Comments on: Hot dogs in public, credit-taking in private: the White House’s search for an Iranian domestic strategy. http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/06/23/hot-dogs-in-public-credit-taking-in-private-the-white-houses-search-for-an-iranian-domestic-strategy/ Fri, 17 Feb 2012 04:23:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: rfpzzzzz http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/06/23/hot-dogs-in-public-credit-taking-in-private-the-white-houses-search-for-an-iranian-domestic-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-17763 rfpzzzzz Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:35:18 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3360#comment-17763 Will Obama call the public beatings and killings torture? He had no trouble calling 30 seconds under water a reason for the US to lose standing as a decent nation. He apologized and criticized us ad nauseum. What will he say about Iran's video history? Will Obama call the public beatings and killings torture? He had no trouble calling 30 seconds under water a reason for the US to lose standing as a decent nation. He apologized and criticized us ad nauseum. What will he say about Iran’s video history?

]]> By: mom2oneson http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/06/23/hot-dogs-in-public-credit-taking-in-private-the-white-houses-search-for-an-iranian-domestic-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-17762 mom2oneson Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:22:10 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3360#comment-17762 he could bring up Iran's history too..they would love that. :) Another thing is, when someone thinks there is someone strong behind them they don't pick on them as much or they find a new target. I wonder if the council would have found a different result if he had said something better. he could bring up Iran’s history too..they would love that. :)

Another thing is, when someone thinks there is someone strong behind them they don’t pick on them as much or they find a new target. I wonder if the council would have found a different result if he had said something better.

]]> By: The_Gadfly http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/06/23/hot-dogs-in-public-credit-taking-in-private-the-white-houses-search-for-an-iranian-domestic-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-17761 The_Gadfly Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:15:30 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3360#comment-17761 to make a speech that could well turn the tide for the activists in Iran. Imagine a speech in which he noted the similarities between what the citizens of Iraq are doing with the actions taken by our founding fathers against a tyrant in an earlier time. Then connecting that with his studies of the Koran and how the fanatics in Iran had abandoned the true meaning of Islam, and that now was the time for the other peaceful adherents of the religion to stand in solidarity with their Muslim brothers in Iran who were being oppressed. Then finally working his way into condemning the cowardice of the tyrants who, like all tyrants before them, attempted to blame "foreign sources" for the troubles they themselves had caused at home. You know there are speech writers out there who could work that outline into something like Reagan's Brandenburg speech. And much as I hate to say it, you know that so long as The Big 0 has a teleprompter in front of him, he could deliver it with the same flair as Reagan would have. That sort of speech might not be the end of the fight in the Iran, but it could be end of any chance the mullahs had of winning. to make a speech that could well turn the tide for the activists in Iran. Imagine a speech in which he noted the similarities between what the citizens of Iraq are doing with the actions taken by our founding fathers against a tyrant in an earlier time. Then connecting that with his studies of the Koran and how the fanatics in Iran had abandoned the true meaning of Islam, and that now was the time for the other peaceful adherents of the religion to stand in solidarity with their Muslim brothers in Iran who were being oppressed. Then finally working his way into condemning the cowardice of the tyrants who, like all tyrants before them, attempted to blame “foreign sources” for the troubles they themselves had caused at home.

You know there are speech writers out there who could work that outline into something like Reagan’s Brandenburg speech. And much as I hate to say it, you know that so long as The Big 0 has a teleprompter in front of him, he could deliver it with the same flair as Reagan would have. That sort of speech might not be the end of the fight in the Iran, but it could be end of any chance the mullahs had of winning.

]]> By: The_Gadfly http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/06/23/hot-dogs-in-public-credit-taking-in-private-the-white-houses-search-for-an-iranian-domestic-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-17760 The_Gadfly Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:07:10 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3360#comment-17760 By a series of unfortunate coincidences, I found myself driving to work around 11:00 this morning, which meant the talk show on at that time was Joe Scarborough. Apparently MSNBC decided that unlike the rest of the weekend newsies, they would not have wall to wall coverage on breaking events in Iran. And Scarborough apparently won the ratings for his time slot this weekend. He and his co-host said while they would have preferred wall-to-wall coverage personally, since editors and producers are paid to air shows that attract people, like it or not they made the right decision. By a series of unfortunate coincidences, I found myself driving to work around 11:00 this morning, which meant the talk show on at that time was Joe Scarborough. Apparently MSNBC decided that unlike the rest of the weekend newsies, they would not have wall to wall coverage on breaking events in Iran. And Scarborough apparently won the ratings for his time slot this weekend. He and his co-host said while they would have preferred wall-to-wall coverage personally, since editors and producers are paid to air shows that attract people, like it or not they made the right decision.

