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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Tenthers.&#8217;  Rather&#8230; lame of the Left, don&#8217;t you think?</title>
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		<title>By: diakrioi</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/09/22/tenthers-rather-lame-of-the-left-dont-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-23079</link>
		<dc:creator>diakrioi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 05:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: diakrioi</title>
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		<dc:creator>diakrioi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 05:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The people who wrote it would not consider defending the kind of speech you describe.  The reason that certain speech is restricted on radio and TV is because those mediums are open to anyone.  On cable and XM, which are closed, the restrictions disappear.  It is a reasonable accommodation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people who wrote it would not consider defending the kind of speech you describe.  The reason that certain speech is restricted on radio and TV is because those mediums are open to anyone.  On cable and XM, which are closed, the restrictions disappear.  It is a reasonable accommodation.</p>
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		<title>By: Finrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Finrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for the wordplay in your subject.</description>
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		<title>By: The_Gadfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>The_Gadfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it uncanny how real live conspiracy theorists do not know the real meanings of words?</description>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to the extent that I could go over and beat the s@#t out of you for saying f#$k in front of my kids, I might be OK with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to the extent that I could go over and beat the s@#t out of you for saying f#$k in front of my kids, I might be OK with that.</p>
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		<title>By: pro_libertate</title>
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		<dc:creator>pro_libertate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t really bring myself to call myself a libertarian. The whole point about being able to say the F word on the radio if &quot;I want to&quot; misses a big part of the point. Your right to say the F word exists only so much as it does not impact my right to NOT hear it. For you to broadcast the F word over the radio (without warning) would necessarily be coercive to the extent that you are imposing your values on me without a valid ability for me to avoid it if I so choose.

This of course doesn&#039;t even get into the whole point of manners, civility, or common decency. You may be perfectly happy with the F word being used around your children, but I, for one, am not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t really bring myself to call myself a libertarian. The whole point about being able to say the F word on the radio if &#8220;I want to&#8221; misses a big part of the point. Your right to say the F word exists only so much as it does not impact my right to NOT hear it. For you to broadcast the F word over the radio (without warning) would necessarily be coercive to the extent that you are imposing your values on me without a valid ability for me to avoid it if I so choose.</p>
<p>This of course doesn&#8217;t even get into the whole point of manners, civility, or common decency. You may be perfectly happy with the F word being used around your children, but I, for one, am not.</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not my fault you don&#039;t understand grammar as pertains to the text of the Constitution.  They use commas and semi-colons for a reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not my fault you don&#8217;t understand grammar as pertains to the text of the Constitution.  They use commas and semi-colons for a reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go promote your kooky radio show elsewhere.</description>
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		<title>By: jeffscottshow</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeffscottshow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Aaron, I&#039;m glad that the only freedom you care about is freedom to engage in political speech.  At least now I know who NOT to trust my liberties to.

Why are so-called &quot;conservatives,&quot; who are supposed to care about the Constitution, so willing to flush the Constitution down the drain when it doesn&#039;t fit with their agenda?

This is why so many libertarians say that there is no difference between Republicans and Democrats, conservatives and liberals.  They all want to take away our freedoms, just at different paces and in different ways.  Republicans/conservatives pretend to care about economic liberties and don&#039;t care at all about personal liberties.  Democrats/liberals pretend to care about personal liberties and don&#039;t care at all about economic liberties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Aaron, I&#8217;m glad that the only freedom you care about is freedom to engage in political speech.  At least now I know who NOT to trust my liberties to.</p>
<p>Why are so-called &#8220;conservatives,&#8221; who are supposed to care about the Constitution, so willing to flush the Constitution down the drain when it doesn&#8217;t fit with their agenda?</p>
<p>This is why so many libertarians say that there is no difference between Republicans and Democrats, conservatives and liberals.  They all want to take away our freedoms, just at different paces and in different ways.  Republicans/conservatives pretend to care about economic liberties and don&#8217;t care at all about personal liberties.  Democrats/liberals pretend to care about personal liberties and don&#8217;t care at all about economic liberties.</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In other words....you.</description>
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		<title>By: jeffscottshow</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeffscottshow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know you don&#039;t.

