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		<title>By: JTaylor</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/02/01/obama-embraces-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-10331</link>
		<dc:creator>JTaylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, -- you NOW realize it is necessary in the war on terror?

Nice to see that you are also agreeing that we are in fact in a WAR.  That is a good first step back to reality.

Now if you would only realize that detention at GITMO at least provided detainees with decent treatment.

Are you so naive to not understand what happens in &quot;Secret&quot; detention.

What is proper criteria?  

You trust this administration?  What to keep files up to date?  The file keepers in this administration are the same as those from the last.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, &#8212; you NOW realize it is necessary in the war on terror?</p>
<p>Nice to see that you are also agreeing that we are in fact in a WAR.  That is a good first step back to reality.</p>
<p>Now if you would only realize that detention at GITMO at least provided detainees with decent treatment.</p>
<p>Are you so naive to not understand what happens in &#8220;Secret&#8221; detention.</p>
<p>What is proper criteria?  </p>
<p>You trust this administration?  What to keep files up to date?  The file keepers in this administration are the same as those from the last.</p>
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		<title>By: Moe Lane</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/02/01/obama-embraces-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-10329</link>
		<dc:creator>Moe Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 12:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...on my other site have been pretty funny.  They&#039;ve yet to twig to the concept that showing a reaction just tells me that I stung &#039;em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;on my other site have been pretty funny.  They&#8217;ve yet to twig to the concept that showing a reaction just tells me that I stung &#8216;em.</p>
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		<title>By: DefendUSA</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/02/01/obama-embraces-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-10328</link>
		<dc:creator>DefendUSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 12:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Oh my gosh, Now that Obama is President, I feel like I can breathe.&quot;

or, &quot;it&#039;s so great to be an American, now.&quot;

or, &quot;You&#039;ve got to give Obama a cha-ance. Stop calling him Jimmy Carter 2.&quot;

Pick a lefty, any lefty.

Oh how they hate the truth and spin it so their boy, The COW can come out smelling like a rose. 

In 2005, here is what was written about extraordinary rendition:

&quot;The current policy traces its roots to the administration of former President Bill Clinton. Following the attacks of September 11, 2001, however, what had been a limited program expanded dramatically, with some experts estimating that 150 foreign nationals have been victims of rendition in the last few years alone. Foreign nationals suspected of terrorism have been transported to detention and interrogation facilities in Jordan, Iraq, Egypt, Diego Garcia, Afghanistan, Guantánamo, and elsewhere. In the words of former CIA agent Robert Baer: &quot;If you want a serious interrogation, you send a prisoner to Jordan. If you want them to be tortured, you send them to Syria. If you want someone to disappear -- never to see them again -- you send them to Egypt.&quot; 

 Well, what do you suppose expanding that policy really  means, leftist idiots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Oh my gosh, Now that Obama is President, I feel like I can breathe.&#8221;</p>
<p>or, &#8220;it&#8217;s so great to be an American, now.&#8221;</p>
<p>or, &#8220;You&#8217;ve got to give Obama a cha-ance. Stop calling him Jimmy Carter 2.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pick a lefty, any lefty.</p>
<p>Oh how they hate the truth and spin it so their boy, The COW can come out smelling like a rose. </p>
<p>In 2005, here is what was written about extraordinary rendition:</p>
<p>&#8220;The current policy traces its roots to the administration of former President Bill Clinton. Following the attacks of September 11, 2001, however, what had been a limited program expanded dramatically, with some experts estimating that 150 foreign nationals have been victims of rendition in the last few years alone. Foreign nationals suspected of terrorism have been transported to detention and interrogation facilities in Jordan, Iraq, Egypt, Diego Garcia, Afghanistan, Guantánamo, and elsewhere. In the words of former CIA agent Robert Baer: &#8220;If you want a serious interrogation, you send a prisoner to Jordan. If you want them to be tortured, you send them to Syria. If you want someone to disappear &#8212; never to see them again &#8212; you send them to Egypt.&#8221; </p>
<p> Well, what do you suppose expanding that policy really  means, leftist idiots?</p>
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		<title>By: JustLeaveMeAlone</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/02/01/obama-embraces-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-10313</link>
		<dc:creator>JustLeaveMeAlone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 00:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You really ought to get a clue before you post idiotic and ignorant tripe. Rendition is the practice of shipping off &quot;enemy combatants&quot; to nations that have no problem with torture and letting them do it for us.  

