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Link to a lovely peace-loving religion news story.

Kenny Solomon (Diary) Saturday, March 14th at 9:23PM EST (link)

Steel yourself for this one………………..

India……. 8-year-old girl celebrating the day of Holi is shot by a Muslim

A few hundred kids and adults were ‘spraying colors’ in a joyous Hindu celebration. So of course, a Muslim “man” shot one of the kids for spraying him.

At least some of the crowd kicked his ass then turned him over to the cops.

Neither God nor any legitimate religion with human beings as members would remotely allow and laud the existence of an entire group of “people” who would do this to a child (or anyone else for that matter).

I need a drink.

Northern Ireland, August 2001

Next93 (Diary) Sunday, March 15th at 1:50AM EST (link)

As I recall, there was a news story just before 9/11 about some SOB who lobbed a bomb at a group of indigenous Irish (or as our press likes to state it, Catholic) little girls attempting to attend a schoold dominated by English-descended kids (read: Protestants). It all sounded very similar to our Little Rock High situation back in the 50′s.

So it’s not correct (as in “wrong”, not as in “politically offensive”) to say that animals like this one in India don’t happen in other religions.

Big difference between the east and the west: all of the Christian world recoiled in disgust after the bombing in Northern Ireland.

Compare and contrast that to the dancing in the streets throughout the Muslim world on 9/11.

Obama was The One in 2008.
He’ll be a BIGGER one in 2012.

 
 

The therapeutic benefits of Assassins Creed or Resident Evil 5...

DONTREADONME (Diary) Saturday, March 14th at 10:35PM EST (link)

Nothing like going around and killing religious zealots during the time of the Crusades or maybe lighting up some zombies to get all of that anger out of the system. Thirty something years old and I am playing video games on a Saturday night instead of drinking some beer with my buddies or spending the night with the wife. Oh, BTW the wife is playing PS3′s RS5 with me as the female heroine in Co-op play. Gee whiz, I have such a swell wife and my kids are going to love. Well, not so much with playing the Mature games until they are 18. Anyway, I am happy tonight to see that there is an open thread just in case I need to go over the deep end and rant and rave about some Global Warming Enthusiast. Anyway, back to RS5 and some zombie killing.

I have a question to all...

DONTREADONME (Diary) Saturday, March 14th at 11:18PM EST (link)

I have two people, both who make $90,000 per year. Person A bought a luxury 3000 sq. ft. single family home in 2006 for $525,000 with no down payment, 2 trust 80:20 loan. Person B bought the 1900 sq ft. townhouse in 2008 for $300,000 with 5% down and 95% mortgage with a for 30 year fixed interest loan. It is 2009 and Person A has $520,000 of principle left on his mortgage and Person B has $282,000 left of principle on his loan.

Now both Person A and Person B both work at the same company doing the same thing, working as electrical engineers. Both were laid off two months ago, the one that bought the $525,000 house has nothing left in savings and Person B has enough savings to pay the mortgage for the next 5 months. Person A will not be able to afford his mortgage payment next month and will most likely default on his mortgage in the next three months. Person A is facing foreclosure and Person B has some time before he will be in the same boat.

My question is the following, how is the Government going to justify stepping in on both loans to allow Person A to stay in his luxury single family home while the person that lived with in his means gets bailed out only after he completely depletes his savings and most likely retirement to stay in his smaller less luxurious home. Please help me here, Person B the next time he buys his home might want to buy much more than he can afford so that he can have the luxury house and be in the same predicament as Person A.

I am just saying. I could think of many scenarios like the one above and come up with situations where the person in the large house makes out after failure better than the guy who prepared for such inevitabilities.

Don't think you're asking the correct question

civil truth (Diary) Saturday, March 14th at 11:40PM EST (link)

If you frame the question wrong, you can’t expect to get a meaningful question.

Short answer: Government doesn’t have to justify anything it does, just as a man with a gun doesn’t have to justify how he treats someone unarmed. (Just another variant of Life isn’t fair; get over it.)

Alternatively…

The basic question you’re really asking here is to define the guiding principles for our life choices.

Most religious people would point to a God-inspired code of conduct/ethics to direct their decision making. Those who don’t subscribe to religions would define a code that comes from within them.

In any case, nobody can sensibly look at the actions of others to define one’s principles for life. And especially not derive them from anticipating irrational actions by others.

