(Via Instapundit) No, not Fitzgerald: Illinois is a little too prominent right now for that kind of shenanigans. North Carolina, on the other hand…
Democrats fix sights on GOP prosecutor
John Edwards admits federal investigators are asking him questions. Federal subpoenas were issued Friday related to Mike Easley.
As the separate federal probes into a former senator and the former governor are emerging, Democrats are taking steps to replace the Republican prosecutor who is spearheading the inquiries about the highest-profile North Carolina Democrats of the past decade.
All the nearly 100 top federal prosecutors across the country serve at the will of the president. Any replacement for U.S. Attorney George E.B. Holding, a Bush appointee who has kept a priority on public corruption cases from Raleigh to the coast, will be subject to U.S. Senate confirmation.
The process gives a key role in the decision to U.S. Sen. Kay Hagan, a Democrat who was in the state Senate leadership for several years until she unseated Republican Sen. Elizabeth Dole in November. Already, Hagan has formed a panel to screen candidates. It is led by Burley Mitchell, former chief justice of the N.C. Supreme Court who now works at the Womble Carlyle Sandridge & Rice law firm.
They’re claiming that this screening process is ‘coincidental’ to the investigations, of course.
Of course.
It is of course the right of the President to fire and hire US Attorneys as he pleases. Screening replacements is likewise well within the traditional role of US Senators. But – and this is important to consider – there is nothing stopping either from doing either for crassly partisan political purposes. Notice the lack from either of reassurances that US Attorney George Holding will of course be allowed to at least finish up his ongoing corruption investigations, even if he is looking into improprieties involving the former governor of North Carolina*. You could blame that lack on inexperience in both cases… but you could also blame that on a certain desire to quietly squash a potentially embarrassing scandal before it threatens to challenge the Democratic Party’s lock on North Carolina’s state government. If that happens, at the moment our options for stopping them are kind of limited. And by ‘our’ I mean ‘the Republican Party,’ which remains the only organization that has any hope of consistently countering Democratic chicanery.
And no amount of shouting, yelling, pounding the table, screaming, pouting, pontificating – and, frankly, whining – will change that fact.
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*Nobody really cares about Edwards, in my opinion. It’s Easley that they’re interested in, and it’s Easley that could cause a real scandal.
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vettepilot (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 9:29AM EST (link)He and Gonzalez must be punished. Oh wait, wrong party. Move along, nothing to see here…
I swear, this whole administration is becoming more like Bizarro-world every day.
You've got it half wrong Moe
bk (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 9:37AM EST (link)“It is of course the right of the President to fire and hire US Attorneys as he pleases.”
That depends on whether the President has a D or an R after his name. It was fine for Clinton to fire 100% of them; when Bush fired a few there was wailing and gnashing of teeth in Congress that it was a political move demanding oversight hearings, special prosecutors, frog marching, etc. Now of course Obama can do whatever he wants.
It's already started
K James Monday, May 18th at 9:38AM EST (link)The provost of NC State University has already been forced to resign over his connections to Mike and Mary Easley and the influence peddling taking place there. There are probably all kinds of things that Holding could uncover in NC.
The difference between NC and Illinois is that the Democrat’s stranglehold on the state is more tenuous… so they will of course nip this in the bud any way they can.
Get yo’ popcorn ready.
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Rod_Patrick (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 9:47AM EST (link)Potential replacement shenanigans
daves_not_here (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 10:20AM EST (link)Here is a local article on the situation. The update to the main article has some interesting info on Hagan’s replacement deliberations:
“I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.”
Link for local article
daves_not_here (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 10:21AM EST (link)Slow down, Dave.
Here is the link
“I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.”
You mean there's corruption here?!?!?!
itrytobenice (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 4:38PM EST (link)How in the world could that be now that those nasty Republicans are out of office? You must be mistaken. Move on folks. Nothing to see here.