Think Mubarak&#039;s prisons in Egypt, for example. They make Gitmo look like Club Med.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really ought to get a clue before you post idiotic and ignorant tripe. Rendition is the practice of shipping off &#8220;enemy combatants&#8221; to nations that have no problem with torture and letting them do it for us.  </p>
<p>Think Mubarak&#8217;s prisons in Egypt, for example. They make Gitmo look like Club Med.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack_Savage</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/02/01/obama-embraces-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-10308</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack_Savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 23:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just perfect.

And for the record, with the expansion of the CIA&#039;s role in this war, looks like Obama is making sure rendition is going to be waterboading, Gitmo and Abu Gharib all rolled into one. No wonder the courageous decision to do away with the three and keep the one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just perfect.</p>
<p>And for the record, with the expansion of the CIA&#8217;s role in this war, looks like Obama is making sure rendition is going to be waterboading, Gitmo and Abu Gharib all rolled into one. No wonder the courageous decision to do away with the three and keep the one.</p>
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		<title>By: USNJIMRET</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/02/01/obama-embraces-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-10303</link>
		<dc:creator>USNJIMRET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 22:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>their very own form of &quot;logic&quot; into the mobius strip pretzel needed to call Obama &#039;rendition&#039; acceptable when Bush &quot;rendition&quot; was a war crime!
Truly unbelievable.
And scary as hell when one assumes that these same &quot;people&quot; vote!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>their very own form of &#8220;logic&#8221; into the mobius strip pretzel needed to call Obama &#8216;rendition&#8217; acceptable when Bush &#8220;rendition&#8221; was a war crime!<br />
Truly unbelievable.<br />
And scary as hell when one assumes that these same &#8220;people&#8221; vote!</p>
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		<title>By: bs</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/02/01/obama-embraces-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-10302</link>
		<dc:creator>bs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 22:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this would be it.

Nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this would be it.</p>
<p>Nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Leopard1996</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/02/01/obama-embraces-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-10294</link>
		<dc:creator>Leopard1996</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You people will find someway to say it&#039;s Bush&#039;s fault, and give Obama a pass. Even if it happened a year into Obama&#039;s presidency.  

Real Simple, you sir are an utter ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people will find someway to say it&#8217;s Bush&#8217;s fault, and give Obama a pass. Even if it happened a year into Obama&#8217;s presidency.  </p>
<p>Real Simple, you sir are an utter ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Leopard1996</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/02/01/obama-embraces-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-10295</link>
		<dc:creator>Leopard1996</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You people will find someway to say it&#039;s Bush&#039;s fault, and give Obama a pass. Even if it happened a year into Obama&#039;s presidency.  

Real Simple, you sir are an utter ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people will find someway to say it&#8217;s Bush&#8217;s fault, and give Obama a pass. Even if it happened a year into Obama&#8217;s presidency.  </p>
<p>Real Simple, you sir are an utter ass.</p>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/02/01/obama-embraces-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-10293</link>
		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he refers used to be called, if I&#039;m not mistaken, &quot;freedom fighters&quot;, &quot;innocent civilians&quot; or &quot;the resistance.&quot;  This is the first time a lefty has referred to them correctly as terrorist.

Obama must have given them permission to use these terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he refers used to be called, if I&#8217;m not mistaken, &#8220;freedom fighters&#8221;, &#8220;innocent civilians&#8221; or &#8220;the resistance.&#8221;  This is the first time a lefty has referred to them correctly as terrorist.</p>
<p>Obama must have given them permission to use these terms.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack_Savage</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/02/01/obama-embraces-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-10292</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack_Savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you talking about the dead on the streets of Chicago and New York in the past seven years? Because your side hasn&#039;t demonstrated one whit of respect for the brave warriors in our armed forces, and speak of their deaths only when you can stand on their bodies to score a political point.

Oh wait a second, you ARE trying to score a political point, so it must be the warriors in Iraq and Afghanistan you are talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you talking about the dead on the streets of Chicago and New York in the past seven years? Because your side hasn&#8217;t demonstrated one whit of respect for the brave warriors in our armed forces, and speak of their deaths only when you can stand on their bodies to score a political point.</p>
<p>Oh wait a second, you ARE trying to score a political point, so it must be the warriors in Iraq and Afghanistan you are talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Moe Lane</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/02/01/obama-embraces-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-10291</link>
		<dc:creator>Moe Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the more they pound the tables and shout, the less excuse they have to say &quot;I was never told,&quot;

You were told.

