Palin on the Attack: Life Issues


"There are the world’s standards of perfection... and then there are God’s, and these are the final measure. "

Go here for the transcript, and here for Allahpundit’s commentary on the video:

AP’s worried (not very surprising: he’s a good and habitually pessimistic blogger) that this is more evidence that McCain & Palin are at odds with each other over how hard to hit the Democrats on this and other issues.

I do not agree.

Anyway, while not a Evangelical myself, I fully understand why David Brody is so happy with the text quoted in the subtitle above; I share his reaction. It’s refreshing to have a politician that’s this unapologetic about the ultimate source of her stance on life issues: unapologetic, and unafraid. Far too many of our current legislators act as if straightforwardly acknowledging the influence of their religious beliefs on their moral philosophy is somehow… tacky. Watching somebody who won’t do that soothes.

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Obama wants to pass sweeping abortions rights bill, too.

Michael Parrish (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 1:36PM EST (link)

Not just this, but some freakish legislation lurking in committee should BO get elected.

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Danger is 2012

liberalrepublican (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 1:38PM EST (link)

Assuming things don’t change much, this love affair with Palin is dangerous for the Republican Party in 2012.

We risk doing what the D’s have done for years – nominate someone who the base loves but is severely handicapped in the general election.

Palin is loved by the base on the right, despised by the base on the left and not very appealing to those in the middle.

Her approach is very different than Reagan.

“Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. … including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy”

 

Now Conservatives

RJD (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 1:41PM EST (link)

only have to worry that the national political arena won’t weaken her resolve. Palin is a special breed; add a little more seasoning to her political resume and she will be a force in her own right (if she isn’t already).
How would four years as VP change her views? Or, how will her views change, if this election is lost, and she decides to run as the top of the ticket in 2012?

which base is wider... majority of american is for limiting abortion options n/t

Michael Parrish (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 1:49PM EST (link)

n/t

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again, Shirley you gest...

David Hinz (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 1:50PM EST (link)

…not very appealing to those in the middle.

She doesn’t appeal to all of middle America — the girl next door — the Hockey Mom — all of us?

OH, I get it — the radical worse than Dick Cheney ideologue — that the far left and the MSM is making her out to be.

I’LL tell ya what, lets allow the American people to decide…

It's not one issue

liberalrepublican (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 1:50PM EST (link)

Reagan was a unifying figure that the base loved.

Palin is a polarizing figure that the base loves.

“Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. … including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy”

 
 
 
 

All

pwest (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 1:52PM EST (link)

this is, is Good Cop/Bad Cop.

Good for her; but what does it say about where we are as a culture when standing up for life and marriage is considered being a bad cop and hate speech!!!!!!!!!

Pam

you are wrong

Jvette Sunday, October 12th at 1:54PM EST (link)

Ronald Reagan may not have been able to pass any legislation regarding the life issue, but his presidency had a profound impact on the movement. For decades, we have been working to get the word out, get the information to the people. It is working, more and more people are seeing abortion for the evil it is. More and more people are understanding the enormous harm it has done to the soul of this nation and her people.

Sarah is exactly what we need right now for this time and for the future. Her influence on young women, the majority of abortion seekers, will curb abortion more than any legislation.

I thank God for Sarah. She is exactly what the Founding Fathers wanted for Washington. A citizen politician who isn’t looking to make a career out of politics. One who understands the real problems of this country and wants to work to resolve them, not spend a lifetime in Congress, creating more problems and then promising to fix them if only we would reelect him.

God has placed obvious limits on man’s intelligence but none what-so-ever on his stupidity.

 
 

Which God should we follow?

shooflyguy68 Sunday, October 12th at 1:57PM EST (link)

Which of God’s laws and which God should we follow? The United States is a secular republic and not a theocracy. While we are largely a people of faith, our laws are not to be based on Biblical law. It is one thing to have your faith guide your actions as a lawmaker and another to insist that the law of the land be based on “God’s” law.

have you read the declaration and what it says about life and who gives rights?

