Meet Dylan Ratigan. If you’ve never heard of him, that’s because he’s a (hardcore liberal) host on MSNBC. He’s also a seditionist… oh, sorry. For the benefit of our readers with public school educations, a ‘seditionist’ is somebody who incites armed rebellion against his or her country. Here he is, talking with fellow seditionist Ted Rall about how armed revolt against the government now apparently is now on the table when it comes to solutions:
Via Newsbusters we have a transcript. Here’s the beginning of it:
RATIGAN: Welcome back. We are here with a very disconcerting question. Are things in our country so bad that it might be time for a revolution? The answer obviously is yes, the only question is how to do it. From the wrongful wars to the corrupt economy to the special interests and the six industries that control every politician in this country, the political system itself, gerrymandering, 75% of all districts weren’t even up for grabs last week. You call that a competitive market?
To clear our dire problems may require even more drastic solutions. And our next guest, cartoonist and author Ted Rall, targets the day-to-day absurdities in Washington through political cartoons printed in newspapers across the country, but now he’s tackling something bigger. The need for real change and real action, perhaps even through violence, or at least the threat thereof.
Ignore the details of Ted Rall for the purposes of this discussion: he’s a bitter, failed cartoonist that can only achieve his Special Time by contemplating the sexual degradation of prominent Republicans. What’s important here is Ratigan had on the air – and did not verbally shred on the spot – a man who writes tripe like:
We are here because the U.S. is going to end soon. There’s going to be an intense, violent, probably haphazard struggle for control. It’s going to come down to us versus them. The question is: What are you going to do about it?
What Ratigan is apparently going to do about it is to let this lunatic come onto MSNBC and flog a book that advocates violent insurrection. I’m not going to give MSNBC the easy out here either by letting this problem get caught up in the usual “double standards” question. The network SHOULD KNOW BETTER; it should not need to have me, or anybody else on the Right, point out that giving seditionist lunatics like Rall access to even the marginal soapbox represented by MSNBC is a Bad Idea.
I didn’t care if Olbermann came back or not, but Ratigan needs to be fired.
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Ratigan
BigGator5 (Diary) Tuesday, November 9th at 3:55PM EST (link)Ratigan comes on in just under five mintues and I am far away from a TV, so does anyone want to watch his show to see if he responds?
Educated (About The Issues Facing Us Today), Dedicated (To Making A Difference), And Highly Motivated (To Getting Things Done)

You might have to offer up some $$$ to get any takers. nt.
earlgrey (Diary) Tuesday, November 9th at 4:08PM EST (link)"We are all...
robmull Wednesday, November 10th at 6:29AM EST (link)“We are all Socialists now,” was the cover of “Newsweek” magazine; and apparently there is a certain class of uber-liberal, anti-American, anti-capitalist elites and news medias who seem to think; [that's] a good thing. What they forget to mention is that: sooner or later you are going to run out of other peoples money.
The definition of "moderate"
voicefromthevoid Thursday, November 11th at 12:32PM EST (link)That’s what this is all about.
Sure, Ratigan is and will be dismissed as a fringe, but the purpose of his spat as well, as mentioned above Newsweek piece is to shift the spectrum to the left, so that communists like Bill Clinton will be looking like moderates, and anyone conservative will be seen as fringe, therefore summarily dismissed.
This guy is much more dangerous than meets the eye. No, not by what he spits out of his mouth, but by shifting the spectrum of opinions acceptable for media to the left, and consequently shifting the perception of moderation equally to the left.
The First Amendment is an amazing thing.....
Kenny Solomon (Diary) Tuesday, November 9th at 4:02PM EST (link)…..but not bereft of consequences.
Mr. Ratigan and his guest Mr. Rall (not heard of him before this diary) can spout off all they want….. However, yelling (open) fire in a crowded (‘soft target’) theater isn’t exactly a good idea when many on the extreme ends of the spectrum (like those on MSNBC) are licking their chops, just waiting for things to jump ugly, if not cause it themselves.
….and the administration is poking the lion, prodding, jabbing, making attempts at generating their crisis too good to waste.
SDS
robmull Wednesday, November 10th at 9:41AM EST (link)Yes, unfortunately, none of Mr. Obama’s radical Czars have been vetted; for good reason. They are all old SDS-type, Communist classmates, domestic terrorists, liberal professors, business associates and comrades. I know THAT makes me feel all “warm and cuddly”. I was trying to think of a good name for the NEW America, in “puppet master,” George {Schwartz} Soros’ mind: “The Free Peoples Democratic Republic of Amerikka”. “Fat chance,” and “over my dead body,” come immediately to mind!!!
