When will you learn that you can’t twist the facts?
Facts are facts, Truths are truths.

Take off your rose colored galsses and do you own research and quit relying on trash like AP and / or McClatchy. in case you hadn’t noticed, their reputation is as bad as MSNBC’s.

Liz, if you happen to catch this, WELL DONE, My Lady. your kicked some serious liberal ass. She didn’t know what to do with herself. Did you happen th check the floor after the interview to see how the puddle was after that beat-down!!!

GOP, this is how you conduct yourself in the media.LEARN it well. You’v got two years to polish you act.

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I hope she reviews this video and sees just how idiotic she sounds! My dad was in the military, my brother was an officer in the military, and my son hopes to attend a military academy. Our own people – Americans – go through every single thing we did to these terrorists as part of their SERE training. I doubt that I would be willing to let my baby go off to the military if I thought this was “torture”. I’m sure it’s not a walk in the park – I’m sure it pushes the limits – but just as an athlete trains for a marathon, so must our military train. I guess if you didn’t train and tried to run a marathon, you could call it torture. But who would really believe you? Another observation – liberals are wimps.

A politician is lying what else is new. But when the media does not call the lie it can become the truth.

The MSM is a complete fraud. I am asking all Republicans and conservatives that you should debate and berate the MSM every chance you get. What I mean by this is if you go on Hardball call Matthews a complete fraud and an idiot, who cares he hates you anyway.

Everyone should ckeck out the “torture memo” debate between Nora Odonnell and Dick Cheney’s daughter, AWESOME (connect at Weekly Standard Blog).

The only thing I would change if I was on TV would be to add words like “Nora cannot believe you are this ignorant…this naive..this left wing”

I would call them on their bias make them fight back. Look what happened when an average guy at one of the Tea Parties challenged and called out that CNN reporter, I think she still is on holidays.

To repeat; HEY REPUBLICANS THE MSM HATES YOU FIGHT BACK AND TREAT THEM ACCORDINGLY!!!

Keep your cool, stick to the facts, don’t let the other one spin your words and facts. Nice job, Liz!

What a textbook, flawless kicking of a lefty behind, regardless of how perky it may be walking in Prada shoes. I am adding a “Cheney 2012″ bumper sticker to my car.

This should be required viewing for everyone.

So smart and calm~

I’m not linking to Daily Krap, because I just never do.

But it *is* funny. They go around crowing about what a beat-down Norah and her eunuch Lawrence O’Donnell (no relation) supposedly gave Liz.

Lawrence did not actually interview Liz, just gave the off-site commentary. And I know why. He wouldn’t dare try it in person.

Because in a cage match, Liz would abuse Lawrence like he was her prison b*tch.

She obviously paid attention to the discussions over dinner at the Cheney household; she reflects the best of both her father and mother. Both are skillful advocates and always calm and unflappable.

Add my vote to anything that provides Liz Cheney with a platform to advocate conservative issues.

In fact, we probably should first have her train as many of our ranks as possible in this fine art of interview and debate.

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For any who haven’t seen it…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJygJQNQHkw&feature=channel

The “William Wallace moment” is hysterical.

Hats off to Liz. Her composure and poise was way out of my league.

You know, the E.U. guy from Britain that took the conservative movement by storm by his tongue lashing of Mr. Brown. Well anyway, we’ve got a new star. WOW! Notice how she stiffened her spine, like a cobra, just before the questioning began. Moe is dead-on!

Norah says we should be a “beacon to the world,” I suppose we were on 9/11. The smoldering fires at ground zero were visible from outer space.

That’s what I’m talking about……

It’s amazing that we even have to cheer on one side. Notice how liberal our media has become that they feel they do not need to have another liberal there to present the other side.

Someone posted a video of Al Gore squirming after being challenged by Marsh Blackburn at a hearing on cap and trade. My liberal friends said he schooled her!

Talk about na na na na fingers in the ear I can’t hear you denial!

You have given me reason to smile today LIZ
. Where are the rest of you Senators and Congressman that know obama has been lying and you are afraid to speak out. Who will speak out when obama policies and untruths get us middle class hard working citizens killed?????????

