Comments on: Rendition and The Doug Feith conference call.

By: Moe Lane

Moe Lane — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:41:01 +0000

Nobody need ever know that you voted for a pro-torture administration.

Now scram. This is a website for decent people.

By: senorninja

senorninja — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:30:27 +0000

apparently you missed the crucial distinction (and all the media reports noting it) between “rendition” (in which we return someone to their country of origin as long as they have no threat of harm from that state) and extraordinary rendition (in which we fulfill your “24″ neocon fantasies by returning them knowing they will be tortured).

In simple english you might understand: obama’s policy is absolutely and exactly what he said it would be in the campaign and the only thing “tortured” here is your logic and the only thing “extraordinary” is your foolishness

By: icbm

icbm — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:51:07 +0000

to our president, and to the Three Musqueteers in the Senate who saw us through to victory.

I don’t think we will ever see a victory parade, which is a calamity for the nation and especially for the troops. We deserve to celebrate our achievement, especially because after prosecuting the war wrong for several years we refused to retreat and instead grasped hold of victory and hoisted ourselves up.

We lost a lot by not fighting the war correctly from the start. Above all, we failed to deal strongly with Iran, partly because we felt that we did not have the capacity and, even more, the political will to reckon with them.

But we still fought the right war, and we are winning it – or perhaps have won it. The hard, long work of building a nation is what confronts us now – and there are many reasons to believe that the Iraqis and we together will fully succeed.

(These comments were inspired by Moe’s remark at the end of his post: “Even if you’re the sort who hates the neoconservatives for being right on Iraq when you were so comprehensively wrong.”)

By: Neil Stevens

Neil Stevens — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 04:01:26 +0000

Because closing Guantanamo Bay’s camp was more important to them than keeping A-rabs from getting tortured.

By: GreyCloak

GreyCloak — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 03:44:25 +0000

Yemen and Pakistan (even Britain and Australia) may have freed some of our former detainees (and several, at last report, had returned to their formers ways). But why not let other countries deal with terrorists in their own ways:

Saudi Arabia beheaded 16 Kuwaiti Shiites by sword in public today in the Islamic holy city of Mecca in connection with bombings and other terrorism during the annual Muslim pilgrimage in July.
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The executed Kuwaitis were part of a group of 29 men accused of terrorism during the pilgrimage. … Nine of the men were acquitted; four others received long prison sentences and 1,000 to 1,500 lashes of the whip.

–New York Times, 9/22/89