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		<title>By: JLenardDetroit</title>
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		<dc:creator>JLenardDetroit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>then you got it.... I know I state the obvious....

They will, no doubt, use the same Computer Models to pad Democrat areas as they do for Climate Modeling to prove (lol) Global Warming ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>then you got it&#8230;. I know I state the obvious&#8230;.</p>
<p>They will, no doubt, use the same Computer Models to pad Democrat areas as they do for Climate Modeling to prove (lol) Global Warming &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: steveegg</title>
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		<dc:creator>steveegg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just did some back-of-the-spreadsheet numbers using the 2000 and 2008 Census Bureau estimates, and that is the projected difference between South Carolina picking up a House seat/Electoral College vote and Oregon picking up a House seat/Electoral College vote.  Shockingly (at least in the Louis Renault sense), South Carolina, and thus the Republicans, were in the drivers&#039; seat prior to the change, and now Oregon and the Democrats are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just did some back-of-the-spreadsheet numbers using the 2000 and 2008 Census Bureau estimates, and that is the projected difference between South Carolina picking up a House seat/Electoral College vote and Oregon picking up a House seat/Electoral College vote.  Shockingly (at least in the Louis Renault sense), South Carolina, and thus the Republicans, were in the drivers&#8217; seat prior to the change, and now Oregon and the Democrats are.</p>
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		<title>By: char</title>
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		<dc:creator>char</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 00:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe he can convince courts to use census data for redistricting, but it will be clear to all that the emperor has no clothes to people who actually use this data for things in the real world.  Too many people do to much math and research with census data.  Too many projections of population loss would be amiss.  It would be clear to all that something was totally wrong.  Maybe he can get a left leaning court appointee to sign off on say Michigan not having population loss but to everyone else it would be obvious that the books had been cooked.  This still scares the hell out of me that he would try something like this.  This is a bald faced attempt to hold onto house seats that would be moving to the south from places like CA, NY, MI, PA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe he can convince courts to use census data for redistricting, but it will be clear to all that the emperor has no clothes to people who actually use this data for things in the real world.  Too many people do to much math and research with census data.  Too many projections of population loss would be amiss.  It would be clear to all that something was totally wrong.  Maybe he can get a left leaning court appointee to sign off on say Michigan not having population loss but to everyone else it would be obvious that the books had been cooked.  This still scares the hell out of me that he would try something like this.  This is a bald faced attempt to hold onto house seats that would be moving to the south from places like CA, NY, MI, PA.</p>
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		<title>By: scarlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>scarlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 00:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just a thought.</description>
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		<title>By: tfolsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>tfolsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 23:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s be clear about the incentives to &quot;cook&quot; the Census. Why is it worth BHO&#039;s time to interfere?

First, by overstating minorities, homeless, (illegal) immigrants, etc. BHO ensures that disproportionate federal grant funds continue to flow to Dem strongholds on the coasts, in the northeast and the upper midwest. Many of the most important federal dollars are allocated by population, or by targeted subgroups within the overall population.

Second, by overstating the population in the northeast and upper midwest -- mostly blue states, as we know -- BHO might forestall the loss of Congressional seats in the redistricting that follows each decennial Census.  Without BHO&#039;s probable fraud, seats would almost certainly be lost in states like Ohio, Pennsylvania and New York...and gained in Texas, Arizona or other red states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be clear about the incentives to &#8220;cook&#8221; the Census. Why is it worth BHO&#8217;s time to interfere?</p>
<p>First, by overstating minorities, homeless, (illegal) immigrants, etc. BHO ensures that disproportionate federal grant funds continue to flow to Dem strongholds on the coasts, in the northeast and the upper midwest. Many of the most important federal dollars are allocated by population, or by targeted subgroups within the overall population.</p>
<p>Second, by overstating the population in the northeast and upper midwest &#8212; mostly blue states, as we know &#8212; BHO might forestall the loss of Congressional seats in the redistricting that follows each decennial Census.  Without BHO&#8217;s probable fraud, seats would almost certainly be lost in states like Ohio, Pennsylvania and New York&#8230;and gained in Texas, Arizona or other red states.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod_Patrick</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 22:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Vladimir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vladimir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 22:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...on the Roster of the Utah Jazz&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;on the Roster of the Utah Jazz&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: eschristian</title>
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		<dc:creator>eschristian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just imagine when ACORN gets involved!!!

