It’s a good choice on a variety of levels: Jennifer is a small businesswoman, twenty-year military veteran, state legislator, NRA member, Jeb Bush appointee… and, possibly most importantly, a Bill McCollum supporter. Jennifer was actually on Crist’s short list for a Senate appointment last year; for that matter, she was apparently even considered for the Lt. Gov position four years ago; all of which should help in the awkwardness that is the Senate and Governor’s races in Florida. On the issues: conservative, with what appears to be on first glance no major problems. She’s a great balance for Rick Scott, in other words, and a definite asset to the ticket.
Needless to say, the Kendrick Meek campaign despises her. and is trying to use Gov. Crist’s approval of her to shore up Meek’s liberal base in the FL-SEN election. Alas, that’s a tactic that might work – among progressives, at least – for a very depressing reason…
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Amazing pick
redtillimdead (Diary) Thursday, September 2nd at 5:42PM EST (link)McCollum supporter, African-American, young, female, veteran. If he wins, she will be the top Sen recruit to challenge Nelson in 2012! GREAT PICK!
Nancy Pelosi can kiss my asstroturf.
I hate to nit-pick, but why must we use the liberals' terms?
jeffreywturner (Diary) Thursday, September 2nd at 7:37PM EST (link)Why must we refer to all black folks in America as “african-americans”?
In my experience, the only people who ever use the term “african-american” (other than politicians) are white folks who don’t actually personally know any black people.
Again, I’m not trying to rip on you, I’m just saying let’s not let the liberals define the terms of the conversation. Next thing you know, they will have us all calling illegal aliens “undocumented workers”.
“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”
trying to be PC
redtillimdead (Diary) Thursday, September 2nd at 7:59PM EST (link)Don’t want to get yelled at for calling her black. Glad to see it is preferred here, much easier to type.
Nancy Pelosi can kiss my asstroturf.
Haha, don't sweat it.
jeffreywturner (Diary) Thursday, September 2nd at 9:52PM EST (link)We all have to watch out not to fall into the liberal word traps.
Just the other day, I caught myself referring to a pro-abortion person as “pro-choice”.
“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”
African-American
finaljeopardy Thursday, September 2nd at 9:54PM EST (link)I think it’s a fair distinction when you’re discussing a candidate’s heritage and background. It’s more like you’re bringing up her culture than her race. But neither term, African-American or black, is offensive or conversely too PC.
Really?
jeffreywturner (Diary) Saturday, September 4th at 11:11AM EST (link)If you refer to all black folks living in America as “African-American”, then how would you distinguish between an American who just happens to be black, and someone who actually migrated here from Africa?
Case in point – a pal of mine is from South Africa. He is as lily-white as snow. He refers to himself as an “African American” and people think he is silly because he is so obviously white, however he is an actual “African-American”.
In the same vane – if you refer to Native-Americans as “Indians”, what do you call someone from India?
Also, “Black” is just like “Blond” or “Tall”. It simply describes a physical characteristic. Whereas “African-American” seems to “classify” people as something different than a regular American.
“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”
Someone who migrated from Africa
finaljeopardy Saturday, September 4th at 11:18PM EST (link)would be called an African immigrant or a naturalized American from Africa.
Option 2 is at least technically correct, in some cases.
jeffreywturner (Diary) Sunday, September 5th at 3:12PM EST (link)To call someone an “African immigrant” isn’t descriptive enough because it doesn’t say where they immigrated to. You would have to say “African immigrant to America” or something like that, but who is really going to say that mouthful?
“Naturalized American from Africa” would only be accurate for someone who has completed the naturalization process and attained their American citizenship, and even then, to say all that is a mouthful and I doubt anyone would really use such a term in real life.
However my white friend who refers to himself as an “African-American” has not completed the naturalization process yet. So, following that logic, we’d have to refer to him as a “Naturalized American to be from Africa”, and again, no one is going to use such terms in real life.
See what I mean? It is just silly. Let’s just call blacks black, whites white, blonds blond and brunettes brunette, etc. When we get caught up in these silly distinctions meant to classify people as a special and separate “class” of American by their heritage, we end up just making people feel more segregated, and less a part of the melting pot with just as much at stake in America as the rest of us.
“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”
As someone who works with an American from Africa
finaljeopardy Sunday, September 5th at 4:40PM EST (link)He tells people he is from Africa, but he is American. When people ask where he’s from, he says Africa. But he is very proud to naturalized and doesn’t care how long it takes to say so. He usually sets people straight quickly and says, “I am American.” Then they say, “Oh, really?” And he says, “YES.”
I couldn't agree more.
jeffreywturner (Diary) Sunday, September 5th at 7:04PM EST (link)Let’s just all be Americans.
Let’s not classify Americans by hyphenating them.
Race should be nothing more than a descriptive characteristic, like hair color, height, weight etc.
My wife and I are both Americans, plain and simple. She happens to be black and I happen to be white, but she is no more “African” than a man on the Moon, and I am no more “European” than a Toyota. Our daughter is neither African nor European in any way. She is plain old American, who just happens to be kinda olive-skinned.