]]> By: The_Gadfly http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/06/23/hot-dogs-in-public-credit-taking-in-private-the-white-houses-search-for-an-iranian-domestic-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-17759 The_Gadfly Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:55:51 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3360#comment-17759 and tell them they were all beef frankfurters. But then again, I am a rotten, mean bastage about that sort of thing. and tell them they were all beef frankfurters.

But then again, I am a rotten, mean bastage about that sort of thing.

]]> By: briann http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/06/23/hot-dogs-in-public-credit-taking-in-private-the-white-houses-search-for-an-iranian-domestic-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-17758 briann Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:49:29 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3360#comment-17758 <i>I’m guessing the other 70% will take a dim view of our diplomats serving hot dogs to Iranian government officials[...]</i> I'm guessing that at least 40% will never hear a peep of this. This is the real problem with the heavily biased media; we have a President that is actively selling us out to our enemies and noone even knows about it. I agree that Obama looks alot like Carter II, and I also hope he meets the same fate. I seem to remember that Carter initially had heavy media support but they turned on him. Anyone else remember that? Anyone know why? -Bri I’m guessing the other 70% will take a dim view of our diplomats serving hot dogs to Iranian government officials[...]

I’m guessing that at least 40% will never hear a peep of this. This is the real problem with the heavily biased media; we have a President that is actively selling us out to our enemies and noone even knows about it.

I agree that Obama looks alot like Carter II, and I also hope he meets the same fate. I seem to remember that Carter initially had heavy media support but they turned on him. Anyone else remember that? Anyone know why?

-Bri

]]> By: Marcus_Traianus http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/06/23/hot-dogs-in-public-credit-taking-in-private-the-white-houses-search-for-an-iranian-domestic-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-17757 Marcus_Traianus Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:28:49 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3360#comment-17757 The only thing he inspired in complete confusion about any point he was trying to make. I think this point encapsulates the general feeling; <blockquote> As for Obama's speech itself, Khalil said it was "very typical of western perception and of a newly-elected president." - Gulf News</blockquote> What IS inspiring? How about the most vibrant, nascent Middle East democracy (save Israel) right next door in Iraq? Gee, do you think the Iranian students know anything about the freedoms and change that inspired? I am SURE the MSM is just getting around to making that point......someday five years from now. The only thing he inspired in complete confusion about any point he was trying to make. I think this point encapsulates the general feeling;

As for Obama’s speech itself, Khalil said it was “very typical of western perception and of a newly-elected president.” – Gulf News

What IS inspiring? How about the most vibrant, nascent Middle East democracy (save Israel) right next door in Iraq? Gee, do you think the Iranian students know anything about the freedoms and change that inspired? I am SURE the MSM is just getting around to making that point……someday five years from now.

]]> By: 6eorge Jetson http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/06/23/hot-dogs-in-public-credit-taking-in-private-the-white-houses-search-for-an-iranian-domestic-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-17756 6eorge Jetson Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:21:29 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3360#comment-17756 Just clarifying. It's not how I initially interpreted "them" at first glance. Just clarifying. It’s not how I initially interpreted “them” at first glance.

]]> By: 6eorge Jetson http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/06/23/hot-dogs-in-public-credit-taking-in-private-the-white-houses-search-for-an-iranian-domestic-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-17755 6eorge Jetson Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:10:51 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3360#comment-17755 <img src="http://yzss6g.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pAeo965dhfciXt4KXyGnqZrqSrbhDQpcoEFP4X3Exu3F-LA5hEhzuZZKIBDRQTOcEH84xfJrHlLZkmjgRn8hI2A/ThreeAm.jpg" />

]]> By: IJB http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/06/23/hot-dogs-in-public-credit-taking-in-private-the-white-houses-search-for-an-iranian-domestic-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-17753 IJB Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:40:37 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3360#comment-17753 Obama's hard-core is probably around 30% of the populace (and that may be *at best*). I'm guessing the other 70% will take a dim view of our diplomats serving hot dogs to Iranian government officials, at the same time that the Iranian government is tearing babies out of their cribs and throwing them on bonfires & shooting pregnant women down in the streets back home. I am thankful for one thing: my (and many others') predictions that this guy would be Carter II seems to be coming to full fruition. The result of this will be: 1) the Democrats won't hold the White House again for 12-20 years, and 2) the next time they do, it'll be in the form of a Clinton-esque moderate and not a fire-breathing commie a la the current Administration... Obama’s hard-core is probably around 30% of the populace (and that may be *at best*).