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Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 10:34AM EST (link)It just hasn’t been on the national radar. I did a little diary on this some time ago:
http://www.redstate.com/jack_savage/2008/10/22/the-democrat-culture-of-corruption-in-north-c/
Just another day in a Democrat controlled state. Nothing to see here.
If you defended Bush firing U S Attorneys, you're a hypocrite if you decry this 'potential' firing. NT
USNJIMRET (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 11:51AM EST (link)That would assume that the Bush firings *were* politically motivated...
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 11:59AM EST (link)rather than being performance related.
I personally have no problem with Obama firing some U.S. Attorney’s as long as it is for performance….if it is a political hit job…well that is a different story.
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Aaron, those positions are political appointments (see Achance on this)
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 12:08PM EST (link)and one of the main mistakes of Republicans that Achance has documented so well over the years is our failure to get rid of dems in the executive when we come in to power. Bush made a major mistake of even getting into explaining why he fired some US attys. What was really shocking was that this an area of executive leadership that Dubya was pr pretty schooled in being the first MBA prez we ever had.
Honestly, I think all execs should ask for the resignations of all political appointees upon taking office, and then deciding whether to keep some based on specific circumstances. This does apply more to to US attys, I would admit, given that so much of their work is non-political, but one thing that is not non-political is in what cases they CHOOSE to prosecute and so the distinction between politics and “performance” can be quite elusive anyway.
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Let me add this though, Aa - it is quite appropriate that the GOP
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 12:10PM EST (link)highlight a political firing to highlight a wrong position on policy, etc, but not to try and save the person’s job.
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randy streu (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 12:13PM EST (link)I said it during the Bush attorney-firing fiasco, and it has to work here as well: They are appointed by the President, they can be fired for whatever reason he wants them to be. He doesn’t owe anyone an explanation about it. If he doesn’t like that they happen to sneeze loudly, he can fire them.
Also, agreed that the only real mistake of the Bush administration in that whole event was allowing the Dems to THINK they had any say in the matter. He should have told them to suck it.
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So political hit jobs are ok....
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 12:27PM EST (link)There is clearly a difference between what Bush did and what is being talked about here. I believe we do ourselves a disservice in equating the two…in fact I believe we play right into their hands by doing so.
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Any reason, no reason, but not an illegal reason.
Achance (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 12:37PM EST (link)A removal to thwart an investigation or a prosecution would be illegal on some corruption grounds or under ethics laws.
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I understand that Art....that is the point I am failing to make I guess...
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 12:42PM EST (link)The fact that the players currently involved all stand to benefit from the firing, and subsequent thwarting of an active investigation, should raise some questions.
Acting like this is happening in a vacuum and calling those who raise objections hypocrites plays right into the Dems hands….They have TPM for that…I don’t understand why we should give them the ammo.
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Nothing's illegal if nobody cares to prosecute it.
Achance (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 12:48PM EST (link)If the feds don’t want it and the state doesn’t want it, they get a pass; just the way it works.
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So we should just accept the label of hypocrit??
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 12:59PM EST (link)and not only accept it but promote it on our own sites, giving a pass to all the crap the left has put us through.
I can deal with fire coming from the enemy…but the stupid throw away lines coming from our “allies” is getting really old.
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We can argue it, make an issue of it, but
Achance (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 1:05PM EST (link)anything that takes more than two sentences to explain is beyond the grasp of the American public, so nobody will care. The Ds did a very good job of convincing the public that all Republicans are corrupt, therefore this US Attorney is corrupt. Democrats are definitionally good people, so the good people are removing the corrupt attorney. Got it?
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Yeah Art...I got it....I just would like to change it...
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 1:10PM EST (link)apparently others are fine with the status quo and enjoy fighting from the minority.
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Oh, I'm not advocating that we let up on it, it's
Achance (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 1:17PM EST (link)just that we’re only doing it for our own satisfaction. Trying to either deal with Democrat corruption or get the public to understand it is like trying to teach a pig to sing; it frustrates you and irritates the pig.
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I hear you Art...
