossel of The Judge.
Molon Labe!
Yee Haw, acat! I'm so glad to read your comment.
pttx333 (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 8:55PM EST (link)I had just commented to Scope about Huck and that he always gave me the willies. You have confirmed my belief in that. He is no conservative, and I am offended by his wearing his Christianity on his sleeve. I am a Christian, descended from a long line of ministers, deacons, etc., and none of them ever behaved as he does about it. Everyone knew they were Christians by the way they lived, and they never said a word.
Thanks for all of your comments, acat. They are most informative, and I certainly appreciate them so very much. I’ve learned so much in the short time I’ve been on RS – there are some really good folks here.
pttx- Be very careful of the Cat
Scope (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 9:12PM EST (link)He’s really mean and terrible and will scratch your eyes out in a second. LOL I keep wondering if he’s come the longest way, or if I have. Doesn’t matter we’ve surely found some middles in there. Huh Cat?
I think, Scope, that we both proved the word Conservative comes first in our respective hyphenations.
acat (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 9:14PM EST (link)I’m a conservative-libertarian, you’re a conservative-socialist. Wait, no, that’s not right!
(cheshire grin)
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“All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost”. –Tolkein
Can I smack you now Cat
Scope (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 9:31PM EST (link)My cat is bigger than your cat, and she has reallllly long claws that can reach you all the way in Cha ca go. Watch yourself there big guy. LOL
No, but I will flip the joke if you like.
acat (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 9:35PM EST (link)You’re a Conservative-Social-Values person, I’m a Conservative-Libertine*
Mew
* This is no more true than calling Scope a socialist, Neil.
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“All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost”. –Tolkein
Neil agrees with you Acat
Doc Holliday (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 9:39PM EST (link)but you are the fluffy, friendly libertine. I am like libertine original formula, you know that nasty yellow stuff that burns like crazy.
Molon Labe!
Cat and Scope: You're both hopeless! LOL n/t
pttx333 (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 9:38PM EST (link),,,
And also rapidly becoming changeless...
acat (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 9:48PM EST (link)Illinois income tax is up quite a bit.
Mew
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“All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost”. –Tolkein
pttx- You have to understand that Cat is like Bushisms
Scope (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 10:00PM EST (link)“There’s an old saying in Tennessee, or maybe Texas too. You can fool me once, shame on you. If you fool me————- I can’t get fooled again.”
“Let me start off by saying that in 2000 I said, Vote for me, I’m an agent of change. In 2004 I said I’m not interested in change- – - I want to continue as president. Every candidate has got to say change. That’s what the American people expect.”
Yep, Scope - I've already figured out that Cat is
pttx333 (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 10:05PM EST (link)full of it, but in a sweet way that is also hilarious. Whoops, don’t tell him I said that – okay? I just happen to like folks who are full of it …
Ronald Reagan raised taxes, gave amnesty
progressivelibertarian Tuesday, September 27th at 12:19AM EST (link)to illegal/undocumented migrants, and even passed the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) in 1986, partly to help the illegal migrants. So you’d disqualify him?
Dubya, on the other hand, ‘cut taxes’ (in reality, the Bush ‘tax cuts’ just tacked on 1.7 trillion to the national debt). And so you’d vote for Dubya over the Gipper?
Huckabee needed to raise taxes as budget shortfalls were expected and, like most other states, Arkansas doesn’t allow deficit budgets. But he also gave many tax cuts (see his book for details), despite a massively Democratic state legislature (Arkansas has been voting GOP in presidential elections, but their state legislature is 90% Democratic, and Huckabee was only the second GOP governor there since reconstruction, i.e. it’s heavily Democratic state in state/local elections.)
AR’s gross state product (GSP) increased by a robust 60.7% during Huckabee’s tenure as governor, and the state’s median household income rose by 36.6% during 1996-2006, higher than the national average of 35.8% for the same period, and higher than all of AR’s neighboring states other than Oklahoma (MO 30.1%, TN 32.2%, MS 30.2%, LA 20.6%, TX 30.9%, OK 41.6%).
Overall, Huckabee’s pro-growth and pro-people policies and governance helped turn a ~$200 million budget shortfall into a ~$1 billion surplus by the time Huckabee left office. Had he returned to the office, he would have given large tax cuts using that surplus. The analyses done by anti-tax groups about his tax policies do not seem to have taken into account the budget surplus that he left behind.
The Huckster is not running, did you get the memo?
Doc Holliday (Diary) Tuesday, September 27th at 12:24AM EST (link)So the Bush tax cuts tacked on debt? I guess you are a Keynsian socialist. Ever hear of reducing the size of government? Ever hear of getting out of the way of the free market? Ever hear of the money multiplier?
Look, I had a soft spot for Alexander Haig, but he will not be running for president in 2012. And if you want me to start making fun of Arkansas, that can be done.
Molon Labe!
there is no such thing as a "progressive libertarian"
Doc Holliday (Diary) Tuesday, September 27th at 12:30AM EST (link)sounds like code for a civil libertarian, ACLU type.
Molon Labe!
