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	<title>Comments on: Yes, Mr. President.  You won.  How&#8217;s your debt bill coming along?</title>
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		<title>By: Magic2171</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/01/30/yes-mr-president-you-won-hows-your-debt-bill-coming-along/comment-page-1/#comment-10146</link>
		<dc:creator>Magic2171</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never expect to see a liberal follow a logical sequence, that would confuse them and then they would be the same as the peons that they hate. They follow the tortured path to prove to themselves that they are superior and the elite of society. This ploy is to see how much noise they need to make to get the sheeple to follow, are they still seeing the rainbows and unicorns or will the “One” have to get out the fairy dust to blind them again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never expect to see a liberal follow a logical sequence, that would confuse them and then they would be the same as the peons that they hate. They follow the tortured path to prove to themselves that they are superior and the elite of society. This ploy is to see how much noise they need to make to get the sheeple to follow, are they still seeing the rainbows and unicorns or will the “One” have to get out the fairy dust to blind them again.</p>
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		<title>By: Moe Lane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moe Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...need the money now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;need the money now?</p>
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		<title>By: ss396</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/01/30/yes-mr-president-you-won-hows-your-debt-bill-coming-along/comment-page-1/#comment-10144</link>
		<dc:creator>ss396</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He got drawn into a pissing match with Gov. Palin during the campaign, too, which should have been &quot;below his pay grade&quot;.  Sheesh, he is so easy to bait. 

I&#039;ve noted how he cannot stand criticism.  The more he runs around trying to squelch it, the more he is going to have to run around trying to squelch it.  It would be a lot of fun to get him running in circles, spending his whole time doing that, if the international consequences were not so grave.  Our domestic, Federalist structure could handle the distraction, even the absence of the Executive for quite awhile.  

He thinks that he has inherited a mess from President Bush?  I dread to contemplate the mess that his successor will inherit from him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He got drawn into a pissing match with Gov. Palin during the campaign, too, which should have been &#8220;below his pay grade&#8221;.  Sheesh, he is so easy to bait. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noted how he cannot stand criticism.  The more he runs around trying to squelch it, the more he is going to have to run around trying to squelch it.  It would be a lot of fun to get him running in circles, spending his whole time doing that, if the international consequences were not so grave.  Our domestic, Federalist structure could handle the distraction, even the absence of the Executive for quite awhile.  </p>
<p>He thinks that he has inherited a mess from President Bush?  I dread to contemplate the mess that his successor will inherit from him.</p>
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		<title>By: wennejunk</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/01/30/yes-mr-president-you-won-hows-your-debt-bill-coming-along/comment-page-1/#comment-10142</link>
		<dc:creator>wennejunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more idealist ones think it will work, but the smarter ones know it wont work.  

And they don&#039;t care, in fact they are counting on the misery increasing.

What it will do is cement their status in the eyes of their core supporters and attract new supporters from the masses of unemployed that get money handed to them as they continue to struggle to make ends meet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more idealist ones think it will work, but the smarter ones know it wont work.  </p>
<p>And they don&#8217;t care, in fact they are counting on the misery increasing.</p>
<p>What it will do is cement their status in the eyes of their core supporters and attract new supporters from the masses of unemployed that get money handed to them as they continue to struggle to make ends meet.</p>
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		<title>By: Lammo</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/01/30/yes-mr-president-you-won-hows-your-debt-bill-coming-along/comment-page-1/#comment-10141</link>
		<dc:creator>Lammo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>trying to make this a no text but I get an error that says you must enter a comment.  Putting n/t in the comment box seems like typing &quot;This page intentionally left blank.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>trying to make this a no text but I get an error that says you must enter a comment.  Putting n/t in the comment box seems like typing &#8220;This page intentionally left blank.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: scarlos</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/01/30/yes-mr-president-you-won-hows-your-debt-bill-coming-along/comment-page-1/#comment-10140</link>
		<dc:creator>scarlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally favor the approach the private sector is using right now, namely shed wasteful spending and try to cut back everywhere.  If we can cut back on spending now, then that will bode well for when the crisis ends and suddenly we have a surplus (which can either be invested back into the economy again via tax cuts or be dedicated to reducing the deficit).

