Howard Dean: No tort reform for fear of trial lawyers.


You know, this admission may have justified the entire town hall thing, right there:

Here’s the quote:

“This is the answer from a doctor and a politician. Here’s why tort reform is not in the bill. When you go to pass a really enormous bill like that, the more stuff you put in it, the more enemies you make, right? And the reason that tort reform is not in the bill is because the people who wrote it did not want to take on the trial lawyers in addition to everyone else they were taking on. And that is the plain and simple truth.”

Not that Dean’s being completely truthful: the various health care rationing bills share a distressing lack of taking anybody on. And he neglected to mention that the problem wasn’t so much ‘taking on’ the trial lawyers as it was ‘losing the money‘ from them. But this is still more truth than we’ve grown accustomed to from a Democratic politician: no doubt one reason that they packed Dean off to American Samoa right after the election.

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Wait

orfannkyl (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 12:45PM EST (link)

Wasn’t Howard Dean a Doctor? Or did he just play one on TV?

Why

mirror61 Friday, August 28th at 9:42AM EST (link)

was Dean even there, nobody elected him.

 
 

The plain & simple truth

izoneguy (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 12:47PM EST (link)

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.

Let's see the Dean scream clip

illinois (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 12:20AM EST (link)

How about posting that raving idiot screaming……..that was classic and fits in nicely with his latest gem!

 
 

Hahahahahaha!!!!

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 12:53PM EST (link)

Nice to see Howard Dean admit the astoundingly obvious.

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I enjoyed watching Jim Moran and Howard Dean...

porterjervis Thursday, August 27th at 12:56PM EST (link)

… having their arses handed to them at the town meeting in Reston, VA

When Moran screeched that those that voiced their opinions were not from the 8th district, I wondered how he knew? Besides, since when has a town hall meeting been exclusively for constituents?

If he’s so sensitive he should have had his meeting at an old folks home that’s also a gated community like that coward Gerry Connolly.

Porter Jervis
Springfield, VA USA

If the meeting were strictly for district constituents

olsmithie (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 1:17PM EST (link)

I guess the plants and union thugs would not be able to attend …..

Regards

Comebacks to the "you're not from my district" ploy

ColdWarrior (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 3:27PM EST (link)

Well, Mr. Congresscritter, it doesn’t make any difference whether I’m from your district or not — you are in the federal legislature and the proposed legislation we are discussing affects all Americans, not just those in your district.
Secondly, undoubtedly you take campaign contributions from individuals and interest groups from outside the district.
So, if you can tell me and everyone here that the legislation we’re discussing affects only the people residing in your district and that you’ve taken no campaign contributions from any person or interest group from outside your district, then you might have an argument that I have no interest in, or right to, ask you any questions that might benefit the American people or your constituents.

So, what is it?

[Loud applause followed by mumbling response from congresscritter.]

So, may I now ask my question?

Thank you.

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That place was PACKED as was the parking lot...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 3:43PM EST (link)

I couldn’t go until after work and I couldn’t find ANYWHERE to park by 5:30 I don’t know what time people starting showing up but is was PACKED. I am thrilled that those from Reston were there to say their piece. Reston is a liberal area of wealthy people with smaller area’s of poorer people. I was thrilled to see the video of the BOO’s at Howard Dean. It just satisfies for me the feeling I have that this is so much bigger then the D’s think it is. If Reston, VA a liberal haven is turning out for a townhall to show their displeasure then I have to believe this bill is DONE!

 

Thanks, Cold Warrior. nt

Xasteius (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 4:09PM EST (link)

Don’t leave the party, hijack it back!

The only poll that counts is the one at the ballot box.

I don’t want to be Reagan. I want to be a Chance/Soros hybrid.

 
 

Why

mirror61 Friday, August 28th at 9:41AM EST (link)

was Dean even there, he is not elected.

 
 
 

Honesty

Toneman Thursday, August 27th at 1:43PM EST (link)

I absolutely appreciated Dean’s answer. As Moe said, while not entirely truthful, it’s the most honest answer I’ve ever heard from a Democrat on the National stage. Sadly, they know that if they would always be this honest, we would trounce them in every election.