Now get the hell out of here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the more they pound the tables and shout, the less excuse they have to say &#8220;I was never told,&#8221;</p>
<p>You were told.</p>
<p>Now get the hell out of here.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack_Savage</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/02/01/obama-embraces-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-10290</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack_Savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep writing that crap until you believe it. Maybe you and the other Obamabots can have a meet-up and work your story out, cause you&#039;re doing a really bad job of &#039;splainin so far, Lucy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep writing that crap until you believe it. Maybe you and the other Obamabots can have a meet-up and work your story out, cause you&#8217;re doing a really bad job of &#8216;splainin so far, Lucy.</p>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/02/01/obama-embraces-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-10289</link>
		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if we get hit in the first year of Obama&#039;s reign, I fully expect that he will indeed be to blame for weakening our position of strength in the world.  He&#039;s already done a fine job of that in less than two weeks on the job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if we get hit in the first year of Obama&#8217;s reign, I fully expect that he will indeed be to blame for weakening our position of strength in the world.  He&#8217;s already done a fine job of that in less than two weeks on the job.</p>
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		<title>By: HappyBunny</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/02/01/obama-embraces-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-10288</link>
		<dc:creator>HappyBunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/02/01/obama-embraces-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-10287</link>
		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And rendition results in terrorists being taken to countries that DO support torture and I don&#039;t mean waterboarding.  So if Obama allow rendition, then he is a willing and knowing accomplice to the practice of torture.

You might want to check the facts yourself.  And if you continue to drive on the center line, you&#039;re gonna get hit from both of the other lanes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And rendition results in terrorists being taken to countries that DO support torture and I don&#8217;t mean waterboarding.  So if Obama allow rendition, then he is a willing and knowing accomplice to the practice of torture.</p>
<p>You might want to check the facts yourself.  And if you continue to drive on the center line, you&#8217;re gonna get hit from both of the other lanes.</p>
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		<title>By: centerisbest</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/02/01/obama-embraces-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-10286</link>
		<dc:creator>centerisbest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baloney!!!  Just a reminder.  HE WAS PRESIDENT ON 9/11..  Do you think, if God forbid we are attacked in the first year of Obama&#039;s Presidency that he would get  credit for keeping us safe?  In addition, what about the close to 5 thousand brave warriors who have died?  The majority of whom were killed bye, you guessed it..  Terrorists!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baloney!!!  Just a reminder.  HE WAS PRESIDENT ON 9/11..  Do you think, if God forbid we are attacked in the first year of Obama&#8217;s Presidency that he would get  credit for keeping us safe?  In addition, what about the close to 5 thousand brave warriors who have died?  The majority of whom were killed bye, you guessed it..  Terrorists!</p>
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		<title>By: Jack_Savage</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/02/01/obama-embraces-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-10285</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack_Savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is getting better by the minute:

&quot;As a liberal I can say right now that I realize that secret detention is a necessity in the war on terror and I trust the current administration to set up a proper criteria for special cases. &quot;

I am laughing so hard I am barely able to breathe, and I am copying and forwarding this comment to everyone I know. Truly one for the ages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is getting better by the minute:</p>
<p>&#8220;As a liberal I can say right now that I realize that secret detention is a necessity in the war on terror and I trust the current administration to set up a proper criteria for special cases. &#8221;</p>
<p>I am laughing so hard I am barely able to breathe, and I am copying and forwarding this comment to everyone I know. Truly one for the ages.</p>
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		<title>By: centerisbest</title>
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		<dc:creator>centerisbest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rendition means capturing a suspected terrorist on foreign soil.  It has nothing to do with torture at all.  You might want to check the facts before using a headline that is blatantly false.  One other point on torture.  According to the Pentagon, enhanced interrogation ended in 2003.  If that is the case, why have we captured/killed so many terrorists since then?  Because according to you, torture is the only thing that works.  Despite the numerous experts who claim otherwise.  Among them former interrogators, as well as a slew of ex-senior Officers, many of whom are Repubs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rendition means capturing a suspected terrorist on foreign soil.  It has nothing to do with torture at all.  You might want to check the facts before using a headline that is blatantly false.  One other point on torture.  According to the Pentagon, enhanced interrogation ended in 2003.  If that is the case, why have we captured/killed so many terrorists since then?  Because according to you, torture is the only thing that works.  Despite the numerous experts who claim otherwise.  Among them former interrogators, as well as a slew of ex-senior Officers, many of whom are Repubs.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Secret detention is not the equivalent of torture, unless your making some sort of moral equivalence&quot;.  All along, we have been told that it was.  Now it isn&#039;t?  How convenient for your conscience.  
And Achance, I think that oxygen thief would also fit in I support&#039;s case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Secret detention is not the equivalent of torture, unless your making some sort of moral equivalence&#8221;.  All along, we have been told that it was.  Now it isn&#8217;t?  How convenient for your conscience.<br />
And Achance, I think that oxygen thief would also fit in I support&#8217;s case.</p>
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