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 1:26PM EST (link)But the Dems didn’t get it to that point by being quiet and calling their own hypocrites….they did it through unwavering repetition and a complicit media.
Since we don’t have a complicit media we have to be twice as loud, unwavering and less antagonistic to our own side, as you have suggested in the past with regard to people like Stevens.
FWIW the “others” I was referring to in the above comment didn’t include you.
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"We" play into their hands when we use their "logic" to agree or disagree with something.
USNJIMRET (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 12:59PM EST (link)Particularly when that “something” is an absolute right of the President to do, or not.
Word games to rationalize why this act is ‘wrong’ and that act was ‘right’ are just playing word games.
Which the left is very adept at doing.
And some on the so called right are racing to catch up on.
So you believe regardless of the possibility that this firing could actually be illegal that we should ignore it...
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 1:08PM EST (link)Not all firings are equal…sorry.
And I never disputed the President’s right to fire an AG.
Oh and you can take your veiled attack on me shove it.
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Attack on you? Wouldn't that require my thinking you worth attacking?
USNJIMRET (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 6:14PM EST (link)I don’t know you, haven’t read much by you, and am pretty certain you don’t know me.
But if you think that YOU are so important that I would waste my time in a silly Internet Tough Guy attack…..OK.
I just find it mildly amusing how many people are willing to go to the mat to decry what Nobama “might” be getting ready to do, without a shred of evidence. And wonder how many of them defended the heck out of Bush when there was no evidence then either.
As for there being a “political” versus performance cause for a firing, so what?
If the President of the United States has the Constitutional power to hire/fire U S Attorneys, without Constitutionally established conditions (ie at the pleasure of the President), then the President has that power.
If Nobama had fired all the serving Attorneys at the outset of his Administration, like Clinton did, that would be political as all get out.
And no one would have said a word.
NOW, however, the Presidents Pleasure is to be held hostage to everyone with an opinion of “performance”??
It’s not “serve at the pleasure of the President” if anyone else gets to establish what “pleasure” means, is it?
Well jeez then USNJ why is Karl Rove having to testify about...
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 6:49PM EST (link)President Bush’s pleasure to fire his attorneys? yeah that’s right it is only Republicans that must pay for firing 7 attorneys but the idiot in chief now can damn well do what he wants as well as the whore in chief prior to him!
Your argument is beyond the pale in calling anyone on this site out for making hay over a US Attorney firing when right at this very moment Bush Administration officials are having to speak to liberals on a witch hunt!
Go sell your “at the pleasure of the President” somewhere else that dog don’t hunt here nor anywhere else anymore WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IN GOOD FOR THE GANDER oh and when Obama is gone from the Presidency we will call for investigations and congressional hearings on what he knew and when he knew it for socializing the country….the RULES HAVE CHANGED! get used to it!
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Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 7:11PM EST (link)So I guess I must be worth it….and anytime you feel like reading my stuff go ahead and take a gander. I ain’t hiding.
And again I will say that I have no problem with the President invoking his privilege to fire any or all U.S. Attorneys….what I have a problem with is his party and him using that privilege to protect their allies who are under a current investigation, which regardless of the President’s privilege is at the least unethical.
As far as no evidence goes…well there is evidence…it just happens to be circumstantial evidence. Add that into the fact that Nancy Pelosi is currently trying to pass more rules to shield Democrats in Congress from prosecution and things start smelling pretty fishy.
As far as your “Internet Tough Guy” bit…well just another veiled attack…your good at those.
Get a clue.
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Achance (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 1:32AM EST (link)“At the pleasure” does not include removing a federal officer to save the ass of one of your Democrat buddies; that’s called corruption. It would have been corruption for GWB to do so had one of the US Attornies he contemplated firing been in the midst of an investigation, the termination of which would have benefited the Administration. When you take your hand off the Bible, you fire them all and put your own in. After that, you remove one at your peril.
