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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Kraut-hammer.&#8217;  Very droll, Newsweek.</title>
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		<title>By: Rich Fader</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/10/18/kraut-hammer-very-droll-newsweek/comment-page-1/#comment-24017</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Fader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...who&#039;s Biter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;who&#8217;s Biter?</p>
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		<title>By: diakrioi</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/10/18/kraut-hammer-very-droll-newsweek/comment-page-1/#comment-23990</link>
		<dc:creator>diakrioi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a few weeks ago while I was waiting on my son to come out of his guitar lesson.  Someone had put a copy on the table in the waiting area.  I read an article that attempted to prove that Barry Obama is the true political descendant of Edmund Burke.  

I&#039;m still laughing.

[I am] against this most monstrous of all meddling on the part of authority: the meddling with the subsistence of its people. . . . [One must] manfully . . . resist the very first idea, speculative or practical, that it is within the competence of government . . . to supply the poor with necessaries. . . . To provide for us in our necessities is not in the power of government. It would be a vain presumption in statesmen to think they can do it.&quot; -- Edmund Burke, &#039;Thoughts and Details on Scarcity&#039;, 1795</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a few weeks ago while I was waiting on my son to come out of his guitar lesson.  Someone had put a copy on the table in the waiting area.  I read an article that attempted to prove that Barry Obama is the true political descendant of Edmund Burke.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m still laughing.</p>
<p>[I am] against this most monstrous of all meddling on the part of authority: the meddling with the subsistence of its people. . . . [One must] manfully . . . resist the very first idea, speculative or practical, that it is within the competence of government . . . to supply the poor with necessaries. . . . To provide for us in our necessities is not in the power of government. It would be a vain presumption in statesmen to think they can do it.&#8221; &#8212; Edmund Burke, &#8216;Thoughts and Details on Scarcity&#8217;, 1795</p>
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		<title>By: farstar99</title>
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		<dc:creator>farstar99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides inbred liberals, that is.

I have contacts who still work there, and even they admit it&#039;s not worth reading, now that it&#039;s an admitted propaganda rag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides inbred liberals, that is.</p>
<p>I have contacts who still work there, and even they admit it&#8217;s not worth reading, now that it&#8217;s an admitted propaganda rag.</p>
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		<title>By: illinoisconservative</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/10/18/kraut-hammer-very-droll-newsweek/comment-page-1/#comment-23987</link>
		<dc:creator>illinoisconservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and as I said in my later comment, it is highly unlikely..

A simple check of the print copy will show the intent either way.

Given what they are likely to pay in the print industry these days, hiring pre-schoolers to do layout does not seem too far out of the realm of possibilities!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and as I said in my later comment, it is highly unlikely..</p>
<p>A simple check of the print copy will show the intent either way.</p>
<p>Given what they are likely to pay in the print industry these days, hiring pre-schoolers to do layout does not seem too far out of the realm of possibilities!</p>
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		<title>By: illinoisconservative</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/10/18/kraut-hammer-very-droll-newsweek/comment-page-1/#comment-23986</link>
		<dc:creator>illinoisconservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wars have started from lesser misunderstandings and mistakes.

I&#039;m not the only one here who has reserved judgment and given Newsweek the benefit of the doubt.  I guarantee you I will be sufficiently indignant when someone has checked the print copy and it turns out it is hyphenated.