“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”
Not quite my point
finaljeopardy Sunday, September 5th at 9:15PM EST (link)When someone self-identifies as African-American, they are referring to their heritage, a people who were brought here as slaves from Africa hundreds of years ago. As a white person who had nothing to do with this, I can say this was a stain on humanity and a blight on this great nation’s history. I condemn slavery and feel no embarrassment referring to blacks as African-Americans. But technically, the race is black, formerly Negro. One term is race, another is culture, but we are all Americans.
I feel ya here,
jeffreywturner (Diary) Sunday, September 5th at 10:48PM EST (link)but I have to say, I think about the only time someone self-identifies as “African-American” is on television or in a newspaper or magazine article. In real life it just isn’t normally done.
That hearkens back to my original point that the only white folks who use the term “African-American” to describe black folks are the ones who don’t actually know any.
Present company excluded I’m sure.
Interesting you mention the atrocity that was slavery. Just curious, if you think that is what it is all about, would you condemn President Obama for claiming the title”African-American”, given that his ancestors were not brought to America as slaves, and that he was raised by upper-middle-class white folks out in the burbs?
See what I mean? It can get downright silly. He is just a regular American like you and I, only without the bother of having to purchase suntan lotion.
Let’s take a page from the play-book of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. He didn’t talk about “African-American men and European-American men” joining hands and singing free at last, he talked about “black men and white men” joining hands and singing free at last. He didn’t dub people “African-American” or “Italian-American” or any of those ridiculous terms that have been made-up in recent years in the name of political correctness.
“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”
Say the term African-American is fine; it is still much misused, as it is here.
Locked and Loaded (Diary) Monday, September 6th at 11:13AM EST (link)Carroll’s parents may be of African descent, but she was born in Trinidad, West Indies.
One could say she is more Indian than African, except that we’re expected to automatically assume the particular hue of skin means African. As alluded to by jwt, you would be hard-pressed to find more diversity than that on the African continent.
Clearly, in everyday usage, African-American means black, nothing more.
My friend from Trinidad identifies with African-Americans
finaljeopardy Monday, September 6th at 7:36PM EST (link)For the African diaspora throughout the Americas, the correct terminology is “Afro-American peoples of the Americas.” Most African Americans are the direct descendants of captive Africans who survived the slavery era within the boundaries of the present United States, although some are—or are descended from—immigrants from African, Caribbean, Central American or South American nations.
But I know Trinidad is very culturally mixed. Many people throughout the Caribbean still have slave ancestry. African-American and black are not the same thing — again, one is race and the other is culture.
“That hearkens back to my original point that the only white folks who use the term “African-American” to describe black folks are the ones who don’t actually know any.”
I have lived in the East Village, Alphabet City, Bushwick and Prospect Heights neighborhoods of NYC throughout the past 14 years. That’s why I get so annoyed by these revisionist conversations. My friends respect my Appalachian heritage, as I respect their unique experiences. Any decent person can say without any embarrassment that some human practices are morally reprehensible. Civilization demands this of us as social creatures.
White guilt is not a problem for me, because few things have come easily to me in life, and I think that is the real root of these attitudes. Democratic liberals, especially the youth vote, are often trust fund kids who do not pay income taxes. Their adopted smugness is just conformity with likewise entitled members of the professional left — unions, academia, activists, etc.
So, you’re asking me whether I think Barack Obama is black enough? It’s more that I know he doesn’t care about poor minorities, when you look at the conditions in his former district, his deals with Rezko and Wright, his votes on BAIPA, his wife’s job as a hospital administrator. I think Obama is a sociopath and a narcissist, and his invented black identity is a cynical marketing ploy. But I cannot speak for black Amedricans as to whether he represents them. For blacks, his occupying such a powerful office changes the standards for black accomplishment and perception within our society.
miami dolphin
proudgop (Diary) Thursday, September 2nd at 7:47PM EST (link)the fact her son is on Miami Dolphins should be an added bonus vote outreach
geography balance
rdelbov Thursday, September 2nd at 5:50PM EST (link)as well–she is from Jacksonville(Northern Florida) and Scott resides in Naples (South)
Great pick.
Kids Care Vote
kingronjo Thursday, September 2nd at 6:43PM EST (link)voted against it in a 98-14 shellacking that passed. Forget the merits, this is the type of vote the Dems salivate over. It’s the teachers union’s specialty, ‘Cant the children have your vote???? Jennifer Carroll says, NO!!!!!!”
welcome back
proudgop (Diary) Thursday, September 2nd at 6:55PM EST (link)she must be an excellent pick if this is first post u made here in while
we must win Gov mansion
Carroll
Mason_Conservative (Diary) Thursday, September 2nd at 7:07PM EST (link)Should present some interesting problems for Sink in her choice. I live in Northern Virginia so this reminds of when Bob Ehrlich, who was also running against a female statewide office holder in Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, chose Michael Steele. It enlivened the ticket and put KTT on the defensive by reaching out to a minority community. KTT ended up picking Charles Larsen, a former commandant of Annapolis and ex-Republican. It proved a disaster because there was no way out for her – she picks a Republican and the Democrats are pissed – she picks a liberal and it just reinforces more of the same. Ehrlich-Steele cruised.
