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	<title>Comments on: Let us compare two commercials: GM&#8217;s, and its parody.</title>
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		<title>By: Flagstaff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flagstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no shame in not being a fan, though.  It just proves that he isn&#039;t leading an army of mindless followers, he&#039;s just in the front of the parade.

My opinion is that Rush is listened to because of what &lt;b&gt;he&lt;/b&gt; says and the perspective he applies to his topics.  The rest of them (Hannity, O&#039;Reilly, &lt;i&gt;etc&lt;/i&gt;.) get listeners and viewers who want to hear what their &lt;b&gt;guests&lt;/b&gt; have to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no shame in not being a fan, though.  It just proves that he isn&#8217;t leading an army of mindless followers, he&#8217;s just in the front of the parade.</p>
<p>My opinion is that Rush is listened to because of what <b>he</b> says and the perspective he applies to his topics.  The rest of them (Hannity, O&#8217;Reilly, <i>etc</i>.) get listeners and viewers who want to hear what their <b>guests</b> have to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Flagstaff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flagstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>could deliver infinite miles-per-gallon.

No consideration has been given to how much additional commercial electrical generating capacity would be needed if all the cars and trucks in the US were powered by electricity.  Nor to how much it will cost to safely dispose of all the batteries and battery materials those cars will need--lead, exotic metals, &lt;i&gt;etc&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>could deliver infinite miles-per-gallon.</p>
<p>No consideration has been given to how much additional commercial electrical generating capacity would be needed if all the cars and trucks in the US were powered by electricity.  Nor to how much it will cost to safely dispose of all the batteries and battery materials those cars will need&#8211;lead, exotic metals, <i>etc</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: molybdanthan</title>
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		<dc:creator>molybdanthan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However, the energy grid needs to be modernized.  Talk about your  vital infrastructure.  

I wouldn&#039;t mind the Dems relaxing their opposition to Nuclear plants.  There hasn&#039;t been a new one built in the US in more than 20 years.  They&#039;re going up all over the world.  Just not here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, the energy grid needs to be modernized.  Talk about your  vital infrastructure.  </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t mind the Dems relaxing their opposition to Nuclear plants.  There hasn&#8217;t been a new one built in the US in more than 20 years.  They&#8217;re going up all over the world.  Just not here.</p>
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		<title>By: JHancock</title>
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		<dc:creator>JHancock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cause it&#039;s true!! GM will now be a Democratic political tool to advance green and socialist agenda!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cause it&#8217;s true!! GM will now be a Democratic political tool to advance green and socialist agenda!</p>
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		<title>By: JoeG</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoeG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m an old fart and I remember listening when Rush was a lonely voice in the wilderness.  It makes me rather loyal....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an old fart and I remember listening when Rush was a lonely voice in the wilderness.  It makes me rather loyal&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeG</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoeG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coal power is domestic power.

Nuclear isn&#039;t totally domestic, but only a very tiny sliver of the total expense goes towards foreign bought uranium, and that uranium comes from friendly democracies.

Either way, they are a whole lot better than buying middle east oil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coal power is domestic power.</p>
<p>Nuclear isn&#8217;t totally domestic, but only a very tiny sliver of the total expense goes towards foreign bought uranium, and that uranium comes from friendly democracies.</p>
<p>Either way, they are a whole lot better than buying middle east oil.</p>
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		<title>By: molybdanthan</title>
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		<dc:creator>molybdanthan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: molybdanthan</title>
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		<dc:creator>molybdanthan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has to plug in at night.  Where I live, our power comes from burning coal, so here it would really be a coal car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has to plug in at night.  Where I live, our power comes from burning coal, so here it would really be a coal car.</p>
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		<title>By: mustango</title>
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		<dc:creator>mustango</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 13:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The line about being more focused on profits was a bit of a misfire too.  GM under government control is going to be profitable the way the post office is profitable.  Meaning, not at all.

