Are you tired of William Jefferson* (D) being the Representative for LA-02?


*...in his freezer.

That’s a serious question, and one that can be profitably asked across the political spectrum. In fact, the following questions are really directed at our lurkers: does having Rep. Jefferson in a position of trust and authority bother you, on a fundamental level? Are you tired of having this man’s continued presence in Congress give the lie to all of your pious statements about being for clean government? Do you quietly fume about how the runoff election and his federal trial for bribery and racketeering will happen at about the same time?

Are you?

Well, talk is cheap. Time for you people to clean your house.

There’s a guy running against Jefferson in the general. His name’s Joseph Cao (you can contribute here). Vietnamese-American, philosophy professor (trained with the Jesuits, no less), bachelors’ in physics, and an attorney with a history of social work both here and abroad. He’s also not a corrupt Louisiana nepotist currently under indictment on multiple counts of abusing his office, which should also be a factor for your support. All in all, if we’re to believe your rhetoric, he’s precisely the kind of Republican that you keep telling us that we should be running for office. Well, here he is. The fact that he’s considered a long shot is not a judgment on us, by the way. Nor is the fact that Rep. Jefferson still has a position of authority in Congress. That’s all you guys, and until you’re collectively ready to cut Bill Jefferson loose, he’s going to keep on being a blot on your honor.

So. In LA-02, on December 6th, vote for the Republican.

It’s important.

Moe Lane

PS: Again. …in his freezer.


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You're banging your head against the wall

TxCon (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 10:17AM EST (link)

if you think people in this district will listen to you and vote Jefferson out? He has been crooked for a real long time and yet keeps getting re-elected.

 

Well, those of us who've just endured

Achance (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 10:20AM EST (link)

having a 40 year US Senator hounded from office and facing jail as the result of a show trial in DC, watched three present or former members of our legislature hauled off to jail, watched one of the largest companies in our state effectively dissolved by the Public Integrity Section sure wonder why he’s still in office.

In Vino Veritas

Well, I had nothing better to do this morning.

Moe Lane (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 10:28AM EST (link)

Besides, I’m right. That’s enough of a justification for going down swinging. :)

TxCon...Each crack in the wall make its collapse more likely...

Attack Mode (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 10:31AM EST (link)

Han Pritcher, one of our lefty lurkers, has committed to voting for Cao for the same reasons that Moe has listed. Don’t be so pessimistic. If we don’t fight to educate and persuade those on our left then Jefferson’s re-election is guaranteed. He can be defeated…we just need to make the case.

“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.

 
 
 

Again

Reaper0Bot0 (formerly Han_Pritcher) (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 10:33AM EST (link)

I hope Jefferson loses. By default that means I hope that this Republican wins. I don’t live anywhere near that district, nor do I know anyone who does. As such, I won’t do much more than I’ve done.

I ain’t contributing to his campaign, nor would I even consider phonebanking. I can’t imagine you guys doing those things for Begich (nor would I have expected it).

Jefferson is entitled to his day in court and a chance to clear his name. He is not entitled to my support because we are of the same party. There are limits, however, to my lack of support.

Han...I thought you were from there....

Attack Mode (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 10:37AM EST (link)

dangit…now I have to retract my statement.

“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.

Apparently I misunderstood where Han lives...

Attack Mode (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 10:38AM EST (link)

premise still stands.

“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.

maybe, but we scoffed at Howard Dean's 50-state strategy

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 10:49AM EST (link)

And we don’t laugh about that anymore. So if Repubs make a go at Jefferson, you may see it as futile, or you may see it as the start of an unexpectedly beautiful friendship (between Republicans and electoral boldness).

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

 
 
 
 

Nothing in the past has shown me

TxCon (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 11:11AM EST (link)

that Dems will vote their scumbags and/or felons out of office. I hope I’m wrong this time.

 

Contributed

Hermes (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 11:52AM EST (link)

Although I don’t live anywhere near Mr. Jefferson’s district, I did contribute to Mr. Cao’s campaign. He looks like the type of candidate that we should be backing in every election.

 

I'm from New Orleans

Aquinas (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 12:03PM EST (link)

not in but right next to Jefferson’s district (I’ve had the grace to have been represented by David Vitter, Bobby Jindal, and Steve Scalise back to back).

