Then Mr. Obama should lead the way and communicate with a different tone and intent. However each opportunity he has to teach us how to communicate more civily, he proceeds to add to the coarse tone. He is the single biggest source of the current tone. Maybe he should think about how he can change himself to change that coarse tone.

evil chimp, Bushitler, Cheneyburton, rethuglicans, war crimes etc had nothing to do with a coarsening of the culture. Attacking Palin’s children had nothing to do with it either.

Obviously, Obama had his ears plugged for the last 6 years.

But maybe if he tried to stop lying, it would be better for him.

organizing the country in your own self-interest.

Once you get outside of your “community” president Obama, you will discover that not everyone agrees with your point of view or your attitude.

I have been, as the song says: “Slandered, libeled…heard words I never heard in the Bible!” just for having the audacity to ask a Congress Critter to, gasp, READ the Bill they were gonna vote on!

I attended two Tea Parties and was labeled a Nazi, Redneck…well, you know the drill.

“Coarsening”???? Of Course!

Regarding the public dialogue, he never heard this in Rev Wright’s church…. Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.

They were busy damning AmeriKK….

Mr. President… Suck it up

attending tea parties. His spokesman called them the mob and his own political web site referred to anyone who disagrees with him as Right-wing terrorists. If there is a “coarsening of political discourse” then Barry 0 is leading the way.

I hope all this continues… especially the Joe WIlson non-sense…. Bring him up for Censure… fine by me… drag it out so the discussion continues and we can FINALLY, even if it is only a handful of folks per Congressional District at a time, awaken folks … let morons like <a href=”Dealing with our Frustration with the Politically Brain-dead“>Bill Maher infer Wilson is a Racist for calling a LIAR out on being a LIAR just because the LIAR happens to be Black and the person with the Facts/Truth on his side White…. Otherwise they’d be able to defend Obama rather than have to go to the same-ole same-ole BS of Race-baiting. By all means KEEP IT UP – we can and will discuss THE FACTS that surround those involved and for those finally starting to pay attention you know you (Democrats) will be on the losing end of it!!!

So, shaddup!

And 2) The Republicans tried to call you since April to reconcile the issues on Health Care Reform.

And 3) You never bothered to call us.

This “coarsening” of this debate is infuriating!

what his baseline is. It sure as hell isn’t any time during the Bush administration.

It also helps to know something about history. John Adams was accused by Jefferson’s camp of having a “hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.” Jefferson, in turn was described as “a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father.”

I have to admit, though, that today’s political attacks lack a certain rhetorical elegance compared to those of the past.

“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

Let’s be honest here. He’s not upset that the “public dialogue is coarsening, he’s upset that someone is using his own rules against him — successfully.

-Bri

All you really need to know about Barack Obama’s presidency can be found in the Wikipedia entry for P.T. Barnum.

Barack Obama, The President of the United States

“But I don’t want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking. I want them to get out of the way so we can clean up the mess. I don’t mind cleaning up after them, but don’t do a lot of talking.”

Campaign rally for Creigh Deeds, at the Hilton McLean Tysons Corner in McLean VA on August 7, 2009.

http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-dont-want-the-folks-who-created-the-mess-to-do-a-lot-of-talking/

I have to hand it to Obama. He has smug liberal intellectoid down.

He knows there is a rift between Republicans who value Order and those who value Liberty. The sneaky part is that we’re all in both camps. Conservatives (in this sense) reject calling a liar a liar if it will hurt someone’s feelings or cause a ruckus. The libertarians (in this sense) think you should call out a lie before it has a chance to take root.

For example.

On a local Tea Party website, there have been some really really Liberals trying to get their propaganda out. I asked if this person was being paid by ACORN or the SEIU, this was Steves response-

Steve Says:

September 12, 2009 at 12:47 pm | Reply
Sandy – You’re really paranoid aren’t you? Is it so unimaginable to you that free thinkers and actors still exist in this country? That not all of us need the support of a herd of like-minded thinkers to openly express our views and opinions?
I come here and post because I think the greatest threat to our country is ignorance and dishonesty and this site (and many more like it) is a hotbed of both. No one asked me to, no one pays me to, and as long as it is a free country I will continue to do it whenever the feeling moves me. While I voted for Perriello (thank God we finally got rid of that imbecile Goode), that is the extent of my relationship with him or it organization. As for ACORN, I have only the vaguest of notions of what it is/does (though I am well aware that you think they constitute a sign of the end of days). And I don’t even know what SEIU stands for. I tell you these tidbits fully expecting you to respond that this simply goes to show the extent and effectiveness of leftist, liberal “indoctrination” and to let you know that I am unafraid of your paranoia and your hopelessly circular and unfounded reasoning.

Of course, the keeper of this site has the right to limit who can and cannot exercise their right to freedom of speech in this forum, but that would seem too blatantly hypocritical even for the self-appointed defenders of freedom to try. Though given that hypocrisy is a such a strong suit of your movement I’m sure you are aleady working on ways to do just that.