&quot;In other words, more Japanese.&quot;  The implication being that this would be a BAD thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The line about being more focused on profits was a bit of a misfire too.  GM under government control is going to be profitable the way the post office is profitable.  Meaning, not at all.</p>
<p>&#8220;In other words, more Japanese.&#8221;  The implication being that this would be a BAD thing?</p>
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		<title>By: Moe Lane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moe Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 13:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not for any particular reason; I just prefer music on when I&#039;m in the car, and that&#039;s about the only time that I have the radio on.  Besides, I figure that I&#039;ll hear about anything especially good about as quickly as it happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not for any particular reason; I just prefer music on when I&#8217;m in the car, and that&#8217;s about the only time that I have the radio on.  Besides, I figure that I&#8217;ll hear about anything especially good about as quickly as it happens.</p>
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		<title>By: dmartin</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 13:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first one was utter propaganda, and the second one completely missed the point. The big three have two problems, union contracts and CAFE, government control does nothing to solve either problem. Unions are now on both sides of the bargaining table with the taxpayer picking up the tab for the contracts. Dont waste your breath talking of boycoting GM, you are going to pay for their cars whether you buy them or not. Recent changes in CAFE standards will force Ford to phase out the F150, which has been their perenial bread and buttter, and will force them either under uncle Obama&#039;s wing, producing envirotrash like GM, or out of business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first one was utter propaganda, and the second one completely missed the point. The big three have two problems, union contracts and CAFE, government control does nothing to solve either problem. Unions are now on both sides of the bargaining table with the taxpayer picking up the tab for the contracts. Dont waste your breath talking of boycoting GM, you are going to pay for their cars whether you buy them or not. Recent changes in CAFE standards will force Ford to phase out the F150, which has been their perenial bread and buttter, and will force them either under uncle Obama&#8217;s wing, producing envirotrash like GM, or out of business.</p>
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		<title>By: dmartin</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 12:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;ll be the first sponsor dropped under Obama controlled adverrtising</description>
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		<title>By: Fred Maidment</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Maidment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 10:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...and more committed to the oil companies.&quot;

The parody was created by someone who thinks the auto companies actually buy patents that improve fuel efficiency in order to bury them and keep oil companies happy.  I don&#039;t know why that makes sense to people, but it doesn&#039;t to somebody in business.

It&#039;s not like Shell can just say, &quot;We won&#039;t sell gas to people who drive GM cars.&quot;  They&#039;d have to tell their franchisees, &quot;Look, we want to increase our profits, so we&#039;re going to eliminate roughly 30% of your sales.  Can&#039;t have people driving those fuel efficient cars.&quot;  To prevent this scenario, GM makes vehicles that get low gas mileage that people are less inclined to buy now that gas is $2.50/gallon.

Yeah, right.  That makes sense.

Maybe it&#039;s just more likely that these patents didn&#039;t work...  Or in a lot of cases, never existed in the first place...  &#039;Cause let&#039;s face it, when gas was $4 a gallon, just about every car company in America would have &lt;i&gt;loved&lt;/i&gt; to have had that 100mpg carburetor. 

I am just as angry as anyone else that GM got this bailout, but there is honest criticism and there is paranoia.  The parody maker is paranoid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;and more committed to the oil companies.&#8221;</p>
<p>The parody was created by someone who thinks the auto companies actually buy patents that improve fuel efficiency in order to bury them and keep oil companies happy.  I don&#8217;t know why that makes sense to people, but it doesn&#8217;t to somebody in business.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not like Shell can just say, &#8220;We won&#8217;t sell gas to people who drive GM cars.&#8221;  They&#8217;d have to tell their franchisees, &#8220;Look, we want to increase our profits, so we&#8217;re going to eliminate roughly 30% of your sales.  Can&#8217;t have people driving those fuel efficient cars.&#8221;  To prevent this scenario, GM makes vehicles that get low gas mileage that people are less inclined to buy now that gas is $2.50/gallon.</p>
<p>Yeah, right.  That makes sense.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s just more likely that these patents didn&#8217;t work&#8230;  Or in a lot of cases, never existed in the first place&#8230;  &#8216;Cause let&#8217;s face it, when gas was $4 a gallon, just about every car company in America would have <i>loved</i> to have had that 100mpg carburetor. </p>
<p>I am just as angry as anyone else that GM got this bailout, but there is honest criticism and there is paranoia.  The parody maker is paranoid.</p>
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		<title>By: mbecker908</title>
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		<dc:creator>mbecker908</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 06:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s new owners.  If anything, they&#039;ll double the buy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s new owners.  If anything, they&#8217;ll double the buy.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeG</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoeG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 06:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I clearly remember hearing the ad yesterday.  I listen online to several stations, I think it was WOND in NJ.</description>
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		<title>By: OccamsRazor</title>
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		<dc:creator>OccamsRazor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 05:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in this thread. But I haven&#039;t ever listened to Rush-only in passing. 

