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	<title>Comments on: Voter Fraud Video Watch &#8211; NJ.</title>
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		<title>By: E Pluribus Unum</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/voter-fraud-video-watch-nj/comment-page-1/#comment-24975</link>
		<dc:creator>E Pluribus Unum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(a) it was not offered as a legal brief
(b) this tracks with actual verified Democrat Party behavior in New Jersey this week.
(c) he states name and precinct, and his face is showing.  That AUTOMATICALLY grants a little bit of credibility.  ABC-NBC-CBS can easily find this guy if they really want him, they can find the election judge of that precinct and ask if this guy was rejected and forced to use a provisional ballot, because an absentee ballot had been used in his name.  They can visit the county election commission and lean on them to find the absentee ballot, find the guy&#039;s voter registration card, and report whether the signatures match.&#039;

Because the above is true, this has enough of a presumption of credibility that it can be offered on a blog site like this, as an accusation -- both left and right can and should follow up on this to see what the real truth is.

You are basically saying we should not even toss out this supposed case of voter fruad until weeks from now, when we&#039;ve proven it.  I say no - blog site, flaming arrows are part of the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(a) it was not offered as a legal brief<br />
(b) this tracks with actual verified Democrat Party behavior in New Jersey this week.<br />
(c) he states name and precinct, and his face is showing.  That AUTOMATICALLY grants a little bit of credibility.  ABC-NBC-CBS can easily find this guy if they really want him, they can find the election judge of that precinct and ask if this guy was rejected and forced to use a provisional ballot, because an absentee ballot had been used in his name.  They can visit the county election commission and lean on them to find the absentee ballot, find the guy&#8217;s voter registration card, and report whether the signatures match.&#8217;</p>
<p>Because the above is true, this has enough of a presumption of credibility that it can be offered on a blog site like this, as an accusation &#8212; both left and right can and should follow up on this to see what the real truth is.</p>
<p>You are basically saying we should not even toss out this supposed case of voter fruad until weeks from now, when we&#8217;ve proven it.  I say no &#8211; blog site, flaming arrows are part of the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack_Savage</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/voter-fraud-video-watch-nj/comment-page-1/#comment-24555</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack_Savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is leaking water in VA like a sieve. Thanks for giving us a preview of the lame spin that Dems will use tomorrow.

As I have written before, Creigh Deeds is cut from the same cloth as Webb and Warner. They voted against the $250 billion &quot;doc fix&quot; because they see the tsunami.

Keep repeating it and you might begin to believe it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is leaking water in VA like a sieve. Thanks for giving us a preview of the lame spin that Dems will use tomorrow.</p>
<p>As I have written before, Creigh Deeds is cut from the same cloth as Webb and Warner. They voted against the $250 billion &#8220;doc fix&#8221; because they see the tsunami.</p>
<p>Keep repeating it and you might begin to believe it.</p>
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		<title>By: leftylurker</title>
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		<dc:creator>leftylurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And i admire your steadfast opposition to it!

=)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And i admire your steadfast opposition to it!</p>
<p>=)</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/voter-fraud-video-watch-nj/comment-page-1/#comment-24552</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I admire your courage despite this referendum on the policies of the modern democratic party, and all it&#039;s many apparatuses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I admire your courage despite this referendum on the policies of the modern democratic party, and all it&#8217;s many apparatuses.</p>
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		<title>By: leftylurker</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/voter-fraud-video-watch-nj/comment-page-1/#comment-24547</link>
		<dc:creator>leftylurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And it&#039;s hard to pull a man to safety when 1) he has a creepy name, and 2) he&#039;s busy trying to drown himself.

We can argue about this till the end, but there&#039;s not going to be a real referendum on Obama till 2012.  Everything else is just speculation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it&#8217;s hard to pull a man to safety when 1) he has a creepy name, and 2) he&#8217;s busy trying to drown himself.</p>
<p>We can argue about this till the end, but there&#8217;s not going to be a real referendum on Obama till 2012.  Everything else is just speculation.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/voter-fraud-video-watch-nj/comment-page-1/#comment-24546</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which means not only did the voters reject Deeds, they rejected Obama.

You can deny it all you like, but thems the facts jack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which means not only did the voters reject Deeds, they rejected Obama.</p>
<p>You can deny it all you like, but thems the facts jack.</p>
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		<title>By: leftylurker</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/voter-fraud-video-watch-nj/comment-page-1/#comment-24537</link>
		<dc:creator>leftylurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do lurk here.  =)

Sure, there was serious democratic mobilizing on this like there would be for any race, but the candidate himself, again, the one with the creepy name, did all he could to distance himself from Dem bread and butter...so, in an election where the right is all fired up, he totally pissed off his hard left supporters, who didn&#039;t come out.

I mean, I&#039;m pretty damn lefty, and the only reason I voted this election was to vote NO on another dang millage tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do lurk here.  =)</p>
<p>Sure, there was serious democratic mobilizing on this like there would be for any race, but the candidate himself, again, the one with the creepy name, did all he could to distance himself from Dem bread and butter&#8230;so, in an election where the right is all fired up, he totally pissed off his hard left supporters, who didn&#8217;t come out.</p>
<p>I mean, I&#8217;m pretty damn lefty, and the only reason I voted this election was to vote NO on another dang millage tax.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/voter-fraud-video-watch-nj/comment-page-1/#comment-24529</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Virginia

The Democratic Governors Association spent $4 million to get Creigh Deeds elected.

The Democratic National Committee spent $6 million to get Deeds elected.

Obama campaigned for Deeds multiple times.