Let me be perfectly clear. You and those you “pal around with” have no monopoly on what is and what is not American and you should be ashamed and embarrassed by the enormous hypocrisy and presumption that you do. You and your ilk have slandered our President and his office since the day he was justly elected to it. Nay, you and your ilk have slandered him personally since the moment it became apparent that he was a force of intelligence, integrity, and moral character of the highest order and your lame-ass candidates didn’t stand a snowball’s chance in Hell against him. And rather than engage him or the opposition more broadly in terms of sound, intelligent, reasoned debate you have resorted to smear and scare tactics (unconsciously on your part I’m sure because you clearly don’t have the capacity for the slightest amount of self-reflection to understand what you are really doing, though your unthinking and constant repetition of this clap-trap feeds right in to those more powerful than you for whom it is a very deliberate strategy). Your gang’s charges of “terrorist,” “non-patriot” (remember the flag pin flap?), “Muslim,” “anti-white,” “Nazi,” “Socialist,” “Communist,” “not an American,” “illegally holding office of President,” etc., etc., etc., are nothing more that simplistic ways of saying that Barack Hussein Obama “is not one of us,” that he is illegitimate, and somehow less legitimate than the rest of “us” and therefore that nether he nor his motives should be trusted or respected. It is precisely the same type of argument that for hundreds of years was used to justify race-based slavery (it is okay so long as you believe that those enslaved are less than human, “less than us”) and more than half a century to prop up racist segregationist and discrimantory policy. The fact of the matter is that Barack Hussein Obama is as much an American as you or I and, furthermore, the social and political policies that his administration is pursuing are woven into the very fiber, history, and philosophy of our great nation, and indeed the roots of this so-called “liberalism” go far deeper than that. “Love thy neighbor” and “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” are both tenents grounded in notions of “social justice.”

If you are so naive and uneducated to believe that those who hold political, social, and/or religious views different to yours should leave America for being “unAmerican” than you truly are a threat to the fundamental principals upon which our country was founded and you can be assured that I will fight this threat and the spread of such ignorance until my last breath. Just to leave you with a little more “propaganda,” another sip of the so-called Kool-Aid you think I drinking, here’s a passage from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson that supports my contention that notions of “social justice” are not ideas dreamed up by “outsiders” trying to rob “true Americans” of their imagined “Constitutionally guaranteed rights:”

Excerpt from a letter from Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, France, October 28, 1785. [Please note that he is writing conditions iin France and comparing them to the newly born United States. And please read all the way to the last sentence]:

“As soon as I had got clear of the town I fell in with a poor woman walking at the same rate with myself and going the same course. Wishing to know the condition of the laboring poor I entered into conversation with her, which I began by enquiries for the path which would lead me into the mountain: and thence proceeded to enquiries into her vocation, condition and circumstances. She told me she was a day laborer at 8 sous or 4d. sterling the day: that she had two children to maintain, and to pay a rent of 30 livres for her house (which would consume the hire of 75 days), that often she could get no employment and of course was without bread. As we had walked together near a mile and she had so far served me as a guide, I gave her, on parting, 24 sous. She burst into tears of a gratitude which could perceive was unfeigned because she was unable to utter a word. She had probably never before received so great an aid. This little attendrissement, with the solitude of my walk, led me into a train of reflections on that unequal division of property which occasions the numberless instances of wretchedness which I had observed in this country and is to be observed all over Europe.
The property of this country is absolutely concentred in a very few hands, having revenues of from half a million of guineas a year downwards. These employ the flower of the country as servants, some of them having as many as 200 domestics, not laboring. They employ also a great number of manufacturers and tradesmen, and lastly the class of laboring husbandmen. But after all there comes the most numerous of all classes, that is, the poor who cannot find work. I asked myself what could be the reason so many should be permitted to beg who are willing to work, in a country where there is a very considerable proportion of uncultivated lands? These lands are undisturbed only for the sake of game. It should seem then that it must be because of the enormous wealth of the proprietors which places them above attention to the increase of their revenues by permitting these lands to be labored. I am conscious that an equal division of property is impracticable, but the consequences of this enormous inequality producing so much misery to the bulk of mankind, legislators cannot invent too many devices for subdividing property, only taking care to let their subdivisions go hand in hand with the natural affections of the human mind. The descent of property of every kind therefore to all the children, or to all the brothers and sisters, or other relations in equal degree, is a politic measure and a practicable one. Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions or property in geometrical progression as they rise.”

Of course, Jefferson was just another “East Coast liberal.” You’re damn right he was. We’ve been around for a while and we’re not going anywhere, and especially not at the suggestion of people like you.

Steve

Nice, Huh?

From the Hawaii Islands, to the back rooms of the WH, the coarsening of the culture comes completely courtesy of the degenerate, Barack H. Obama.
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