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	<title>Comments on: Hi!  Are you a libertarian supporting Obama?</title>
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		<title>By: NightTwister</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2008/10/31/hi-are-you-a-libertarian-supporting-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>NightTwister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 10:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Has he discussed this with his running mate?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Moe_Lane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moe_Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 09:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;NT&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NT</p>
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		<title>By: briefsynopsis</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2008/10/31/hi-are-you-a-libertarian-supporting-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>briefsynopsis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 09:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey Barry,
When you freely give/share of your own accord it is called Charity.
When the teacher, legislated by the Principle commands the teacher to take from you and give to another under the guise of Fairness/equality, that my friend is socialism.
A tad more time in the &quot;real world&quot; and this would be apparent to you also.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Barry,<br />
When you freely give/share of your own accord it is called Charity.<br />
When the teacher, legislated by the Principle commands the teacher to take from you and give to another under the guise of Fairness/equality, that my friend is socialism.<br />
A tad more time in the &#8220;real world&#8221; and this would be apparent to you also.</p>
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		<title>By: speciallist</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2008/10/31/hi-are-you-a-libertarian-supporting-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>speciallist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 01:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&quot;That crowd looks like it&#039;s about to buy some Amway products&quot;...Steve Foley&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>&#8220;That crowd looks like it&#8217;s about to buy some Amway products&#8221;&#8230;Steve Foley</b></p>
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		<title>By: finaljeopardy</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2008/10/31/hi-are-you-a-libertarian-supporting-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>finaljeopardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 01:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;they will be too tired to vote.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they will be too tired to vote.</p>
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		<title>By: finaljeopardy</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2008/10/31/hi-are-you-a-libertarian-supporting-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>finaljeopardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 01:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;there are two kinds of libertarians. there are libertarian republicans who are classic liberals. then there is the libertarian party who are anarchist communists; they are in opposition to all forms of political power, hierarchy and domination. &lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are two kinds of libertarians. there are libertarian republicans who are classic liberals. then there is the libertarian party who are anarchist communists; they are in opposition to all forms of political power, hierarchy and domination. </p>
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		<title>By: Next93</title>
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		<dc:creator>Next93</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;N/T&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>N/T</p>
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		<title>By: MuskegonCritic</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2008/10/31/hi-are-you-a-libertarian-supporting-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>MuskegonCritic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And to be really fair...Ayn Rand pretty much hated everybody. &lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to be really fair&#8230;Ayn Rand pretty much hated everybody. </p>
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		<title>By: Moe_Lane</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2008/10/31/hi-are-you-a-libertarian-supporting-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>Moe_Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;...in the original post.  :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;in the original post.  <img src='http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: MuskegonCritic</title>
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		<dc:creator>MuskegonCritic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What does Ayn Rand have to say about Libertarians?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Check out the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServer?pagename=education_campus_libertarians&quot;&gt;Any Rand Institute excerpt&lt;/a&gt; and Ms. Rand&#039;s own words. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When asked what she thought of the Libertarian Party she said &quot; I’d rather vote for Bob Hope, the Marx Brothers, or Jerry Lewis. I don’t think they’re as funny as Professor Hospers and the Libertarian Party.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So...Libertarians, Obama is DEFENDING your cause in his insult of Ayn Rand&#039;s book.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does Ayn Rand have to say about Libertarians?</p>
<p>Check out the <a href="http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServer?pagename=education_campus_libertarians">Any Rand Institute excerpt</a> and Ms. Rand&#8217;s own words. </p>
<p>When asked what she thought of the Libertarian Party she said &#8221; I’d rather vote for Bob Hope, the Marx Brothers, or Jerry Lewis. I don’t think they’re as funny as Professor Hospers and the Libertarian Party.&#8221;</p>