I specifically pointed out the First Amendment.  Most conservatives, when they hear profanity on the airwaves, want to call the government and make sure that there are certain decency standards to make sure that those seven horrible words can&#039;t be uttered.  If I want to use the F-word on the radio, I should be allowed to use the F-word on the radio.  If you don&#039;t like it, turn it off.  Leave the government out of it.  But NOOOO, that&#039;s not acceptable.  We might poison our children!

I&#039;d be interested in hearing what 1/3 of libertarianism you consider to be &quot;crap.&quot;  Is it the part where we want individual liberty?  Because that&#039;s my favorite part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know you don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I specifically pointed out the First Amendment.  Most conservatives, when they hear profanity on the airwaves, want to call the government and make sure that there are certain decency standards to make sure that those seven horrible words can&#8217;t be uttered.  If I want to use the F-word on the radio, I should be allowed to use the F-word on the radio.  If you don&#8217;t like it, turn it off.  Leave the government out of it.  But NOOOO, that&#8217;s not acceptable.  We might poison our children!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested in hearing what 1/3 of libertarianism you consider to be &#8220;crap.&#8221;  Is it the part where we want individual liberty?  Because that&#8217;s my favorite part.</p>
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		<title>By: RoguePolitics</title>
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		<dc:creator>RoguePolitics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And it is true that a lot of conservatives have blinders when it comes to particular issues.

Whatever the federal law might be, hold it up to the constitution, if it isn&#039;t in there then let it be a state issue or a non issue.

The drug laws are a perfect example. When the progressives wanted to outlaw alcohol they recognized a need for an amendment but when it came to drugs like cocaine, heroin or pot they ignored the constitution. The sad thing is now most &quot;conservatives&quot; totally support the drug war even though it is a progressive socialist invention. It causes far more crime than it will ever prevent. Alcohol prohibition did the same and they had the good sense to repeal it.

And NO I don&#039;t use any of them. I just don&#039;t want to sacrifice my liberty trying to stop some moron from killing himself. Particularly when he is going to do it anyway.

An accurate read of the constitution would show there is no federal authority in this area. States could outlaw drugs if their constitution allows but the only place the federal government might have a legitimate role here would be to outlaw the importation of drugs.

The FDA is another example. Where is it? It probably kills more people by denying access to drugs than it saves. Remember Vioxx? Billions wasted and they still let crap through.

NEA, FAA, DOT, SSA, DEA, FEC, Dept of Ed, Cafe Standards; Where are these alphabet soup ingredients listed in the constitution?

Once you get beyond DoD are the rest even remotely enumerated?

As soon as you even talk of legalizing drugs you are generally labeled a wacky libertarian. Is the drug war working? Are criminals being kept off the streets? Or is it just another way to justify an UNlimited government&#039;s restriction of liberty in the name of security? Franklin had words for those who would trade liberty for security.

Are you more secure with armed gangs pushing drugs and vying for territory than you would be with a couple of dope smoking losers getting high down the street? Aren&#039;t the dope smoking losers STILL getting high down the street?

If the states handled the &quot;drug war&quot; it would allow for different approaches some of which might actually reduce the number of users. Frankly I don&#039;t care much about reducing users. If someone wants to waste their life in a bottle or a needle it only becomes my business when they commit an actual criminal act to do it. Toss those guys in prison, problem solved.


&lt;b&gt;Tenther&lt;/b&gt; really is the answer.