After all, what is the point of spending 700 Billion in order to prevent the fiscal market from collapsing just to run it dry borrowing like a madman?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally favor the approach the private sector is using right now, namely shed wasteful spending and try to cut back everywhere.  If we can cut back on spending now, then that will bode well for when the crisis ends and suddenly we have a surplus (which can either be invested back into the economy again via tax cuts or be dedicated to reducing the deficit).</p>
<p>After all, what is the point of spending 700 Billion in order to prevent the fiscal market from collapsing just to run it dry borrowing like a madman?</p>
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		<title>By: DoodadPro</title>
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		<dc:creator>DoodadPro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 8-year old daughter got a homework assignment, which is to write The One a letter about what she wants him to do for the country.

The first words out of her mouth were, &quot;I should tell him not to kill babies before they are born.&quot;

I said that might not go over too well with her liberal NYC school friends.

She then said, &quot;I think he shouldn&#039;t raise taxes.&quot;

I said that her friends might not understand that one either.

So I told her to write this:  &quot;Please do not make the government too big by spending too much money.  I and my friends do not want to be paying for wasted money when we grow up.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 8-year old daughter got a homework assignment, which is to write The One a letter about what she wants him to do for the country.</p>
<p>The first words out of her mouth were, &#8220;I should tell him not to kill babies before they are born.&#8221;</p>
<p>I said that might not go over too well with her liberal NYC school friends.</p>
<p>She then said, &#8220;I think he shouldn&#8217;t raise taxes.&#8221;</p>
<p>I said that her friends might not understand that one either.</p>
<p>So I told her to write this:  &#8220;Please do not make the government too big by spending too much money.  I and my friends do not want to be paying for wasted money when we grow up.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Adjoran</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/01/30/yes-mr-president-you-won-hows-your-debt-bill-coming-along/comment-page-1/#comment-10138</link>
		<dc:creator>Adjoran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this problem is based on a severe tightening of credit markets, how is it possible to solve a &quot;crisis&quot; of supply of credit by the government borrowing a couple trillion dollars.  Doesn&#039;t that actually dry up available credit further?

It makes no sense at all . . . no wonder Democrats flock to it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this problem is based on a severe tightening of credit markets, how is it possible to solve a &#8220;crisis&#8221; of supply of credit by the government borrowing a couple trillion dollars.  Doesn&#8217;t that actually dry up available credit further?</p>
<p>It makes no sense at all . . . no wonder Democrats flock to it!</p>
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		<title>By: Adjoran</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/01/30/yes-mr-president-you-won-hows-your-debt-bill-coming-along/comment-page-1/#comment-10137</link>
		<dc:creator>Adjoran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for someone to explain to me why the 75-95% (depending on how it&#039;s figured) of the &quot;stimulus&quot; spending which won&#039;t be spent until 2011 or thereafter should not simply go through the regular appropriations process.  

There is plenty of time for staff to research, committee hearings, and etc. to determine which initiatives are worthwhile and which are not.  So why the urgency to pass the entire package in one fell swoop?

