Nine points. In Masssachusetts. And look here:
Both candidates get better than 70% of the vote from members of their respective parties, but Brown leads 65% to 21% among voters not affiliated with either of the major parties.
Rasmussen’s not pretending that this race isn’t a tough one for Brown, and neither will I: but I told a reporter yesterday that Coakley would have to win by at least ten points to keep national Democrats from getting nervous. Her being single-digits now should set off alarm bells for both parties…
See also Legal insurrection, Jules Crittenden, and Sisu.
Moe Lane
Crossposted to Moe Lane.
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Let's give it the Old College Try.
Section9 Tuesday, January 5th at 9:33AM EST (link)It’s Massachussetts. The Dems could run Hitler and win in that state. Still, it’s worth a try.
“History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it”-Winston Churchill
This is a statewide election
NotSoBlueStater (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 10:47AM EST (link)Bill Weld. Paul Cellucci. Jane Swift. Mitt Romney. Ed Brooke. etc., etc.,
Just because the congressional districts are locked down by gerrymandering doesn’t mean the state is locked down by liberals. Kennedy and Kerry were both such long-term incumbents that they became unbeatable here.
Why does Coakley get that sort of respect? She’s well left of the mainstream and doesn’t have the power of incumbency. Plus, Brown is an attactrive candidate. It’s not like the Republicans put up Alan Keyes.
Let’s just positi for discuaaion that Scott Brown better reflects the values of the majority of Massachusetts voters (I believe this is true.). Wouldn’t it be wise to make sure that they at least know this going to the polls?
I have been puzzled from the outset at the lack of national intereest in this campaign. It’s winnable. I think the netroots would have been all over this one if the roles were reversed.
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WOW!
cari Tuesday, January 5th at 9:33AM EST (link)I was kind of thinking that the absence of a poll was a good thing- it was keeping Brown’s ascent under the radar. Hopefully this poll won’t spring the Dems into action.
Also, for those in MA who aren’t paying attention, the fact that the libertarian candidate’s name is Joe Kennedy. Maybe that will siphon some Dem votes from Coakley.
Cari! Don't say that!
profg (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 11:03AM EST (link)You’ll be accused of all sorts of dastardly deeds!
Be respectful, or be banned. No Profanity.
No, you will only be accused of dastardly deeds when you frame your argument on false pretenses.
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 11:07AM EST (link)By the way, do you agree with Kennedy that you can’t be “for small gov’t and be pro war” as he stated in the debate this morning?
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Ouch! *That's gonna leave a mark, Aaron!
eburke (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 5:25PM EST (link)And what’s up with bringing up little details like facts?
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aesthete (Diary) Wednesday, January 6th at 3:16AM EST (link)What does “pro-war” even mean? Is it, “pro- OIF and OEF”? Or is it the immature idea that a nation can elect to not use war, or the threat of war, as a tool in foreign policy and not be destroyed?
Also, nice one. I can hear him singeing from over here.
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I Hope Not
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 9:34AM EST (link)I hope it doesn’t send off alarm bells for the Democrats. The GOP is pretty motivated already. Martha isn’t even campaigning, and her base isnt even trying. But this is about as good as I expected.
I’d like to see it linger in that range in the press, while Brown closes the gap. I’ve been looking for some data on the difference a GOTV effort can make. I dont think there is much precedent for a special election in January in New England, but I’m just going to throw 5% percent out there. I suspect the real number is probably about 5% less than whatever is polled.
I really dont think Dems are going to vote. The senior, student, city/section eight, and Capuano, Khazei, and Pagliuca vote will all be supressed.
Brown Just Debated Coakley on WTKK nt
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 9:35AM EST (link)nt
Well..................
makemyday (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 9:44AM EST (link)How’d he do?
When all else fails…….. Shoot!
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Listening now...
profg (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 9:56AM EST (link)It’s wrapping up – all three really did well at holding their own.
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Keep Calling
kmacwayne (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 9:42AM EST (link)They will bring out the SEIU – so lets keep calling our fellow citizens in Mass and ask them for the vote for Brown! Watch for “found” votes in trunks as well –
They will be keeping a close eye on this vote – wonder if the black panthers are getting their clubs ready for poll duty? Perhaps Holder will issue a special permit for this…..
LIVE DEBATE FEED
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 9:44AM EST (link)Easy link
http://www.969bostontalks.com/senatedebate.aspx
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Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 9:46AM EST (link)Eagen and Braude are liberals with Kennedy and Coakley are all on one side. Brown on the other.