Now tactics: that is a different matter, but in that domain, ethical principles are secondary, acting to set boundaries; getting the job done is central.

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

http://www.gmsplace.com/

I was just trying to demonstrate absurdity...

DONTREADONME (Diary) Saturday, March 14th at 11:53PM EST (link)

of Government bailing out mortgages directly, judges reset loans and principle. oh, the responsible person (i.e. me, hypothetically) vs the irresponsible person (i.e. friend, hypothetically since none of this happened yet), when is Government who claims to be fair going to justify using money for the means of proping up one over the other. I know the whole Government thing is in control to make whatever decision they want but to demonstrate the blatant reward of irresponsibility vs. reward of responsibility can only mean devasting results and choices in the future. That is all.

Not the government's job

Next93 (Diary) Sunday, March 15th at 2:08AM EST (link)

As it happens, I’m pretty much in the situation that person B is in. I’m an electrical engineer who was laid off last month (however, since I hanen’t received a paycheck since mid-January and will probably NEVER see my back pay, I guess you could say I’ve been unemployed for 3 months). We’re looking at loosing the house in four or five months if I don’t find a job that pays enough. .

So, speaking as person B, my opinion is that even though the situation totally sucks, it’s NOT the government’s job to bail me out, reset my principal, or get involved in any way. I don’t know when we reached a point in our thinking that the government should come in and rectify every situation that sucks, but it’s the height of stupidity. There’s nothing in the constitution that says that I have a right to have the government solve my problems for me, or that I have an obligation to pay for the government solving other people’s problems.

I have a lot more faith in my ability to deal with it on my own than I have in the government. Our current president said on the campaign trail that “The American people deserve a government that has a better answer than ‘you’re on your own’.” I say that the American people deserve a government that says “the only mortgate you have to worry about paying is your own”.

Obama was The One in 2008.
He’ll be a BIGGER one in 2012.

Me, too!!

DefendUSA (Diary) Sunday, March 15th at 7:51AM EST (link)

And that could be me…person B, as well. And, “Uncle” shouldn’t bail out anyone. At this point, I may lose my house, no matter how fiscally responsible I was. We bought our house for 330,000 back in 1999 w10% down. We did some remodeling based on then home values and are at the same 80/20 and no equity left since housing prices have drastically fallen.

I have paid every bill I have through one unemployment and now face another with a twist. We had a business fail, and have more debt. A new job cost us separation and what was left of our retirement. (That turned out to be a good thing, given the market downturn.)

Though all that I still had savings that I absolutely would not spend. Moved the family, still making the mortgage and a Rent payment since house has not sold with the savings. Now, no job. Money will be gone by the end of summer.

Is it the government’s fault? Nope. I hope I don’t lose my house. I hope we find a job, soon. If that doesn’t happen, I suppose I can file for bankruptcy. Bad things happen to good people, but the ones who knew they shouldn’t own more than they could afford should be allowed to learn a hard lesson.

*starred thought*
To be a leader is to do the uncomfortable thing. Man up, Mr. President.

Lots of Fed jobs out there, have to hold your nose,

Achance (Diary) Sunday, March 15th at 10:22AM EST (link)

and spend some time on the spells and arcana they want, but they pay pretty well and you won’t work hard. Since the house is burning; keep warm!

Thinking about it myself; lots of jobs, not much work, plenty of time off, and I get to buck up my Social Security to modern wage levels. The only SS I’ve paid since ’87 was on self-employment earnings which was part-time and intermittant work. The State of Alaska doesn’t participate in SS. I’m very worried about the US nationalizing public retirement systems. Since mine is still pretty actuarily sound, they’d very much want to get their hands on it to take care of say, CA’s mess.

In Vino Veritas

 
 

I agree with you here...

DONTREADONME (Diary) Monday, March 16th at 12:21AM EST (link)

it is not the Governments job of bailing out people. Government steps in and says they are helping us, when all they are really doing is messing everything up in there effort to save people from their own decisions. I feel for all that are in that position at the current time, I may be in this situation in September, my DoD contract is up and may or may not be optioned.

I am there with you, I am confident about my ability to find a new job and pay the bills in a financial pinch, that is what we do. Lose a job and have bills to pay, you will be surprised how easily we will find a way to make the bills when we need to. That includes getting rid of all the luxury and live on a very, very tight budget. And in the end we are on our own, (no Government).