The only possible reasons I can deduce are that Democrats understand most of their proposed spending cannot withstand normal scrutiny (even such as it is in the Congress), and that they understand the recession is bound to end eventually and hope to use this package to gain credit for &#039;saving the country&#039; amongst people stupid enough to consider voting for them in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for someone to explain to me why the 75-95% (depending on how it&#8217;s figured) of the &#8220;stimulus&#8221; spending which won&#8217;t be spent until 2011 or thereafter should not simply go through the regular appropriations process.  </p>
<p>There is plenty of time for staff to research, committee hearings, and etc. to determine which initiatives are worthwhile and which are not.  So why the urgency to pass the entire package in one fell swoop?</p>
<p>The only possible reasons I can deduce are that Democrats understand most of their proposed spending cannot withstand normal scrutiny (even such as it is in the Congress), and that they understand the recession is bound to end eventually and hope to use this package to gain credit for &#8216;saving the country&#8217; amongst people stupid enough to consider voting for them in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: scarlos</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/01/30/yes-mr-president-you-won-hows-your-debt-bill-coming-along/comment-page-1/#comment-10136</link>
		<dc:creator>scarlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only reason they have to want &quot;Bi-partisan&quot; support in passing this bill is to deflect blame if it fails.

Which brings up an interesting question, why are they even pushing a bill that would cost hundreds of Billions of dollars if they are not completely convinced that it will succeed?

If I were them and I thought that this bill was going to create 4 Million jobs out of nothing more than a Congressional resolution, than I would want to make sure no Republicans voted for it.  Why let them take credit when it &quot;succeeds&quot; when you can use it against them in the next round of Congressional Elections?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only reason they have to want &#8220;Bi-partisan&#8221; support in passing this bill is to deflect blame if it fails.</p>
<p>Which brings up an interesting question, why are they even pushing a bill that would cost hundreds of Billions of dollars if they are not completely convinced that it will succeed?</p>
<p>If I were them and I thought that this bill was going to create 4 Million jobs out of nothing more than a Congressional resolution, than I would want to make sure no Republicans voted for it.  Why let them take credit when it &#8220;succeeds&#8221; when you can use it against them in the next round of Congressional Elections?</p>
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		<title>By: 6eorge Jetson</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/01/30/yes-mr-president-you-won-hows-your-debt-bill-coming-along/comment-page-1/#comment-10135</link>
		<dc:creator>6eorge Jetson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 6eorge Jetson</title>
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		<dc:creator>6eorge Jetson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I won!&quot;

Now, darn it, do your victory dance!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I won!&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, darn it, do your victory dance!</p>
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		<title>By: jonreagan</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/01/30/yes-mr-president-you-won-hows-your-debt-bill-coming-along/comment-page-1/#comment-10133</link>
		<dc:creator>jonreagan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last night&#039;s House vote on the so-called stimulus was huge.....kudos to the House GOP Leadership, as well as the 12 Dems who crossed over.

I didn&#039;t think we&#039;d get to say &quot;I told you so&quot; just nine days after Obama was installed, but it&#039;s happening. As you point out, the key is that public support for this bill has been crumbling all week, once people began to realize that it&#039;s just the same old Democrat grab-bag of goodies and garbage. Watching Pelosi on Sunday with Stephanopolous---- trying to defend the inclusion of millions of dollars for contraceptives funding---I had a feeling that this thing would be Obama-Biden&#039;s worst nightmare. 

Another one of those fun moments came today, watching &quot;truthless Joe&quot; being interviewed by John Harwood of CNBC. Biden looked white as a sheet, and was feebly trying to assure us that &quot;the bill is definitely going to be changed, for sure&quot;.....yeah, Joe, you finally got one right. The bill might even be killed.

