So that becomes One dead, one injured in foiled robbery/rape/murder attempt in Georgia. Via Fausta:
College Student Shoots, Kills Home Invader
…Bailey said he thought it was the end of his life and the lives of the 10 people inside his apartment for a birthday party after two masked men with guns burst in through a patio door.“They just came in and separated the men from the women and said, ‘Give me your wallets and cell phones,’” said George Williams of the College Park Police Department.
Bailey said the gunmen started counting bullets. “The other guy asked how many (bullets) he had. He said he had enough,” said Bailey.
That’s when one student grabbed a gun out of a backpack and shot at the invader who was watching the men. The gunman ran out of the apartment.
The student then proceeded to shoot and kill the would-be rapist in the next room; unfortunately, a woman was also shot, but she is expected to recover fully. The cops are currently looking for the second gunman. Further comment unnecessary, except to note: when masked gunmen burst in your party, start robbing you, separate out the women to be raped, and start talking about how they have enough bullets, it is not unreasonable to follow that particular logic chain to its natural conclusion.
You would think that I would not have to write that, but I do. Alas.
Moe Lane
Crossposted to Moe Lane.
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But you see it MUST be considered a murder
bk (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 9:40AM EST (link)After all, there is no proof that some method other than
torturemurder would have solved the problem, regardless of how imminent the murderer believed a massacre might be.You're right. They should have waterboarded the would-be rapist-murderer first
Beaglescout (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 11:51AM EST (link)-nt-
“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.”
No, he should have followed the example of the zerO...
rcov092 (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 7:07PM EST (link)and made him a video inviting him to “talk without pre-conditions”.
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You're right, Beaglescout...
Amy Miller (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 7:12PM EST (link)…they could have first taken a “hard look” at rapings and beatings on college campuses, then commissioned a report on their findings.
Meanwhile, let the raping continue.
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~Scalia, J.
this will get no national news I am sure
Doc Holliday (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 10:03AM EST (link)only when the bad guy wins is it fit to print. And a college student with a gun? I thought we banned guns for college students, only high school dropouts should have guns.
Molon Labe!
Only place I'll see this,
Tanggor (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 1:05PM EST (link)besides here, is in my next issue of American Rifleman.
Too bad he didn’t nail ‘em both.
“It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it.” – George Washington
Obviously demonstrating the need for stricter gun control
Next93 (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 6:05PM EST (link)“Too bad he didn’t nail ‘em both”
If I lived in Georgia I’d be pressing for the state to provide unlimited practice range amunition.
THAT’S the kind of gun control we need more of!
Obama was The One in 2008.
He’ll be a BIGGER one in 2012.
I DO live in Georgia
youngsouthernconservative Thursday, May 7th at 10:33AM EST (link)Right here in the South, where in a certain town it is a law that homeowners MUST own a gun.
The government doesn’t need to provide ammo. It just needs to lift the restrictions on it. On ALL guns. Including fully automatic. Kills robbers faster. Of course, in the meantime, a .45 works pretty well.
If the full auto restrictions are ever lifted I'm getting one of these
Lammo (Diary) Thursday, May 7th at 2:17PM EST (link)http://www.strategypage.com/militaryforums/480-1938.aspx
Unfortnately, here in WA even with a Federal Class III license full autos are not allowed.
Don’t be so open minded that your brains fall out. (John Corapi, The Black Sheep Dog)
That thing's useless except for supporting ammo
Achance (Diary) Thursday, May 7th at 2:34PM EST (link)manufacturers and showing off at the range. It’s hard to hit anything smaller than the broad side of a barn with any automatic; automatic fire is good for firing into large concentrations of troops/zombies stupid enough to expose themselves or for keeping heads down and suppressing fire. That’s why most autos have a single shot or three shot switch, so you can actually hit something.
It’s a whole lot more likely that semi-autos and removable magazines will be banned than it is that the full-auto ban will be lifted. ‘Course, adultery is illegal in most states too; must be why nobody ever does it.