I just was in MA
proudgop (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 9:55AM EST (link)Spent the Holidays at my sister who lives right outside Boston ( Belmont) and I saw no indication any race was on horizon
Asked my sister if she thought Brown could win and she shrugged hopefully
You have to hope Dem turnout is low but Independents come out
Wed received 45% of vote for US Senate Race in 1996 compared to 41% for Romney in 1994 ( they both were running against Incum and one in Presidential year)
A win is hopeful although and even if its loss a bare one could be scary for Dems nationwide
Rasmussen has approval rating at 49
earlgrey (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 10:01AM EST (link)That is surprising. Any ideas for that.
Signed up for the money bomb. Next Monday it will be cool to watch.
Any know the logistics of seating the newly elected Senator?
jeffreywturner (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 10:05AM EST (link)Let’s say Brown wins, what is the exact date he will be seated in the Senate?
If it is a couple weeks after the election, look for the Dems to rush Obamacare to a cloture vote before that happens.
“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”
Days
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 10:14AM EST (link)Its a matter of days, but who knows what kin of tricks the Dems would have up their sleeves.
The hope is that a Brown victory alone might get some moderates to pause and fight for “respecting the process”. They butchered the Burris appt. They butchered the Kirk appt.
I hope there is at least one Dem, maybe fellow New Englander Lieberman, who is not tied to Reid, that will say respect the process and letevery vote be heard.
Logistics? In Massachusetts?
swami7774 (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 10:51AM EST (link)If Brown were to win, I wouldn’t put it past the MA Legislature to pass a new law granting them the right to appoint an “interim” senator to fill out the last two years of Kennedy’s term.
They’d make it retroactive–to the day before the special election.
Today, there is a name for the political doctrine that rejoices in scarcity of everything except government. The name is environmentalism.
Where's the RNC?
erp Tuesday, January 5th at 10:09AM EST (link)Will the Republican leadership wake up and start running ads about how the Dems are meeting in secret to cram through the medical insurance scam in congress, the Dem’s lack of interest in keeping us safe from terrorism, the plethora of czars, Obama’s disastrous foreign policies …
It could be a piece of cake, why isn’t our side screaming from the roof tops?
erp
Because in MA you would be on the wrong side of the issue
tbaleno Tuesday, January 5th at 10:29AM EST (link)More than 50% of the people in MA don’t have an issue with anything you brought up. It may even make them not vote for brown.
This isn't one you want to nationalize.
jeffreywturner (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 10:36AM EST (link)The number of moderates and conservatives who would be swayed by RNC involvement is probably much lower than the number of liberals who would be incited and motivated to turn out by the same in Massachusetts. This is not a race you want to nationalize.
“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”
The "shut your pie hole but send me money" approach
tankertodd (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 2:29PM EST (link)That works for me – let MA pick their representative, but let’s support the guy we like.
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I knew it.
profg (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 10:13AM EST (link)Rasmussen Reports question: “Who do you favor for U.S. Senate? Scott Brown, Martha Coakley, Some other candidate, or Not Sure?”
I’m still waiting to see an actual poll that asks the question correctly, so that we can see exactly how much impact the Kennedy name has on the low-IQ Mass. Dems: “Who do you favor for U.S. Senate? Scott Brown, Martha Coakley, Joseph Kennedy, or Not Sure?”
If it had been worded that way – like they’ll see it on the ballot come Jan. 19th – I’m guessing it would have looked more like Brown-41, Coakley-35,Kennedy-17, Not Sure-5.
Of course I could be wrong – but wouldn’t it be nice to know? Come on, Rasmussen – I thought you were a professional pollster? Leaving off a candidate’s name, when his name is KENNEDY in Massachusetts? Seriously?
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Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 10:18AM EST (link)That some other candidate received one percent of the vote. Yeah, 16% of the public would be fooled.
By the way, do you agree that you cant be pro-war and small government like Joke Kennedy stated.
What a waste of air space. Trying to have a serious debate and I have to listen to this clown talking about his IT experience.
Apparently Rasmussen is not as manic about Kennedy's
janis (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 10:20AM EST (link)name as you are. Given that he gets the big bucks and the reputation for doing what he does, perhaps he knows best.
maybe it's because Kennedy is a raving Paultard.
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 10:20AM EST (link)Just sayin’
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
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Please...........
makemyday (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 10:24AM EST (link)We are trying to have a serious discussion here.
Just sayin (hate emoticons)
When all else fails…….. Shoot!
“Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.” –American author Mark Twain (1835-1910)
“We should never despair, our Situation before has been unpromising and has changed for the better, so I trust, it will again. If new difficulties arise, we must only put forth new Exertions and proportion our Efforts to the exigency of the times.” –George Washington, letter to Philip Schuyler, 1777
Oop's
makemyday (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 10:25AM EST (link)Wrong reply to this!