And in the meantime, the &quot;President&quot; has allowed himself to be drawn into a pissing match with a talk radio personality---one that will bury him given half a chance.  I knew that Obama was going to fold---just didn&#039;t think that it was going to happen this quickly. He has told us that we are in the &quot;greatest crisis since the Great Depression&quot;, but he and his cast of thousands have totally muffed their first major legislation to deal with it.....legislation which was originally promised to be on his desk by innauguration day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night&#8217;s House vote on the so-called stimulus was huge&#8230;..kudos to the House GOP Leadership, as well as the 12 Dems who crossed over.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t think we&#8217;d get to say &#8220;I told you so&#8221; just nine days after Obama was installed, but it&#8217;s happening. As you point out, the key is that public support for this bill has been crumbling all week, once people began to realize that it&#8217;s just the same old Democrat grab-bag of goodies and garbage. Watching Pelosi on Sunday with Stephanopolous&#8212;- trying to defend the inclusion of millions of dollars for contraceptives funding&#8212;I had a feeling that this thing would be Obama-Biden&#8217;s worst nightmare. </p>
<p>Another one of those fun moments came today, watching &#8220;truthless Joe&#8221; being interviewed by John Harwood of CNBC. Biden looked white as a sheet, and was feebly trying to assure us that &#8220;the bill is definitely going to be changed, for sure&#8221;&#8230;..yeah, Joe, you finally got one right. The bill might even be killed.</p>
<p>And in the meantime, the &#8220;President&#8221; has allowed himself to be drawn into a pissing match with a talk radio personality&#8212;one that will bury him given half a chance.  I knew that Obama was going to fold&#8212;just didn&#8217;t think that it was going to happen this quickly. He has told us that we are in the &#8220;greatest crisis since the Great Depression&#8221;, but he and his cast of thousands have totally muffed their first major legislation to deal with it&#8230;..legislation which was originally promised to be on his desk by innauguration day.</p>
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		<title>By: AKSteveB</title>
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		<dc:creator>AKSteveB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Independents and even a fair number of dems HATE this thing.</description>
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		<title>By: Hera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Dems can pass their &quot;stimulus&quot; bill without any GOP support that was clear after the vote in the House. So why all the hand wringing over Republicans not voting for their bill? What the Dems and Obama need Republicans for is to provide political cover since they can no longer hide behind George Bush.The Dems will take all the credit if the bill is a success it will only become &quot;bipartisan&quot; if it fails. They wanted all the power so let them take all the blame when the Obama &quot;stimulus&quot; bill fails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dems can pass their &#8220;stimulus&#8221; bill without any GOP support that was clear after the vote in the House. So why all the hand wringing over Republicans not voting for their bill? What the Dems and Obama need Republicans for is to provide political cover since they can no longer hide behind George Bush.The Dems will take all the credit if the bill is a success it will only become &#8220;bipartisan&#8221; if it fails. They wanted all the power so let them take all the blame when the Obama &#8220;stimulus&#8221; bill fails.</p>
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		<title>By: scottbomb</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/01/30/yes-mr-president-you-won-hows-your-debt-bill-coming-along/comment-page-1/#comment-10130</link>
		<dc:creator>scottbomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What conservative PAC is countering with their own ad?

Anybody?

Beuller?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What conservative PAC is countering with their own ad?</p>
<p>Anybody?</p>
<p>Beuller?</p>
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		<title>By: scottbomb</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/01/30/yes-mr-president-you-won-hows-your-debt-bill-coming-along/comment-page-1/#comment-10129</link>
		<dc:creator>scottbomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hit the a bad key combination by accident and  darn thing posted. That&#039;s not what I inteded to write.</description>
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		<title>By: scottbomb</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/01/30/yes-mr-president-you-won-hows-your-debt-bill-coming-along/comment-page-1/#comment-10128</link>
		<dc:creator>scottbomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Pelosi-Reid-Obama Axis of Evil.&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: bobojake</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobojake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and now obama has sent out his brown shirts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and now obama has sent out his brown shirts.</p>
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		<title>By: scarlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>scarlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To vote against both their party and Constituents, in the name of &quot;Working with the new Administration&quot;

Well, I can only hope the bother to look at the poll numbers.  If the Senate holds the line too, that would be a blow of epic proportions to the Pelosi-Reid-Obama Axis.

But I&#039;m not holding my breath</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To vote against both their party and Constituents, in the name of &#8220;Working with the new Administration&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, I can only hope the bother to look at the poll numbers.  If the Senate holds the line too, that would be a blow of epic proportions to the Pelosi-Reid-Obama Axis.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m not holding my breath</p>
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