While y’all are right in saying just because something seems impossible doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try and eventually cracks will appear in the wall, the Dec. 6th election is not that time.

The best chance to beat Jefferson this year was from his main Democratic rival Helena Moreno, a former newscaster in New Orleans (who would have been much better and more moderate than Jefferson) and she went down to him a few weeks ago. At some point Jefferson’s trial will come back to bite him. But in his district, one in which race is by far the overriding factor, he will continue to get elected until another decently known black man challenges him or his trial finally gets concluded and he gets thrown in jail.

It’s simply the unique nature of the district and his connection with it. A better bet to get him ousted is to save up your contributions until a challenger looks like he may win and then all donate to him. I’m as conservative as they come and I’m not typically defeatist but in this situation just trying to be a realist.

At least those in the 2nd District have a Republican to vote for on Dec. 6th. My Dec. 6th vote for my LA state senator is between two Democrats…figures

To toil and not to seek for rest.
A.M.D.G.

 

Nice article in AS

kingfish Friday, November 21st at 12:11PM EST (link)

http://www.spectator.org/archives/2008/11/20/should-congress-have-a-cao

Our kind of guy.

Wonder how much the RNC will dump into his campaign?

No. We have to stop doing this.

Moe Lane (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 12:24PM EST (link)

No more concessions, no more keeping our powder dry, no more nickel-and-diming. It is a moral obligation to support the clean against the corrupt and the good against the bad; and if we can’t win a fight we can at least do our level best to make the other side ashamed of their support.

I’m pretty much without spare income these days, so I can’t do much. But I can still do things like this, by God, and I shall.

Saving up money

Aquinas (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 12:35PM EST (link)

and searching for a high quality candidate to challenge Jefferson is not a concession nor keeping our powder dry. It’s being smart about how much powder we use and when we use it. When you shoot cannon you want to aim it at a ship not the ocean.

To the comment below, the RNC will likely not dump much if any in the race because it’s not a 2nd or 1st tier race for them.

Let’s search for some quality candidates that fit the bill for that district and get the RNC to convince them to run against Jefferson with some good financial backing. That would be some strategic and smart resistance, the kind we need to win in ’10 and ’12.

To toil and not to seek for rest.
A.M.D.G.

I have to agree, Moe

Reaper0Bot0 (formerly Han_Pritcher) (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 12:41PM EST (link)

As I’m sure you are party-blind in this.

We elect these people. We pay their salaries. They are there because of us, and they should be held accountable when they break faith with their duties. It is one thing to disagree with an elected official, or for them to do something apparently stupid. Outright corruption is something else again.

Talk may be cheap, but it is not without value. Keep it up.

 
 
 
 

Losing faith...

hudsonrepub Friday, November 21st at 1:42PM EST (link)

I just contributed to Mr. Cao with the hope that the residents of LA-02 will do the right thing and replace Rep. Jefferson. However, I am losing faith in the ability of those who vote to pay attention to what their elected officials do and hold them accountable for their actions. I am still deeply troubled by the re-election of Murtha in PA. When you can call your constituents racists and rednecks and still win re-election I am not sure what would cause someone to lose their seat in Congress. Surely not stashing some $$ in the freezer.

 

since you're asking lurkers...

rcc Friday, November 21st at 2:05PM EST (link)

Yes, it does bother me. I’d like to see Jefferson thrown out. But I don’t live in that district and I don’t feel strongly enough to send money to his opponent. I didn’t send money to Begich, either.

In other words, it doesn't actually bother you.

Moe Lane (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 2:32PM EST (link)
 

Bother me compared to what?

birdmojo (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 2:47PM EST (link)

Does it bother me compared to sending Federal Agents after Tommy Chong in the months following 9/11?

Does it bother me compared to PATRIOT and PATRIOT II?

Does it bother me compared to Delay saying that there was no fat in the budget to cut?

Does it bother me compared to the TSA throwing out my potential binary explosives into a 55 gallon drum full of other potential binary explosives?

Does it bother me compared to the prescription drug benefit?

Does it bother me compared to sending Federal Agents to bust up Medical Marijuana co-ops in California (that exist in accordance with California State Law)?

Does it bother me compared to the $700 Billion bailout?

Or is the general assumption that, all other things being equal, and not talking about anything else, and not thinking about anything else, indeed, in a veritable vacuum, this particular crook remaining in office is something that ticks me off?

Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. –Voltaire

moral obligations and all

I was a retread named Zombie Flanders / randomkid. Friday, November 21st at 2:59PM EST (link)

I don’t agree with this…I agree that there is a moral obligation to throw the corrupt outta office. But, moving from ends to means, it doesn’t mean that any attempt to throw the dude out is well-advised.

Pretending I am a Republican for a second…if I have a choice to give $ to the freezer guy’s opponent or to some other Republican in a tight race, I have to make the following comparison. What makes the world a better place, giving the money to Prof. Cao, or to Joe the Republican Congressional Candidate in a Tight Race? While throwing out Jefferson might be a greater benefit than Joe the Republican beating Isaac the Democratic Incumbent, you must also consider the probability that you donation causes that desired effect. If the probability of throwing out the freezer guy is much lower than the probability of electing Joe over Isaac, then it probably does more to make the world a better place giving money to Joe, not Prof Cao.

Extend this analogy to, say, spending money on one’s family or giving to a charity compared to giving to Prof Cao. And also extend it from money to effort.

This is all complicated by the fact that Prof Cao’s first name is, in fact, Joe…

We have another "No"...

hudsonrepub Friday, November 21st at 3:12PM EST (link)

You misread.

birdmojo (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 3:23PM EST (link)

If the question is “does it bug you?”, the answer is “of course it bugs me, they should bring back tarring and feathering”.

If the question is “does it bug you enough to open your wallet and send some money to help support the party that would like you to know that the democrats are much, much worse than they are”, well… I’m digging through the “remember 2000?” box in my attic and I’ve found a 3×5 card with the phrase “not a dime’s worth of difference” on it.

Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. –Voltaire

 
 
 
 

Moe, it does bug me.

TxCon (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 3:30PM EST (link)

It happens all over the country and it bugs me. But I also know that there are enough people in that district who probably think that “the Man” is out to get Jefferson and are going to vote for him no matter what, some probably even more enthusiasticly than before.

No, he's quite right, birdmojo. It doesn't bug you.

Moe Lane (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 4:06PM EST (link)

You’d rather whine about how both parties are awful than do anything about it.

Besides, he's got that "D" after his name...

Moe Lane (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 4:09PM EST (link)

…and this election cycle is pretty much over otherwise.

Bird...I think you misunderstand a bit yourself...

Attack Mode (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 4:09PM EST (link)

You can support the candidate Joseph Cao without supporting the party. Check him out and see if you think he is worthy of 5 bucks…if not address that rather than all the apostasies of the entire Republican Party leadership. Cao shouldn’t have to pay for the sins of the party…only his own sins, if there be any.

“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.

 
 
 
 

As a certified "lurker", I would not vote for the guy with cash in his freezer.

RobW (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 4:09PM EST (link)

you say that like you think I am fine with him being there because he is a Dem...

I was a retread named Zombie Flanders / randomkid. Friday, November 21st at 4:22PM EST (link)

…which isn’t the case. I mean, even if I was totally cynical, I would still want him gone, because we already have a safe majority anyway, and it’s a hella Democratic district so if he’s gone some other Dem will likely take his place, now or in 2 years, and his being there only gives ammo to the other side. Even the most partisan Democrat probably wants him gone for that reason.

Whine?

birdmojo (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 4:32PM EST (link)

No, not really.

It’s more that I’m interested in whether the Republicans will learn anything this time around in their time in the wilderness.

(Do we agree that the Republicans might be in the wilderness? Perhaps that is the first step.)

As it is, I am under the impression that the current plan for the Republican Party is to wait for the Democrats to overreach (like with a second assault weapons ban or something) and then win back the house and interpret the rejection of the democrats as an endorsement of the republicans and begin overreaching.

It’s not that I’m whining that the two parties are awful. I’m wondering if the party that went from discussing “Permanent Republican Majority” to telling people that they have to support this one race in GA lest the Democrats have a filibuster-proof number of Senate Seats understands what happened in the last four years.

You guys do know that you’re in the wilderness, right?

I find “why?” to be the most helpful question to have a solid answer to before the “how does a political party leave the wilderness?” question is answered… because “waiting for the other party to prove that they’re even worse than us” is a foolproof way to get out of there, well… It’s not a particularly good way to STAY out of it.