As for outsiders at our town hall, everyone sitting in my vicinity was definitely from the 8th district. I particularly enjoyed when Moran had to apologize to an atendee whose identity he questioned. The gentleman threw his Driver’s license at Moran in disgust – a pretty good move.

 

Honesty

Toneman Thursday, August 27th at 1:43PM EST (link)

I absolutely appreciated Dean’s answer. As Moe said, while not entirely truthful, it’s the most honest answer I’ve ever heard from a Democrat on the National stage. Sadly, they know that if they would always be this honest, we would trounce them in every election.

As for outsiders at our town hall, everyone sitting in my vicinity was definitely from the 8th district. I particularly enjoyed when Moran had to apologize to an atendee whose identity he questioned. The gentleman threw his Driver’s license at Moran in disgust – a pretty good move.

 

Well, I think of this as another distraction, so to speak.

Steph C (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 2:16PM EST (link)

Tort reform will be moot if this legislation passes. The health care bill is written with one purpose in mind: to push everybody into government dependence cradle to grave. Why include tort reform into legislation designed to take over the entire industry?

So, they got the trial lawyers without specifically addressing them or tort reform. How many of those lawyers are going to go up against the federal government in the future?

Ain’t it lovely how their nihilistic tendencies bite them in the butt even when they think they’re home free?

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I disagree

illinoisconservative (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 4:03PM EST (link)

Without tort reform, physicians are being left high and dry.

They will be forced to take the pittance the government will pay them for their services. But, without any of the real paying patients (i.e those who have private insurance) to make up for the Medicare level reimbursements, they will be left holding the bag.. paying higher and higher malpractice premiums with smaller and smaller incomes.

It’s not the government that lawyers will be going up against. The government is leaving physicians in private practice and just as vulnerable to the ambulance chasers as they are now.

And doctors are all gung ho for this plan why again??? Or is that another bit ‘o propaganda spewed out by our White House?

Yes, they are leaving doctors in private practice

Steph C (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 4:24PM EST (link)

high and dry but not in the way you think. Doctors in private practice will have their hands so tied as to what they can and can’t do that they’ll be able to do nothing independently of the government. If they “play ball” with the government then they’ll be under its protection, too.

If they don’t go along with the government’s plans for them, they won’t be in practice long.

I don’t know how many doctors are on board with the W.H. It’s one of those things that can be said and taken at face value because there’s little likelihood of it being challenged soon enough to have much effect.

I do know the doctor for whom my daughter works will not continue providing health insurance for her and the other medical personnel at his clinics because he won’t be able to afford it.

I also know that Cooper insulted a group of them here in Nashville when he spoke to a medical group assembled for his benefit, that’s another story: http://blogs.nashvillescene.com/pitw/2009/08/nashville_doctors_outraged_ove.php

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Dr's are NOT for this legislation

illinois (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 12:25AM EST (link)

Only a small percentage of dr’s are in AMA and many quit after they knuckled to the Obama thugs. Here’s some websites of dr groups who are against Obamacare:

http://theasmd.org/
http://www.aapsonline.org/

 
 
 

Dean probably plagiarized that

blooch Thursday, August 27th at 2:18PM EST (link)

from Biden.

“Lieutenant Dike wasn’t a bad leader because he made bad decisions. He was a bad leader because he made no decisions.”

 

Palin has been the only one out there

cclive Thursday, August 27th at 2:22PM EST (link)

trying to get people talking about Tort Reform, her Facebook post was good. How come no one else is out there?

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=120607013434

Rick Perry has talked about tort refrom....

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 2:46PM EST (link)

<a href=”http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/OpEd-Contributor/Tort-reform-must-be-part-of-health-care-reform-8096175.html”see here

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

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Aaron Gardner (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 2:47PM EST (link)

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


Um...Do you recall Neil's warning?

cclive Thursday, August 27th at 2:56PM EST (link)

We’re not supposed to talk.