When all else fails…….. Shoot!
“Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.” –American author Mark Twain (1835-1910)
“We should never despair, our Situation before has been unpromising and has changed for the better, so I trust, it will again. If new difficulties arise, we must only put forth new Exertions and proportion our Efforts to the exigency of the times.” –George Washington, letter to Philip Schuyler, 1777
Aaron, that wasn't the least bit respectful. Henceforth, you are
janis (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 10:36AM EST (link)banned in Boston.
But I used the smiley face Janis...that makes it all better. nt
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 10:41AM EST (link)conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat
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Hinz Rule.
NightTwister (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 11:06AM EST (link)C’mon, folks. It’s long past time.
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill
5x5 Night Twister! nt
nessa (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 11:18AM EST (link)“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
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teh twitter
I just want to know why he got away with all of this?
penguin2 (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 11:25AM EST (link)It seems to me he broke the rule of posting in “bad faith.” Deception, and thinking we are all idiots. And of course, Hinz Rule it is. But it bothered me he could pull it off.
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since you dodged the question I asked on the diary you wrote where you said you supported Kennedy, here it is again.
gekster (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 11:23AM EST (link)Kennedy’s view on Afghanistan:
gekster Monday, January 4th at 9:18PM EST (link)
Opposes President Obama’s troop increase, saying: “We cannot end a war if we continue to escalate it.
Says: “The role of the American military should be to defend against attack or the imminent threat of attack, not to act as an ongoing police state on foreign soil.’’
And since you support him, you think it’s much better to fight the terrorists on American soil then on forieghn soil?
I know the Hienze rule was called, but I asked as of the date.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
Ok folks, 2012 is here. Get involved
Don't make me pull this car over..
speciallist (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 11:46AM EST (link)(staring into rear view mirror…)
Don't have to pull it over Pa.
gekster (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 11:57AM EST (link)I’ll just sit and be quit now.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
Ok folks, 2012 is here. Get involved
G'bye
Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 11:50AM EST (link)That’s enough shilling for your third party candidate.
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You know what he's doing right now, Neil, don't you?
janis (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 11:54AM EST (link)He’s having delightful visions of Erick taking you out to the woodshed over this gakking. Poor guy, he’ll be so disappointed that when he realizes that, instead, it got you the extra pork chop at supper tonight.
Hmm
Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 11:57AM EST (link)No comment
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And come on
Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 11:52AM EST (link)Serious people don’t use Eddie Murphy films as the basis of a political argument.
That’s how we know you’re just trolling.
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Thank you Neil. TheBunny loves you. nt
mbecker908 (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 11:54AM EST (link)That's a bunch of bandwidth we'll never get back! nt
Achance (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 11:56AM EST (link)In Vino Veritas
These numbers say he has a good chance!
makemyday (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 10:13AM EST (link)This from Rasmussen:
Brown Coakley
Very Favorable 26% 21%
Somewhat Favorable 32% 39%
Somewhat Unfavorable 20% 13%
Very Unfavorable 5% 22%
Not Sure 17% 4%
When all else fails…….. Shoot!
“Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.” –American author Mark Twain (1835-1910)
“We should never despair, our Situation before has been unpromising and has changed for the better, so I trust, it will again. If new difficulties arise, we must only put forth new Exertions and proportion our Efforts to the exigency of the times.” –George Washington, letter to Philip Schuyler, 1777
Coakely still overall has more favorable than Brown
tbaleno Tuesday, January 5th at 10:36AM EST (link)Sure he has more vary favorable, but she has many more somewhat favorable. I guess the trick is to eat at some of the somewhat favorable.
Maybe news will get out about her ethics problems. And her illegal use of state campaign funds.
But look at the difference in unfavorables...
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 10:40AM EST (link)That paints a clearer picture.
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
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He's down 2 points
makemyday (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 10:47AM EST (link)in favorable’s and up 10 points unfavorables with 17% undecided in him. That in my mind is huge in that state!
When all else fails…….. Shoot!
“Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.” –American author Mark Twain (1835-1910)
“We should never despair, our Situation before has been unpromising and has changed for the better, so I trust, it will again. If new difficulties arise, we must only put forth new Exertions and proportion our Efforts to the exigency of the times.” –George Washington, letter to Philip Schuyler, 1777
The distant past
Castor (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 10:31AM EST (link)Once upon a time ,long ,long ago in the distant past when there was a baseball team in Boston called the Boston Braves, the fans would chant: ¨Spahn and Sain and pray for rain¨in hopes they could rotate their two best pitchers.