And ask them why they don’t have those kind of stones.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97OTG5G0&show_article=1

I had no idea Liz Cheney was such an excellent debater. She made some excellent points. I wish she would have asked Nora if she supported the killing of 3 Somali Teen Pirates to save just ONE American life?

in the Palin Administration. or as suggested above, VP.

Seriously, she was Deputy Asst Sec for Near Eastern Affairs under Bush, she is especially experienced on Iran, she would be fantastic!

At least I’m pretty sure this is only the first part. I watched two last night but they were not from MSNBC. They were posted by someone else and linked at dailykos. The comments are disgusting but Liz Cheney (does she use her married name?) was brilliant throughout. At the end of the second one Nora said they’d be back to talk about something little McCain said about the former VP but I never found a part 3.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlI9KkQj3Do&feature=related

Someone said the release of the memos was an Obama administration’s declaration of war on the Bush administration. This is why I was so glad the former VP spoke up. They fight back. They know what they are talking about and actually meet the definition of “articulate.”

In any war, anytime, I am proud to be on the same side as the Cheneys, Dick, Lynne, and Liz!

…Mom, Big or L’il Sis, none of them give an inch to a liberal opponent (for which both Joe Lieberman and John Edward still bear the scars). None of them apologize for being who they are (see: “Michael Steele” and “D.L. Hughley”). None of them are embarassed to stand up for what they believe.

And that’s just the Cheney WOMEN. Dad’s a whole ‘nother irritable ol’bear.

Wish the current crop of senior Republicans (looking at YOU, Sen. McCain) had half the gumption the Cheney women do.

Obama is proving again that he can’t protect America. It was never his goal to protect America nor was it his communist-demcratic party’s objective. Obama and his hordes are aiding the terrorists. I think this mob wants to see America fall from leadership of the world and be subjected to the European United Nations one world government. I don’t even look at the dems as Americans anymore. They are a foreign occupation.

How come the republican congressman and candidates can’t speak like this? I always got the feeling during the debtes that the wrong people were running for office. Liz Cheney and Mark Victor Hansen have a better grasp of the facts and can deliver the punch.

Liz was correct, we have decades of experience with these same interrogation tools used during training thousands of our own military personnel. An appropriate line in the sand was drawn so that the interrogations never crossed over into the realm of torture.

BTW, terrorists are not entitled to protections under the Geneva Conventions. So the WWII argument is a non-starter. Both Japanese as well as American POW’s in WWII were entitled to those protections. That’s why there were prosecutions after the war.

Interesting that the ‘Bama fan club sees nothing wrong with executing three pirates, two of which were unarmed. But think that rough interrogations of three HVT’s was cruel and inhuman…

…waterboarding isn’t torture because liz cheney *says* it isn’t torture?

The reason most Republican spokesmen SUCK at debates and in interviews is because they don’t have the stones to challenge the premises of the questions. The allow the libs and the MSM radicals frame the question(s) and fight the war on THEIR turf.

Liz’s performance should be required viewing for every stinkin’ GOP leader and candidate for public office – you dismantle liberals by refusing to accept their cliched BS w/out challenging it, mock them (nicely) when they substitute news headlines for facts, and you totally change the battlefield on which you are fighting.

It can be done, oh wimpoid GOP establishment….but that will mean you actually have to BELIEVE what you say you do.

As Media Matters[*]… [They never listen, do they? I think that we can dispense with the apologist, don't you? Especially since he wasn't smart enough to master Reply to This anyway. - Moe Lane]

[PS: Not in Your Name, teddybrick. Not then. Not now. Not ever.]

[*Left to give you some idea of who did this guy's thinking for him.]

First it was Bachman vs Geitner. Now Liz Cheney, who gave a master class in how to dismember an MSM interview.

Today Sarah blasted TOTUS in the NYPost and basically told him that the game is on for 2010.

mirror that? Obowma has stuck the GOP with the bipartisonship meme.

Enough. Its time call him a liar to his face,

Our country is dying before our eyes and the GOP acts like there at a Polo match.

Simpering around barry will just buy him another 4 years.

Way to go Liz, that’s what we needed from the WH all those years.

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GOD she was GREAT!!!! she SMACKED that piece of crap down and OBTW any elected Republicans who read this diary THIS IS HOW YOU BEAT DOWN THE OLDSTREAM MEDIA!!!!!!!!