I must defer to Neil. A progressive libertarian would be a libertine.
acat (Diary) Tuesday, September 27th at 1:12AM EST (link)(cheshire grin)
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“All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost”. –Tolkein
well he is your pal
Doc Holliday (Diary) Tuesday, September 27th at 1:20AM EST (link)you should know
Molon Labe!
Not sure that's how I'd put it.
acat (Diary) Tuesday, September 27th at 1:23AM EST (link)More like I’m the boring chew-toy. You’re the one who squeaks.
Mew
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“All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost”. –Tolkein
heh, you still have your stuff Acat
Doc Holliday (Diary) Tuesday, September 27th at 1:27AM EST (link)even if I wanted to not like you, I couldn’t lol.
Molon Labe!
should have read "if I wanted to be mad at you"
Doc Holliday (Diary) Tuesday, September 27th at 1:38AM EST (link)I could never not like you. Ok, I need to go watch the Good the Bad and the Ugly after saying that, it is either that or time for a dress lol.
Molon Labe!
he seems to know about them
Doc Holliday (Diary) Tuesday, September 27th at 1:24AM EST (link)I have never met one, but I am not the free spirit I sometimes sound like lol.
Molon Labe!
I am more tobacco spit and gunpowder
Doc Holliday (Diary) Tuesday, September 27th at 1:26AM EST (link)than the Marquis de sade and buttless chaps.
Molon Labe!
I know what you mean.
aesthete (Diary) Tuesday, September 27th at 3:03AM EST (link)I look at the “people” who pass themselves off as being men and women, and I wonder, “where do they find these folks?”
The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton
Nope.
IronDioPriest (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 8:45PM EST (link)Huckabee is a pro-life liberal who cynically uses Christianity as a cloak for his liberalism.
“If we finally fail in this great and glorious contest, it will be by bewildering ourselves in groping for the middle way.”
-John Adams, 1776
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Compassion for fellow beings is what Jesus preached and practiced.
progressivelibertarian Monday, September 26th at 8:53PM EST (link)If you equate compassion and the upliftment of the weak/poor with liberalism, you aren’t doing conservatism a favor.
Paging Cinco Solas. Cinco Solas, can you give this guy your "Two Kingdoms" speech, please?
acat (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 8:56PM EST (link)It really belongs in a diary anyway, Cinco.
Mew
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“All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost”. –Tolkein
It would be lost on this one...nt.
NightTwister (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 8:58PM EST (link)no text
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill
Afraid I agree, Night.
acat (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 9:05PM EST (link)I’m going to go cash my paycheck from the Anti-Huckabee Conspiracy. I really wish these guys would get on the ball and set me up with direct deposit.
Mew
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“All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost”. –Tolkein
There's nothing wrong with having compassion for your fellow man
lineholder (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 9:24PM EST (link)It can, does, and has been a problem when someone who possesses this quality of compassion is elected into the highest office within our government, lets their compassion overrule their common sense, can’t say “no” if their life depended on it, and ends up acting as a compulsive enabler for big-government social programs that we can’t afford!!!
compassion is a decent trait
Doc Holliday (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 9:35PM EST (link)for every statist with compassion, there are ten who simply believe they are born kings and we are pawns. Their compassion is for our stupidity and their greatness.
Molon Labe!
With all due respect to you and Huck...
lastgopinillinois (Diary) Tuesday, September 27th at 1:10AM EST (link)Jesus did NOT preach that the Roman empire should give to the poor. The Roman empire (and the Federal government) are worldly establishments.
God has NO interest in judging establishments.
Jesus DID preach that people should give to charity, after all it is the people whom God will judge in the end.
There are MANY Christian churches whose clergy FAILS to recognioze this.
Huck falls in their catagory. They are scerewed up!
In the beginning, God created earth to be an extension of his vast Kingdom and his LOVE was so great that he wanted to share it with man, whom he created in his own image and likeness and gave him free will.
To this very principal, the Founding Fathers of our nation decreed that freedom is a God-given in-alienable right of all the people.
Exactly
timkellogg Monday, September 26th at 8:13PM EST (link)Cain’s just fine, thanks =)
…speaking only for myself with the Herman reference, of course, but NO to Huckabee. Let him carry-on with his tv show and washed-up musicians who can no-longer sing on-key…
Why doesn't Cain want the FED to be audited?
progressivelibertarian Monday, September 26th at 8:20PM EST (link)What does that say about his views on accountability?
Unlike Ron Paul, Cain knows it's a waste of time and money?
acat (Diary) Monday, September 26th at 8:37PM EST (link)Seriously, auditing the Fed is going to cost money. Tax dollars will be spent.
Before I spend any of hte folding dead presidents I went out and earned, I want to know what the value I’m going to receive is. Catnip margerita? Well-marbled dry-aged ribeye? Bucket of popcorn and two movie tickets?
Perhaps Cain has asked the same question and found Luap Nor’s fishing expedition not worth funding.
Mew
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“All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost”. –Tolkein
Auditing brings accountability
progressivelibertarian Monday, September 26th at 9:48PM EST (link)You don’t want an agency that controls trillions of dollars and affects the entire economy to be audited? What kind of a “conservative” are you? You sound like an establishment operative to me.