You can almost *smell* the relief coming from this Salon Prevarigate piece…


…because now they have an acceptable devil figure to blame it all on. Via @vermontaigne (and Protein Wisdom):

Cheney’s torture trap for Democrats

[Note: Salon defines 'waterboarding' as 'torture' throughout this article. Please calibrate your semantic filters accordingly. - ML]

You might have thought getting torture back in the news would be a bad move for any Republican; after all, it was the Bush administration that authorized the torturing. But the last few days have shown Dick Cheney knew exactly what he was doing when he went on TV last week and started talking about “enhanced interrogation”: It was a masterstroke of bureaucratic warfare.

[snip multiple paragraphs that dance around the fact that Pelosi Knew All Along.]

Cheney, safely ensconced in his McLean, Va., mansion, must be chortling all the way to his cave every night. After three decades in the top levels of U.S. government, he knows better than most how to set his opponents against themselves.

You have to understand that this sort of thing is the product of a certain kind of mindset. Let’s say that you’re a person who has adopted a particular set of beliefs – for whatever reason – that you have come to depend on as being an integral part of why you consider yourself to be a good person. And let’s say that these beliefs have been reinforced and validated by certain outside individuals, through a series of deliberately provocative statements and actions. And let’s finally say that it becomes clear that those people have been lying to you with those statements and actions – and without them, the set of beliefs that you’re relying on now come into serious question. You have two options at this point. The first is to critically examine your beliefs, and be prepared to change them; the second is to find something else that would validate them.

Salon went with finding something else. They have, in fact, embraced anti-Cheneyism with a happy little zealot’s cry: for that particular form of self-delusion is marvelously unfalsifiable. Dick Cheney can do anything, you see! Start a war, end a war, manipulate the 2004 elections, raise and lower gas prices on a whim, squeeze oil from a stone, mire his opponents in scandals, possess personal death squads, topple governments, plot out exceptionally complex government conspiracies (and perfect cover-ups of same) in mere months; by this time next year he’ll be linked with the hemline cycle and why the Cubs didn’t win the World Series in 2009. Death itself will not stop a certain type from seeing his hand in everything*. Whatever flaws exist in the reasoning can now be neatly explained as Cheney Manipulated Things.

The idea that if Cheney is that demonically skilled as a manipulator, we wouldn’t have a scenario in the first place where a Democratic President was ducking questions about what the Democratic Speaker of the House knew and when she knew it, has not in fact been overlooked by folks like those at Salon. The idea was instead hit in the head with a shovel and locked in the basement while somebody went out back to dig a pit for the quicklime. You know. Deeper truth, and all that.

Moe Lane

*Do you think that I’m joking? Go read American Hero, which managed to blame the First Gulf War on Lee Atwater, even though he was bloody well dead at the time. Back then ‘everybody knew’ that Saddam and the Bushes were secret partners. Hollywood turned that book into Wag the Dog, by the way. Two Oscar nominations; admittedly, by the time it came out it was satirizing the Clinton administration instead of the Bush administration, but that’s Hollywood for you.

Crossposted to Moe Lane.


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I don't think Salon is going to scare Dick Cheney away

smagar (Diary) Saturday, May 16th at 10:37AM EST (link)

Bill Kristol wrote a full-throated defense of him in the Weekly Standard the other day. The David Frum/Meghan McCain/spineless Republican wing of our movement took their shot at trying to make him be quiet, and they failed.

Kristol makes a good point: Cheney has started a discussion on EIT that most media-whipped Republicans were too scared to engage in. And he’s winning!

Now, a month [after Cheney criticized the Obama administration for releasing the OLC memos on EIT], Pelosi is attacking career CIA officials for lying to Congress, and other Democrats are scrambling to distance themselves from her. Meanwhile, the Obama administration has pulled back on threats to prosecute Bush-era lawyers, reversed itself on releasing photos of alleged military abuse of prisoners, and embraced the use of military commissions to try captured terrorists. The administration now looks irresponsible when it lives up to candidate Obama’s rhetoric, and hypocritical when it vindicates Bush policies the candidate attacked.

Many Democratic leaders and pundits do not have good debating skills. They’ve been softened by years of sheltering within academia and by an MSM that agrees with them. When hit with hard questions, they often do poorly.