AWWWW YEEEEAH!

Sigh…if we could only get the males of the Republican Party to be as articulate, as strong and as enaging as Ms. C.

Liz has both Dick & Lynne Cheney’s toughness, let her keep on kicking the libs butt!

Yep, Liz didn’t take the gloves off, she didn’t bring them.

It sure was encouraging to listen to.

Ohhhh, I don’t knowwww.

The mainstream media has already picked that McCain girl as the republican spokeslib, just like they picked her dad.

Why don’t we just save everyone a lot of trouble and go with her instead?

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Ms Cheney should be making the rounds on all the networks. By far she makes the best case on this issue.

Well done Ms Cheney in terms of going into the lions den and going on the offensive to get several critical points across:
- this is NOT torture; it does not make sense to call it torture when we make our own undergo waterboarding as training
- 3 people have undergone waterboarding under the program; cmon now – even rational liberals can say that the harsh interrogation of 3 people who provided life saving intelligence does NOT make this much of a “program”
- on top of this, GWB admin went to great pains to brief both sides of the aisle with the boundaries under which these methods were to be used including a relatively brief period of time after 9/11

Bottom line this is not torture, it is not an ongoing program, and it was used on only 3 people under limited circumstances for a limited period of time – AND it worked (again saving lives)

That was obviously wholly unexpected.

We need to get Liz Cheney into a room with all of the clueless GOP leadership so she can teach them all how to have a spine with the leftist media.

with a Republican officeholder, I want to scream “Objection” at three quarters of the questions. Reporters constantly lead and ask questions that assume facts not in evidence and STUPID Repulicans try to mumble their way through explaining that, no, they haven’t stopped beating their wife because they never started beating her; the listener gets lost in your answer and his conclusion is that yes, you did beat your wife.

Just the most mimimal preparation for dealing with improperly formed questions should be enough for people who should be accomplished public speakers. Most administrative and trial advocates can coach lay witnesses well enough in a few minutes that they don’t usually get tripped up by the opposition, so a day or two of training for high powered politicians and press people should be adequate.

The funny thing about this is if you do a quick google search on this exchange – there are lefty blogs contending that Norah was the one who actually laid the “smackdown” on Liz. This just goes to show how both sides of the political spectrum enjoy separate realities, the left’s just more closely resembling fantasy.

In a clear indication that Norah has detached herself from reality, she claims that we cannot waterboard captives because we would not want these techniques used on our own soldiers if they were captured. If only we could ask our beheaded and mutilated soldiers if they would have preferred being waterboarded as opposed to being executed – alas we will never know.

Bottom line, the techniques we used on these captives were the same techniques that we historically and currently use on our own soldiers during survival training. The point Cheney was making, and O’Donnell missed, was how can we not define these techniques as torture when they are used on our own, but consider them torturous when used on someone else?

My favorite part of the exchange is where O’Donnell actually believes she has caught Cheney in a misstep by defending the fact that we had lawyers determine to what extent we could pressure the detainees before it constituted torture. But according to O’Donnell herself, she contends we violated the Geneva Convention, so I guess the interpretation of law should be left up to television anchors, and not lawyers. Next time our government tries to determine what actions fall within the confines of a law perhaps we should not seek the advice of those who are paid to advise, but instead give MSNBC a ring.

If I have said this once, I have said it a thousand times.
The 1949 Geneva Conventions were not attended by Iraq or Afghanistan. They did not sign or paricipate. This means that no matter what people think about the way we treat combatants vs. non (or those combatants in civilian clothes), it means that they can kill Nick Berg with a knife, they can hang bodies from bridges. And the laws of the US prevent us from that eye for an eye stuff, unless threat to life is maintained for ROE. An who the heck legislates how people read what is a threat or not.

O’donnell is another tool of the left who ignores the fact that all who read those memos are as complicit as she maintains Cheney is. Her ididotic statement as perused by her own reality, not fact, but feelings was that this info could have been attained another way and lives would still have been saved.

Woulda, coulda, shoulda, Norah. You’ll never know and it’s beating a dead horse.
It’s done, it’s over and Liz Cheney smacked you down. Go read what Porter Goss had to say at WaPo, I think.