<p>So&#8230;Libertarians, Obama is DEFENDING your cause in his insult of Ayn Rand&#8217;s book.</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The used to scream and cheer at every pause he took.  Now they&#039;re just standing there...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: paulag1955</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulag1955</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Or did that line about making a virtue out of selfishness fall totally flat with the crowd?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or did that line about making a virtue out of selfishness fall totally flat with the crowd?</p>
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		<title>By: mobius2702</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Most &quot;libertarians&quot; I know can&#039;t see beyond their bedroom door.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They think they are &quot;free thinkers&quot; because they support gay marriage or a &quot;right to choose&quot; or use drugs or whatever, but have absolutely no concept of economic freedom.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Their idea of economic freedom consists of being able to buy what the other guy has, and if they can&#039;t, they immediately jump to some conspiracy theory about how &quot;the man&quot; is keeping us down.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I can more easily tolerate draconian social laws than a draconian tax system... until &quot;they&quot; send the authorities to my house and break down my door over social issues, I&#039;m good.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But to give up economic freedom in order to have more social freedom is absurd.  Economic freedom affects what I earn, what I buy, and how I live far more than any anti-porn laws or anti-drug laws or whatever.  I can pay a fine here and there if need be for breaking social taboos, but only for as long as I have economic freedoms.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Most &quot;independent libertarians&quot; I know have it backwards.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(Note: This does not in anyway reflect on those here with a libertarian streak, this is a commentary on the liberals I know who don&#039;t understand that big government socialism attacks economic freedom first, but don&#039;t see that after they get done with the economics, they&#039;ll be more than happy to go after thought.)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most &#8220;libertarians&#8221; I know can&#8217;t see beyond their bedroom door.</p>
<p>They think they are &#8220;free thinkers&#8221; because they support gay marriage or a &#8220;right to choose&#8221; or use drugs or whatever, but have absolutely no concept of economic freedom.</p>
<p>Their idea of economic freedom consists of being able to buy what the other guy has, and if they can&#8217;t, they immediately jump to some conspiracy theory about how &#8220;the man&#8221; is keeping us down.</p>
<p>I can more easily tolerate draconian social laws than a draconian tax system&#8230; until &#8220;they&#8221; send the authorities to my house and break down my door over social issues, I&#8217;m good.</p>
<p>But to give up economic freedom in order to have more social freedom is absurd.  Economic freedom affects what I earn, what I buy, and how I live far more than any anti-porn laws or anti-drug laws or whatever.  I can pay a fine here and there if need be for breaking social taboos, but only for as long as I have economic freedoms.</p>
<p>Most &#8220;independent libertarians&#8221; I know have it backwards.</p>
<p>(Note: This does not in anyway reflect on those here with a libertarian streak, this is a commentary on the liberals I know who don&#8217;t understand that big government socialism attacks economic freedom first, but don&#8217;t see that after they get done with the economics, they&#8217;ll be more than happy to go after thought.)</p>
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		<title>By: IJB</title>
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		<dc:creator>IJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: RedInABleuState</title>
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		<dc:creator>RedInABleuState</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The people in the background don&#039;t look all that excited to be that close to The One.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: DavidSage</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidSage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I though one thing Conservatives and Libertarians could always agree on was our opposition to socialism.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have many friends that call themselves &quot;libertarians&quot;, but vote Democrat.  It&#039;s always for the dumbest reasons, they think Republicans are preachers in disguise that are intolerant.   &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I can&#039;t understand how any libertarian can support a liberal Democrat, but to support a true socialist like Obama is even more absurd.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Socialism is the exact opposite of libertarianism.  If you believe in the philosophy of smaller government, don&#039;t vote for socialism.  More money to the state and less economic freedom for our citizens will destroy whatever liberty we have left in this country.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I though one thing Conservatives and Libertarians could always agree on was our opposition to socialism.</p>
<p>I have many friends that call themselves &#8220;libertarians&#8221;, but vote Democrat.  It&#8217;s always for the dumbest reasons, they think Republicans are preachers in disguise that are intolerant.   </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t understand how any libertarian can support a liberal Democrat, but to support a true socialist like Obama is even more absurd.</p>
<p>Socialism is the exact opposite of libertarianism.  If you believe in the philosophy of smaller government, don&#8217;t vote for socialism.  More money to the state and less economic freedom for our citizens will destroy whatever liberty we have left in this country.</p>
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