(H/T: Big Government) Before we go any further: no, this is not a surprise to everyone. The Right was calling it health care rationing for a reason:
The new healthcare law will pack 32 million newly insured people into emergency rooms already crammed beyond capacity, according to experts on healthcare facilities.
A chief aim of the new healthcare law was to take the pressure off emergency rooms by mandating that people either have insurance coverage. The idea was that if people have insurance, they will go to a doctor rather than putting off care until they faced an emergency.
You know, English literature majors have a tacit understanding with medical doctors: they don’t write sestinas, and we don’t redesign the health care system while not even letting anybody see our work. Would that poly sci majors had the same deal going.
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Of course...
reaganiterepublicanresistance Monday, May 17th at 6:16AM EST (link)It’ll look like a Greyhound bus station in there
Try this:
http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/2010/05/viral-e-mail-of-week-why-wait.html
LOL
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This is one of the many parts that only a moron could love
bk (Diary) Monday, May 17th at 7:04AM EST (link)“A chief aim of the new healthcare law was to take the pressure off emergency rooms by mandating that people either have insurance coverage. The idea was that if people have insurance, they will go to a doctor rather than putting off care until they faced an emergency.”
But there is absolutely nothing that forces people to do so, or that will let ERs turn people away. So people who were using ERs before can still do so.
Digging for rare "or"
blooch Monday, May 17th at 10:10AM EST (link)I guess it’s buried with the lede….wait, here it is:
…”or face a stiff fine for not having insurance coverage.”
If Jay Heflin’s editor were using OSoft’s Special Editor software intead of a red pen, that pesky “either” would have been automagically removed along with the “or”.
“Lieutenant Dike wasn’t a bad leader because he made bad decisions. He was a bad leader because he made no decisions.”
Moe, I still rarely understand your blurb posts...
jackhammer Monday, May 17th at 9:22AM EST (link)The quoted passage doesn’t say why this will happen, but the next paragraph in the excerpted article does…and whoever wrote that article proofreads less than I do. There is a nice “either” without the second option…
and on another completely disconnected topic….I never before noticed those women on the classmates.com ads would pucker up and kiss every couple of seconds….
I am pretty sure primary care providers will fill the void given time,a nd market forces…but given the low reimbursements they would get, expect primary care clearing houses with allocations of 2 min/patient /visit….see what happens in other countries….but expect al sharpton, SEIU and co to be picketing those doctors as one of the next community organizer agitations.
to JackHammer
bobandruth2416 Tuesday, May 18th at 3:45PM EST (link)but I digress…..Hear about the one-armed fisherman, when asked how the fishing was, replied that it was great…”I caught one this long”, he said, holding out one hand.
"I am pretty sure primary care providers will fill the void given time"
Tbone (Diary) Monday, May 17th at 10:09AM EST (link)And you are pretty sure why? Is the University of Phoenix going to offer an online “Primary Care” medical degree in Spanish? I mean why pick strawberries or clean hotel rooms when you can be a Doctor?
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
I didn't say quality, I said quantity
jackhammer Monday, May 17th at 10:51AM EST (link)maybe the university fo phoenix will…maybe quality will go down….maybe there will be a version of nurse practitioner who willl….
I mean even before HCD, there ere all sorts of emergency room alternatives opening up…ones who were actually offering innovation and price transparency, like those solar clinics in walmarts,a dn some 24hour doc shops which were cheaper than emergency room bills….trust the markets….
If there are people out there who can pay for a service, chances are someone will fill tht service over time….maybe some doctor who thinks quantity over quality and pushes patients through in a no frills 2 minute deal to cash the $30 check the insurance gives…
Maybe it’ll be doctors who only passed their MD exam on the 3rd time around with exactly 1 point over failing grades the whole way around….
I mean, I was pretty sure a large swath of the uninsured who could pay out of pocket for basic care would have service available to them as well, because the market fills most demands. Of course those with no means and no intention of paying, they were somehow “being denied service”…”service” they never inteded to pay for…sort of like mean store owners who were denying people from stealing from their store….
