Comments on: Democrats finally kill DC minority school program. http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/04/13/democrats-finally-kill-dc-minority-school-program/ Thu, 16 Feb 2012 22:47:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: itrytobenice http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/04/13/democrats-finally-kill-dc-minority-school-program/comment-page-1/#comment-13974 itrytobenice Tue, 14 Apr 2009 08:32:38 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=2323#comment-13974 http://digg.com/politics/Democrats_betray_minorities_and_education_reform http://digg.com/politics/Democrats_betray_minorities_and_education_reform

]]> By: itrytobenice http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/04/13/democrats-finally-kill-dc-minority-school-program/comment-page-1/#comment-13973 itrytobenice Tue, 14 Apr 2009 08:26:01 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=2323#comment-13973 It must be hard to be a black parent in DC who cares about your kids and their education, just to have the party you have worked so hard to support turn around and give your kids a boot on the neck. It must be hard to be a black parent in DC who cares about your kids and their education, just to have the party you have worked so hard to support turn around and give your kids a boot on the neck.

]]> By: smagar http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/04/13/democrats-finally-kill-dc-minority-school-program/comment-page-1/#comment-13970 smagar Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:28:10 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=2323#comment-13970 African-Americans overwhelmingly support this president. Let them deal with this. I know I should be worked up over this...but after twenty years of being called a racist for my Republican beliefs, my give-a-dang is busted. Sadly, it wouldn't surprise me if the majority of the Congressional Black Caucus, plus leading African-American groups, are willing to pitch these DC kids under the bus, in the interest of Barack Obama and Democratic politics. African-Americans overwhelmingly support this president. Let them deal with this.

I know I should be worked up over this…but after twenty years of being called a racist for my Republican beliefs, my give-a-dang is busted.

Sadly, it wouldn’t surprise me if the majority of the Congressional Black Caucus, plus leading African-American groups, are willing to pitch these DC kids under the bus, in the interest of Barack Obama and Democratic politics.

]]> By: Kyle-MI http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/04/13/democrats-finally-kill-dc-minority-school-program/comment-page-1/#comment-13967 Kyle-MI Tue, 14 Apr 2009 00:31:17 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=2323#comment-13967 If the GOP is serious about attracting more minority voters, they should be pushing this story with all their might. Besides good politics, it is also the right thing to do. If the GOP is serious about attracting more minority voters, they should be pushing this story with all their might. Besides good politics, it is also the right thing to do.

]]> By: 10ksnooker http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/04/13/democrats-finally-kill-dc-minority-school-program/comment-page-1/#comment-13966 10ksnooker Mon, 13 Apr 2009 23:36:20 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=2323#comment-13966 Hate black kids? Isn't that racism of the worst kind? Hate black kids? Isn’t that racism of the worst kind?

]]> By: E Pluribus Unum http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/04/13/democrats-finally-kill-dc-minority-school-program/comment-page-1/#comment-13965 E Pluribus Unum Mon, 13 Apr 2009 23:16:59 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=2323#comment-13965 By: trentabarton http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/04/13/democrats-finally-kill-dc-minority-school-program/comment-page-1/#comment-13963 trentabarton Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:48:40 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=2323#comment-13963 Mr. Coulson did a great job breaking down the numbers for the District of Columbia Public School and they are not very pretty. While his numbers are verified and supported by the independent data, his final per pupil expenditure(PPE) formula is a bit eschewed. When reporting the PPE figures, typically the PPE only includes the cost associated with the student education and therefore excludes the capital expenditures as a whole but it does include the debt servicing cost (monthly mortgage payments). This is similar to paying for your mortgage on a monthly basis instead of counting the entire mortgage each and every month. For example, let's say you have a 30 yr interest free mortgage for $100,000 (commonly known as a Senator Dodd special). You would record mortgage payment of $277.78 per month instead of $100,000. So the real PPE apples to apples is $16,822.83. If you count the yearly additional authorized funds which the DC council and/or Federal government appropriates, it rises to $18,461.41. However, the schools received a onetime funding that resulted in the PPE and supplements rising to $ 20,195.46. To reach the $24,600 you would have to include the entire capital budget in this year's budget. While we differ a bit on the PPE, where we agree is the PPE for the District of Columbia is the highest in the nation and achieves one of worst results. To compound the error, now the Senate and President Obama's administration has decided to relegate these Opportunity Scholarship students back to the same underperforming schools that their parents fought to leave. Somewhat ironic, Sidwell Friends has at least two fellow student of President Obama's children that would have to leave the school due to this callous decision. Canceling this successful program that many fought for over the past decade to create and now is achieving positive results is the purest form of power grab from the parents to the union. This is all about political paybacks which has nothing about education. I remember the unions being totally against this program and said the scholarships would fail and actually damage the entire school system. Well the Opportunity Scholarships have been in place for years now and as we predicted the positive results are quite impressive. The unions threatened retribution for those Congressional Members that voted for it but when it came to them actually doing something they could only achieve a whimpered impenitent response. Why a sitting Senator would succumb to these thug like tactics is beyond me except they are interested in helping the parents just their reelection campaigns. We have to hope that the Opportunity Scholarships get restored after the parents public uprising calling President Obama and Congressional Democrats to put children first again. Just my Thoughts- Trent A. Barton Trent Barton is a national recognized education reform advocate and formally served as Congressional Aide and ALEC National Education Task Force Director. Mr. Barton has been a leader in establishing Charter Schools throughout the US and private capital for scholarship funds for the past 15 years. Mr. Coulson did a great job breaking down the numbers for the District of Columbia Public School and they are not very pretty. While his numbers are verified and supported by the independent data, his final per pupil expenditure(PPE) formula is a bit eschewed. When reporting the PPE figures, typically the PPE only includes the cost associated with the student education and therefore excludes the capital expenditures as a whole but it does include the debt servicing cost (monthly mortgage payments). This is similar to paying for your mortgage on a monthly basis instead of counting the entire mortgage each and every month. For example, let’s say you have a 30 yr interest free mortgage for $100,000 (commonly known as a Senator Dodd special). You would record mortgage payment of $277.78 per month instead of $100,000. So the real PPE apples to apples is $16,822.83. If you count the yearly additional authorized funds which the DC council and/or Federal government appropriates, it rises to $18,461.41. However, the schools received a onetime funding that resulted in the PPE and supplements rising to $ 20,195.46. To reach the $24,600 you would have to include the entire capital budget in this year’s budget.

