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		<title>By: penguin2</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/morstar150/2009/09/21/dunbar-village-gang-rape/#comment-27</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a major cause of the degradation of our general American culture.  Hollywood and the liberals infiltrated everywhere have caused two things:  acceptance of a loose, decadent , sexually driven public persona and 2)  minimizing crimes and punishment across the board, for decades.  Since the media /newspapers do not publish the real stories and facts, and thus put into the public consciousness how bad these crimes are, they have been instrumental in bringing us to this state of affairs.  

The real issue is acceptance in our society of heinous crimes.  The bleeding heart liberals have made the bad guys into the victims and the victims become the bad guys.  If no one proclaims the moral outrage, there isn&#039;t any.  IMO, people have forgotten the definition of same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a major cause of the degradation of our general American culture.  Hollywood and the liberals infiltrated everywhere have caused two things:  acceptance of a loose, decadent , sexually driven public persona and 2)  minimizing crimes and punishment across the board, for decades.  Since the media /newspapers do not publish the real stories and facts, and thus put into the public consciousness how bad these crimes are, they have been instrumental in bringing us to this state of affairs.  </p>
<p>The real issue is acceptance in our society of heinous crimes.  The bleeding heart liberals have made the bad guys into the victims and the victims become the bad guys.  If no one proclaims the moral outrage, there isn&#8217;t any.  IMO, people have forgotten the definition of same.</p>
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		<title>By: morstar150</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/morstar150/2009/09/21/dunbar-village-gang-rape/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>morstar150</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a side note to this story.  Fortunately, the judges in this case are good people, not the Vermont type judge who placed a pedifile on probation.  These animals will be in jail for the rest of their lives.  I just wonder why it is so easy to corrupt my children, with drugs, with violence, with disrepect of common decency, with the immorality of a decadent media culture.

The fault lies first with a &quot;village&quot; mentality that says it is okay to father a child without any consequences.  For goodness sake even the lowly earthworm can reproduce that&#039;s not an accomplishment it is an act.  It takes a real man to be a father; it takes a decent person to be a mother and it takes just one mistake to perpetuate the problem.  It&#039;s not that hard to be a grown up and exercise responsibility.  I am so sick and tired of the excuses and the common denominator of low expectations.  Our schools quite frankly...

finish it yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a side note to this story.  Fortunately, the judges in this case are good people, not the Vermont type judge who placed a pedifile on probation.  These animals will be in jail for the rest of their lives.  I just wonder why it is so easy to corrupt my children, with drugs, with violence, with disrepect of common decency, with the immorality of a decadent media culture.</p>
<p>The fault lies first with a &#8220;village&#8221; mentality that says it is okay to father a child without any consequences.  For goodness sake even the lowly earthworm can reproduce that&#8217;s not an accomplishment it is an act.  It takes a real man to be a father; it takes a decent person to be a mother and it takes just one mistake to perpetuate the problem.  It&#8217;s not that hard to be a grown up and exercise responsibility.  I am so sick and tired of the excuses and the common denominator of low expectations.  Our schools quite frankly&#8230;</p>
<p>finish it yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Whitesands</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/morstar150/2009/09/21/dunbar-village-gang-rape/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>Whitesands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I first heard of this incident i was disgusted as you are. There is no place or tolerance for this in a moral society. We can only hope that parents will try and instill morality to their children. Yes the media has turned a blind eye to helping parents accomplish a moral goal for the most part. The responsibility still lies with the individuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first heard of this incident i was disgusted as you are. There is no place or tolerance for this in a moral society. We can only hope that parents will try and instill morality to their children. Yes the media has turned a blind eye to helping parents accomplish a moral goal for the most part. The responsibility still lies with the individuals.</p>
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		<title>By: mom2oneson</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/morstar150/2009/09/21/dunbar-village-gang-rape/#comment-24</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t blame the media or MSM for this. It&#039;s the judicial system that will give these monsters a hand slap and send them to &quot;treatment&quot; for a year if anything. I would bet this isn&#039;t the first time they sexually assaulted someone. The same system keeps many many cases like this out of the court room too.

Cases like this go on a lot and they very little if anything is done to the offenders. This is one I bring up a lot but children in state care often experience a lot of sexual assault and very little if anything is done. Most are not even investigated.  It seems like the younger the child the more the system looks the other way. This one probably got to where it was because an adult was assaulted. I&#039;ve heard it has to do with the difficulty of getting a  conviction but then why are the ones that do get to the point of being convicted given such light punishment.

As horrible as the music is, listening to a song about abusing women does not make people walk into a house and rape a family. Coming from a bad family doesn&#039;t cause people to do that either. They offenders are evil and have chosen that path out of the evilness in their hearts. Blaming music or lack of parents is excusing it to their circumstances instead of the choices they made to hurt someone else. 