Organizing for America sent a mail piece to 300,000 “surge voters”, or voters who voted for the first time in 2008, urging them to vote for Deeds.

Organizing for America set up phone banks for Creigh Deeds.

Obama and Deeds are best buds as far as the electorate is concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Virginia</p>
<p>The Democratic Governors Association spent $4 million to get Creigh Deeds elected.</p>
<p>The Democratic National Committee spent $6 million to get Deeds elected.</p>
<p>Obama campaigned for Deeds multiple times.</p>
<p>Organizing for America sent a mail piece to 300,000 “surge voters”, or voters who voted for the first time in 2008, urging them to vote for Deeds.</p>
<p>Organizing for America set up phone banks for Creigh Deeds.</p>
<p>Obama and Deeds are best buds as far as the electorate is concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: leftylurker</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/voter-fraud-video-watch-nj/comment-page-1/#comment-24527</link>
		<dc:creator>leftylurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t get 30% approval for doing a good job.

I figured if he won it was because his get out the vote money...err..effort, was going to be better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t get 30% approval for doing a good job.</p>
<p>I figured if he won it was because his get out the vote money&#8230;err..effort, was going to be better.</p>
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		<title>By: Leopard1996</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/voter-fraud-video-watch-nj/comment-page-1/#comment-24525</link>
		<dc:creator>Leopard1996</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will feel so justified in leaving the state that it won&#039;t be funny.  How do you elect a guy who has done nothing but do everything to destroy everything about the state.  

And he didn&#039;t have a George Bush to blame it on, the state was run by Democrats since after Christie Whitman left office, and NJ was pretty decent when she left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will feel so justified in leaving the state that it won&#8217;t be funny.  How do you elect a guy who has done nothing but do everything to destroy everything about the state.  </p>
<p>And he didn&#8217;t have a George Bush to blame it on, the state was run by Democrats since after Christie Whitman left office, and NJ was pretty decent when she left.</p>
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		<title>By: leftylurker</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/voter-fraud-video-watch-nj/comment-page-1/#comment-24524</link>
		<dc:creator>leftylurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Creigh (I mean, the name alone...) ran about as far from Obama as he could have.  

You&#039;re not going to fire up the wingnuts if you oppose Cap and Trade and the Public Option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Creigh (I mean, the name alone&#8230;) ran about as far from Obama as he could have.  </p>
<p>You&#8217;re not going to fire up the wingnuts if you oppose Cap and Trade and the Public Option.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/voter-fraud-video-watch-nj/comment-page-1/#comment-24523</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you should be worried about is that you are losing VA after Obama took it by a wide margin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you should be worried about is that you are losing VA after Obama took it by a wide margin.</p>
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		<title>By: leftylurker</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/voter-fraud-video-watch-nj/comment-page-1/#comment-24521</link>
		<dc:creator>leftylurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(and I&#039;ll concede this on the basis of Rod&#039;s post)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(and I&#8217;ll concede this on the basis of Rod&#8217;s post)</p>
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		<title>By: leftylurker</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/voter-fraud-video-watch-nj/comment-page-1/#comment-24519</link>
		<dc:creator>leftylurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the guy should get prosecuted.  No question about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the guy should get prosecuted.  No question about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/voter-fraud-video-watch-nj/comment-page-1/#comment-24516</link>
		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if you&#039;ve ever actually dealt with ordinary witnesses you well know that.  Now, I know there are some foundational issues; go read my Election Fraud:101 post from yesterday which should demonstrate that I know a little bit about fraud and how to investigate it.

But, unless you have some evidence that he&#039;s a plant or a ringer, his assertions are every bit as weighty and credible as your denials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if you&#8217;ve ever actually dealt with ordinary witnesses you well know that.  Now, I know there are some foundational issues; go read my Election Fraud:101 post from yesterday which should demonstrate that I know a little bit about fraud and how to investigate it.</p>
<p>But, unless you have some evidence that he&#8217;s a plant or a ringer, his assertions are every bit as weighty and credible as your denials.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod_Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/voter-fraud-video-watch-nj/comment-page-1/#comment-24515</link>
		<dc:creator>Rod_Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: leftylurker</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/voter-fraud-video-watch-nj/comment-page-1/#comment-24514</link>
		<dc:creator>leftylurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t like people saying that it was the machines, because what they needed to accept was that &quot;YOUR MESSAGE IS BRO-KEN.&quot;  The Terry McAullife wing of the Dem party was done, and it wasn&#039;t voting machines that was making Dems lose elections, it was bad policy.

This is what you all are doing now, and it appears to be working.   In fact, if NJ goes Dem, you could see it as MORE proof that you need to get back to basics..CC wasn&#039;t exactly a purist as far as I have read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t like people saying that it was the machines, because what they needed to accept was that &#8220;YOUR MESSAGE IS BRO-KEN.&#8221;  The Terry McAullife wing of the Dem party was done, and it wasn&#8217;t voting machines that was making Dems lose elections, it was bad policy.</p>
<p>This is what you all are doing now, and it appears to be working.   In fact, if NJ goes Dem, you could see it as MORE proof that you need to get back to basics..CC wasn&#8217;t exactly a purist as far as I have read.</p>
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		<title>By: leftylurker</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/voter-fraud-video-watch-nj/comment-page-1/#comment-24510</link>
		<dc:creator>leftylurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>okay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay</p>
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		<title>By: Leopard1996</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/voter-fraud-video-watch-nj/comment-page-1/#comment-24509</link>
		<dc:creator>Leopard1996</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/voter-fraud-video-watch-nj/comment-page-1/#comment-24508</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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