But, as I’ve said many a time, don’t take my word for it. Just watch what happens.

Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. –Voltaire

If you're not, what are you doing to get rid of him?

Moe Lane (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 4:37PM EST (link)

Talk is cheap, and races don’t get much more binary than this one.

I have always had a soft spot for Jesuits...

birdmojo (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 4:38PM EST (link)

But I’m not sure that the Republican Party, as a whole, knows why it lost the election.

If it doesn’t know why it lost, then that five bucks would do more good in the hands of one of the hoboes in Acacia Park (we know that it would be spent locally, at the very least).

Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. –Voltaire

Yes, really. You're whining.

Moe Lane (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 4:42PM EST (link)

And now you’re threadjacking. So either get back on topic – which is about how to maximize the GOP’s chances of removing the crook currently occupying this seat – or leave this thread.

Wrong question

Dan McLaughlin (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 4:46PM EST (link)

Why don’t you try asking whether Mr. Cao is a good candidate and better than Jefferson?

“No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong.” – Winston Churchill

Nothing...

I was a retread named Zombie Flanders / randomkid. Friday, November 21st at 4:56PM EST (link)

…then again, I didn’t do anything to help any other congressional candidate, on either side, this time around (other than vote), including people in close races up against crooks. Hell, I didn’t even do anything to help Obama, other than vote for him twice (primaries and general).

Does that make me a bad person? Maybe, but if so then there are a lot of other pressing issues out there in the world that I do little about, that would make me a bad person anyway. Like poverty ‘n stuff.

Does that mean it secretly doesn’t bug me, and I am lying? If so it would also mean that McCain potentially winning didn’t bug me back before the election, and it did bug me when McCain was even or ahead in polls. So, by contradiction, it doesn’t not bug me, or in other words, it bugs me. Proof complete. Sorry, I am doing math homework at the same time as this.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Nice idea, but...

Sean (SIConservative) (Diary) Saturday, November 22nd at 9:56AM EST (link)

I’m definitely a fan of asking Dems to contribute to Republicans, and if this post gets any of them to do so, great.

For those of us Republicans with a limited money supply (and those who don’t fall into this category may well soon), we’ve got to pick our battles. The Democrats don’t actually fight in every district, as much as they’d like to believe otherwise. They’ve been picking and choosing, and they have chosen wisely. They’ve cast a wide, but not infinite, net and they’ve brought in more seats than anyone expected in the process. They’d have failed to win many of those, though, if they also wasted money in districts in which they had *no *chance. We’re facing an incredibly difficult cycle in the Senate in 2010, made no easier by the fact that we still have Senators who think that the reason we lost is because we didn’t spend enough when we were in power.

What’s more is that “safe Republican” and “safe Democrat” districts are totally different animals. In most of our safe districts, we’re expecting 55-65% of the vote. In the Democrats’ safe districts, they often garner upwards of 90%. It’s a helluva lot tougher to swing an extra 5-10% of voters than it is to convert over 40%, many of whom probably don’t even know any Republicans. Now, if you want to change the redistricting to make Republican seats less safe and Democrat seats more competitive, then I would suggest you shift your focus to state legislative races, which don’t get nearly the attention they deserve. (Please don’t take this as a slight on you or the site, as the blame is evenly distributed to all, including me, for not giving them that attention.)

Finally, I think that this would have had more strength had the Directors stuck with their original endorsement of Mark Begich rather than just offering a non-endorsement of Sen. Stevens. To be sure, I don’t know on which side of that issue you fell, and I can certainly respect the views of those who did not feel comfortable endorsing someone who supports abortion, but if we’re going to ask Democrats to actively oppose their own on account of corruption, it’s only fair that we should do the same.

 

Just-registered lurker:

Sport Saturday, November 22nd at 1:52PM EST (link)

I’m a Kossack and can vouch for the fact that there are more negative diaries over there concerning Jefferson than positive. I don’t think it’s fair to say that we don’t care if we don’t donate to Cao. It’s not like most of us have extra money sitting around earmarked for out-of-state Congressional donations.

All the same, if anyone can produce a stub or screencap of a confirmation that they donated to the Begich or Martin campaigns, then I’ll gladly donate to Cao.

Sorry for being untimely, but I had to go through the wait period.