Background: back over Thanksgiving weekend John Conyers III (the son of Rep. John Conyers) reported a theft of computers and concert tickets from the car that he was using. The problem? John Conyers III was using the car unlawfully: it was leased to his father’s Congressional office as an official vehicle, and Conyers was not using it in an official capacity. And it wasn’t anything like an one-time event, either: John Conyers III also got a speeding ticket on the car back in September. The behavior was so egregious that Rep. Conyers isn’t even trying to fight it: he’s just swiftly reimbursing the government as comprehensively as possible before the 112th Congress gets sworn in.
None of this is the true scandal. The true scandal is that we’re only hearing about this now. Rep. Conyers – who is, by the way, still the JUDICIARY CHAIR – has a history of abusing official resources. His wife is in jail for bribery. There is thus zero excuse for the media not to jump on this with both feet… and if the man had an R after his name, they would have. Then again, if Rep. Conyers had had an R after his name the media would have destroyed him years ago.
Moe Lane (crosspost)
PS: I think that the new Ethics Committee leadership should look into this – and that they should not give this the same wrist slap in 2011 that their Democratic counterparts did in 2007. I am tired of Democratic politicians thinking that they can get a pass on not even having to care about propriety; I am even more tired of them having any practical justification for thinking that way.
Victoria Coates
Daniel Horowitz
I could agree more...
DefeatObama.com (Diary) Sunday, December 26th at 12:13PM EST (link)The issue has always been in allowing Congress to self govern it’s own behavior it has allowed them to softly punish one another instances where a good beating was more inline with what should have been doled out. Charlie Rangel is a prime example of this. Not only did his actually actually enrich him but they enriched his “leagacy” also.
I applaud the effort to shine some light on the issue Moe.
I’ll be launching the website very soon.
www.defeatobama.com
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The Ethics Committee. Heh.
mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, December 26th at 12:17PM EST (link)Thanks Moe. I needed a good laugh. And a good cry.
How much deference, courtesy and respect...
bobmontgomery (Diary) Sunday, December 26th at 12:30PM EST (link)—-should the media and the adult commenting public give to public servants?
It is one thing for politicians and political operatives to promote or attack, but the Fourth Estate lets itself be used far too often, not without criticism, but mostly without loss of privilege.
Brain Lamb and the folks at C-Span provide a valuable service, and as well as congressional coverage, give forums to both left and right outlets and advocacy groups. But during the Bush Presidency, when Conyers was going through his ‘impeach Bush’ phase, he held mock ….mock…committee hearings having nothing whatsoever to do with official Congressional business,complete with mock ‘witnesses’, and C-Span televised them. Even the captions at the bottom of the screen did not make it clear that these were mock proceedings. Kind of an Orson Welles type deal if you weren’t in on the joke.
The point is that even people and outlets who think they are being ‘fair’ and open minded and courteously deferential are, way more often than is pointed out, part of the problem. Moe’s expose of the media’s abdication of it’s responsibilities, indeed it’s abandonment of its profesionalism, is parralleled in so many aspects of the culture it is not funny. From the scientific community (we “believe” in AGW) to the Education community (we have to mold our children into what WE want them to be and do in the future) to even the religious community (we have to adapt and adopt), the sacrfice of principle and the forgetting of purpose are everywhere.
If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington
But where was Bush?
writeblock Sunday, December 26th at 5:18PM EST (link)Where were the Republicans? We had the bully pulpit for eight years.
There are too many gentlemen in the GOP. We need to get rid of them.
Who CARES where Bush was?
Moe Lane (Diary) Sunday, December 26th at 5:41PM EST (link)We have a problem now.
The Kim Kardashian of blogging.
Check out my blog at http://moelane.com/.
http://moelane.com/filthy-lucre-filthy-lucre/
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My (combined) wish list.
I care...
writeblock Sunday, December 26th at 7:56PM EST (link)because it’s our real problem, not Conyers. There are too many like Bush in the party, and too few Republicans who know how to fight a civil war–or even when to recognize we’re in one.
No, I'm pretty sure...
Moe Lane (Diary) Sunday, December 26th at 9:22PM EST (link)…that fighting and stopping corrupt Democrats like these from doing any more harm is my party’s dual problem and responsibility . Sorry to hear that it isn’t yours.