Instead of show me the money, so me the enumerated power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it is true that a lot of conservatives have blinders when it comes to particular issues.</p>
<p>Whatever the federal law might be, hold it up to the constitution, if it isn&#8217;t in there then let it be a state issue or a non issue.</p>
<p>The drug laws are a perfect example. When the progressives wanted to outlaw alcohol they recognized a need for an amendment but when it came to drugs like cocaine, heroin or pot they ignored the constitution. The sad thing is now most &#8220;conservatives&#8221; totally support the drug war even though it is a progressive socialist invention. It causes far more crime than it will ever prevent. Alcohol prohibition did the same and they had the good sense to repeal it.</p>
<p>And NO I don&#8217;t use any of them. I just don&#8217;t want to sacrifice my liberty trying to stop some moron from killing himself. Particularly when he is going to do it anyway.</p>
<p>An accurate read of the constitution would show there is no federal authority in this area. States could outlaw drugs if their constitution allows but the only place the federal government might have a legitimate role here would be to outlaw the importation of drugs.</p>
<p>The FDA is another example. Where is it? It probably kills more people by denying access to drugs than it saves. Remember Vioxx? Billions wasted and they still let crap through.</p>
<p>NEA, FAA, DOT, SSA, DEA, FEC, Dept of Ed, Cafe Standards; Where are these alphabet soup ingredients listed in the constitution?</p>
<p>Once you get beyond DoD are the rest even remotely enumerated?</p>
<p>As soon as you even talk of legalizing drugs you are generally labeled a wacky libertarian. Is the drug war working? Are criminals being kept off the streets? Or is it just another way to justify an UNlimited government&#8217;s restriction of liberty in the name of security? Franklin had words for those who would trade liberty for security.</p>
<p>Are you more secure with armed gangs pushing drugs and vying for territory than you would be with a couple of dope smoking losers getting high down the street? Aren&#8217;t the dope smoking losers STILL getting high down the street?</p>
<p>If the states handled the &#8220;drug war&#8221; it would allow for different approaches some of which might actually reduce the number of users. Frankly I don&#8217;t care much about reducing users. If someone wants to waste their life in a bottle or a needle it only becomes my business when they commit an actual criminal act to do it. Toss those guys in prison, problem solved.</p>
<p><b>Tenther</b> really is the answer.</p>
<p>Instead of show me the money, so me the enumerated power.</p>
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		<title>By: 6eorge Jetson</title>
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		<dc:creator>6eorge Jetson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>on the &lt;font&gt;One-&lt;/font&gt;Zero&#8482; economic team.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on the <font>One-</font>Zero&trade; economic team.</p>
<p><img src="http://tlu51g.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pikS5bbXiKChZ65MmqVJJzke6o7dNgMeuu2E67W8pM7iPiQlLCx9BKBIQ6wiAVY3Ui5Kw7Ho12YECAXF6v-R4Hg/ItsATen.jpg" width="444" /></p>
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		<title>By: Richard Mullins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Mullins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 01:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI, we do here but we don&#039;t like the Full bore Libertarians that are nuts.2/3rds of Libertarianism is fine, it&#039;s the 1/3 that&#039;s crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, we do here but we don&#8217;t like the Full bore Libertarians that are nuts.2/3rds of Libertarianism is fine, it&#8217;s the 1/3 that&#8217;s crap.</p>
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		<title>By: nilram</title>
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		<dc:creator>nilram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 01:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;... or to the Federal Government as it sees fit.&quot;  See you just misread it. 

And um pay no attention to that pig with the bucket of paint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; or to the Federal Government as it sees fit.&#8221;  See you just misread it. </p>
<p>And um pay no attention to that pig with the bucket of paint.</p>
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		<title>By: JadedByPolitics</title>
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		<dc:creator>JadedByPolitics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tenther it is sir!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tenther it is sir!</p>
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		<title>By: seandparnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>seandparnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you follow the campaign finance &quot;reform&quot; issue, you&#039;ll notice that the First Amendment isn&#039;t exactly a high priority for them either.

Sean Parnell
President
Center for Competitive Politics
http://www.campaignfreedom.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you follow the campaign finance &#8220;reform&#8221; issue, you&#8217;ll notice that the First Amendment isn&#8217;t exactly a high priority for them either.</p>
<p>Sean Parnell<br />
President<br />
Center for Competitive Politics<br />
http://www.campaignfreedom.org</p>
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		<title>By: jeffscottshow</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeffscottshow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too many conservatives don&#039;t.  Especially note the First Amendment.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too many conservatives don&#8217;t.  Especially note the First Amendment.</p>
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