These I still see the point of putting up. It’s not like the USSC is about to rule to strike down restrictions… OK, that joke is simply not going to work this early in the (snowed-in) day. Short version: nine of ten, the Democrats managed to make up some of their deficit in the economy category (hey, that joke worked!), and I conclude that Government Ethics requires more in the way of prolonged scandals on the Democratic side in order to move public perceptions off of its current default.
| Jan-10 | Dec-09 | ||||||
| Issue | Dem | GOP | Diff | Dem | GOP | Diff | Shift |
| Health Care | 37% | 49% | (12) | 42% | 44% | (2) | (10) |
| Education | 36% | 40% | (4) | 41% | 39% | 2 | (6) |
| Social Security | 35% | 45% | (10) | 41% | 41% | - | (10) |
| Abortion | 32% | 46% | (14) | 38% | 43% | (5) | (9) |
| Economy | 42% | 46% | (4) | 36% | 48% | (12) | 8 |
| Taxes | 34% | 50% | (16) | 36% | 47% | (11) | (5) |
| Iraq | 38% | 46% | (8) | 38% | 45% | (7) | (1) |
| Nat’l Security | 40% | 49% | (9) | 37% | 50% | (13) | 4 |
| Gov’t Ethics | 33% | 30% | 3 | 31% | 34% | (3) | 6 |
| Immigration | 36% | 43% | (7) | 33% | 45% | (12) | 5 |
More after the fold.
There are two sets of comments, here. In the short term, it makes a lot of sense for the Democrats to shift from health care to the economy: their focus on the former did them no favors. Of course, given that it’s an open question whether that’s actually smart. Every time the Democrats focus on something, it ends up alarming the American voting public. Don’t believe me? Look at this comparison between this month and May’s (the first month that I started looking at this):
| Jan-10 | May-09 | ||||||
| Issue | Dem | GOP | Diff | Dem | GOP | Diff | Shift |
| Health Care | 37% | 49% | (12) | 53% | 35% | 18 | (30) |
| Education | 36% | 40% | (4) | 49% | 36% | 13 | (17) |
| Social Security | 35% | 45% | (10) | 48% | 39% | 9 | (19) |
| Abortion | 32% | 46% | (14) | 41% | 41% | - | (14) |
| Economy | 42% | 46% | (4) | 44% | 43% | 1 | (5) |
| Taxes | 34% | 50% | (16) | 41% | 47% | (6) | (10) |
| Iraq | 38% | 46% | (8) | 41% | 43% | (2) | (6) |
| Nat’l Security | 40% | 49% | (9) | 41% | 48% | (7) | (2) |
| Gov’t Ethics | 33% | 30% | 3 | 40% | 29% | 11 | (8) |
| Immigration | 36% | 43% | (7) | 36% | 37% | (1) | (6) |
It’s admittedly not as bad for the Democrats as a comparison from 2008 would be, but I refuse to believe that the Democrats intended to drop thirty points in health care in less than a year. Particularly in defense of a policy that isn’t even going to work. In the long term, 2009 turned out to be a disaster for the Democrats from a public relations point of view; it would probably be a good idea if they swallowed hard, made a clean break with their current policies, and accept the short-term fallout with good grace and soft words.
No, I don’t expect that to happen, either.
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Crossposted to Moe Lane.
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Hey Moe. I think there must be a typo in your post here
eburke (Diary) Saturday, February 6th at 10:10AM EST (link)You’ve got the numbers showing that voters give the Republicans a 14 point margin on the issue of Abortion.
That can’t be right. I mean we all *know* that being pro-life is a losing issue for the GOP which is why we simply *must* nominate pro-choice candidates in the primaries.
::rolling eyes::
“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
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I can't believe they still have a +3 on ethics.
Steph C (Diary) Saturday, February 6th at 10:31AM EST (link)Open and transparent? Nope
Tax Cheats? Yes
I could go on but …
I suppose the good news is that it’s still a drop from +11 to +3.
Maybe one more poll in the future…
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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Well, Steph, this is what happens when you have the media
eburke (Diary) Saturday, February 6th at 10:34AM EST (link)magnifying every single misstep on one side, and burying even the most egregious of scandals on the other.
Case in point, can you even begin to imagine the 24/7 coverage if it was the *Republican* nominee for Lt. Governor who was being investigated for holding a knife to the throat of a hooker?