Was there anything else? – My time is not limitless, you understand.
The Kim Kardashian of blogging.
Check out my blog at http://moelane.com/.
http://moelane.com/filthy-lucre-filthy-lucre/
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My (combined) wish list.
Why assume that?
writeblock Sunday, December 26th at 9:53PM EST (link)My point was you don’t stop corrupt Democrats by turning the other cheek.
No, your point was "Bush was a poopyhead."
Moe Lane (Diary) Sunday, December 26th at 10:16PM EST (link)Which was not really a point; I’m being generous there.
Again: was there anything else?
The Kim Kardashian of blogging.
Check out my blog at http://moelane.com/.
http://moelane.com/filthy-lucre-filthy-lucre/
http://twitter.com/moelane
My (combined) wish list.
Wrong...
writeblock Sunday, December 26th at 10:39PM EST (link)My point was Bush was too gentlemanly to get soiled in a street fight. I voted for Bush twice. I supported him financially. I got a personal Christmas card from him. That still doesn’t keep me from speaking honestly about his tenure as president. He let Conyers–and others–get away with murder. Reid and other top Democrats called him a liar to his face–and he never responded. That only emboldened them–and weakened us politically. We’ve rebounded in spite of the establishment–thanks to tea partiers, conservatives willing to FIGHT.
Try not to make assumptions that go beyond the evidence.
Bravo.
Moe Lane (Diary) Sunday, December 26th at 11:44PM EST (link)You almost made me forget that your first impulse on hearing of Democratic malfeasance was to throw punches at Republicans.
You may now monologue.
The Kim Kardashian of blogging.
Check out my blog at http://moelane.com/.
http://moelane.com/filthy-lucre-filthy-lucre/
http://twitter.com/moelane
My (combined) wish list.
No...
writeblock Monday, December 27th at 3:44AM EST (link)My first instinct was to wonder why the heck you’re bringing up such small potatoes when the country’s on fire and the Republicans just handed the arsonists some major victories.
are you an idiot?
streiff (Diary) Monday, December 27th at 8:33AM EST (link)or do you just play one on the internet?
In either case, cease and desist or find another place to irritate people.
“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”
Follow the argument...
writeblock Monday, December 27th at 1:56PM EST (link)before you haul off. Bobmotgomery brought up the impeach Bush hearings. I asked where Bush and the Republicans were for 8 years in the face of Democrat bashing. Moe Lane got snarky. I defended my point with the same degree of snark. If I irritate you, that’s your problem.
You are trying to piss off every moderator, aren't you? nt
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, December 27th at 2:12PM EST (link)conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat
Follow @Aaron_RS
No, since I don't know who's a moderator...
writeblock Monday, December 27th at 7:54PM EST (link)and who isn’t.
Writeblock, you've been here over 2 years. If you don't know who the moderators are, that's your own failure. Pay attention. nt
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Tuesday, December 28th at 10:34AM EST (link)conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat
Follow @Aaron_RS
I will help you out
powertothepeople (Diary) Tuesday, December 28th at 11:53AM EST (link)The two toughest mods here with very little patience for stupidity are:
Neil Stevens and Moe Lane
Following up closely but not quite as fast on the bam
Streiff
The mods who tend to give more slack than the other, but it is not recommended you push your luck with them:
Aaron Gardner and Bill S
Other mod I know of who can bam but tends to not too
Vlad
And of course the head guy who seldom bans but has done so twice in the last few weeks:
Erik Erikson
Hope that helps you know who to push your luck with and who not too.
True fact
Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, December 28th at 12:42PM EST (link)Aaron does not have the blamstick. The rest is accurate.
RS contributing editor, technical administrator, and “a hardy variety of crabgrass.”
Read the RedState Posting Rules
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“I rejoice that America has resisted.” – William Pitt, the Elder
Well he should
powertothepeople (Diary) Tuesday, December 28th at 2:03PM EST (link)never seen him wrong as of yet, that is of course unless he has ever addressed me, lol.
Seriously though, he should have one.