I’m guessing the other 70% will take a dim view of our diplomats serving hot dogs to Iranian government officials, at the same time that the Iranian government is tearing babies out of their cribs and throwing them on bonfires & shooting pregnant women down in the streets back home.

I am thankful for one thing: my (and many others’) predictions that this guy would be Carter II seems to be coming to full fruition. The result of this will be: 1) the Democrats won’t hold the White House again for 12-20 years, and 2) the next time they do, it’ll be in the form of a Clinton-esque moderate and not a fire-breathing commie a la the current Administration…

]]> By: djemi http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/06/23/hot-dogs-in-public-credit-taking-in-private-the-white-houses-search-for-an-iranian-domestic-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-17752 djemi Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:33:23 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3360#comment-17752 If the opposition in Iran win this and I think in the end they will, it's bad for BO. Why? Because if Iran becomes the Democratic Islamic Republic, it will prove the Bush was right all along and that BO was wrong. Now if BO was wrong on forgein affairs he will be meet with more descent on his Domestic agenda, won't he. The Blame it on Bush mantra will start to sound like a lame duck excuse. If the opposition in Iran win this and I think in the end they will, it’s bad for BO. Why? Because if Iran becomes the Democratic Islamic Republic, it will prove the Bush was right all along and that BO was wrong. Now if BO was wrong on forgein affairs he will be meet with more descent on his Domestic agenda, won’t he. The Blame it on Bush mantra will start to sound like a lame duck excuse.

]]> By: civil_truth http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/06/23/hot-dogs-in-public-credit-taking-in-private-the-white-houses-search-for-an-iranian-domestic-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-17751 civil_truth Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:28:10 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3360#comment-17751 Read Orwell, and then read how the Communists of the 30s and 40s twisted themselves into pretzels as they followed the political twists and turns of the Soviet Union's foreign policy. A few like Orwell became disenchanted, but most obediently sacrificed all principle to follow their leader In other words, for Obama's followers and his clients in the media, no matter what Obama does, he's right - and not only right, he's the most brilliant and inspired leader the U.S. has ever had...no, make that in the history of the world. Read Orwell, and then read how the Communists of the 30s and 40s twisted themselves into pretzels as they followed the political twists and turns of the Soviet Union’s foreign policy. A few like Orwell became disenchanted, but most obediently sacrificed all principle to follow their leader

In other words, for Obama’s followers and his clients in the media, no matter what Obama does, he’s right – and not only right, he’s the most brilliant and inspired leader the U.S. has ever had…no, make that in the history of the world.

]]> By: bobojake http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/06/23/hot-dogs-in-public-credit-taking-in-private-the-white-houses-search-for-an-iranian-domestic-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-17750 bobojake Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:28:06 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3360#comment-17750 If they come to the Embassy Barbecue. Now if they want a real deal they should come to the TEA PARTIES protesting obamas horrendoust tax and spending. They will have a real good time and their won't be LIARS reading words off FLASHCARDS. If they come to the Embassy Barbecue.
Now if they want a real deal they should come to the TEA PARTIES protesting obamas horrendoust tax and spending. They will have a real good time and their won’t be LIARS reading words off FLASHCARDS.

]]> By: smitch61 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/06/23/hot-dogs-in-public-credit-taking-in-private-the-white-houses-search-for-an-iranian-domestic-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-17749 smitch61 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:17:20 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3360#comment-17749 I am going to go out on a limb here and state that if this man allows this so called "picnic" to go on as scheduled and to validate this cruel dictatorship..... He is finished. His polls will hit the floor and talks of impeachment will abound...He is insane. I am going to go out on a limb here and state that if this man allows this so called “picnic” to go on as scheduled and to validate this cruel dictatorship….. He is finished. His polls will hit the floor and talks of impeachment will abound…He is insane.

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