As long we can send in a latter-day Sherman
duke90 Tuesday, November 9th at 4:12PM EST (link)to clean up the mess, then remove Congressional representation and electoral votes from those states until they ratify a few Constitutional Amendments, I heartily endorse this path of action.
an historic Republican response
arnwiesner Wednesday, November 10th at 9:36AM EST (link)but is it really limited government?
Nope. It is just as illegal today as it was then.
duke90 Tuesday, June 21st at 4:06PM EST (link)I still heartily endorse this path of action.
Needless to say...
IronDioPriest (Diary) Tuesday, November 9th at 4:20PM EST (link)This kind of talk coming from the Right on Fox News or talk radio would mean the ending of careers.
The Right’s responses to the overreaching of this rogue government have been 100% peaceful. At the same time, we have many examples of the Left devolving into physical violence or violent rhetoric against the Right.
The double standard is in play as always, as is the Left’s proclivity to project upon their perceived enemies those motivations and behaviors in which they themselves engage.
“If we finally fail in this great and glorious contest, it will be by bewildering ourselves in groping for the middle way.”
-John Adams, 1776
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What the hell
powertothepeople (Diary) Tuesday, November 9th at 4:21PM EST (link)would either of these two tree hugging nuts do? It is not their side who owns the most guns or fills most of the military. Who is their right mind would follow them into a blaze of glory? These two are idiots and are jokes even among their own kind.
But they should be arrested the moment they encourage any type of insurrection. You can be put to death for treason…..
Love the line though where her justifies his belief with “you will not get them to change…..you can not even get everyone to stop littering!”
I think they are more the "Blow up innocent people" type.
Tbone (Diary) Tuesday, November 9th at 4:51PM EST (link)You know, Obama mentor types.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
Probally so
powertothepeople (Diary) Tuesday, November 9th at 11:54PM EST (link)as sneaking around and killing women and children in the most cowardly way is all I could see them doing.
Strangely
jeffstag Wednesday, November 10th at 12:50PM EST (link)If anyone does take them seriously and blows up innocent people, they’ll be spun as “right wing lunatics”
All I can say is...
tennesseaninindiana Tuesday, November 9th at 4:30PM EST (link)Bring it on!
Not a chance
kchand Tuesday, November 9th at 9:56PM EST (link)These guy would run away and cry if they got into a little slap fight.
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The ‘N’ word is November! Nov 6, 2012 will be the next cleansing.
my first instinct too
jackhammer Wednesday, November 10th at 5:38AM EST (link)is bring it on. Anytime I go back through my more righ leaning friends and my more left leaning friends, and I imagine it was grade school gym class….I know that the all the first picks for any sport would have been the conservatives.
Now in a hypothetical fight, take 64 year old George Bush and 49 year old Obama…I know who my money would be on….I’d probably even give 78 year old Rumsfeld even odds.
It seems to me...
johnhandel Sunday, November 14th at 12:14PM EST (link)That these liberals, socialists, and communists can try. 98% of the guns are owned by the right and the military is heavily right-leaning. The can feel free to pull up their ‘armed uprising, armed with….ummmm…. bats, lattes, a tire irons, and lawyers. Only need one or two bullets each.
Never does a man portray his own character more vividly than in his manner of portraying another.–RICHTER.
Is Dylan Ratigan the son of
izoneguy (Diary) Tuesday, November 9th at 4:54PM EST (link)Bill Ayers?
What is this? The 1960′s again????
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
Ayers and his wife...
bobmontgomery (Diary) Tuesday, November 9th at 7:10PM EST (link)…are back on the stump again. Apparently humiliated by his University, the Ayers’ are badmouthing the US government. Oh, yes, this is the 60′s again. There are a lot of Marxists who thought their dreams of totalitarian utopia were about to be realized, and are now very unhappy that it’s not going to happen. Ditto the Climatizers.
If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington
Bill Ayers
robmull Wednesday, November 10th at 6:46AM EST (link)and his wife Burnardine have never stopped being “on the stump”. After their domestic terrorist trip, bombing and cop-killing, they settled down to try to teach our children to do the same. Even that got old, so they co-founded “Free Gaza,” to break the Israeli blockade with other anti-Semites, [in the Middle East] and named their second vessel “The Audacity of Hope;” a book written by their good friend and business associate. Guess who???