If by gentlemen, and ladies, you mean....
bobmontgomery (Diary) Sunday, December 26th at 7:37PM EST (link)….those who would throw down the mantles of liberty and Republicanism in the gutter of politics and let the Progressives walk all over them, yeah we have had too many nice fellows. But the problem is broader and more cultural than that. Moe’s example is of a media that either doesn’t understand, or was never taught, or refuses to do what the press is supposed to do. The new recruits in the party may be gung ho, but if they are not grounded in the document, the charter, they can be as easily perverted as the press. I only wish Antonin Scalia had been available to welcome the incoming class starting aboutforty years ago.
If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington
The media is what it is...
writeblock Sunday, December 26th at 8:17PM EST (link)But from what I can see few on our side are ready to call them on it in a major way. Bush, for instance, needed to evoke the Espionage Act when the NYTimes’ publisher and editors deliberately published information that gave comfort to our enemies in time of war. That was a helluva lot more significant in terms of culpability than this Conyers dustup. I’m tired of our guys not pressing their advantage. Look at our behavior during the lame duck session. Are we so totally oblivious to the political consequences in 2012 of making Obama look successful? What was so pressing it couldn’t wait until January? Yet there our guys were–falling right in line with the opposition propping Zero up.
The tax cuts ...
bobmontgomery (Diary) Sunday, December 26th at 9:20PM EST (link)…or rather the extension of the Bush tax cuts, meaning preventing everybody’s taxes from rising. I am as put off as you by RINOism, or faux conservatism, or simple fiscal conservatism, and I don’t pretend to understand all the ins and outs of Congressional deal-making, Personally, I would have rather taxes went up and even though the economy might have suffered it might have knocked some more sense into some more Reagan Democrats, but the pols probably thought, as they always seem to do, that they have to be good fiscal conservatives first, and try to repair institutional damage later.
As for the media, well, if Bush invoked the Espionage Act, that’s a good thing, and our side calling them on it thasn’t stopped them. What makes a difference is a sudden and steep and bottomless decline in alumni contributions to the Columbia School of Journalism.
If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington
Crime is the person who commits it, not the act itself
johnt Sunday, December 26th at 12:54PM EST (link)A Republican can commit a crime, not a Democrat. Of course that goes for garden variety scandals as well.
A black Democrat gets even greater dispensations.
This tells us of the nature of our “watchdogs” of the media. Their stupidity we know about, their fanaticism we live with, the complete absence of any hint of normal human morals is the part that gags.
“a man’s admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him”. Tocqueville
Thanks. I was wondering. . .
msctex (Diary) Sunday, December 26th at 1:10PM EST (link). . .if anyone was going to mention the African elephant in the room.
Perhaps our post-racial President will succeed at least in bringing our politics to a post-racism level of discourse, if by a sort of default.
The African Elephant
tanyag Sunday, December 26th at 6:45PM EST (link)LOL. As I build and document my site, I noticed the disgusting behavior by those African elephants. It was glaring during the vote to forgo salary increase in 2010. Remember? HR 5146. Only 15 Dems voted for the increase. Of those 15, fourteen were African elephants.
http://www.thenextuselections.com/html/mi_congressmen.html
TanyaG
www.thenextuselections.com
Why are we seeing a trend that a lot of the time its CBC members on the Democratic side?
froster (Diary) Sunday, December 26th at 1:11PM EST (link)Waters, Rangel, Bernice Johnson, David Scott, Conyers etc.
I can’t wait for West to shake up that “institution”
Republican from California.
GOP
mrorange Sunday, December 26th at 2:10PM EST (link)Here’s the problem, republicans don’t have the intestinal fortitude to put away a democrat. I have to hand it to the D’s, they can turn a parking ticket offense by an R into the crime of the century, and then paint the entire republican party as corrupt. But let the democrats commit true political corruption, i.e., virtually all the Congressional Black Caucus, and the Blue-blood, ruling class elites of the GOP either don’t want to get their hands dirty or they are too lazy to do the really heavy lifting of making scandals of the democrats stick.
Until the Tea Party can get more people elected and replace the current GOP leadership, this will never change.
Multi-front war, Orange...
acat (Diary) Sunday, December 26th at 2:43PM EST (link)The Tea Parties may get the GOP to grow a spine yet .. but even if they do, that doesn’t change that the media sit on their hands whenever a Dem does something wrong… but go for the throat whenever a Repub crosses a line.
My suggestion is to stop feeding the media until they starve a bit… Perhaps a few more media outlets collapsing will clarify their minds a bit.