The judicial system will look the other way and will give them a hand slap. This is everyone the police taking the  report to the laywers on each side who prefer lets make a deal l instead of going for a jury trial. They have a mindset to have sympathy for the montsters to get &quot;treatment&quot; instead of seeing of punishment and keeping society safe from them.  I don&#039;t understand why these crimes aren&#039;t punishment severly when things like drug crimes or auto theft or property theft get prison. It&#039;s crazy that a rapists are walking around while others that cheated on their taxes or had a lot of cocaine on them or sold a cop a controlled substance are in prison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t blame the media or MSM for this. It&#8217;s the judicial system that will give these monsters a hand slap and send them to &#8220;treatment&#8221; for a year if anything. I would bet this isn&#8217;t the first time they sexually assaulted someone. The same system keeps many many cases like this out of the court room too.</p>
<p>Cases like this go on a lot and they very little if anything is done to the offenders. This is one I bring up a lot but children in state care often experience a lot of sexual assault and very little if anything is done. Most are not even investigated.  It seems like the younger the child the more the system looks the other way. This one probably got to where it was because an adult was assaulted. I&#8217;ve heard it has to do with the difficulty of getting a  conviction but then why are the ones that do get to the point of being convicted given such light punishment.</p>
<p>As horrible as the music is, listening to a song about abusing women does not make people walk into a house and rape a family. Coming from a bad family doesn&#8217;t cause people to do that either. They offenders are evil and have chosen that path out of the evilness in their hearts. Blaming music or lack of parents is excusing it to their circumstances instead of the choices they made to hurt someone else. </p>
<p>The judicial system will look the other way and will give them a hand slap. This is everyone the police taking the  report to the laywers on each side who prefer lets make a deal l instead of going for a jury trial. They have a mindset to have sympathy for the montsters to get &#8220;treatment&#8221; instead of seeing of punishment and keeping society safe from them.  I don&#8217;t understand why these crimes aren&#8217;t punishment severly when things like drug crimes or auto theft or property theft get prison. It&#8217;s crazy that a rapists are walking around while others that cheated on their taxes or had a lot of cocaine on them or sold a cop a controlled substance are in prison.</p>
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		<title>By: JadedByPolitics</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/morstar150/2009/09/21/dunbar-village-gang-rape/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>JadedByPolitics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 00:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is obvious to anyone paying attention the moral decline of our country.  I truly feel that the bottom has been reached and we have no where to go but up!  I have real HOPE (not Obama&#039;s political hope) that this country is turning a corner and I think you saw it and felt it in DC as well.  There is nothing like a million plus people whereby 90% of attendee&#039;s never protested a day in their life to give one the sense of CHANGE.  I look forward to a return to value&#039;s and responsibility because liberalism in all its filthy disgusting ideology is on full display for Americans to see for the first time in over 20 years.  American&#039;s forgot and the young never knew how repulsive it was and so know they do :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is obvious to anyone paying attention the moral decline of our country.  I truly feel that the bottom has been reached and we have no where to go but up!  I have real HOPE (not Obama&#8217;s political hope) that this country is turning a corner and I think you saw it and felt it in DC as well.  There is nothing like a million plus people whereby 90% of attendee&#8217;s never protested a day in their life to give one the sense of CHANGE.  I look forward to a return to value&#8217;s and responsibility because liberalism in all its filthy disgusting ideology is on full display for Americans to see for the first time in over 20 years.  American&#8217;s forgot and the young never knew how repulsive it was and so know they do <img src='http://www.redstate.com/morstar150/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: penguin2</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/morstar150/2009/09/21/dunbar-village-gang-rape/#comment-22</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>women in our society.  A culture that supports anything goes, bare all and then some, has not only coarsened, but cheapened everything associated with womanhood.  Morstar&#039;s comment:  
&quot;every dollar the entertainment industry generates is another cultural value compromised&quot; is the sickening reality.

We supposedly would be horrified if this was happening in a third world country, but not here.  The MSM helps in permitting these atrocious acts to be covered up. 

We are being buried under the moral decay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>women in our society.  A culture that supports anything goes, bare all and then some, has not only coarsened, but cheapened everything associated with womanhood.  Morstar&#8217;s comment:<br />
&#8220;every dollar the entertainment industry generates is another cultural value compromised&#8221; is the sickening reality.</p>
<p>We supposedly would be horrified if this was happening in a third world country, but not here.  The MSM helps in permitting these atrocious acts to be covered up. </p>
<p>We are being buried under the moral decay.</p>
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		<title>By: JadedByPolitics</title>
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		<dc:creator>JadedByPolitics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kenny Solomon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenny Solomon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JadedByPolitics</title>
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		<dc:creator>JadedByPolitics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to the very bottom!  It is that bottom that I hope a new day dawns when EXCUSES no longer are accepted that right and wrong are felt in the very souls of those who do wrong.  Liberalism has destroyed the very fabric of our country by engaging in the slaughter of innocence.  It is the slow creeping acceptance of abortion, pornography, violence as &quot;mainstream&quot; that has destroyed this nation.  I remember when a unmarried pregnant woman was embarrassed to be so but now it is celebrated on every magazine cover from coast to coast.  The dehumanization of women in the &quot;mainstream&quot; as nothing but sexual objects to be used and then thrown away (thank you N.O.W.). 

I see a new day dawning when this country returns to its Conservative roots and liberalism is rejected for the foul ideology that it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to the very bottom!  It is that bottom that I hope a new day dawns when EXCUSES no longer are accepted that right and wrong are felt in the very souls of those who do wrong.  Liberalism has destroyed the very fabric of our country by engaging in the slaughter of innocence.  It is the slow creeping acceptance of abortion, pornography, violence as &#8220;mainstream&#8221; that has destroyed this nation.  I remember when a unmarried pregnant woman was embarrassed to be so but now it is celebrated on every magazine cover from coast to coast.  The dehumanization of women in the &#8220;mainstream&#8221; as nothing but sexual objects to be used and then thrown away (thank you N.O.W.). </p>
<p>I see a new day dawning when this country returns to its Conservative roots and liberalism is rejected for the foul ideology that it is.</p>
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