I&#039;m sorry I did not meet your expectations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wars have started from lesser misunderstandings and mistakes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not the only one here who has reserved judgment and given Newsweek the benefit of the doubt.  I guarantee you I will be sufficiently indignant when someone has checked the print copy and it turns out it is hyphenated.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry I did not meet your expectations.</p>
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		<title>By: The_Gadfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>The_Gadfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having worked a long, long time ago in the desktop publishing business with one of the cheaper programs that was on the market at the time (Ventura Publisher long before it was acquired by Corel), that type of hyphen is put in as a conditional hyphen, not a hard hyphen. Editing is too likely to shift the word position before the text goes to print and its a PITA to keep taking in and out hard hyphens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having worked a long, long time ago in the desktop publishing business with one of the cheaper programs that was on the market at the time (Ventura Publisher long before it was acquired by Corel), that type of hyphen is put in as a conditional hyphen, not a hard hyphen. Editing is too likely to shift the word position before the text goes to print and its a PITA to keep taking in and out hard hyphens.</p>
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		<title>By: The_Gadfly</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/10/18/kraut-hammer-very-droll-newsweek/comment-page-1/#comment-23984</link>
		<dc:creator>The_Gadfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Artist who goes by the moniker Moby suggested during one of the elections that leftists should go to our sites and pose as one of us to show us how stupid we really are. The ploy didn&#039;t work but at least in the blogosphere the name stuck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artist who goes by the moniker Moby suggested during one of the elections that leftists should go to our sites and pose as one of us to show us how stupid we really are. The ploy didn&#8217;t work but at least in the blogosphere the name stuck.</p>
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		<title>By: penguin2</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/10/18/kraut-hammer-very-droll-newsweek/comment-page-1/#comment-23983</link>
		<dc:creator>penguin2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband is from Alabama, though I am the transplanted NY/CO/VA soul.  I am fairly new to the site, but I agree, wonderful smart people contribute and participate here.  Usually just being here can enlighten one, unless they refuse to think!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband is from Alabama, though I am the transplanted NY/CO/VA soul.  I am fairly new to the site, but I agree, wonderful smart people contribute and participate here.  Usually just being here can enlighten one, unless they refuse to think!</p>
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		<title>By: Warrior</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/10/18/kraut-hammer-very-droll-newsweek/comment-page-1/#comment-23981</link>
		<dc:creator>Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy, you guys are smart.  I&#039;m just a rube from Alabama, but I&#039;m learning!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy, you guys are smart.  I&#8217;m just a rube from Alabama, but I&#8217;m learning!</p>
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		<title>By: penguin2</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/10/18/kraut-hammer-very-droll-newsweek/comment-page-1/#comment-23978</link>
		<dc:creator>penguin2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My point, which was not quite as clear as it should have been, is your frequent devil&#039;s advocacy positions.  Your first reaction was to question the authenticity of the premise vs putting that in as an afterthought. Where was your concern for the potential racial slur, even if it was &quot;accidental&quot; or a fluke in the world of electronic writing.

I expected to see serious indignation from anyone who commented on this, on behalf of Dr. Krauthammer, not a way to excuse the &quot;alleged&#039; offense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point, which was not quite as clear as it should have been, is your frequent devil&#8217;s advocacy positions.  Your first reaction was to question the authenticity of the premise vs putting that in as an afterthought. Where was your concern for the potential racial slur, even if it was &#8220;accidental&#8221; or a fluke in the world of electronic writing.</p>
<p>I expected to see serious indignation from anyone who commented on this, on behalf of Dr. Krauthammer, not a way to excuse the &#8220;alleged&#8217; offense.</p>
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		<title>By: penguin2</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/10/18/kraut-hammer-very-droll-newsweek/comment-page-1/#comment-23976</link>
		<dc:creator>penguin2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A moby here is considered someone on site not showing their true colors.  Trolls come right out and throw the flames and get banned right away.  Mobies, try to finesse their presence and last a little longer.  I&#039;ve run into martellus before in another diary, and that is what I am referencing.  In fact, there are several similar to him in this thread, and Neil already got rid of one of them.  

The way I understand the RS rules; you certainly can come here from the other side and stay as long as you can make reasoned arguments in the discussion. But you have to be upfront about your beliefs, you don&#039;t get to disguise yourself. If it is to get your Leftist talking points in or disrupt and insult the members, no go. 

martellus chided me previously for misspelling his name, and was incorrect on my misspelling.  I had had the great Roman general Marcus Claudius Marcellus.  No matter, mysteries are my favorite fiction reads and I like to read between the lines...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A moby here is considered someone on site not showing their true colors.  Trolls come right out and throw the flames and get banned right away.  Mobies, try to finesse their presence and last a little longer.  I&#8217;ve run into martellus before in another diary, and that is what I am referencing.  In fact, there are several similar to him in this thread, and Neil already got rid of one of them.  </p>
<p>The way I understand the RS rules; you certainly can come here from the other side and stay as long as you can make reasoned arguments in the discussion. But you have to be upfront about your beliefs, you don&#8217;t get to disguise yourself. If it is to get your Leftist talking points in or disrupt and insult the members, no go. </p>
<p>martellus chided me previously for misspelling his name, and was incorrect on my misspelling.  I had had the great Roman general Marcus Claudius Marcellus.  No matter, mysteries are my favorite fiction reads and I like to read between the lines&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Especially if he is a conservative.
And think- under Obamacare, they could with hold medical care to him, and not only silence him, but save money, as well.
Those lefties capable of reflection and conscience-based thinking will certainly have something to puzzle over when they find themselves inevitably in the cross hairs of the anti-freedom powers they have encouraged and smirked about.
That we live in a nation where the Administration and its backers regularly call for censorship, suppression and destruction of those voices who dare stand up, means we are much closer to being led by Hugo Chavez than by people who respect and understand freedom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Especially if he is a conservative.<br />
And think- under Obamacare, they could with hold medical care to him, and not only silence him, but save money, as well.<br />
Those lefties capable of reflection and conscience-based thinking will certainly have something to puzzle over when they find themselves inevitably in the cross hairs of the anti-freedom powers they have encouraged and smirked about.<br />
That we live in a nation where the Administration and its backers regularly call for censorship, suppression and destruction of those voices who dare stand up, means we are much closer to being led by Hugo Chavez than by people who respect and understand freedom.</p>
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		<title>By: illinoisconservative</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/10/18/kraut-hammer-very-droll-newsweek/comment-page-1/#comment-23963</link>
		<dc:creator>illinoisconservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>someone needs to check the print version.

