It could be retaliation but not self defense. Neither version of events renders it acceptable or normal to BITE OFF SOMEONE’S FINGER.

Personally I think it’s much more likely that the move on.org guy got in the old man’s face and the old man tried to push him away. If he had hit the guy presumably his hand would be in a fist and moving quickly.

Also, intuitively, it just seems much more likely that the person who was capable of biting off another person’s finger, spitting it on the ground & walking away is much more likely to be the aggressor.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sgtkey0811/3885426369/sizes/o/in/set-72157621720095249/

Courtesy photo / Ventura County Sheriff’s Department — This image provided by the Ventura County Sheriff’s Department shows the beginning of an altercation between William Rice, at right in the khaki shirt and olive shorts, and an unidentified man wearing black, who authorities say bit off Rice’s little finger. The sheriff’s department is seeking the public’s help in identifying the man in black at far right, by calling the investigations bureau at (805)494-8201.

http://www.venturacountystar.com/photos/2009/sep/03/74303/

We know what your doing and we will make you scratch and crawl for every little piece of liberty you want to steal from us. We will use your rules against you. We will expose you for what you are. And we will use the one thing you despise the most, THE TRUTH ! And you know as well as we do, the truth is with us!

Sean Parnell
President
Center for Competitive Politics
http://www.campaignfreedom.org

Reasons to kill KILL BILLl are too many to enumerate, among others, here is one biggie: your healthcare will be controlled by the union thugs!

If you think them biting off 1 finger is bad, wait till the union thugs are placed in the KILL BILL system in all positions, big and small! You can wait and wait and die while they are laughing and smoking at your expenses on the other side of the phone line! I have witnessed first hand the aggressive behaviour of the moveon.org thugs – one guy placed himself between an older lady and senator Lautenberg’s rep when she was talking to the rep, nudging backward to push her out of the way! All unprovoked! Had we protested loudly (we only mumbled a little) he just might have attacked us! I guess that is obozo’s teaching: in their face!

Do you want that? NO? Then kill the KILL BILL as if your lives depend on it – your lives do depnend on it being KILLED!

Excerpts from National right to work cmte:

The biggest proponents of Obama’s health care overhaul legislation — the union bosses – are now trying to exploit the death of their longtime ally Teddy Kennedy to force a vote as soon as possible.

Of course, we already know WHY Big Labor likes the bill so much. The “Obamacare” legislation is absolutely chock-full of hidden giveaways to union militants. A handful of (union-label) bureaucrats would be making health care decisions for all of us . . .
It’s no wonder union thugs have been beating up Americans at town hall meetings – no one would benefit from this federal powergrab more than Big Labor.

“Obamacare” will give Big Labor control of health care (over 16% of the entire economy) forcing hundreds of thousands of Americans to pay billions into union treasuries.

The cost of health care would REALLY skyrocket when Big Labor bigwigs pad payrolls with more and more layers of support staff and medical bureaucracy — all at taxpayer expense.

And there would be special privileges for union-run insurance plans.

These are just a few of the dangerous elements of the health care bills being debated in Congress, and what will be the law of the land in a few short weeks if you and I don’t act today.

And the truth is, now with Big Labor added to the mix, it could be far WORSE than anyone is letting on.

The truth is, should Big Labor’s “Obamacare” Bill pass, it would:

*** Force hundreds of thousands of doctors, surgeons, nurses — and other medical professionals — under Big Labor’s thumb;

*** Heavily tax small businesses’ health care plans, while exempting Big Labor from these same taxes, corralling even more workers into forced unionism;

*** Virtually hand Big Labor direct access to taxpayer dollars as the medical boards that direct government funding will be stacked with unelected Big Labor bureaucrats.

That’s why it’s vital you act TODAY:-

Contact Snowe and Collins (make sure they don’t vote yes)!
Write/call Blue-dogs (emphasize NO PUBLIC OPTION)!
Go to townhall meetings (ASK TOUGH QUESTIONS)!
Join teapartyexpress bus or Amercan Liberty Tour
Go to tea parties (teapartypatriots has info).
Spread the words !
Talk to seniors.
etc. etc.

9/11 Patriot Day

The thugs on the left call this ‘Patriot Day’ – September 11th. We need to counter theirs with our own continuous CALLS to congress from 9/8 to 9/11!
The Astroturf(TM) -Organizer-in-Chief,Barack Obama, and his puppet master David Axelrod, are organizing a nationwide Senate call-in on that day. One dead Kennedy wasn’t enough, now Obama is using the nearly 3000 Americans who died on 9/11 to shamelessly promote his agenda. This effort is also no doubt timed to lessen the impact of the March on Washington scheduled for the very next day.

The lemmings will be calling to urge passage of the so-called “Public Option”, and will be claiming that “75% of Americans support it”. For a first-hand look at the kind of moronic drivel that appears on the President’s, er, usurper’s personal website these days,follow this link:

http://my.barackobama.com/page/event/detail/healthcareorganizingevent/gpk4cj

If the Democrats get a pass on doing anything they first accuse us of doing, in this case manufacturing protest crowds by throwing around cash, then they can exploit that.

Since I don’t want to “threadjack” I won’t continue this discussion here or respond to any of the posts below, but would be happy to do so offline – sparnell [at] campaignfreedom.org.

Sean Parnell
President
Center for Competitive Politics
http://www.campaignfreedom.org