While we differ a bit on the PPE, where we agree is the PPE for the District of Columbia is the highest in the nation and achieves one of worst results. To compound the error, now the Senate and President Obama’s administration has decided to relegate these Opportunity Scholarship students back to the same underperforming schools that their parents fought to leave. Somewhat ironic, Sidwell Friends has at least two fellow student of President Obama’s children that would have to leave the school due to this callous decision. Canceling this successful program that many fought for over the past decade to create and now is achieving positive results is the purest form of power grab from the parents to the union. This is all about political paybacks which has nothing about education. I remember the unions being totally against this program and said the scholarships would fail and actually damage the entire school system. Well the Opportunity Scholarships have been in place for years now and as we predicted the positive results are quite impressive. The unions threatened retribution for those Congressional Members that voted for it but when it came to them actually doing something they could only achieve a whimpered impenitent response. Why a sitting Senator would succumb to these thug like tactics is beyond me except they are interested in helping the parents just their reelection campaigns. We have to hope that the Opportunity Scholarships get restored after the parents public uprising calling President Obama and Congressional Democrats to put children first again.

Just my Thoughts-
Trent A. Barton

Trent Barton is a national recognized education reform advocate and formally served as Congressional Aide and ALEC National Education Task Force Director. Mr. Barton has been a leader in establishing Charter Schools throughout the US and private capital for scholarship funds for the past 15 years.

]]> By: mbecker908 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/04/13/democrats-finally-kill-dc-minority-school-program/comment-page-1/#comment-13962 mbecker908 Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:43:07 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=2323#comment-13962 If you let those minority kids go to something other than public school, they'll expect to get into college. There's a huge cost to that. And then, add in the fact that they'll live a whole lot longer than their PS peers which will cause a bigger imbalance in social security payments. See, Durbin and his buddies are really looking out for us with this move. And anyway, who really gives a damn about a bunch of minority kids. Certainly not the people who control the Congress and the WH. If you let those minority kids go to something other than public school, they’ll expect to get into college. There’s a huge cost to that. And then, add in the fact that they’ll live a whole lot longer than their PS peers which will cause a bigger imbalance in social security payments.

See, Durbin and his buddies are really looking out for us with this move. And anyway, who really gives a damn about a bunch of minority kids. Certainly not the people who control the Congress and the WH.

]]> By: Lammo http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/04/13/democrats-finally-kill-dc-minority-school-program/comment-page-1/#comment-13961 Lammo Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:18:31 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=2323#comment-13961 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Serve_Man_(The_Twilight_Zone) :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Serve_Man_(The_Twilight_Zone)

:-)

]]> By: Michael DeWeese http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/04/13/democrats-finally-kill-dc-minority-school-program/comment-page-1/#comment-13960 Michael DeWeese Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:15:26 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=2323#comment-13960 3 to 5 million jobs created or saved achieved. Several Public School Teacher jobs saved from budgetary cuts and several created as student migration to superior private schools halted. 3 to 5 million jobs created or saved achieved. Several Public School Teacher jobs saved from budgetary cuts and several created as student migration to superior private schools halted.

]]> By: mom2oneson http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/04/13/democrats-finally-kill-dc-minority-school-program/comment-page-1/#comment-13959 mom2oneson Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:56:35 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=2323#comment-13959 to refuse to fill out the free lunch/income forms the next time they go around. That would get Mr Duncan's attention when they lose federal funding based in the parent's low income level. I wish I knew how the different funding worked in DC. I know here part of is based on 2 days per year. Someone that knows how what the different funding is based on could really make a good recommendation. to refuse to fill out the free lunch/income forms the next time they go around. That would get Mr Duncan’s attention when they lose federal funding based in the parent’s low income level.

