According to Charlie Cook, at least: he calls the players in the current three-way low intensity conflict in the Democratic party “Loyal Obamists,” “Purists,” and “Skeptics” (I call them “Establishment Democrats,” “Progressive Base,” and “Ordinary, Decent Democrats”). To summarize Cook, the Loyal Obamists think that the economy will dictate the 2010 election results anyway, so they might as well protect their leader’s reputation by passing something on health care; the Purists think that the only way to ensure victory in 2010 is to go hard Left, stay there, and accept no substitutes; and the Skeptics are looking around nervously, because they’re pretty sure that they didn’t sign up for New Deal 2.0, particularly since the first two groups seem determined to do in months the sort of thing that took FDR years. What’s interesting here is the attitudes towards the economy: the first group essentially think that it’s ultimately beyond their control, the second thinks that it’s a mess because it’s not under their control, and the third thinks that while important, it’s not as important as the rather hostile populist reaction to government expansion that the first two groups are both pushing.
If you’re wondering how you maintain a coherent party strategy and Congressional majority under these circumstances, don’t worry about it: so does Charlie Cook. Addressing the willingness of the Loyal Obamists to sacrifice a few Congressman for the sake of their party leader’s reputation (the Purists are likewise more than happy to do this, too), Cook notes:
…the Loyalist notion that a dozen or so Blue Dogs might be expendable ignores the fact that a political environment that culls the Democratic herd in the House would very likely cost Democrats two to four senators, people whose votes are anything but expendable. Right now, seven Democratic Senate seats are vulnerable — eight if GOP Rep. Michael Castle runs for the open seat in Delaware. It is not hard to envision Democrats going 0 for 5 among the vulnerable Republican-held open seats (in Kentucky, Missouri, New Hampshire, Ohio, and Texas) and also not ousting any Republican incumbents. Another complicating factor for Democrats is that although Purple America holds some residual goodwill toward Obama, it has none for the Democratic Congress. When the institution is held in very low regard, plenty of well-liked and well-respected members of the majority party can simply get sucked down by the undertow. That happened to Republicans in 2006 and Democrats in 1994.
That it did, that it did. Not that the non-Skeptics in the Democratic party want to actually hear that; one thing that unites the two factions is their shared dismissal of the ever-more-organized opposition to their government policies. Both groups assume that a better economy will get rid of that opposition, which is in my opinion confusing trigger with cause…
Moe Lane
Crossposted to Moe Lane.
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A Better Economy Will Get Rid Of the Opposition???
Ausonius (Diary) Wednesday, September 16th at 11:17AM EST (link)Quote:
“Loyal Obamists,” “Purists,” and “Skeptics” (I call them “Establishment Democrats,” “Progressive Base,” and “Ordinary, Decent Democrats”)
That last part does not seem possible!
And they are in fantasy-land about an improving economy eliminating opposition!
The economy – by definition of everything done against it by NObama’s War On Business – cannot improve, or at least not improve much to offset 10% unemployment.
Practically all financial predictions are talking about a second-dip recession, long-term Japanese-style or Cartesian stagflation, or even more severe things like hyper-inflation and a Weimar-style meltdown, where a completely new currency will have to replace the dollar.
Ausonius: 310-395 A.D. Teacher, Poet, Consul, General, Farmer.
Personal Tutor to the future St. Paulinus of Nola and to young Gratian, heir to the throne during the turbulent final years of the Western Roman Empire. When his former student Gratian was assassinated, Ausonius threw up his hands and retired to his farm in Gaul. Rome was captured by barbarians 14 years after his death.
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Charlie Cook doesn't know everything
clintonformccain Wednesday, September 16th at 11:41AM EST (link)His analysis is quite simplistic and overlooks the lasting anger among centrist Democrats and the majority of Democrats who voted for Senator Clinton in the 2008 primaries. There’s a lot of anger about the way women were treated (both Clinton and Palin). There’s a lot of anger among lifelong Democrats over being called racists. There’s a lot of frustration that the party was hijacked.
For example, at a recent meet n’ greet event for Dem. Senate candidate Martha Coakley in Massachusetts, there was discussion of her endorsement of Clinton and her vote for Clinton on the first ballot at the convention. Remember, Clinton won Massachusetts decisively despite the endorsements of Gov. Patrick, the do-nothing Gigolo John Kerry, and Ted Kennedy.
Most Democrats fell into line for the 2008 election, but don’t think the resentment isn’t still a factor going forward.
The Gaul of It All*
minncon (Diary) Wednesday, September 16th at 12:21PM EST (link)*likewise, a classical reference.
“When I was crossing the border into Canada, they asked if I had any firearms with me. I said, “Well, what do you need?” -Steven Wright
Cook forgot "my" demographic - 18-25
itsallverbatim (Diary) Wednesday, September 16th at 9:04PM EST (link)Which is neither Republican or Democratic. They’re not partial to either and only pounce when there is a candidate that interests them.
This is bad for the Dems for two reasons:
- if they don’t run O-blow-me in 2012, independents and
“my” demographic WILL NOT FOR THEM. It’s not the Messiah. No excitement. Epic fail.
- If O-blow-me seeks re-election on 2012 (and his ego dictates he will) he’s going to have a lot of explaining to do. And “my” demographic only voted for him for five reasons, forget what you heard:
1) He’s wasn’t Bush
2) He was edgy and cool and a grafitti artist designed his posters
3) He was gonna end the ‘wars’
4) He was gonna give them ‘free’ health-care
5) He had a brilliant marketing campaign
If we’re still in A-stan, P-stan & Iraq/Kurdistan and there’s not public option, he’s screwed with “my” demographic already.
Not to mention he’ll be fighting himself, explaining lies and promises and endlessly campaigning. We young people don’t like overexpousure. There’s a word for it. Ah, yes: Media Whore.
(Full disclosure: I’m a biracial, Republican veteran and DoD contractor who grew up in Boston, Maine and Southern California. I know “my” electorate)