Mew
——

Caveat Suffragator
the ticket out..
davep Sunday, December 26th at 8:45PM EST (link)Sarah Palin and Gary Johnson.. both unafraid to say no and use the veto pen.
DaveP
time to be honest
gillis7 (Diary) Sunday, December 26th at 2:27PM EST (link)All of my life I have been told to hold my tongue, watch my manners ;don’t be insulting.
I’m really sick of the hypocritical appeasement from the right (including my self) by allowing them to get away with Liberalism and telling us that it is mainstream. And letting the media get away with excusing them.
It is time to drop the polite facade and start cleaning our own house.
we need to eject ALL liberal republicans and reject their appeasement of liberalism masked as “compromise”
you will lose compromising with terrorists, and you will lose compromising with liberalism.
and, make no mistake, liberalism is corruption.
liberalism is the anti liberty
the anti individual
the anti property rights position
it is the anti AMERICAN way
and it must no longer be appeased.
it must be stopped.
My guess...
writeblock Sunday, December 26th at 10:17PM EST (link)is that most of the GOP establishment fears the Media–another reason we need fresh blood in our ranks.
John Conyers
smitch61 Sunday, December 26th at 2:47PM EST (link)and his entire family is an embarrassment here in Michigan. His wife is a real tool… a real tool…. look her up on youtube. One absolute crazy lady. It is amazing to me that while she sits in jail, her hubby never noticed an extra 150 grand just lying around the house. Go figure. This man continues to get re elected in this state. It is absolutely pathetic.
Uh, yeah...
linda01 Sunday, December 26th at 2:48PM EST (link)>reimbursing the government as comprehensively as possible
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I’m wondering what that means, exactly. Do we have any clarification from Conyers or his staff? I certainly hope the Ethics Committee looks at these “infractions” with a high powered microscope. And I hope that if they do find something, that he is censured, fined (heavily), and drummed out of office. The audacity of the Democrats to flout the rules has got to stop.
Conyers has been a crook since Day One
Adjoran (Diary) Sunday, December 26th at 3:16PM EST (link)100%. Never got more than a mild rebuke.
And yes, he is hardly alone among members of the CBC. It is difficult to find a member who has been in Congress as long as eight years who has not experienced a strong increase in personal wealth without any apparent source, or whose friends and families do not get jobs for which they are not remotely qualified (ever wonder how the failed publisher of a small newspaper got onto the Federal Communications Commission? Mignon Clyburn may be a nobody, but her daddy can steal whatever you need).
I am custodian of 5 gov't vehicles
jstjoan (Diary) Sunday, December 26th at 3:23PM EST (link)which are used by the FAA technicians I work with whenever they have a need to travel to a radar, communications, navaid work site.
I guarantee that if I was discovered driving one on personal business, (let alone allow a family member to drive one of them!) I would be fired.
The GSA vehicle lease agreement is very strict and Rep. Conyers should be punished at a minimum by confiscating all of his leased vehicles.
Three questions that destroy most Liberal arguments according to Thomas Sowell:
1. Compared to what?
2. At what cost?
3. What hard evidence do yo have?
Darn Right
WarEagle01 (Diary) Sunday, December 26th at 3:36PM EST (link)As a military member I would be lucky to get by with an Article 15 (commander’s nonjudicial punishment or “Captain’s Mast” for you Navy pukes). More likely, my C.O. would prefer charges against me for misuse of government property. Career over.
“A wise, doughy leg with rich tingly experiences will always reach better conclusions than will a more tanned, muscular leg that hasn’t felt those thrills.” –Chris Matthews’ Leg
“The alternative to the awful extremity of abortion is the indispensable joy of introducing this flawed world to someone who might make it better.”–John Hayward (AKA Dr. Zero)
Yep, and you would probably be immediately incarcerated in some way as well. (nt)
Mike Ferguson (Diary) Sunday, December 26th at 4:46PM EST (link)Let us be sure that those who come after will say of us in our time, that in our time we did everything that could be done. We finished the race; we kept them free; we kept the faith.
Ronald Reagan
Move along, no corruption going on here......
kevnad1966 (Diary) Sunday, December 26th at 4:40PM EST (link)It’s sad to say that I am unshocked by this and I’m pretty sure the media won’t touch this one, even as it is being handed to them. I remember when the story originally broke and my question to friends even then was “What the hell was 27K of “concert tickets” doing in the hands of his son…?!?!