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Maybe we want to point out something
Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 6:56PM EST (link)Like maybe the fact that they are hypocrites and liars. This seems like an excellent opportunity to do so, unless you feel they are being consistent in their apoplexy over the Bush firings while working undercover to make this one happen.
Maybe you could also do some investigation on how tied up NC’s new Senator Kay Hagen is in the whole corrupt NC machine, take a look at the diary in my comment above, and draw your own conclusions.
I have, and this firing will happen, friend. If you think it is perfectly fine, and it seems like you have, then OK. I think it is outright scandal.
agreed there is a difference and I did make the caveat that we
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 1:54PM EST (link)should highlight wrongful substantive reasons for political “hit jobs”. But these substantive reasons are usually the same reasons that separate liberals and conservatives in elections.
I would really feel better Aa, if you would go back and acknowledge my caveat that essentially made your point, albeit in a more nuanced and legally sophisticated way!
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Yes, we should make hay and point out the differences with Bush’s act (too bad Bush didn’t himself) but we should not confuse the issue with the “right to fire.”
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Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 2:03PM EST (link)And I fully acknowledge that you reiterated my point.
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Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 2:04PM EST (link)I am an anal retentive a hole, I know it.
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HERE WAS WHERE YOU MAY HAVE MISSED MY CAVEAT AARON -
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 1:57PM EST (link)you know my pet peeve in which someone disagrees with me when I have actually made essentially there point….
this time
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Politics IS Performance.
Achance (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 12:15PM EST (link)You want your attornies especially to be on the same page as the administration; that’s why I don’t like elected AGs in states, AG stands for Almost Governor if they’re elected. And, Hell yes, I believe in politically motivated investigations and prosecutions, just like the other guys do. There are limits to it, and you can’t trump stuff up, see, e.g., Stevens, Ted, former US Senator, but the Democrat front groups posing as non-profits and unions have had a pass for fifty years and it is time for some Republican AGs to take a peek up their skirts.
And, the only lament that we should have on this is that Obama won’t fire a lot of US Attornies because GWB left so many holdovers in place just waiting for the next Democrat to come along.
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Interesting point re state AGs as there was a prominent Georgia
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 12:22PM EST (link)case when I was in ATL concerning the executive’s power in a certain matter and the dem elect AG sued the GOP guv and the sup ct ruled for the AG. I didn’t see a huge problem given the constitutional issue, but you raise a good point.
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What I find so interesting about your point is that I never thought
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 12:24PM EST (link)about the difference in state and federal before esp given the context of when dems always try and get the AG of a repub prez to go after their own administration because they are “the peoples’” lawyer.
great issue
still thinking and would love for you to elaborate more on why you favor unelected AGs and how you feel about the whole “peoples’ lawyer” claim
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In my ideal government you'd have an appointed AG
Achance (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 12:34PM EST (link)and an appointed Solicitor General or some similar title, The AG would serve at the Governor’s pleasure, the Solicitor General would be appointed by the Governor but serve a fixed term, say three years if the Gov’s term is four, during which she could only be removed for cause. Both would be subject to confirmation. The Solicitor then becomes the one who handles state cases and supervises prosecutions. The AG would be the legal policy maker, the administrative head of the Legal Department, and the Governor’s legal advisor. The cross-over term would also stop meritorious cases and prosecutions from becoming trade goods in the gubernatorial election since they’d be under the control of the State Solicitor who will still have two years of his term in the next administration during which s/he can only be removed for cause.
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I agree - the Governor can be accountable to the people and the legislature - nt
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Wrong (nt)
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Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 1:16PM EST (link)We should mark this on the calendar Neil…;^)
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Neil Stevens (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 1:37PM EST (link)Something’s going on…
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You might want to see the doctor...;^)...nt
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One wonders who you're trying to persuade, USNJIMRET.
Moe Lane (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 6:42PM EST (link)It’s not my fault that one of the consequences of picking a ‘punish the Republican Party’ voting strategy is that it also rewards the Democrats.
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Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, May 18th at 7:37PM EST (link)take your pity party elsewhere.
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