Don't worry I got a hall pass. nt

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 3:15PM EST (link)

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


Good link

cclive Thursday, August 27th at 3:20PM EST (link)

He should get out more and stump about their successes

 
 

Yeah you guys get a reprieve..

Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 3:36PM EST (link)

…if you can stay nice.

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Ann Coulter is pushing tort reform big time too

Andy W. Thursday, August 27th at 2:59PM EST (link)

As well as other wise and logical reforms to health insurance law regarding state borders and required coverages.

Keep up the good work Sam Graves (R, MO-6)

 

Two points to this

The_Gadfly (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 4:40PM EST (link)

First, most people still face the MSM media filter. So it might not be that advocates aren’t talking about it, just that the media don’t report on it.

Second, this is Democrat super-majority we are taking on. They are pretty much owned lock stock and barrel by the trial lawyers. Even more so than the unions or ACORN. So to some extent it really doesn’t matter how effective tort reform would be, it is effectively off the table. Which is part of why Dean’s remark is so revealing. It’s one thing for those of us on the right to know that, it’s a whole other ball of wax for someone on their side to admit it.

Okay, three points. I’ve also recently started hearing and seeing a meme about “lots of states have tried tort reform and it hasn’t lowered premiums, the only thing that has happened is maimed and disabled people have been restricted to $250,000 in damages to deal with their continuing medical problems.” So the radical left is already laying the groundwork for a new set of Known Facts(tm) that can’t be questioned. First time was on a talk program up near Philly this past weekend, the other place was on a moderate blog Moe Hot Linked to the other day.

 
 

Lawyers #1 Contributor to Dems

DADvocate Thursday, August 27th at 2:41PM EST (link)

If you check opensecrets.org, you’ll find lawyers/law firms give more money to the Dems than any other industry/group. $761,795,394 in the past 10 years.

 

Can we get Dean to keep talking

texas214 (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 2:49PM EST (link)

So far;
1) Admitted the public option is to get to single payer.
2) Admitted that there “by default would be rationing”.
3) and now admits that they didn’t want to take on lawyers.

The more he talks, the more we learn; his honesty is refreshing in the sense he only makes the job of the GOP easier.

If he’s booked on NBC, ABC, CBS MSNBC, CNBC, CNN, and Fox we win.

He's turning into another Biden

Karina (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 6:27AM EST (link)

They’ll be locking him in a closet next to good ole Joe very very soon.

 
 

Tort reform in Texas has the effect

izoneguy (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 2:56PM EST (link)

Tort reform in Texas has the effect of more doctors and other medical personnel moving here. While insurance rates for consumers won’t drastically be cut (yet), tort reform is a strong incentive for doctors to relocate to Texas. The Texas medical board is keeping a close eye on the new ones moving in.

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.

so basicly...

dave_in_atl (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 3:09PM EST (link)

States rights unless its something I want… Never understood why some Republicans want to push tort reform at the federal level when it has been shown to be doable at the state level (Texas)…. You let the feds handle it and they will just screw it up.

 

Are you saying that consumer insurance rates

cclive Thursday, August 27th at 3:18PM EST (link)

haven’t dropped? When did their Tort Reform get implemented?

Tort Reform Spurs Economic Growth; Aids Access to Healthcare

izoneguy (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 8:02PM EST (link)

TEXAS: Tort Reform Spurs Economic Growth; Aids Access to Healthcare

http://www.atra.org/wrap/files.cgi/7964_howworks.html

In 2003, the Texas state Legislature passed H.B. 4 to further reform the state’s civil justice system. The bill addressed issues such as: limits on noneconomic damages; product liability reform; punitive damages; medical liability reform joint and several liability; and class action reform. Voters also approved a constitutional amendment, Proposition 12, in 2003, which eliminates potential court challenges to the law that limited noneconomic damages to $750,000. Since the enactment of H.B. 4 and the subsequent passage of Proposition 12, Texas has made great strides in growing its economy and providing jobs and accessible healthcare to its citizens.