  However, I&#039;d imagine that he knows GM is being galvanize under socialism where the risk is paid by the people and the profits are taken by the &quot;oligarchy&quot;-where he has no control of the bigger picture. 

  Rush knows where his bread is buttered, and it&#039;s based and marinated in principle.

 GM is not a long term play, but character is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in this thread. But I haven&#8217;t ever listened to Rush-only in passing. </p>
<p>  However, I&#8217;d imagine that he knows GM is being galvanize under socialism where the risk is paid by the people and the profits are taken by the &#8220;oligarchy&#8221;-where he has no control of the bigger picture. </p>
<p>  Rush knows where his bread is buttered, and it&#8217;s based and marinated in principle.</p>
<p> GM is not a long term play, but character is.</p>
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		<title>By: Flagstaff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flagstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 05:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I listen to most of the show, most days.  I haven&#039;t heard a GM ad recently, and I wondered if he&#039;d stopped advertising for them.

I agree with Neil.  No conflict if he isn&#039;t pulling his punches,  and he isn&#039;t as far as I&#039;ve heard.  He needs to keep all his advertisers--here in Flagstaff (Ann Arbor SW), local advertisers seem to be boycotting his show.  The local station dropped him when DST started across the country.  It took them about two weeks to change their minds.  I guess that enough of us let them know we weren&#039;t interested in listening to Dolly and Waylon and Reba for three hours each morning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I listen to most of the show, most days.  I haven&#8217;t heard a GM ad recently, and I wondered if he&#8217;d stopped advertising for them.</p>
<p>I agree with Neil.  No conflict if he isn&#8217;t pulling his punches,  and he isn&#8217;t as far as I&#8217;ve heard.  He needs to keep all his advertisers&#8211;here in Flagstaff (Ann Arbor SW), local advertisers seem to be boycotting his show.  The local station dropped him when DST started across the country.  It took them about two weeks to change their minds.  I guess that enough of us let them know we weren&#8217;t interested in listening to Dolly and Waylon and Reba for three hours each morning.</p>
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		<title>By: Flagstaff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flagstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 05:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to find some good stuff like this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;FEATURE STORY

GM kills electric car, five others in shooting spree.

CEO Says electric car tried to &quot;f**k my s**t up&quot; and totally &quot;had it coming&quot;. Electric car is survived by electric scooter, and electric bus.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Follow the links there to read about the &#039;90s &quot;EV-1&quot; and its &quot;thousands of customers lined up to buy it,&quot; and also Michael Moore&#039;s rant on HuffPo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to find some good stuff like this:</p>
<blockquote><p>FEATURE STORY</p>
<p>GM kills electric car, five others in shooting spree.</p>
<p>CEO Says electric car tried to &#8220;f**k my s**t up&#8221; and totally &#8220;had it coming&#8221;. Electric car is survived by electric scooter, and electric bus.</p></blockquote>
<p>Follow the links there to read about the &#8217;90s &#8220;EV-1&#8243; and its &#8220;thousands of customers lined up to buy it,&#8221; and also Michael Moore&#8217;s rant on HuffPo.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeG</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoeG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 05:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and yanks the advertising.  It&#039;s just painful to listen to the commercials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and yanks the advertising.  It&#8217;s just painful to listen to the commercials.</p>
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		<title>By: Flagstaff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flagstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 04:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is Chapter Eleven.</description>
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