I Hope All of the Most Partisan Democrats Start Pushing This Line
IJB Tuesday, November 9th at 7:22PM EST (link)I hope they all start pushing “violent revolution” – it won’t end well for them.
Nudging...
robmull Wednesday, November 10th at 9:12AM EST (link)Cass [SDS] Sunstein, Mr. Obama’s “communications” Czar, knows that “nudging” people is the first step to achieving a utopia, like Venezuela. Of course Hugo’s first attempt [at utopia] failed because of a Fox-type “hostile” media, and Cass has been hired [by Obama] to make sure THAT [failure] doesn’t happen in America. Millions, possibly Billions of dollars have been funnelled into hundreds of liberal organizations, funded by Communist, George {“break the bank” Schwartz} Soros, to cover any necessary slimy, shady operations that must precede a progressive/Communist, “New World Order,” take-over, right here in America.
Do progressives even know which end to use...
vandalii Wednesday, November 10th at 12:33PM EST (link)…in a gun or knife fight? I know they are aware there is a dangerous end to guns and knives since they legislate against guns, but they’ll be on the wrong end of them if they were to actually go there. “Nudge” some people enough and they’ll get to find out
An armed response to SDS/Weathermen-type actions will not be the nice policemen with riot gear that show restraint and “violate civil rights” like in the 60′s. If this comes to violence, uber-liberals are gonna wish they hadn’t started something they couldn’t finish.
Not threatening, just recommending these folks think about what happens if “the rules” (i.e. laws about how to treat demonstrators) are suspended should viloent revolution becomes real…
“Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue.” – Winston Churchill
Ratigan ripped the tea party this spring for harboring violent wingnuts
Common_Cents (Diary) Tuesday, November 9th at 7:24PM EST (link)You know, the standard talking point that the tea parties are full of violent racists, but offer no proof, ever. He went on a rant and asked producers to cut off the mike of a tea party representative.
Ratigan is drinking the kool aid at PMSBC.
Being a typical elitist lib, violence is ok as long as he condones it.
Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from,
behind, the Back Nine.Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.
Dylligan is...
forrest Tuesday, November 9th at 7:53PM EST (link)a sad little man in love with the sound of his own voice.
If they were stupid enough to actually try it...
anotherindyfilmguy (Diary) Tuesday, November 9th at 9:21PM EST (link)It would be social darwanism in action.
But then again liberalism is not noted for being entirely reality based in the first place…
Santorum? Well, at least he’s not Romney…
http://www.zazzle.com/enemy_of_the_statist_tshirt-235977043035297478
Need to add some chlorine, anyway
Raven (Diary) Wednesday, November 10th at 1:44AM EST (link)Water in the gene-pool’s getting a tad cloudy…
“If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
Luke 22:36
Need to "shock" the pool...
vandalii Wednesday, November 10th at 12:35PM EST (link)… just like when the little kids poop in it. Seems there’s a lot of “floaters” out here in the societal gene pool lately…
“Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue.” – Winston Churchill
The Second American Revolution?
barbiiboi Wednesday, November 10th at 6:46AM EST (link)BRING IT IF YOU’VE GOT IT! WE’RE READY1 MOLON LABE!!
Amen
gumbeaux Wednesday, November 10th at 6:52AM EST (link)Bring it on. Just make sure that you have a Socialist country to retreat to. Otherwise, you will be pushed into the sea, sissies.
The only reason
politicalqrm Wednesday, November 10th at 6:50AM EST (link)Ratigan is talking revolution is because they are losing. When the communists start losing by legitimate means (elections) their
next move is armed revolution.
Ironic that they should start talking about this a week after their butts got kicked in elections.
Unfortunately, their idea of revolution is the cowardly way: bombs. That way, they don’t see their victims.
Bring it on: then you’ll see the real patriots in this country. People who are willing to defend their rights and their country the way the founders intended.
I wish these people would just leave this country. I’m sure they would find a warm, friendly reception from dictators like Chavez.
Chavez, or any such dictator, would, at first, welcome
davesinsanantonio (Diary) Wednesday, November 10th at 7:16AM EST (link)them with open arms, but put them away the first chance he got. He wouldn’t want their nuttiness in his country either. He would not be able to trust them, just like we cannot trust them.
Glenn Beck has ...
cam1 Wednesday, November 10th at 7:44AM EST (link)laid out the agenda that the radical left has for us and it includes discarding their sheepish attire and violence because that is the best way to get martial law. It’s about a new world order, they’re revealing themselves, because they realize that they have waked us up.