Texas: Tort Reform Spurs Economic Growth

In 1995 the Texas Legislature passed a series of bills to reform the state’s civil justice system. These bills addressed: limits on punitive damages, joint and several liability, sanctions for filing frivolous suits, limits on venue shopping and out-of-state filings, modifications to deceptive trade practices and medical malpractice reform.

According to the study, The Impact of Judicial Reforms on Economic Activity in Texas, the total cost of the Texas tort system in 2000 was $15.482 billion. Without reforms, it is estimated that the total cost would have been $25.889 billion. Of the $10.407 billion in total direct savings, approximately $2.777 billion may be attributed to improvements at the national level while $7.630 billion in savings were from reforms in Texas. Of the total savings, $2.542 billion went directly to benefit consumers.

The Perryman Group. The Impact of Judicial Reforms on Economic Activity in Texas Overall Economic Impact on State’s Economy. (August 2000)

Facts to Consider: Benefits to Consumers

It is estimated that reforms enacted in 1995 resulted in savings of $2.542 billion that directly benefits consumers.

$1.796 billion in annual cost savings from reduced inflation ($216 per household)

$7.056 billion in annual total personal growth income ($862 per household)

The net result was a savings of $1,078 per year to the typical Texas household.

The Perryman Group. The Impact of Judicial Reforms on Economic Activity in Texas Overall Economic Impact on State’s Economy. (August 2000)

Tort Reform & The Man In The Arena

http://rickperry.org/blog/tort-reform-man-arena?gclid=CNCupLqFxZwCFRMhnAoduAcLoA

The number of doctors applying to practice medicine in Texas has skyrocketed by 57 percent. In 2008, the Texas Medical Board received 4,023 licensure applications and issued a record 3,621 new licenses.

In all, in just the first five years after reforms passed, 14,498 doctors either returned to practice in Texas or began practicing here for the first time.

And our reforms finally brought critical specialties to underserved areas. The number of obstetricians practicing in rural Texas is up by 27 percent, and 12 counties that previously had no obstetricians now have at least one. The statistics show major gains in fields like orthopedic surgery, pediatrics, neurosurgery and emergency medicine.

The Rio Grande Valley has seen an 18 percent growth in applications to practice medicine, adding about 200 doctors to this critically underserved area.

And what about the money that used to go to defending all those frivolous lawsuits? You can find it in budgets for upgraded equipment, expanded emergency rooms, patient safety programs and improved primary and charity care.

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.

By how much did rates change compared with trends?

nyindy Friday, August 28th at 12:47AM EST (link)

By how much did Texas health insurance rates change compared to national changes? Did rates drop post tort reform or continue growing?

“When a man finds a conclusion agreeable, he accepts it without argument, but when he finds it disagreeable, he will bring against it all the forces of logic and reason.” -Thucydides

That was basically my original question.

cclive Friday, August 28th at 12:18PM EST (link)

Has there been a a decrease in health insurance rates for the consumer/patient? Or perhaps with the influx of doctors, there is more competition and so general medical expenses could drop.

As someone said up thread proving this at the state level would go a long way in arguing for a national level reform.

There was a lengthy article in the New Yorker

nyindy Saturday, August 29th at 11:21AM EST (link)

There was a lengthy article in the New Yorker (yeah, taken with much salt given the source) which claimed that rates didn’t drop. The claim it seemed to make was that the driver for increased health care costs were simply profit motives of doctors and hospitals. While claiming ‘defensive medicine’ against lawsuits gives them cover, it seems that even with minimized law suit threat, the extraneous tests and referals continue.
Here’s the link to the New Yorker story.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/06/01/090601fa_fact_gawande?currentPage=all

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Curious

gnomechumpsky Thursday, August 27th at 3:26PM EST (link)

I was just at a meeting with Congresswoman Betsy Markey this morning in Loveland Colorado where she assured the audience that both tort reform and portability were being added to this bill. Very curious.

Not so curious

illinoisconservative (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 4:19PM EST (link)

apparently Dem Congress critters are just making stuff up now.