In Vino Veritas
I'm sure of that
Lammo (Diary) Thursday, May 7th at 2:59PM EST (link)but what’s wrong with supporting ammo manufacturers?
I just think it be one heck of a lot of fun to be able to put that much lead down range that fast.
For home defense I personally think there is much more deterrent effect in the sound of a shell being chambered in a pump action shotgun (note to self: go get that pump action shotgun before they are banned). I’ve lost count of the AR type magazines I’ve acquired since 11-08 and I have at least six for each of my semi-auto pistols.
Don’t be so open minded that your brains fall out. (John Corapi, The Black Sheep Dog)
I REALLY like my Mossberg 500 12 guage.
Achance (Diary) Thursday, May 7th at 3:51PM EST (link)It isn’t completely scary gun black since I got the marine version so I could use it as my boat gun for bear insurance. I put the Knoxx recoil suppressing stock on it to make it a little friendlier to my wife (me too!) and a foregrip with picatinny slots for a light. The Surefire foregrips with builtin LEDs are nice but they’re really proud of them! Still looking for a good sling for it.
And NOTHING will crystalize ones perceptions like the sound of a shell being jacked into one.
In Vino Veritas
Yahh I got a mossberg too
kyle8 (Diary) Friday, May 8th at 8:29AM EST (link)I got the riot gun, bought it back when Clinton took office since I figured they would be soon grabbing guns.
It’s not real accurate, but then again, It doesn’t have to be.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
That's why a shotgun is such a good SHTF gun;
Achance (Diary) Friday, May 8th at 10:51PM EST (link)close enough is good enough. When mine’s at home I actually keep it loaded with heavy birdshot. It’s lethal at home defense distances but doesn’t overpenetrate and tear up your house or shoot your neighbor. On the boat, it’s 3 inch shells and 00; there’s no such thing as overpenetration of a 1000 pound brown bear.
In Vino Veritas
nothing wrong Lammo
Doc Holliday (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 10:06PM EST (link)anyone who says it is not fun to “rock ‘n roll” has never done it. If you have not had the chance to fire many automatic weapons, then go for it, it is a blast. But don’t forget your American Express card
Molon Labe!
Umm
usrbinperl (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 9:22PM EST (link)You can hold some very tight groups with an MP5 or an M4 (the latter being somewhat harder to control)
There’s a reason why the MP5 is the CQB gold standard.
the irony is there really is no full auto ban, not even under Clinton
Doc Holliday (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 9:37PM EST (link)The libs banned semi-auto rifles, not fully auto rifles. Well, there is a ban on manufacture/importation for the civilian market but any law abiding citizen could own a fully automatic weapon if they get an NFA stamp for $200. I see no need for full-auto for any home defense situation, and they are a tremendous waste of money ammo-wise.
However, there are very real uses for fully automatic fire in standard infantry fire and maneuver. In fact, I think the three round burst restriction on the M16A2 was stupid. If the troops wasted ammo in ‘Nam, then train them better. Standard infantry tactics call for fully automatic fire when in contact with the enemy to attain fire superiority and allow the rear element to flank. There are also other uses such as final protective fire when a position threatened to be overrun.
The MP5 mention by someone else is probably the best none rimfire fully auto weapon in the accuracy department. But although it sounds strange, there are tactical situations where accuracy is not the preeminent requirement. But again, I have no desire for a fully auto weapon, been there, done that. These days every time it goes bang you spend 50 cents.
Molon Labe!
kowalski
Doc Holliday (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 9:38PM EST (link)the fully auto AK’s used by our heathen enemies are terribly inaccurate.
Molon Labe!
I have some video that I'm probably not supposed to have
Achance (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 9:49PM EST (link)of firefights in Southeastern Afghanistan when my youngest kid was there. Haji just came running and firing wildly. Nothing aimed just spitting out automatic fire, mostly AKs, but some heavier stuff. The Army just sat and coolly mowed them down. I have one where my kid is in his skivvies sucking down Red Bull and just burning up the barrel of a SAW with his buddies bringing ammo; one of the scariest things I’ve ever seen!
In Vino Veritas
lol, sweet achance, could you post it or would that be a non starter?