Or maybe it will be immigration restrictions for all medical professionals…seen it in Canda, seen it in Germany….in Germany you got czech, polish and turkish doctors doing all the lower paying stuff…..fact is, america is still a nicer place to live than anywhere else in the world, and given a chance tonnes of people would take the lowest level of life in america over what they could expect in their country….and what would be a pittance for an american doctor might be seen as a golden opportunity by a bangladeshi or slovak MD.
Appendectomies-R-Us?
Tbone (Diary) Monday, May 17th at 7:22PM EST (link)Are you nuts? Go see Lucy and drop a nickle to find out.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
The old witches in the hollards
Scope (Diary) Tuesday, May 18th at 1:59PM EST (link)have some great herbal remedies for everything that ails ya. It beats buying all those boxes of Cracker Jacks hoping to get the ones with the medical degrees in them.
Pathetically - there is not going to be an increase in doctors...
qurys Tuesday, May 18th at 1:20PM EST (link)Because pathetically, the residency slots in the hospitals to train said doctors are limited. Be it primary care or brain surgery. Now the hospital can trade two brain surgery slots for 3 primary care slots…..sorta like Medical cap and trade. But the bottom line is that the majority of positions are funded by Medicare….and Medicare was broke….last time I heard.
Take a poll – how many of the folks out there are going to WalMart next time they need an MD?
As far as the uninsured paying….that would destroy Obama’s fine tuned healthcare bill. He needs the uninsured to be paying premiums, not cash at the office, to make this legislation work….even remotely.
You CANNOT trust the markets when the free markets are no longer free.
Texas doctors dropping medicare at alarming rate
Scope (Diary) Tuesday, May 18th at 1:53PM EST (link)http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7009807.html
Come June 1 when the medicare cuts take effect, this phenomenon will be spread across the country.
No big surprise
southernilpat Monday, May 17th at 12:00PM EST (link)The ERs were never filled just with people without insurance. There were plenty of people with insurance who couldn’t afford to take time off work to go to the doctor, or who didn’t feel they could wait the two weeks it was going to take to get an appointment. It’s not like you can just walk into your doctor’s office and be seen, you know. In addition, many people are told BY THEIR PCP to go to the ER, when the PCP wasn’t able (or didn’t want) to see them that day. I worked in a large clinic for 20 years, I’ve seen it.
If you are established with a PCP yet, do it NOW. If Obamacare does manage to kick in it will be too late. You won’t be able to find one who speaks English well enough for you to understand them. I would 100 times rather see an experienced NP or PA than a new grad, non English native speaking MD. Communication is vital to decent health care.
Oops
southernilpat Monday, May 17th at 12:01PM EST (link)Should be “If you are NOT established…” Darn I wish there was an Edit button LOL.
this may help innovate PCPs in long run
kad0005 Thursday, May 20th at 9:46AM EST (link)Primary care providers will fill the void. It starts with PCP’s requiring an “administrative fee” for all the uncompensated work they do – filling your prior auths, TARs, electric scooter, FMLA and disabillity forms. Then most doctors (if they’re not working under salary for a non-profit Kaiser type foundation model), will require a yearly or monthly fee. A retainer simply to see the doctor.
Similarly to how you pay your monthly cell phone, cable or water bill… you will pay a monthly doctor bill. This will not be an unreasonable amount. Think $300-1500/yr. But then with that fee, we would only need to see 400-600 patients instead of the 1500-2000. It’s happening already with companies like MDVIP. This is a good thing.
As doctors transition into this new type of medical practice, coupled with the 32 million new patients in the system, wait times will increase for outpatient visits as well as emergency room wait times.
It will be difficult for a few years, but as PCPs start to make more money with less patient load, less rushed visits and a better quality of life, more medical students will choose the cognitive specialties over the procedural ones. This will lead to more PCPs over the long run.
It’ll take time, but it will happen.
But yes, get your PCP now. Please don’t be offended when they ask an enrollment fee or yearly premium. They are a scare but valuable resource.
primary care doctors do appendectomies?
jackhammer Tuesday, May 18th at 4:59AM EST (link)nt