 
 
 
 
 
 

Central Missouri Upcoming Events and News

MORepublican (Diary) Saturday, March 14th at 10:56PM EST (link)

http://www.centralmoyrs.com/CMYRnewsletter.htm

If you live in Missouri, or just want to see some grassroots goings-on in the Show-Me State, please copy and paste the link into your browser (or click it if the link is live).

There is a column by Rep. Blaine Luetkemeyer (R-9th), a couple pictures from the Columbia, MO Tea Party, upcoming Republican area events, including area Lincoln Days gatherings and Young Republicans meetings, and an assortment of links, videos, etc.

If you know anyone in the area, please forward the link to them as well. The Central Missouri Young Republicans are on Facebook (join us there as well, please).

SPECIAL ALERT: By Sunday evening, there should be info up regarding a Tea Party set for April 14 in Jefferson City at the Capitol.

Oh yeah, one more thing – M-I-Z–Z-O-U! Go Tigers! Big 12 Champs!

“Free Government Requires Active Citizens”

 

Call Harry Reid and Leave a message.

bobojake (Diary) Saturday, March 14th at 11:33PM EST (link)

Harry Reid was on Rusty Humphries Talk Show Friday night and
Harry said Americans are sad they are not MAD.
It time to tell Harry we are Mad as Hell
Call Harry Reid 202 224 5556 in Washington DC and Let him know how Mad we are with the inconsiderate, incompetent obama and the SENATE

Got an email address?

Next93 (Diary) Sunday, March 15th at 2:10AM EST (link)

N/T

Obama was The One in 2008.
He’ll be a BIGGER one in 2012.

http://reid.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm

bobojake (Diary) Sunday, March 15th at 7:33AM EST (link)

http://reid.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm

This the gov site.
I usually call and leave a message because it only takes about 2 minutes and i guess it relieves some frustration. When Harrys’ voice from Seachlight anwers I punch 2 and leave a mess personally for Harry. punch 1 and you can be on hold waiting for staff where 2 gets you directly to message.

 
 

I'm as mad as he-- and I don't have to take it anymore.

Uma Richie (Diary) Sunday, March 15th at 9:08AM EST (link)

This about sums it up:

 
 

Have you seen this about abortion and organs

mom2oneson (Diary) Sunday, March 15th at 1:18AM EST (link)

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=15362

I don’t know if it’s for real article someone emaied it to me.

Warner has a Diary on that...

JLenardDetroit (Diary) Sunday, March 15th at 2:54AM EST (link)

Check out: RS: Warner Todd Huston: Sorry about your loss mom, now can we use part of your baby?

Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”


(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)

 
 

Sometime in the last few weeks feed for individual tags broke

Jeff Walden (Diary) Sunday, March 15th at 1:25AM EST (link)

I was going through the usual bit of feed reading and noticed no California posts had happened since around the beginning of the month. I’m pretty sure this was the feed URL that once worked (I deleted it from my list perhaps over-hastily assuming the new one would be easy to find):

http://www.redstate.com/tags/tag/california/feed/

What’s the new URL that’ll work again? I’m missing my local coverage, or at least as much as I can miss it in these recent dark days of kicking-problems-a-few-months-down-the-road.

Tweaks..

MetaCosm (Diary) Sunday, March 15th at 4:56AM EST (link)

We are currently tweaking how tags work, that should work by the time you read this (automatically redirect)

~ MetaCosm

 
 

I've figured out the Obama/Brown gift gaffe.

Next93 (Diary) Sunday, March 15th at 2:13AM EST (link)

I was thinking about the gift gaffe between the Obama’s and the British PM, and it suddenly ocurred to me that, being from Chicago, Obama was thinking that any “gifts” had to be exchanged by throwing them over the transom.

Obama was The One in 2008.
He’ll be a BIGGER one in 2012.

 

Week of April 15th...

MetaCosm (Diary) Sunday, March 15th at 4:58AM EST (link)

I think we should setup a filter on the site, that changes all instances of “Tax” to “Involuntary Contribution to the Government” — everywhere.

Comments, diaries, posts, everywhere.

~ MetaCosm

 

Today's tip...

bigbagofwind (Diary) Sunday, March 15th at 5:25AM EST (link)

is at Intellectual Redneck. No link here. You’ve got to be smart enough and trusting enough to look us up yourself.