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=17910 
 
&#039;Constitution is stupid,&#039; argues Census worker
Michigan family decries abuse by &#039;Cens-less&#039; Bureau employee
&quot;I was appalled at his belligerence. I felt as if I were under attack,&quot; Carey told WND. &quot;It&#039;s sad and scary that an apparently educated young American representing our government could show such contempt for our Constitution. Think of the countless men who died defending those ideals. It&#039;s sick.&quot;

But it gets even more scary how in 2000 this article looked into the future to 2009 with Obama in charge:

&quot;What scared me about the whole incident was how totally indoctrinated this kid was,&quot; reflected Balogh. &quot;This is the same type of person who would think nothing of going door-to-door confiscating firearms if instructed. It was a chilling experience.&quot;
and
&quot;At first, he tried to convince us that all of these intrusive questions were outlined in the Constitution,&quot; she added. &quot;If we had been at my house, I could have pulled out my copy of the Constitution and asked him to show me where it states that the federal government has the right to know how many bathrooms I have, or what time my husband leaves for work in the morning.&quot;

The census is about representatives but also TAX $$$!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just imagine when ACORN gets involved!!!</p>
<p>http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=17910 </p>
<p>&#8216;Constitution is stupid,&#8217; argues Census worker<br />
Michigan family decries abuse by &#8216;Cens-less&#8217; Bureau employee<br />
&#8220;I was appalled at his belligerence. I felt as if I were under attack,&#8221; Carey told WND. &#8220;It&#8217;s sad and scary that an apparently educated young American representing our government could show such contempt for our Constitution. Think of the countless men who died defending those ideals. It&#8217;s sick.&#8221;</p>
<p>But it gets even more scary how in 2000 this article looked into the future to 2009 with Obama in charge:</p>
<p>&#8220;What scared me about the whole incident was how totally indoctrinated this kid was,&#8221; reflected Balogh. &#8220;This is the same type of person who would think nothing of going door-to-door confiscating firearms if instructed. It was a chilling experience.&#8221;<br />
and<br />
&#8220;At first, he tried to convince us that all of these intrusive questions were outlined in the Constitution,&#8221; she added. &#8220;If we had been at my house, I could have pulled out my copy of the Constitution and asked him to show me where it states that the federal government has the right to know how many bathrooms I have, or what time my husband leaves for work in the morning.&#8221;</p>
<p>The census is about representatives but also TAX $$$!!!</p>
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		<title>By: HappyBunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>HappyBunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.freefever.com/hi5/hi5graphics/posters/hi5posters-169.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot;&gt;

You should read it before you comment on it.  Or comment on it in places where people haven&#039;t read it.  Like Dkos, HuffPo or any Democratic forum.

Jerk.</description>
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<p>You should read it before you comment on it.  Or comment on it in places where people haven&#8217;t read it.  Like Dkos, HuffPo or any Democratic forum.</p>
<p>Jerk.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eschristian</title>
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		<dc:creator>eschristian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>n/t</description>
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		<title>By: Moe Lane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moe Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting email address, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting email address, too.</p>
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		<title>By: smitch61</title>
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		<dc:creator>smitch61</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is exactly why acorn is and will continue to be an issue.. The constitution states the census bureau will be overseen by the commerce dept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is exactly why acorn is and will continue to be an issue.. The constitution states the census bureau will be overseen by the commerce dept.</p>
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		<title>By: char</title>
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		<dc:creator>char</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They will use ACORN members wherever possible to conduct the census.  I&#039;d doubt that they can mess this up, statistically it would be far too easy to spot.  Scary as hell that the Obama administration wants to control this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They will use ACORN members wherever possible to conduct the census.  I&#8217;d doubt that they can mess this up, statistically it would be far too easy to spot.  Scary as hell that the Obama administration wants to control this.</p>
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		<title>By: EagleWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>EagleWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Dems are cementing their majority with this (gerrymandering), the unions (card check) and the environmental lobby(etc.). 

Let&#039;s be honest, Obama is a fast talking Chicago politician.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dems are cementing their majority with this (gerrymandering), the unions (card check) and the environmental lobby(etc.). </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s be honest, Obama is a fast talking Chicago politician.</p>
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		<title>By: izoneguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>izoneguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He cannot do this.</description>
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		<title>By: char</title>
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		<dc:creator>char</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The census is an institution enshrined in the constitution.  On the plus side, if they mess this up it will be easy to spot the differences and will be a HUGE embarrassment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The census is an institution enshrined in the constitution.  On the plus side, if they mess this up it will be easy to spot the differences and will be a HUGE embarrassment.</p>
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		<title>By: David Hinz</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Hinz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ACORN sponsored voter registration fraud
 that added thousands of John Smiths, Bob
 Jeffersons and Frank Johnsons to the voter rolls
Will now provide names to the census bureau. This
Will provide positive proof that they exist. One fraud 
Washes the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ACORN sponsored voter registration fraud<br />
 that added thousands of John Smiths, Bob<br />
 Jeffersons and Frank Johnsons to the voter rolls<br />
Will now provide names to the census bureau. This<br />
Will provide positive proof that they exist. One fraud<br />
Washes the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 15:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: itrytobenice</title>
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		<dc:creator>itrytobenice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 15:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for statistical analysis are over for now.  Maybe the 2020 census can go back to facts rather than impressions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for statistical analysis are over for now.  Maybe the 2020 census can go back to facts rather than impressions.</p>
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