The radical left doesn’t have an answer for us. They will try anything to stop us.
It only take 2 people to start a conspiracy.
The President, Biden & the MSM Calling for Violence
1689 Wednesday, November 10th at 7:46AM EST (link)Our wonderful government and its accomplices in the media are now taking the lead, implicitly suggesting violence and riots would be appropriate:
1) Before the election, the President called Republicans “enemies” who should be “punished.” Univision 10/26/10.
2) The President said if the Republicans gain control of the Congress there would be “hand to hand” combat. (LA Times Oct. 5, 2010)
3) VP Biden said that he would like to “strangle” Republicans.
4) On Hardball on Nov. 5, Mark Penn, Democratic strategist compared Obama’s current situation to the aftermath of the 1994 Republican Revolution. He said that it took the Oklahoma City tragedy in order for President Clinton to “reconnect” with the American people. He then said that President Obama needed a “similar event” to achieve that reconnection following the midterm losses. Chris Matthews ignores the statement (way to go Chris – you’re complicit).
5) And of course now MSNBC’s Dylan Ratigan interview of Ted Rall, described above.
Independents redeemed themselves somewhat for their vote on Nov 2 re-installing hundreds of Republicans. But still, their 2008 vote for Comrade Obama is turning out to be a disastrous choice for America.
Starting a "War..." yeah, sure.
boxedquad Wednesday, November 10th at 12:24PM EST (link)Less they forget, and we know they have not, We The People are restrained in defense of this country. But if restraint if forced away then WE are very well armed and have many organizations that would join together to force them into the sea… Unfortunate people will have their blood spilled, and who can they blame…the organizers of MSNBC and their ilk, Soras, Obamo and company? just who and why and what was their goal….OmeriKa ?
One of Ratigans NBC fellows said “He Is a Socialist..” and said DISARM THE USA…. like hell he will and he will wish he did not start that war..
Another FDR?
walter Wednesday, November 10th at 9:19AM EST (link)They HAVE one. . . in Obama. This is nothing but perpetuation of the SAME thing we have now…. We’re being duped by useful diots like this. We’re two years into ANOTHER FDR and it hasn’t got but worse. The left NEEDS it to get worse.
Think about it- mentioned is “republicans want to start firing government workers” of course this would save taxpayers boat loads of $$$$ (3 taxpayers paying one salary of a gument employee with pension, benneis and salary) and in the long run help stabalize the overall economy. Those fired workers would eventually find jobs they have to do well and efficient. Taxpayers would be off the hook for billions, and keep government from the growing harrassment of THE USA’S most important asset.
I object to the nonsense of these idiots…. The real revolution was held on Tuesday Novermber 2nd… the left just doesn’t like it and now they want an armed revolution to quell the right. Anyone feel the “civilian military presence Obama wants, is in lockstep with this nonsense?
I’m ready for the personal attacks due to their lack of substance . . . anyone? anyone? anyone?
Why are there no politicians speaking about firing 25% of the extremely overpaid government workforce that produces NO value what-so-ever?
Bill Ayers as role model, & not just for The O
johnt Wednesday, November 10th at 11:15AM EST (link)Yellow curs are unlikely to mount the barricades for higher taxes, even with The O doing his best at provocation.
I don’t think this sentiment is rare, just less discipline from the speakers. Liberals[?] can’t hold back the hate, but apart from a few bombs here and there, and moral alliances with their erstwhile allies, muslim murderers, there will be no revolution.
Nice to see their commitment to democracy, among so much else another thing, and a big one, the savages don’t believe in.
“a man’s admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him”. Tocqueville
My personal take on this
drscoundrels (Diary) Wednesday, November 10th at 11:23AM EST (link)My first take – Dylan who?
My second take – oh WTF ever
My third take – imagine if Beck said this
My fourth take – imagine if Rush said this
My fifth take – Ted Rall – message me for my address – I’ll be glad to “resist” your “violent” revolution – you want to get violent on me? Pleeeeeeeeeeease! I’ll be glad to defend myself.
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Who's Nuttier, Ratigan or O'Donnell?
Spartan4Life (Diary) Wednesday, November 10th at 12:08PM EST (link)Here’s what I think is going on here.
All these Olbermann wannabees see Keith getting the big money and they are all trying to stake out their claim to the “I’m more of a lefty wingnut than anyone who’s ever been allowed on television before” space.