And, many of the Dems’ policy positions are not supported by a majority of the American people. Card Check? Cap-and-trade? Government-controlled health care?

Now, the Dems finally have the legislative majorities to do what they want—but many of those Dem legislators want to get reelected. So they can’t afford to make their constituents mad. And, once those constituents learn more about the slimy and cowardly things the Dems have done in the past—and want to do in the future—many of them are likely to get mad.

The Dems can’t win these debates…so their best option is to figure out a way to not have the debate in the first place.

They know the MSM won’t ask (and press) the tough questions unless it has to. First, the MSM is widely sympathetic to Democratic politics, and wants to see a longterm Democratic government. So, they’ll hesitate to push any stories that undermine that. (Remember how quickly the MSM dropped stories of Tony Rezko’s financing Obama’s house, or Obama’s deliberate disabling of anti-fraud protection in his online donation software?)

Secondly, the MSM fears America coming to realize that Obama is a phony. Once that dawns on Americans, they’ll turn on those who pushed that phony into power. The MSM is right at the front of that list.

If there’s going to be a debate that wounds Obama and the Dems, Republicans have to start it and press it. Dick Cheney knows that.

Salon is taking one last shot at getting weasely Republicans to goad Dick Cheney into silence. Meghan McCain couldn’t do it, David Frum couldn’t do it…maybe someone else can.

I doubt it. Dick Cheney isn’t Meghan McCain.

Bill Kristol writes that Cheney “made himself the Most Valuable Republican of the first four months of the Obama administration.”

“Horatius at Our Gate” is more like it.

“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)

 

Don't forget, there are several Cheneys who can handle themselves in a debate

smagar (Diary) Saturday, May 16th at 10:48AM EST (link)

I’m thinking of Liz Cheney, plus the Cheney daughters.

We cannot spare this family—they fight.

“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)

 

Wow

red4ever (Diary) Saturday, May 16th at 11:14AM EST (link)

He is good. I totally missed him up there behind Pelosi forcing her to come out and make all those press conferences digging herself in deeper. I stand in awe of the master.

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.
Dante

Who do you think taught Karl Rove all his dark moves?

janis (Diary) Saturday, May 16th at 4:34PM EST (link)

Cheney was the first Magnificent Bas***d.

 
 

Totally Brilliant, Moe.

papalee Saturday, May 16th at 1:53PM EST (link)

It is wonderful to see Cheney at work and made even better by having you explain it for those who don’t (or won’t) understand what he is doing.

 

myths and facts about Dick Cheney

kweiss01 Saturday, May 16th at 4:11PM EST (link)

here:
http://www.imao.us/index.php/2009/05/myths-and-facts-about-dick-cheney/

Seriously though, I too am becoming more and more impressed with Dick Cheney and his daughter, Liz, the more I see of them.

You too can use my sig... nt

mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, May 16th at 4:13PM EST (link)

Here is a fact about VP Dick Cheney....

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Saturday, May 16th at 4:13PM EST (link)

HE ROCKS!!! This man has more love of America in his little pinkie than the whole of the 69 million who voted for The Imitation Christ have collectively!

 
 

Of the things I like about Dick Cheney,

mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, May 16th at 4:17PM EST (link)

Since it looks like he has more than one pair, maybe

janis (Diary) Saturday, May 16th at 4:37PM EST (link)

he could loan some to some other R’s? Then he will have to explain what they are, what they’re for and the complete operating instructions.

5555^^^^^ nt

mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, May 16th at 5:03PM EST (link)
 
 

All those layers of Salon editors and fact-checkers...

furious (Diary) Saturday, May 16th at 7:13PM EST (link)

…and they let by a sentence like this: “Cheney, safely ensconced in his McLean, Va., mansion, must be chortling all the way to his cave every night.”

No wonder their stock isn’t worth the paper on which it’s printed.

–furious

“I find your lack of faith disturbing.” — Darth Vader

 

"esconced in his mansion,

johnt Saturday, May 16th at 8:57PM EST (link)

all the way to his cave.” Those two just don’t fit. But you can’t expect reason..
Yeah’ it’s hell when someone comes out and asks for the whole story, who threatens your pet hates, who demands that you think and ignores the NY Times.