Put this in perspective...
writeblock Monday, December 27th at 3:52AM EST (link)the guy’s an a-hole. End of issue. We’ve got more important stuff to get worked up about. I want to know why the GOP Senate just handed Obama some major victories on a silver platter.
Because it's Bush"s fault.
gekster (Diary) Monday, December 27th at 4:03AM EST (link)Forget your theme of the day?
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
Ok folks, 2012 is here. Get involved
To some extent it is...
writeblock Monday, December 27th at 2:03PM EST (link)I like Bush. But he allowed himself to be politically assaulted without fighting back. This hurt his party and his brand. It only encouraged the opposition.
As for this Conyers incident–it’s trivial in the scheme of things. It’s not what we should be exercised over. We should be furious over handing Obama a string of victories to crow about.
Malarky
itrytobenice (Diary) Monday, December 27th at 11:36PM EST (link)Corruption is not acceptable. This guy is as crooked as a dog’s hind leg and we need to shine the light on him every chance we get.
We’ve got machine guns. The internet does not charge us extra for posting every d@mn thing he does that’s crooked. If we make up a special website just for tracking his (and his family’s) corruption, good for us. We’re going to use all our bullets, regardless of what you think.
And that does not mean that when Democrat Conyers proves himself to be a thief and liar that we’re going to turn around and vent our spleen on Republicans for failing to stop The Marxist Presentdent.
They may not be tough enough, but he’s a dishonorable criminal.
Proper grammar saves lives.
Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.
There is no such thing as a trivial crime when committed by an elected Democrat.
mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, December 27th at 11:50PM EST (link)We keep letting them off the hook when we should be burning them at the stake.
Hopefully they weren't tickets for Teena Marie...
trutexan Monday, December 27th at 8:31AM EST (link)Now what’s he going to do with them?
There’s more than just the journalism schools to defund. When I went to Librarian school at TWU, I had to keep my conservative viewpoints to myself. I was forced to read garbage I’d never otherwise have picked up and do reports on it filled with lies and deceit just to get a passing grade on a paper. Nearly all of the college and university curriculums that don’t have to do with the life sciences and engineering disciplines are cesspools of liberal crapola. And I’ll throw Psychology & Sociology in there right along with them.
I was anti-Obama before it was cool.
Bonner should publically ask Pelosi every day to get Conners to resign
walter_hanson Sunday, December 26th at 7:34PM EST (link)Nancy Pelosi said she was going to clean the swamp. John Bonner should point out every day that Nancy Pelosi should demand that John Conners (let alone Rangel and Waters) should resign. Or else she should resign since she didn’t drain the swamp.
Walter Hanson
Minneapolis, MN
When I met John Conyers
powertothepeople (Diary) Sunday, December 26th at 8:13PM EST (link)back a few years in Macomb County where he was meeting with other scumbags, my first and only impression of the guy as I talked to him was complete arrogance overshadowed with a very low IQ. He refused to shake my young sons hand, which may have been a blessing in disguise, and when we asked what he was going to do to change some things that were wrong in the state, he simply stared then turned his head and started talking to another guy.
His son was an even bigger a hole and loser so this does not surprise me in the least. Best thing I ever did was get out of Michigan.
That pretty much
smitch61 Sunday, December 26th at 11:08PM EST (link)covers it. I met him once myself, and you described him to a T… I am sorry you left MI, hope you found happiness wherever your travels have landed you.
The reason for Conyer's longevity
makemyday (Diary) Monday, December 27th at 7:28AM EST (link)is contained in the following video clip (html is NOT my friend)
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2009/10/more_model_obam.html
Remember this? It should go a long way to explain things like John and Monica Conyer’s, Kwami Kilpatrick and the one of America’s great cities about to be turned back into farm land.
When all else fails…….. Shoot!
“Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.” –American author Mark Twain (1835-1910)
“We should never despair, our Situation before has been unpromising and has changed for the better, so I trust, it will again. If new difficulties arise, we must only put forth new Exertions and proportion our Efforts to the exigency of the times.” –George Washington, letter to Philip Schuyler, 1777
Good news
melbedewy (Diary) Monday, December 27th at 8:36AM EST (link)is that this time next week Conyers will have ZERO power.