And Carroll right now is much more accomplished than Steele ever was and brings serious credibility to this ticket, the two (Scott and Carroll) are two sides to the same coin. Sink can’t make the same bang with her choice as Scott just did.
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Great pick
liberty1 Thursday, September 2nd at 7:10PM EST (link)She is going to make a great Lt. Governor
And a great Governor after Rick is done ... [nt]
Martin Knight (Diary) Thursday, September 2nd at 7:18PM EST (link)Or a great senator in 2012
finaljeopardy Thursday, September 2nd at 9:57PM EST (link)n/t
Or that too ... [nt]
Martin Knight (Diary) Friday, September 3rd at 7:18PM EST (link)Jennifer Carroll is impressive
Castor (Diary) Thursday, September 2nd at 7:30PM EST (link)I met Jennifer some years ago in a Southern Republican Leadership conference.She was in the legislature then and was pegged for future greatness. Hats of to Rick Scott. Let’s hope that Jennifer’s great future begins right now!!!!!
Rick Scott is not playing around
jmimac351 Thursday, September 2nd at 7:53PM EST (link)This pick was announced today and by this afternoon there was a banner ad on Drudge featuring Jennifer Carroll.
This campaign is buttoned-up and Scott / Carroll are going to win. Matter of fact, I think this pick even helps Rubio and vice versa.
Let Kendrick Meek and Alex Sink attack a black woman. Go for it.
Rick Scott is playing to win
Darin_H (Diary) Thursday, September 2nd at 8:53PM EST (link)Love this pick, absolutely love it.
Wondering how long before the Democrats and the media (BIRM) go after her family.
A visionary coward says that anger can be power, as long as there’s a victim on TV – Flat Top, Goo Goo Dolls
Well Going Through the Bills She Sponsored
Michael Dugas (Diary) Friday, September 3rd at 12:33AM EST (link)and Co-Sponsored I like what I see. Your never going to like everything a candidate does but I gotta say you couldn’t get much closer to a Home Run as far as Bill she put her name on.
Her military service and subsequent record and her civic activities are perfect. Important Committee memberships.
This is a very strong selection. And you know what else. This is huge as far as minority faces with R’s next to their names and the exposure that will bring.
Break out the popcorn and watch the MSM talk themselves into a hole
over this selection. How long do you think it will be before the word “pandering” shows up in a story about Scott’s selection of Carroll.
Intro to Federalist Papers; section 5;
paragraph 4.
“…dangerous ambition more often lurks behind the specious mask of zeal for the rights of the people than under the zeal for a firm and efficient government.”
Remember: A Citizen on the dole is a Liberal Vote at the Polls.
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Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum !
You're right, Michael.
uselogic Friday, September 3rd at 3:43PM EST (link)And the “pandering” ploy was already played in the Orlando Slant-inel article on the Carroll pick this morning. Highlighted interviews with folks who said he was just picking her only for: a) race, b) regional balance.
On the b) front, the Dem spokes-idiot said Scott didn’t care about the rest of Florida “because he lives in Naples”. Yeah, dude… Scott ran for Governor of FL because he only wanted to serve Naples. Bright folks, our local Dems.
I like the pick.
Steven Willis (Diary) Friday, September 3rd at 9:03AM EST (link)Still not happy about the primary, but this helps.
“Let it be said, I fought the good fight, I finished the race, I kept the faith.”
Paul, Second Timothy 4:7, The New Covenant.
Steve Willis
Professor of Law
University of Florida College of Law
My pick for Congress didn't win either
jmimac351 Friday, September 3rd at 5:37PM EST (link)But I will be voting for Adams in FL-24, who did win.
Scott and McCollum obviously don’t like each other but McCollum needs to decide which team he is playing for. I’m dissappointed at his pouting after the primary. Not supporting the GOP nominee means… he supports the person he wanted to defeat in Alex Sink?
It makes no sense to me and seems selfish and petty – especially given the interests people like us have in Liberals not winning.
I don’t particularly like McCollum or Scott, but I am sure as heck am showing up to make sure Sink doesn’t win.
McCollum unimportant
chihank Friday, September 3rd at 10:50AM EST (link)Much has been made about McCollum having sour grapes over losing to Rick Scott. If McCollum wants to pout, then let him do so. Rick Scott has the important endorsement – Jeb Bush.
Jeb Bush is doing what he can to promote unity in the GOP ranks. It is a shame that the FL GOP eroded after Jeb Bush left office.
Jennifer Carroll is a great choice...
morstar150 (Diary) Saturday, September 4th at 9:56PM EST (link)not just for Florida governor’s race but for the “racist” tea party nationally. She is a wonderful person and is the real American story that Obama pretends to know about. Of course, she is former military. See what Frances Rice of the National Black Republican’s Association says about her.
http://www.nbra.info/
great site.
Two days ago, I was holding my nose, today I’m waving the flag!!!
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil, in its worst, an intolerable one. (Thomas Paine)