Friends, we are witnessing the phenomenon of an immense group ot people going insane at roughly the same time, and all because of politics, the idolatry of the the State. The poor fools have nothing else and you can’t be sure where it will end or how bad it will get.

“a man’s admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him”. Tocqueville

The mansion/cave thing is easy to explain ...

SoulEspresso Sunday, May 17th at 1:10AM EST (link)

… when you realize that Cheney was the inspiration for Batman.

Well, maybe not, but it’s nice to think about.

 
 

Moe, Your Mojo's working

Warrior (Diary) Saturday, May 16th at 10:59PM EST (link)

This section…

“Let’s say that you’re a person who has adopted a particular set of beliefs – for whatever reason – that you have come to depend on as being an integral part of why you consider yourself to be a good person. And let’s say that these beliefs have been reinforced and validated by certain outside individuals, through a series of deliberately provocative statements and actions. And let’s finally say that it becomes clear that those people have been lying to you with those statements and actions – and without them, the set of beliefs that you’re relying on now come into serious question.”

…is practically a textbook definition of the psychological phenomenon known as “escalation of commitment” That is, once someone becomes heavily invested in an idea, a belief system, a theology or whatever, it becomes increasingly difficult for them to change their beliefs even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, e.g. every failed liberal program, policy and notion starting with “free love” in the ’60′s, abandoning the North after Vietnam in the ’70′s and all the way through today with nationalizing GM, and on to the future with attempts to nationalize healthcare… Pride, fear of humiliation, loss of self validation, esteem and worth — all contribute to the “aging hippie” syndrome. Deep down they know their beliefs are poopycock, but they have so blinded themselves with layers of self-delusion and self-righteousness that they would not change if God Almighty Himself infused them with the Devine Wisdom of the Ages…

This is one reason I am so enamored of David Horowitz. He was actually raised a red diaper baby, but when the truth was revealed to him, he was able to see it for what it was and not what he wanted it to be. So invested were his liberal friends that he has been shunned by them ever since…

And CONGRATULATIONS to Dick Cheney!!! He must be behind “The Republican Attack Machine” as well. Good on him…

“Racial criteria are irrational, irrelevant, [and] odious to our way of life.” — Thurgood Marshall for the NAACP Legal Defense Fund in the 1950 Supreme Court case of McLaurin v. Oklahoma

5! 5! nt

Danielle Davis (ocleverone) (Diary) Saturday, May 16th at 11:08PM EST (link)

To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it. — Margaret Thatcher

 
 

Well Moe the NY Slimes has picked up the Salon ball....

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Sunday, May 17th at 6:34AM EST (link)

and is running with….the the oldstream media circle jerk begin

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/17/opinion/17dowd.html?_r=2

 

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BronxRob Sunday, May 17th at 6:55AM EST (link)

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are you trying to be banned? -nt

Doc Holliday (Diary) Sunday, May 17th at 7:00AM EST (link)

Molon Labe!

Yes, he's trying to be banned.

Brian Hibbert (Diary) Sunday, May 17th at 7:03AM EST (link)

1 year, 6 months for 3 crude posts. What a fool.

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yeah Brian

Doc Holliday (Diary) Sunday, May 17th at 7:06AM EST (link)

looks like a lefty who signed up on a lark to watch us. Later he get’s drunk and can’t help but proceed with beclowning operations. Just my guess, I could be wrong.

Molon Labe!

That user name seemed familiar.

Brian Hibbert (Diary) Sunday, May 17th at 7:10AM EST (link)

I was expecting to see a boat load of posts. But just the 3.

I don’t understand the need to create these fake accounts and sit on them for nothing. If he was trying to be a Moby, it’s an epic fail.

Candidate for Trustee of Illinois Central College
Socialism doesn’t work. It looks nice on paper, but it’s been tried and it’s failed miserably every time (usually accompanied by widespread death and suffering).
Proud member of the V.R.W.C.

Take back our party!
Check out Unified Patriots

 
 
 
 
 

Dick Cheney at Washington Nationals game today

katesmith (Diary) Sunday, May 17th at 7:04PM EST (link)

Game v Phillies, the ap photographed Cheney in the stands. He’s apparently not so afraid that he has to hide in his alleged Virginia mansion.