Well, that and you can always tell if it’s a Dem in trouble just by whether or not the AP actually identifies the party of the perpetrator.
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LOL, you're right about that.
Steph C (Diary) Saturday, February 6th at 10:51AM EST (link)Although the new media is changing that, which I suppose if the reason they want to shut us down through net neutrality.
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You know how to get onto the Net? I mean you being
eburke (Diary) Saturday, February 6th at 10:58AM EST (link)a female hillbilly and all that…I’m stunned.
How’d you ever figure it out in between picking the cow pies out from between your toes?
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Haven't you ever seen the hillbilly guide to windows?
Steph C (Diary) Saturday, February 6th at 11:00AM EST (link)“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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Isn't that Windex and a dishrag? -nt-
eburke (Diary) Saturday, February 6th at 11:04AM EST (link)“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
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Actually it's called Winders.
Steph C (Diary) Saturday, February 6th at 11:09AM EST (link)http://www.superlaugh.com/1/xp.htm
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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BTW
Steph C (Diary) Saturday, February 6th at 11:11AM EST (link)you don’t use a dishrag to warsh winders. They leave streaks.
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Hey, I'm just a guy. You can't expect me to know how
eburke (Diary) Saturday, February 6th at 12:56PM EST (link)to do womens’ work
(Ow!!! I *hate* when Mrs. Burke’s looking over my shoulder when I blog. Those frying pans freaking hurt!!)
“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
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Steph, this former WV'n remembers that it is pronounced...
yoyo (Diary) Sunday, February 7th at 10:14PM EST (link)Deeshrag to warsh winders…with wadder from da crick down da holler. Dat dair keepsum from streakin.
Just saying.
LOL
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Govt. Ethics
vamoose Saturday, February 6th at 10:35AM EST (link)“I conclude that Government Ethics requires more in the way of prolonged scandals on the Democratic side in order to move public perceptions off of its current default.”
The default here is that neither party is trusted. Government ethics is the only topic that neither party can achieve 40%.
Dems: 33%
Reps: 30%
Thank you, Captain Obvious (nt)
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Don't we all remember the automoton of Pelosi
renny (Diary) Saturday, February 6th at 2:10PM EST (link)mouthing “Culture of Corruption” several million times, each one picked up by AP, Reuters (what a sterling organization–the WH complained of an article and it was pulled from Drudge), and the NYSiimes, and magnified with every retelling.
Just imagine what the Rasmussen numbers would be if the MSM weren’t all tingly all over from Obamanation emanations.
Doesn't look bad
Brian_Roastbeef (Diary) Saturday, February 6th at 10:55AM EST (link)I see major gains for the Republican party on the issues that have been in the spotlight the most lately, and that’s what counts to me. Health care has been a top issue, and its clear the Democrats have lost the consent of the governed on that. The Social Security issue shows that they’ve lost the elderly, and also must represent dissatisfaction with government spending. Meanwhile, abortion has been in the news lately because of Tim Tebow – if the numbers reflect that, it looks as if the Tebows are winning their battle.
The exception, the 8 point Dem pickup on the economy, I think will swing back toward us some more by next month. It is likely reflecting optimism among Democrats surrounding the SotU address that Obama intends to make his “hard pivot” and get to work on the unemployment issue. Of course, we know that his “hard pivot” is better described as “the same old crap.” When the 2010 plan for fixing the economy proves to be the same as the 2009 plan that has shown no result other than spending our money, that issue will be back to double digits for the GOP.
As for Government ethics: well..my belief is that the 37% who didn’t give an answer are on to something. Liabilities on both sides, but as they are the incumbents the Dems should suffer more for it.
OPPOSITION TO Health Care, as proposed by
romeg Saturday, February 6th at 2:13PM EST (link)Obama et al, has been a top issue and was THE issue for Scott Brown but come November, as it was November ’08, it is not even on the radar. Of course, if Joseph Stalin had been running against John McCain, he probably would have won so that election, as a point on a regression analysis, is an outlier. But, still, given the absolute failure of this administration to address THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE: JOBS, and their wretched excesses in virtually every category, for them to show ANY gains over Republicans shows an appalling willingness of those polled to bury their heads in the sand and return the same foxes to stand guard over the chicken coop.
“Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” – C. S. Lewis
Consider, the following is O's Sen. record on health care votes:
renny (Diary) Saturday, February 6th at 2:13PM EST (link)1) NO expanding opportunities for small business medical insurance plans (motion to invoke cloture, May 11, 2006),
2) NO allowing the use of private HSA funds for insurance purchases (HR 2, January 25, 2007),
3) NO allowing the purchase of medical insurance across state lines (HR 976, April 2, 2007),
4) NO requiring immigrants on Z Visas maintain minimum health coverage for themselves (to avoid “charity cases”) (S 1348, June 6, 2007),
5) NO preventing the erosion of coverage (amendment, HR 976, August 2, 2007),
6) NO preserving employer-sponsored coverage (amendment, HR 976, August 2, 2007),
(2007 was a banner year for NO votes of health care reform)
7) NO allowing deductions of health care costs (amendment, March 3, 2008).
And who is the Party of NO?
The Democrats are more trusted on ethics than Republicans? Can someone explain that?
AceInTX (Diary) Saturday, February 6th at 11:14AM EST (link)Jefferson just went to prison…Frank, Dodd and Rangel are under investigative clouds…
I mean…come on!
Simple.
NightTwister (Diary) Saturday, February 6th at 12:02PM EST (link)Conservatives and independents care about eithics. Liberals and progressives don’t. No matter what happens to their candidates in the way of ethics, so long as they get the votes they want they don’t care.
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill
I tried explaining this to a lib co-worker
JoeG Saturday, February 6th at 7:01PM EST (link)When the whole Gov. Sanford thing popped I mentioned that his career was over. He didn’t believe me.
I just asked him to list the Republicans that came to mind with sex scandals. Then list how many stayed in office.
Now do the same for Dems.
He opted to change the subject…
Dems +3 On Government Ethics?
Ed Coyne Saturday, February 6th at 11:21AM EST (link)Are you kidding me? Something is definitely askew, here.
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Why?
Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, February 6th at 12:06PM EST (link)This is a poll of public opinion, not a measurement of fact.
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Opinions can be a big waste of time
Richard Mullins (Diary) Saturday, February 6th at 12:12PM EST (link)Quite often opinions go along with feelings in the meaningless category. It should be noted that it seems that many don’t remember the old line on opinions(I’m not going to repeat it due to foul language that follows).
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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.
Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.
In the world of things that don't matter,
mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, February 6th at 1:04PM EST (link)“ethics” is right up their with global warming. It does not matter. Why? Well, mostly because “ethics” are defined by the folks who are being measured, thus you act in ways that either are or should be against the law and still find that behavior “ethical”.
Never let lawyers define anything.
What's so troublesome about these numbers is
romeg Saturday, February 6th at 12:19PM EST (link)that even having squandered so much credibility on the Health Care debate and with the unraveling of the Global Warmism Ferago, the economy going deeper into the tank as measured by stock prices, the scandalous behavior of Dems in the securing their 60 votes for the Health Care bill in the Senate and the Christmas Day terrorist attack in Detroit that the Dems are able to still show gains in support for their views on the Economy, National Security and Government ethics.
November is a very long way off and at this rate and with the help of their accomplices in the state run media, they may well be able to regain their footing and retain substantial majorities in both houses as well as various governor’s mansions around the country.
Can the electorate in this country really be this uh uninformed?
“Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” – C. S. Lewis
Or the GOP just peaked too early
gumbyandpokey Saturday, February 6th at 6:24PM EST (link)Personally, I think the “question time” backfired badly, and that helped Obama’s overall numbers and the numbers on the economy.
The GOP isn't "peaking", the Dems are crashing. nt
mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, February 6th at 6:27PM EST (link)No I'm pretty sure we're on the rise (nt)
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And on that we will have a semantic disagreement, Neil.
mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, February 6th at 6:47PM EST (link)My rationale for my statement is this. Democrats have had an absolute lock on public policy for the last year. Everything that’s been done has been done not just without Republican help, but by excluding Republicans. Thus, for good or evil, the rain falls only on Democrats.
Republicans not only have been excluded from the debate, they’ve also – with the exception of National Security – been more or less silent. That is illustrated very well by Republicans economic plan. Or their health care plan. Bottom line, with the exception of National Security issues the Rs are simply standing by watching.
So, since most people prefer to make a choice when they are polled, the pick “R” not “D” when the Ds are really screwed up.
Look for the Democrats to bounce back
SteveLA (Diary) Saturday, February 6th at 6:36PM EST (link)“Dead Cat” bounce that is.
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