On-line versions are simply an electronic version of what went into the magazine.

If someone simply took it and posted it online without checking it, there is a small possibility that the hyphen was properly used in the print version, but was retained improperly in the online version.

With today&#039;s pagination and formatting software, this is unlikely.. but, I just said we should check.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>someone needs to check the print version.</p>
<p>On-line versions are simply an electronic version of what went into the magazine.</p>
<p>If someone simply took it and posted it online without checking it, there is a small possibility that the hyphen was properly used in the print version, but was retained improperly in the online version.</p>
<p>With today&#8217;s pagination and formatting software, this is unlikely.. but, I just said we should check.</p>
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		<title>By: redpens</title>
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		<dc:creator>redpens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He can&#039;t think beyond Obama&#039;s talking points</description>
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		<title>By: Warrior</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/10/18/kraut-hammer-very-droll-newsweek/comment-page-1/#comment-23961</link>
		<dc:creator>Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that they are both liberal, but Dr. Krauthammer is a conservtive liberal and Juan Williams is a liberal liberal, if you know what I mean.

Dr. Krauthammer did work for Jimma Cata, but he also worked for Reagan.  He is not religious, but he is not an atheist, etc.

Meanwhile, Juan WIlliams is an NPR MOONBAT....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that they are both liberal, but Dr. Krauthammer is a conservtive liberal and Juan Williams is a liberal liberal, if you know what I mean.</p>
<p>Dr. Krauthammer did work for Jimma Cata, but he also worked for Reagan.  He is not religious, but he is not an atheist, etc.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Juan WIlliams is an NPR MOONBAT&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Warrior</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/10/18/kraut-hammer-very-droll-newsweek/comment-page-1/#comment-23959</link>
		<dc:creator>Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it like a hidden troll looking for something to pounce on and cause trouble?

I wonder if he&#039;s just being clever using the moniker &quot;Marcellus&quot; and signature line &quot;The Hammer&quot; or does he realize Charles Martel (Latin: &quot;Carolus Martellus&quot;) stopped the northern advance of Islamic expansion into Western Europe and was also known as &quot;The Hammer&quot;.

A huge defeat for Islam, and possibly the salvation of Western Civilization,  is certainly not the kind of thing a lib would celebrate.  Of course, it would be the perfect cover, I guess.  Please enlighten me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it like a hidden troll looking for something to pounce on and cause trouble?</p>
<p>I wonder if he&#8217;s just being clever using the moniker &#8220;Marcellus&#8221; and signature line &#8220;The Hammer&#8221; or does he realize Charles Martel (Latin: &#8220;Carolus Martellus&#8221;) stopped the northern advance of Islamic expansion into Western Europe and was also known as &#8220;The Hammer&#8221;.</p>
<p>A huge defeat for Islam, and possibly the salvation of Western Civilization,  is certainly not the kind of thing a lib would celebrate.  Of course, it would be the perfect cover, I guess.  Please enlighten me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Warrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you&#039;re sooooo right...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re sooooo right&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: misterbill</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/10/18/kraut-hammer-very-droll-newsweek/comment-page-1/#comment-23956</link>
		<dc:creator>misterbill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 05:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He too had a diving accident and is now paralyzed from the neck up!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He too had a diving accident and is now paralyzed from the neck up!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: WarEagle01</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/10/18/kraut-hammer-very-droll-newsweek/comment-page-1/#comment-23947</link>
		<dc:creator>WarEagle01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 03:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re just reverting to form.  Remember, these are the people who founded the Ku Klux Klan.  We&#039;re talking about the party of Orville Faubus, Lester, Maddox, and Bull Connor, just to name a few.   Bigotry is in their DNA. They try to cover it up by tossing out the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.claremont.org/publications/crb/id.928/article_detail.asp&quot;&gt;Republican racism myth&lt;/a&gt; from time to time.  But deep down, Democrats are just a sad bunch of Kluckers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re just reverting to form.  Remember, these are the people who founded the Ku Klux Klan.  We&#8217;re talking about the party of Orville Faubus, Lester, Maddox, and Bull Connor, just to name a few.   Bigotry is in their DNA. They try to cover it up by tossing out the <a href="http://www.claremont.org/publications/crb/id.928/article_detail.asp">Republican racism myth</a> from time to time.  But deep down, Democrats are just a sad bunch of Kluckers.</p>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 03:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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