Dave Loebsack from Iowa reportedly told his townhall participants that health care premiums will be paid for by the government for businesses with payrolls under $500k… which is a bald-faced lie.. that limit applies only to exemptions.

 

Whenever they say something as stupid as that

The_Gadfly (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 4:44PM EST (link)

ask them which bill and the specific section of the bill where those mandates will be found. The truth is, they haven’t read the bill because most people simply don’t have time to read a 1,000+ page bill.

 
 

Proposed Health Care Bill Doesn't Challenge Doctors Either!

americanmale Thursday, August 27th at 3:36PM EST (link)

Not only does the bill not address lawyers, it doesn’t address the doctors either.

The simple truth is that most doctors fear medical savings accounts. That is because these personal vehicles which will be used to pay doctors directly will in turn lead to a fundamental shift to consumer based medicine.

Doctors fear consumer based medicine because god forbid, a patient with a sore shoulder comes back for the 5th time and says to the doctor….”Hey, my shoulder still hurts…give me back my money”.

Any bill either by democrat or republican needs to take this on as well; especially if we ever want to get to real implementation of Health / Medical Savings Accounts.

 

Dean: One honest comment won't deflect from the Lies

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The Politically Brain-dead are already firmly among the ObamaZombie minions and this tactic, which is all it is, isn’t going to work to fool, deflect, distract, etc, from the basic facts we have all learned despite More HC Townhall Hi-jinks

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explain this to me...

symmetry3 Thursday, August 27th at 6:53PM EST (link)

i’ve never understood why conservatives are always ranting about tort reform. it seems to me we have a western style free market for justice, complete with lone cowboy lawyers.

why would you want to meddle in the free market for justice? how does government intervention in this market possibly fit in with conservative values?

would someone explain this to me?

Naah, symmetry3: we'd rather hear why your side likes trial lawyers...

Moe Lane (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 7:01PM EST (link)

…more than sick people.

Explain why in your next post, why don’t you?

Wha?

symmetry3 Thursday, August 27th at 7:18PM EST (link)

i’m not sure i understand what you are asking. trial lawyers are like any other business, they care about making money, as it should be. if they happen to get some justice for their clients, wonderful for them. but they are trying to make a living, like the rest of us.

i am simply asking a question, stated above. how am i wrong about that? i would like to know.

i spent years raising funds for a pro-business organization on tort reform. i could never understand it (see my question above).

lately, i’ve also been wondering why the gop did nothing about tort reform when they had the government under bush.

i’m asking a question. i am not being disrespectful.

if someone has insights into my (now) two questions, i would appreciate it.

Bzzt! Wrong answer.

Moe Lane (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 7:26PM EST (link)

Of course, as Howard Dean noted above you guys are mostly too scared to admit that the Democratic party essentially prostitutes itself out for attorney money, so I didn’t really expect a *right* answer. Ach, well.

Blam.

Awww, Moe, I'd just gotten started with him! nt

Achance (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 7:28PM EST (link)

In Vino Veritas

I'm selfish sometimes.

Moe Lane (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 7:31PM EST (link)

Not to mention, occasionally capricious as a matter of policy.

 
 
 

That would be former President Bush

Achance (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 7:27PM EST (link)

that you’re referring to as “bush?” And you claim you’re being respectful? You’re simply the basic rude, ignorant troll, or, maybe, you’re a trial lawyer.

In Vino Veritas

 
 
 
 

oh, i see what you're saying...

symmetry3 Thursday, August 27th at 7:23PM EST (link)

because the other (not my) side sees trial lawyers as on the side of sick people, not against sick people. obviously.

now, why do we need government intervention in the free market for justice?

And this is why Reply to This is your friend, folks.

Moe Lane (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 7:29PM EST (link)

If he had used it, he might have survived longer. Unlikely – he wasn’t likely to answer Dean’s own charge, which is why he tried to change the subject so – but there was always the chance.

I’ll never understand why these people will go to the wall for the likes of John Edwards.

