Allahpundit has a post up about the White House’s sudden, if guarded escalation of its anti-election fraud in Iran rhetoric – I can’t imagine why we’re suddenly seeing that; can you? – and ended it with this question:
Exit question: How would Saddam be reacting to all this if he was still in charge in Iraq?
The answer to that is actually simple: he wouldn’t be, because this wouldn’t be happening. The people of Iran aren’t stupid; they wouldn’t even flirt with the idea of a civil war if they were still sharing a border with a genocidal, expansionist regime that killed at least 200K of their countrymen in the last war. Saddam Hussein used poison gas in that war, after all. Somebody that vile couldn’t be trusted not to leap on a distracted Iran and start rending. ‘Course, that’s no longer a worry, given that we took the murdering tyrant out and hanged him a while back; not to mention, shooting down his sons in the street like the mad dogs that they were. So now they share a border (for the moment) with the Great Satan, who everybody knows has precisely zero interest in invading them.
Gee. Funny how things work out sometimes, huh?
Moe Lane
PS: Good job, whoever it was in the State Department that told Twitter to keep the lines open.
Crossposted to Moe Lane.
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interesting (and original) thought, moe
icbm (Diary) Tuesday, June 16th at 4:03PM EST (link)worth writing up as a full column and publishing in a newspaper/magazine, in my view
no better time than now to make the anti-iraq-war realists rethink their realist opposition to that endeavor. the effort to rebuild iraq (and liberalize the region) still needs more popular support among americans.
Bizarre
Skanderbeg (Diary) Tuesday, June 16th at 4:29PM EST (link)Huh?
That question is in the same league as “What if Superman had landed in Germany?” and “What if Eleanor Roosevelt could fly?”
not exactly
kyle8 (Diary) Tuesday, June 16th at 4:40PM EST (link)it is a hypothetical based upon recent political events.
The operative here is to imagine that Bush had not toppled Saddam, and now Saddam would be in a position to take advantage of the chaos in Iran.
Since there are many many Americans who say the world would be a better place if Bush had not removed Hussein, then it is a hypothetical that challenges this viewpoint.
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Kyle
Not not exactly
Skanderbeg (Diary) Tuesday, June 16th at 9:32PM EST (link)Perhaps, but compared to the realities of it now being 2009, that question is nearly as silly as the two old Saturday Night Live “What if….?” items I noted above.
It’s amazing that some people still want to obsess over that stuff from back then. Move On, for God’s sake!!
Gee, I wonder if President Bush's policy
The_Rebel (Diary) Tuesday, June 16th at 5:45PM EST (link)of promoting democracy in Iraq and throughout the rest of the Arab world has anything to do with the Iranians hunger for a more democratic Iran, and their consequent uprising?
And gosh, how is it that Obama doesn’t want to meddle in Iran’s internal affairs, but is more than willing to do so when it comes to Israeli settlements and other internal Israeli matters?
Just asking.
quit wondering and quit dreaming
garyg Tuesday, June 16th at 7:09PM EST (link)short term memory there? If I recall, the Iranians were quite happy electing the hard-line anti-Bush Ahmadinejad only 4 years ago.
They found their anti-American voice just fine, with your help, thanks. And now they’re doing the opposite, without your help, just fine.
But knowing your ridiculous kind, I’m sure you’ll be glad to build a military base or two over there, just to “remind” them what happens if they don’t vote for their “freedoms” like adults.
Alright who stepped on the trolls nest-nt
DONTREADONME (Diary) Tuesday, June 16th at 7:29PM EST (link)Aww, it's not our fault...
Moe Lane (Diary) Tuesday, June 16th at 7:34PM EST (link)…that you picked the wrong side.
Not in your name, Sparky.
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The_Rebel (Diary) Tuesday, June 16th at 9:04PM EST (link)n/t
Good point rebel. And you're a stupid turd garyg.
itrytobenice (Diary) Tuesday, June 16th at 7:16PM EST (link)This is what it looks like when people are keeping up with the Jones’s in regards to democracy.
The people of Iran see the people of Iraq with freedom to choose their rulers and nothing quite makes you want to be free like seeing your neighbor free.
Good job, GWB.
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Well, at least you try. lol
Tbone (Diary) Tuesday, June 16th at 8:09PM EST (link)“you’re a stupid turd garyg”
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
Well, at least Obama isn't a cowboy like Bush
Marcus_Traianus (Diary) Tuesday, June 16th at 6:13PM EST (link)Oh, come now. We have seen enough. cowboy diplomacy for at least a generation. You can’t run the country and solve all the world’s problems by running around with six-guns blazing. If anything, Iraq proved that wreckless leadership does nothing to improve the safety of our world.
Obama is just being measured. He would never think of conducting policy by poll. That’s just plain silly. Obama is about bold strokes, change and a new world in which North Korea and Iran can threaten us with nuclear weapons. That’s equal footing and respect- not short sighted, foolish and dangerous.
Leadership is not about supporting your friends, encouraging democracy and speaking from the heart about what is primally right. It is about taking a political pulse and then seizing the moment to make it LOOK like you are leading the way.
It’s a new age bucko. Better get with the times.
“Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object—the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good. One side believes it best done by one composition of the governing powers; the other, by a different one. One fears most the ignorance of the people; the other, the selfishness of rulers independent of them. Which is right, time and experience will prove.”.Thomas Jefferson
Great points
bk (Diary) Tuesday, June 16th at 8:14PM EST (link)The other thing I like is that Obama says he doesn’t want to “meddle” in Iranian politics … right after he insists on micromanaging what Israel does with settlements.