Doc Holliday (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 9:55PM EST (link)those AK’s with there 7.62 rounds and loose specs are very inaccurate. I was in the Army when we switched from Vietnam era stuff to Desert Storm stuff, so I got to fire the M60 and SAW. The SAW is a deadly weapon no doubt, but nothing sounds like an M60 responding to AK plinking. BTW, send your son my best, I keep our troops in my prayers, when they are in action and when they are home.
Molon Labe!
Right
usrbinperl (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 11:56PM EST (link)Only point I was trying to make is that in the CBQ world, when you’re trying to SOC qual 4 center mast and two in the head then the MP5 is your best friend.
However, that”s CBQ (read: 25-40 yds) not classic infantry fire and maneuver.
I agree with most achance says here
Doc Holliday (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 9:43PM EST (link)fully auto Glock= useless. Auto fire is used for suppression. however, the MP5 and even the UZI, in the hands of someone who can use it, is devastating in MOUT operations. Also, anyone who served from the ’60s to the 90′s knows how comforting the sound of an M60 can be.
Molon Labe!
Comforting to you, and very disconcerting to the other guy.
Achance (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 9:51PM EST (link)The American improved version of the MG 42 is a fine weapon. OK, that’s not fair, it is it’s own weapon, but the American designers learned a lot from the MG 42. It is a very distinctive and crystallizing sound.
In Vino Veritas
so true Achance, it is kind of like a Father responding to unrully kids -nt
Doc Holliday (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 10:00PM EST (link)nt
Molon Labe!
and we have to give the Germans credit
Doc Holliday (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 10:02PM EST (link)the MG 42, the first jet fighter, V2 rockets, working on a nuke. It is damn good we won when we did, or we might have lost
Molon Labe!
What?
Lammo (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 3:11PM EST (link)They didn’t dial 911 and wait an hour for police to show up to clean up the bodies?** A privately owned firearm in the hands of an individual was actually used to prevent greater harm than using it caused? I’m totally shocked. This person must be arrested and prosecuted for failing to allow himself to be victimized. He’s clearly in desparate need of re-education.
Sarcasm off.
Where will the defense fund be set up to help this hero against the inevitable suit from the families of the dead and wounded criminals?
** I am not, repeat, NOT knocking law enforcement. I work with them every day and have done so for nearly 22 years. They cannot be everywhere, nor would we want them to be. Just saying that this case proves the adage “Dial 911 and Die.”
Don’t be so open minded that your brains fall out. (John Corapi, The Black Sheep Dog)
When seconds count , the police are only minutes away
olsmithie (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 11:18PM EST (link)and unfortunately it will always be that way, no matter how hard they try.
God bless ‘em.
Regards
Unless they invent teleportation.
youngsouthernconservative Thursday, May 7th at 10:34AM EST (link)In which case I would just shoot the robber anyway.
What a shame the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence lost such a compelling tragedy
nessa (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 6:18PM EST (link)to promote their aganda!
Congratulations to the obviously right-wing extremist student and all his still living friends! Now that the DHS has him on their list the agents following him should be able to protect them next time.
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teh twitter
correction_ agenda
nessa (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 6:20PM EST (link)*note to self* spell check you idiot!
“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
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teh twitter
I think "aganda" is fine when talking about Brady & Co.
Lammo (Diary) Wednesday, May 6th at 6:42PM EST (link)They keep pushing to close the “Gun Show Loophole” which doesn’t exist and they keep harping on the discredited “a gun in the home is more likely to kill the owner than to be used to prevent a crime” and I’m sure they are all over the “90% of guns seized from Mexican drug lords are traced to the US” lie – - it seems perfectly reasonable to me to use a non-word to describe their fantasy world.
Don’t be so open minded that your brains fall out. (John Corapi, The Black Sheep Dog)
Recently
Warrior (Diary) Thursday, May 7th at 10:29AM EST (link)a young couple in Knoxville was abducted by gunmen, driven 5 miles away to a “bad” neighborhood, raped, tortured (not waterboarded) and murdered.
