There is some suggestion that the Russians are behind the recent embarrassing Climategate data dump:
Suspicions were growing last night that Russian security services were behind the leaking of the notorious British ‘Climategate’ emails which threaten to undermine tomorrow’s Copenhagen global warming summit.
An investigation by The Mail on Sunday has discovered that the explosive hacked emails from the University of East Anglia were leaked via a small web server in the formerly closed city of Tomsk in Siberia.
(Via JammieWearingFool) Specifically, the Russian FSB, which is of course the successor organization to the KGB. You know: the organization that Vladimir Putin used to run. And if you’re wondering why a slightly institutionally paranoid nation-state that’s a major producer of fossil fuels might be interested in publishing compromising materials involving groups trying to cut fossil fuel production… well, read that again until you work it out.
On the bright side, maybe this will encourage Democrats to start pushing back on (unrelated) Russian attempts to aggrandize themselves at our expense. It could happen: Ted Kennedy is dead, after all.
Crossposted to Moe Lane.
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harlan Sunday, December 6th at 11:05PM EST (link)I thought Barbara Boxer was on their side.
This is the biggest difference from the Soviet Union
civil truth (Diary) Sunday, December 6th at 11:17PM EST (link)The Soviet Union was Communist, which at its core was oppositional to the U.S. because Communism – in its Marxist-Leninist roots – was fundamentally antagonistic to our free-enterprise, decentralized, representative democracy.
Today’s Russia, on the other hand, is nationalistic at its core. True, the leadership is centralized and wanting to stay in charge through non-democratic methods. But their actions are rooting in their perceived self-interest, which means that they are not basing their decisions primarily in reaction to the U.S. but rather what works best for them as they solve their problems and try to regain status as a major power.
Thus sometimes their interests line up with the U.S. and at other times (probably most) they don’t. But unlike their Soviet predecessors, they’re not reflexly anti-American.
After all, Russia on several occasions has been warning us (under Obama’s leadership) not to repeat the errors of the Soviet Union in terms of excessive central control. And they have been standing up to Islamic extremism.
Not to mention that a number of AGW skeptics have been Russian scientists, And probably they don’t want the U.N. or any other supranational organization laying down CO2 controls on them as they rebuild their economy. They are not dogmatic leftists – and they aren’t into national suicide.
So let’s accept help from any source we can get to save our own skins – and the freedom of the world from the AGW totalitarians who want to springboard from this hysteria to financial and political world dominance.
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Perfectly stated, civil.
Uma Richie (Diary) Monday, December 7th at 7:47AM EST (link)Rational actors are so much easier to deal with. Hopefully Putin won’t turn into megalomaniac.
"Russian Truth-Seekers Expose Democrat's Deceitful Agenda"
6eorge Jetson (Diary) Monday, December 7th at 12:30AM EST (link)Ha! Called out by the Ruskies!
Well if it were the Russians I just have one thing to say....
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Monday, December 7th at 6:32AM EST (link)THANK YOU!!!!! I appreciate it and I pray to God they dump a hell of a lot more! Whomever allowed these LIARS to be caught deserves a medal or money ahhh BOTH!!!
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What about the previous rumor ...
skorrent1 (Diary) Monday, December 7th at 10:02AM EST (link)That the hacked stuff was sent to BBC six weeks ago and ignored by them for a month? That doesn’t sound like the Russians. Also, wasn’t it first posted on RealClimate and dropped by them before it popped up on the Russian site and was quickly linked all over? Doesn’t sound like Russians, either.
Nice to think they’re on God’s side this time, but it’s unlikely.
;) nt
mschmitt (Diary) Monday, December 7th at 10:08AM EST (link)usque ad finem
Articulate summary of global warming
Dr. Botkin Monday, December 7th at 10:16AM EST (link)An extremely cogent and articulate discussion of the “global warming” fraud, ESPECIALLY TODAY. Please read, digest and FORWARD (before one of algore’s people erases it from YouTube)!! (New. Just recently posted.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=bKrw6ih8Gto
Uh-Oh...
mdyou (Diary) Monday, December 7th at 10:32AM EST (link)…the Russkies didn’t stop to think that Boxer might investigate! I’ll bet they’re shaking in their boots!
I really hate to say this...
robertbelvedere Monday, December 7th at 4:34PM EST (link)…but, if the story is true, the thuggish regime in Moscow may have done the world a great service.
Quoted from and Linked to at: FSB A-OK?
The story is plausible. In fact
redneck_hippie (Diary) Monday, December 7th at 4:57PM EST (link)in random moments I had previously speculated that Russian security had something to do with it. The Russians have been very good at making things they did not like to disappear. Why shouldn’t they be equally adept at making things suddenly appear?