I wish I knew how the different funding worked in DC. I know here part of is based on 2 days per year. Someone that knows how what the different funding is based on could really make a good recommendation.

]]> By: Jlerner http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/04/13/democrats-finally-kill-dc-minority-school-program/comment-page-1/#comment-13957 Jlerner Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:40:19 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=2323#comment-13957 it has gotten a lot of coverage in the Washington Post (Moe does link to an article there). They have been advocating for a voucher program for years in DC, and god bless her, it seems like Michelle Rhee is going to fight this one. I hope Colbert King (one of the better liberals out there) will continue to write about the plight of DC's students and will oppose this tooth and nail. He's been pretty good in the past about fighting the teachers union in DC, hopefully this trend will continue. it has gotten a lot of coverage in the Washington Post (Moe does link to an article there). They have been advocating for a voucher program for years in DC, and god bless her, it seems like Michelle Rhee is going to fight this one. I hope Colbert King (one of the better liberals out there) will continue to write about the plight of DC’s students and will oppose this tooth and nail. He’s been pretty good in the past about fighting the teachers union in DC, hopefully this trend will continue.

]]> By: mom2oneson http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/04/13/democrats-finally-kill-dc-minority-school-program/comment-page-1/#comment-13956 mom2oneson Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:38:40 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=2323#comment-13956 By: Amy Miller http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/04/13/democrats-finally-kill-dc-minority-school-program/comment-page-1/#comment-13955 Amy Miller Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:29:37 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=2323#comment-13955 If it gets any face time at all, they'll pull the "BUSH SUCKED MORE" card, blame everything on Dick Cheney, and somehow relate it to gun control and piracy. If it gets any face time at all, they’ll pull the “BUSH SUCKED MORE” card, blame everything on Dick Cheney, and somehow relate it to gun control and piracy.

]]> By: Next93 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/04/13/democrats-finally-kill-dc-minority-school-program/comment-page-1/#comment-13953 Next93 Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:23:28 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=2323#comment-13953 What odds am I offered that this will get air time on ABC, NBC, CBS, the NYT, or the WaPo? Anyone? Anyone? Beuller? Beuller? Beuller? What odds am I offered that this will get air time on ABC, NBC, CBS, the NYT, or the WaPo?

Anyone? Anyone? Beuller? Beuller? Beuller?

]]> By: Amy Miller http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/04/13/democrats-finally-kill-dc-minority-school-program/comment-page-1/#comment-13952 Amy Miller Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:21:37 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=2323#comment-13952 ...I wonder what they're playing at, here? They can't possibly ~just~ be thinking of the children, or playing politics.... I"ll be following this. At any rate, this is disgusting. I agree with EPU/David completely...this is beyond reprehensible. It's evil. …I wonder what they’re playing at, here? They can’t possibly ~just~ be thinking of the children, or playing politics…. I”ll be following this.

At any rate, this is disgusting. I agree with EPU/David completely…this is beyond reprehensible. It’s evil.

]]> By: E Pluribus Unum http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/04/13/democrats-finally-kill-dc-minority-school-program/comment-page-1/#comment-13950 E Pluribus Unum Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:12:51 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=2323#comment-13950 To their Final Reward, I should say. The better to keep them from dragging our kids along with them. To their Final Reward, I should say. The better to keep them from dragging our kids along with them.

]]> By: mikefisk http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/04/13/democrats-finally-kill-dc-minority-school-program/comment-page-1/#comment-13949 mikefisk Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:05:01 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=2323#comment-13949 They don't spend $12,500 per pupil per year in the DC public school system. <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2008/04/07/the-real-cost-of-public-schools/" rel="nofollow">As of the 07-08 school year, it's over $24,600 per pupil.</a> So the public schools get better results with roughly 30% of the funding. Wow. They don’t spend $12,500 per pupil per year in the DC public school system.

As of the 07-08 school year, it’s over $24,600 per pupil.

So the public schools get better results with roughly 30% of the funding. Wow.

]]> By: DONTREADONME http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/04/13/democrats-finally-kill-dc-minority-school-program/comment-page-1/#comment-13947 DONTREADONME Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:48:14 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=2323#comment-13947 but it will actualy cost more to send these children to public school than the private school (7500 vice 12500) but heh, these children should bring the scores of the other schools in DC up now so the teachers unions can get raises. Anyway, I never thought that we could stereotype liberal democrats but it most certainly seems like we can now. but it will actualy cost more to send these children to public school than the private school (7500 vice 12500) but heh, these children should bring the scores of the other schools in DC up now so the teachers unions can get raises.

Anyway, I never thought that we could stereotype liberal democrats but it most certainly seems like we can now.

]]> By: David Hinz http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/04/13/democrats-finally-kill-dc-minority-school-program/comment-page-1/#comment-13946 David Hinz Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:44:49 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=2323#comment-13946 Which is exactly why they are so intent upon paving the way for their eternity by creating it in advance on earth. Which is exactly why they are so intent upon paving the way for their eternity by creating it in advance on earth.

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