Leaked Voicemail from Overseas Customer Support Technician Reveals Frustrations Associated with Outsourcing Terrorist Interrogations: http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/05/exclusive-leaked-voicemail-from.html

Obama certainly is not.

I know you were only quoting the original Guardian article but it bothers me every time I read that.

Putting aside for the moment that the CIA only ever waterboarded 3 detainees, and they stopped in 2003, six years before Obama rode in triumphantly to “ban” waterboarding in 2009…

This is from Obama’s executive order “banning” non field-manual interrogation:

There shall be established a Special Task Force on Interrogation and Transfer Policies (Special Task Force) to review interrogation and transfer policies.

(ii) to study and evaluate the practices of transferring individuals to other nations in order to ensure that such practices comply with the domestic laws, international obligations, and policies of the United States and do not result in the transfer of individuals to other nations to face torture or otherwise for the purpose, or with the effect, of undermining or circumventing the commitments or obligations of the United States to ensure the humane treatment of individuals in its custody or control.

Translation: Now that the dust has settled and Bush has done the hard, and some say dirty work, Obama can play the good cop who saves the world from Bush’s excess. — BUT If another 9/11 occurs, Obama wants the power to do *exactly what Bush did*. And why? Because it worked. And it was necessary under the circumstances.

But you don’t have to take my word for it. Just ask Obama about his Special Task Force loophole.

Or you can ask Mullah Barader his opinion on Obama’s extraordinary rendition ban as Moe points out.

Or you can ask Raymond Azar.

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/08/11-8

Or you can ask Al gore:

The first time I proposed a snatch, in 1993, the White House Counsel, Lloyd Cutler, demanded a meeting with the President to explain how it violated international law. Clinton had seemed to be siding with Cutler until Al Gore belatedly joined the meeting, having just flown overnight from South Africa.

Clinton recapped the arguments on both sides for Gore: Lloyd says this. Dick says that. Gore laughed and said, “That’s a no-brainer. Of course it’s a violation of international law, that’s why it’s a covert action. The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-schwartz/lets-not-forget-al-gores-_b_69349.html

You are one of the big guys here.

With which I don’t disagree.

How would you like to be waterboarded?

This is just a question. From a Vietnam vet.

I don’t presume to know the answer.

I somehow doubt that the Pakistani ISI will be too worried about Miranda, Erick Holder, a Senate investigation or a trial or anything else other getting what they want from Mullah Barader.

Rendition is prohibited as “prisoners of war may not be transferred to any state where they are likely to be tortured or inhumanely treated. ”
http://www.parl.gc.ca/information/library/PRBpubs/prb0748-e.htm#history

So technically, it is not rendition if Mullah Baradar is apprehended in Pakistan and “interrogated” in Pakistan. Participation by agenst of the US Government do not make it rendition.

They were crowing how this was un-presidented and showed that even without enhanced interrogation methods valuable intel was being obtained. Only problem was that conclusion is not based on the evidence. I look forward to seeing the MSM spin this story when they find out what was in fact used to gain his “co-operation.”