Critics now say the couple “asked for it” by shopping at a mall located “too close” to the crime ridden area.
So by that logic, these college kids were “asking for it” by having a loud, fun party which naturally attracted two of society’s “less fortunate” and forced them to attempt robbery, rape and murder.
It’s a wonderful new world we live in, isn’t it?
“Racial criteria are irrational, irrelevant, [and] odious to our way of life.” — Thurgood Marshall for the NAACP Legal Defense Fund in the 1950 Supreme Court case of McLaurin v. Oklahoma
Nationwide manhunt underway
Lammo (Diary) Thursday, May 7th at 2:12PM EST (link)for the robbers/rapists/killers from Georgia . . . no wait. Those guys were handled at the scene by an armed citizen. The manhunt is for the guy who killed a bookstore clerk at a college in Connecticut. I’ve heard about the CT shooting a half dozen times today on two different radio stations. Not a peep about yesterday’s incident of predator population reduction.
Don’t be so open minded that your brains fall out. (John Corapi, The Black Sheep Dog)
PS
Lammo (Diary) Thursday, May 7th at 7:42PM EST (link)Official response in Connecticut? Cower in your homes until we catch the bad man:
“MIDDLETOWN, Conn. – Wesleyan University students were told to stay in their dorms and the city’s only synagogue closed Thursday as police warned that the man wanted in the shooting death of a woman at a bookstore may be bent on killing other students and Jews.”
Link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090507/ap_on_re_us/us_wesleyan_shooting
Pathetic.
Don’t be so open minded that your brains fall out. (John Corapi, The Black Sheep Dog)
The best part
Wayne (Diary) Thursday, May 7th at 7:30PM EST (link)is, Calvin Lavant, the gunman who died, ran for his apartment and collapsed before he got there. One of the neighbors heard him asking someone to call the police. Guess they didn’t get there in time. Too Bad, So Sad. NOT!!!!!
Warrior, don’t you just love it, blame the victims, and I’m sure the ACLU has lined up to represent the perps. Wasn’t it 5 of them?
“Hell, these are Marines. Men like them held Guadalcanal, and took Iwo Jima, Baghdad ain’t s–t”. Maj. Gen. John F. Kelly, USMC, Deputy CG, First MEF
You NEVER, NEVER, NEVER actually need a gun,
UpLateAgain (Diary) Friday, May 8th at 6:22AM EST (link)Unless you need a gun, and then nothing else will do.
You never never never actually need a gun, until you need a gun, and then nothing else will do.
More guns, less crime
gonzo55 (Diary) Friday, May 8th at 7:34AM EST (link)Economist John Lott: “If those states without right?to?carry concealed gun provisions had adopted them in 1992, county? and state?level data indicate that approximately 1,500 murders would have been avoided yearly. Similarly, we predict that rapes would have declined by over 4,000, robbery by over 11,000, and aggravated assaults by over 60,000.”
I’d like to see how those 1,500 murder victims from last year feel about gun control. Of course, most of them are probably from liberal demographics (poor, uneducated, etc), so perhaps they would favor giving their killers stern talkings-to. But the data is the data. And if even the liberal university types believe we should encourage concealed carry…
“Facts are stubborn things” — Ronald Wilson Reagan
Property Rights and Gun Rights
alabamared (Diary) Friday, May 8th at 8:46AM EST (link)Are the two most important rights in the Constitution. The ability to control resources and defend those resources and one’s personal body are the only real source of power.
All of the other “rights” that the Left likes to talk about mean nothing without the power to actually defend those rights.
They do all the complaining, we do all the fighting. And they benefit from our hard work. Sigh.
Sadly, if the student's bullets
Flagstaff (Diary) Friday, May 8th at 2:17PM EST (link)hit the woman, he can probably be charged with a gun crime.
Too bad this heroic story won’t get the coverage the Virginia Tech killings received.
“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964
Maybe, but would any jury convict? nt
Vegas_Rick (Diary) Friday, May 8th at 9:40PM EST (link)“God is great, beer is good and people are crazy.”- Billy Currington
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.