This year the Republican chant should be : ¨Snow in the air and on the ground
will help Scott Brown to go to town.¨
If Martha loses this
Sundayjack (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 10:50AM EST (link)More parochial point, but if Martha loses this race she’s going to be burned at the stake by MA Democrats. She’s running a very poor campaign, and losing a seat held by Kennedys (and surrogates) for the last 57 years will not be handled well. Reason number 42 on why to vote Scott Brown, but still a great reason. Wouldn’t be surprised to see a quiet shake-up in her campaign, with a handful of Obamafolk descending on Massachusetts. Maybe even a visit from Himself.
Massachusetts Military personnel – get your absentee ballots in for Lt. Col. Brown!!
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Again--the two magic words....
swami7774 (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 10:53AM EST (link)…that could win it for Brown:
Plymouth County.
Today, there is a name for the political doctrine that rejoices in scarcity of everything except government. The name is environmentalism.
jtkell100
jtkell100 Tuesday, January 5th at 10:56AM EST (link)Massachusetts Patriots Please save this country from this socialist takeover.
This is not a health care bill. This is a bill that has been written so that it would be impossible for any one to understand it. Please vote for Scott Brown so We can start over again on a real health care reform bill. Every one that cares about their Mother, Father, Sisters, Brothers, Daughters, Sons, Aunts, Uncles, Friends and Neighbors please vote for Scott. This bill will kill medicare and bankrupt every state in the union. Massachusetts you will forever be in the history books for saving this Nation.
Thanks
FYI, the title of your comment should be something other than your name. nt
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 10:58AM EST (link)conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
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Hey John Cornyn...GET OUT OF THE PRIMARIES AND HELP BROWN IN MA!!! nt
AceInTX (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 11:08AM EST (link)Aw, Ace, you purist you.
eburke (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 5:20PM EST (link)Here you go, again, advocating that Cornyn not be involved in GOP primaries, even to help conservatives, and instead funnel money to a moderate Republican in MA.
I tell ya, you purists are all alike!
Wait a minute…….huh?
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Brown on Laura Ingraham's show...
swami7774 (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 11:17AM EST (link)…coming up this hour.
Or so she says.
Today, there is a name for the political doctrine that rejoices in scarcity of everything except government. The name is environmentalism.
It's the Independents who will decide this race. nt
joayn (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 11:27AM EST (link)America is an idea; a noble idea that essentially boils down to the shocking belief that the masses are in fact not asses. John Nolte
Bingo, find out what they don't like about Coakley and you'll win
Richard Mullins (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 11:33AM EST (link)I guess that should work, find what the electorate doesn’t like about you best opponent and use what you find out against them. That works out.
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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.
Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.
shock & awe
masquerade Tuesday, January 5th at 12:29PM EST (link)Talk about shock & awe if an unknown republican candidate takes the seat of the once mighty and powerful Ted Kennedy!
I say it’s possible.
I work in the lovely liberal state of MA, but unfortunate for me, I can’t vote here.
shock & awe
masquerade Tuesday, January 5th at 12:29PM EST (link)Talk about shock & awe if an unknown republican candidate takes the seat of the once mighty and powerful Ted Kennedy!
I say it’s possible.
I work in the lovely liberal state of MA, but unfortunate for me, I can’t vote here.
Question
dnlchisholm Tuesday, January 5th at 1:26PM EST (link)I really want to know what the results would have been if Joe Kennedy had been included. I can’t decide who he pulls votes from more.
Also, do we know how the debate went this morning?
The Fight Is On!
1stRichard (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 4:30PM EST (link)With national support now ramping up for Brown and the Brown Brigade kicking in overdrive results are going to change quickly in favor of brown. Coakley is still on vacation in her campaign relying on her SEIU/ACORN thugs.
Massachusetts is not all that far left, yet Coakley continues her campaign of socialist/communist class warfare and her socialist/communist subsidy of business. Local opinion indicates some are realizing there are strings attached to this candy, mostly in the unemployment line. Most are underemployed in this state, a good number are on fixed incomes and are starting to realize the cost of socialism/communism and understand they cannot afford any more. I live across the river from what was once “The Queen of Industrial Cities, Holyoke Massachusetts, but now it is a burnt rotting corpse of its former self. More and more people around here are making the connection, we cannot afford the path we are on now and we need change, the candy is too costly as is Candy Coakley.
Also see
http://brownbrigade.ning.com
We have the “TeaParty PhoneBank Brown Brigade”
http://brownbrigade.ning.com/group/teapartyphonebankbrownbrigade
Now we also have the American Brigade
http://brownbrigade.ning.com/group/americanbrigade
Scott Brown will be on Hannity in a few minutes
ColdWarrior (Diary) Tuesday, January 5th at 5:04PM EST (link)You can listen here:
http://www.wabcradio.com/
Thank you.
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