 

Mortgage bailout questions

bk (Diary) Sunday, March 15th at 5:45AM EST (link)

Let’s say that I had a $200K mortgage and got bailed out so that I only have to repay $150K.

- Does that $50K count as imputed income or whatever the right term is? If not (as I suspect), then why not?

- If 10 years from now I can sell it for $225K, do I owe back the entire first $50K and then however the other $25K gets taxed? If not (as I suspect), then why not?

- Why doesn’t this get carried back a few more levels? If 25% is knocked off, then how about going back to the construction workers who made $10 an hour and telling them they owe $2.50/hr of that back since they were really overpaid by 1/3.

Yeah yeah I know that last question is silly – in order to show how silly the whole thing is – but the first two questions seem legit.

Mortgage bailout answers.

mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, March 15th at 10:06AM EST (link)

Under the law before cramdowns by Tax Courts came up, there were only two options. First, if your home was foreclosed and the lender lost money on it through resale you owed nothing to the IRS. If you did a short sale (selling for less than your loan amount) with the approval of the lender, you “could” get slapped with the equivalent of a 1099 for the shortage.

With respect to your questions today, nobody knows because there is no black letter law and no IRS regs covering the subject specifically. The question will be most likely settled in the courts over the next ten years or so. Given the tax records of the guy who is ultimately responsible for the IRS, I’m guessing there won’t be any taxes due nor will any money from the sale come back to either the government or the original lender.

That's what I'm guessing too

bk (Diary) Sunday, March 15th at 10:37AM EST (link)

So all us suckers who kept paying mortgages get hit yet again, as the people who bailed on them won’t face any consequences at all.

 
 
 

Wanna know what an honorable man sounds like...

mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, March 15th at 12:39PM EST (link)

With a hat tip to Powerline, from an interview by John King at CNN discussing Iran…

KING: When he was here, Admiral Mullen also said he agreed with the IAEA report that says Iran now has enough nuclear material, enough fissile material to produce a bomb. He says he agrees with that. What should President Obama do if that’s the case?

CHENEY: Well, you’ve got to find ways, I think, to avoid having Iran develop an inventory of nuclear weapons. We’ve talked about this for years. We worked it aggressively through the international community and with a lot of our friends in Europe…

KING: You were not always happy with that, especially at the end of the administration.

CHENEY: I was not always happy with that.

KING: You think your president invested too much in the European diplomacy?

CHENEY: Well, I can’t say that. It was a choice he made. And…

KING: But it was not your choice? It would not have been your choice?

CHENEY: I supported what he did. I supported his policies. And I got to argue my case with him. The circumstances now, though, are that we still have an Iran that I believe is pursuing nuclear weapons. What they’ve done, I think, as best I can tell — I’m not reading the intelligence reports anymore like I did before January — is they produced a fair amount of low enriched uranium, the kind that you would use for a power plant. That’s the hardest step to get to. Once you have got low enriched uranium, it’s relatively simple to change it to highly enriched uranium, and that’s the last step that’s needed before you have got fissile material for a weapon. So I’m not sure exactly where they are at this point, but I am confident of what their objective is, and I don’t think that’s changed.

Highlight is mine.

I really wish the ticket had been Cheney/Bush.

And the guys at Powerline hit the bottom line right on the money.

The contrast between Cheney’s lucidity and the babbling brook who now serves as Vice President is painful.

Read the whole article, it’s a great piece about a great man.

I did read it, Mike, and you are exactly correct.

janis (Diary) Sunday, March 15th at 12:59PM EST (link)

It’s mind-boggling, but utterly typical, that Cheney is doing the work that President Bush SHOULD HAVE DONE ALL ALONG. Dick Cheney is saying the right things about the right topics.The George W. Bush Presidential Library will need to have an animatronic Cheney to defend Bush’s policies, because I can’t envision that there will be any papers put front and center that will feature W doing so.

 

Cheney Has Brass Balls

Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Sunday, March 15th at 1:52PM EST (link)

That whole interview was stellar. Smacking Obama around like a mackeral in a seal tank. No wonder the other side calls him Darth Vader.

 
 

Cheney/Jeb... I'm in. nt

phxg (Diary) Sunday, March 15th at 12:58PM EST (link)

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. –Aristotle