A POINT OF ORDER is made during floor proceedings to assert that the rules of procedure are being violated.

A point of order halts proceedings while the presiding officer rules on whether or not it is valid.

In the Senate, the chair’s ruling may be appealed by any Senator. The Senate votes on the appeal and the chair has been frequently overturned.

In the House tradition, appeals are also possible, but rarely entered and almost never succeed.

which seems to me would play out as

  • A POINT OF ORDER is made during floor proceedings
      to assert that the rules of procedure are being violated.
      → A Republican raises a "Point of Order"

  • A point of order halts proceedings while the presiding officer
      rules on whether or not it is valid.
      → Biden rules no

  • In the Senate, the chair’s ruling may be appealed by any Senator.
      → A Republican would appeal

  • The Senate votes on the appeal
      → The vote to overturn Biden comes no where near the 60 affirmative votes necessary.

Someone tell me that I’m wrong.

Reminder to self…always, always question the context! I had unwittingly accepted that it only would take 50 senate votes to pass. Even if other conservative sites aren’t doing it.

Thank you, barry915barry, for providing me with a lesson and a reminder of the value of conservative skepticism!

if they vote in favor of it, find some way to get rid of them, primary specter and figure out how to get rid of the Maine sisters. They are just undermining our message.

To all three of you Senators in the Gang of 3 – do you think ACORN will get out the vote for you when reelection comes up? I don’t know possibly if you vote like a democrat maybe they would but I doubt it. Why is ACORN being funded? Remember those pesky little federal investigations into VOTER FRAUD by this sham of a group!!!

Last but not least Senators please consider this – what you worked on to get taken out is now rumored to have been put back in. In a sane world I would ask you to read the bill and consider your vote being you were USED by Obama/Pelosi/Reid but there is a big problem – not many people are going to be able to look at the bill before they vote – I hear about 4% of all of Congress will have that opportunity – so take chance, be a fool, send your Country down a path of hardship so that you can have $$$ sent to your two states and help with your personal political power but please remember this too – this will backfire on you and already have as far as the democrats and you will be challenged when reelection comes up if you choose the selfish route and not the route that is best for the Country. I hope someone gets our comments to you. I hope you consider this and remember why you wanted to go to D.C. in the first place and why you chose to be a Republican – obviously you have forgotten why you went and forgotten that you are Republicans even if in name only. I pray you stop this and let people see what Pelosi and Reid have added to this mess.

See Congress Matters: http://is.gd/iYt2

I hope the hyper link works. It makes for some amazingly dull reading. Enjoy!

Gregg’s presence or absence is irrelevant. The number of “NO” votes doesn’t matter in a cloture vote: there must be 60 votes to shut off debate and schedule the final vote. Without Kennedy, the defecting Republicans are key. They must be enticed to vote FOR the package – if they even abstain it is as good as a “NO” vote.

As a Christian, I believe in redemption. Snowe, Collins, and Specter have the chance; it is up to them to take it.

America is slowly beginning to sober up and wonder, “We elected WHO, again?”