MSNBC has become the prime example of the phenomenom of niche television programming where they don’t even pretend to cater to anyone to the right of Fidel Castro. While their audience is small I am guessing it is very committed. I don’t even get the impression that their so called “personalities” believe this stuff they are spewing. They are just giving their small committed audience what they want.
Ted Rall Is A Former Student of Mine: Sad To Say
Ausonius (Diary) Wednesday, November 10th at 1:21PM EST (link)I had him for part of a year in his high school days in Dayton: he was much more pleasant back then!
I have followed him since the late 80′s and 90′s, and he seems to want a tiny niche as the most radical and unfunniest leftist cartoonist.
Where his radical leftism comes from is unknown to me: his mother was a French immigrant…maybe via the sans-culottes?
Ausonius: 310-395 A.D. Teacher, Poet, Consul, General, Farmer.
Personal Tutor to the future St. Paulinus of Nola and to young Gratian, heir to the throne during the turbulent final years of the Western Roman Empire. When his former student Gratian was assassinated, Ausonius threw up his hands and retired to his farm in Gaul. Rome was captured by barbarians 14 years after his death.
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Ted Rall Is A Former Student of Mine: Sad To Say
Ausonius (Diary) Wednesday, November 10th at 1:21PM EST (link)I had him for part of a year in his high school days in Dayton: he was much more pleasant back then!
I have followed him since the late 80′s and 90′s, and he seems to want a tiny niche as the most radical and unfunniest leftist cartoonist.
Where his radical leftism comes from is unknown to me: his mother was a French immigrant…maybe via the sans-culottes?
Ausonius: 310-395 A.D. Teacher, Poet, Consul, General, Farmer.
Personal Tutor to the future St. Paulinus of Nola and to young Gratian, heir to the throne during the turbulent final years of the Western Roman Empire. When his former student Gratian was assassinated, Ausonius threw up his hands and retired to his farm in Gaul. Rome was captured by barbarians 14 years after his death.
Cato@rock.com
"Sans Culottes"?
myron_j_poltroonian Wednesday, November 10th at 2:55PM EST (link)My Dear Ausonius,
I hate to be rude, but just how well did you know his “French Mother”? Or was her past merely a knowable prelude to her future?
Ted Rall: Leftist and Unfunny Cartoonist
Ausonius (Diary) Thursday, November 11th at 10:23AM EST (link)His mother was the French teacher at his upper-class suburban high school!
I knew nothing about the father: divorced much earlier, I believe. But certainly Rall comes from a background of the upper-middle-class, and was hardly a classic “sans-culotte” !
He seems to qualify as a classic country-club leftist: quite willing to order others into the barricades, while he sips cognac behind the lines.
Ausonius: 310-395 A.D. Teacher, Poet, Consul, General, Farmer.
Personal Tutor to the future St. Paulinus of Nola and to young Gratian, heir to the throne during the turbulent final years of the Western Roman Empire. When his former student Gratian was assassinated, Ausonius threw up his hands and retired to his farm in Gaul. Rome was captured by barbarians 14 years after his death.
Cato@rock.com
Ted Rall: Leftist and Unfunny Cartoonist
Ausonius (Diary) Thursday, November 11th at 10:23AM EST (link)His mother was the French teacher at his upper-class suburban high school!
I knew nothing about the father: divorced much earlier, I believe. But certainly Rall comes from a background of the upper-middle-class, and was hardly a classic “sans-culotte” !
He seems to qualify as a classic country-club leftist: quite willing to order others into the barricades, while he sips cognac behind the lines.
Ausonius: 310-395 A.D. Teacher, Poet, Consul, General, Farmer.
Personal Tutor to the future St. Paulinus of Nola and to young Gratian, heir to the throne during the turbulent final years of the Western Roman Empire. When his former student Gratian was assassinated, Ausonius threw up his hands and retired to his farm in Gaul. Rome was captured by barbarians 14 years after his death.
Cato@rock.com
"Enemy of the State"?
myron_j_poltroonian Wednesday, November 10th at 3:07PM EST (link)When this speech becomes illegal, I’ll become a criminal: “I may become an enemy of the state, but never of the people”.
I wouldn't worry...
p3orion Thursday, November 11th at 11:12AM EST (link)If it does come to civil war between liberal socialist elitists and conservative middle America, I wouldn’t be too worried. There are more of us. Furthermore, we’re the ones who own guns and know how to use them…