 

symmetry3 - take a gander at this

izoneguy (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 7:32PM EST (link)

Cash Bar – How trial lawyers bankroll the Democratic party

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_16_53/ai_76915714/

The conceit of trial lawyers is that they are fighting Goliaths in order to win verdicts to compensate the little guy, but their clients frequently share only the crumbs from their attorneys’ bountiful tables. In one case involving faulty pipes, the lawyers for Alabama’s plaintiffs were awarded $38 million, and those for Tennessee’s plaintiffs got $45 million; all the homeowners got was an 8 percent rebate toward the purchase of new pipes. When a cellular-service provider settled a dispute over billing practices, class members were entitled to $15 vouchers, while their attorneys got $1.25 million. A recent Colorado case over long waits for phone service resulted in a settlement providing an average of $60 for each class member-and $7.2 million for their counsel. In the 1994 settlement of the Bank of Boston case involving escrow accounts, attorneys’ fees actually imposed a net cost on plaintiffs: The lawyers received $8.5 million, and each aggrieved customer’s account was debited by $90 to pay the legal fees.

So where does all this money go? Right back into the system that created it. Peter Angelos, Maryland’s preeminent plaintiffs’ attorney, who is suing for 25 percent of the state’s $4.4 billion share of the tobacco settlement, has filed suits in four states against the wireless industry, alleging that it failed to protect consumers against possible radiation hazards. (Angelos contributed nearly $1 million to national Democratic candidates in 2000.) Mississippi’s Richard Scruggs, whose firm was awarded $1 billion under the tobacco settlement, has filed suits against manufacturers of Ritalin. In June, the Los Angeles Times reported that many lawyer veterans of the tobacco wars are again hooking up with state attorneys general, this time to take on the pharmaceutical industry for allegedly blocking access to cheaper generic drugs.

AND THIS:

Welcome to ‘Tort Hell’ – West Virginia, that is. A ‘doctors crisis’ – doctor shortage in state caused by legal atmosphere

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_16_53/ai_76915715/?tag=content;col1

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.

 

In brief, because the tort system is not an example of a free market

civil truth (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 7:33PM EST (link)

There’s no free market for justice when lawyers write the laws, lawyers alone get to argue the cases in courts, lawyers stack the juries, and lawyers serve as the referees (i.e. judges) – plus lawyers are a regulated industry (i.e. guild) in which entry is artificially restricted. Government is up to its armpits when it comes to the “justice market” tilting the playing field and rigging the playing rules.

What tort reformers are trying to do is to restore equity to the boundary conditions for justice market.

Does this start to make sense?

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Hello RNC...are you paying attention???

SteveLA (Diary) Thursday, August 27th at 7:41PM EST (link)

If this is not a ready made commercial for the 2010 election, then I don’t know what is.

Someone from the RNC ought to be making this statement of the “real facts” by “real Democrats” about ObamaCare into a commercial to p in every the district of every Democratic running for office. If that don’t convince real folks what ObamaCare is really about, shame on sheeppeople.

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cooperscopy (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 11:08AM EST (link)

At least the governor was honest enough to admit the dems are in the trial lawyers back pocket. But, everybody knew that anyway…..http://cooperscopy.blogspot.com/

Ron Victor

 

Maybe this is why there is not tort reform?

changewedontneed Friday, August 28th at 1:17PM EST (link)

from: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Trial-lawyers-seek-return-on-contributions-to-Senate-Democrats-53177542.html
An Examiner analysis of the 15 firms on the National Law Journal’s “2008 Plaintiff’s Hot List” shows that for 2009, their employees have contributed $636,305 to federal politicians and PACs. Only $4,875 of that amount has gone to Republicans, meaning that the nation’s top trial lawyers are giving more than 99 percent Democratic this year. The PAC for the American Association of Justice, the top trial lawyer lobbying group, has been marginally more balanced, giving Democrats a mere 96 percent of its $627,000 in contributions.

With all of the money being donated by the lawyers to the Dems, is it any wonder why there is no tort reform?