Michael Parrish (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 2:06PM EST (link)

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.”

there is a specific order for a reason… otherwise there would be no need to called it, grammatically, a series.

Regarding the derivation of rights from a Creator… who do you suppose that Creator is?

She’s not talking about Sharia law or Mosaic law. She’s talking about the unalienable right to life here.

maybe it’s time american stop being confused about the simple things our country afford.

being pro-choice is not a right and it isn’t a liberty because it inherently attacks the preceding unalienable right to life.

think, please, for the love of us all.

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you are wrong

Jvette Sunday, October 12th at 2:06PM EST (link)

Ronald Reagan may not have been able to pass any legislation regarding the life issue, but his presidency had a profound impact on the movement. For decades, we have been working to get the word out, get the information to the people. It is working, more and more people are seeing abortion for the evil it is. More and more people are understanding the enormous harm it has done to the soul of this nation and her people.

Sarah is exactly what we need right now for this time and for the future. Her influence on young women, the majority of abortion seekers, will curb abortion more than any legislation.

I thank God for Sarah. She is exactly what the Founding Fathers wanted for Washington. A citizen politician who isn’t looking to make a career out of politics. One who understands the real problems of this country and wants to work to resolve them, not spend a lifetime in Congress, creating more problems and then promising to fix them if only we would reelect him.

God has placed obvious limits on man’s intelligence but none what-so-ever on his stupidity.

speaking of faded ink...

David Hinz (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 2:10PM EST (link)

I oppose abortion based on the Constitution's

shooflyguy68 Sunday, October 12th at 2:11PM EST (link)

equal protection clause. We don’t need the Bible or Christianity or other religions to define our rights and responsibilities under the Constitution.

Claiming that we should write or enforce laws based on Christian theology is unAmerican.

hehe ... like someone named "liberalrepublican" understands "the base"

Bill S (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 2:16PM EST (link)

Please.

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

Mike

Jvette Sunday, October 12th at 2:17PM EST (link)

You have it right. This continual drum beat of the left with “we are a secular nation” is designed to negate any talk of our Creator.

But, wholly without using a religious meme, one can make the argument that our Constitution and Declaration of Independence, support the state’s role and duty to protect life as a right.

The pro-abortion lobby has given up on arguing whether the unborn is human, they concentrate now on “personhood”, a term that does not even exist. A person, as defined in the dictionary is a human. No qualifier, no meeting of some ephemeral sentient status.

This debate hinges on the terminology used. It is a debate we are winning, and that is why the left is so vicious towards Sarah. She and her husband exemplify all that is right in this world. Her little one, Trig, exposes the lies of the pro-aborts.

God has placed obvious limits on man’s intelligence but none what-so-ever on his stupidity.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Alaska in PA

Raven (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 2:19PM EST (link)

I was at that rally yesterday. Her hour-long speech didn’t feel like any more than 20 minutes.
It wasn’t an exciting speech, but it was enthralling.

“If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
Luke 22:36

You are making the incorrect assumption

I actually always thought you guys were arrogant pinheads. Sunday, October 12th at 2:20PM EST (link)

that people will make choices about a candidate based upon a single issue-in this case abortion. While it is true that there are some people who are “single issue” candidates, there are many more who are able to think about more than one thing while choosing a candidate.

i guess the framers were unAmerican and we should start over...

Michael Parrish (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 2:23PM EST (link)

we don’t need to say… Christian or name a religion…

however…

you sound like the type that interprets “freedom of religion” to mean “freedom from religion”.

the founder’s and framer’s biblical basis for moral guidance in the declaration and the constitution does not put itself at odds with the nation’s founding documents those same people authored.

fortunately, they were smart enough that a defense of christian morality isn’t needed because they established the rights from the beginning as coming from a Creator.

you cannot ignore that and elevate the equal protection clause above it.

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oh golly... my side hurts from laughing... n/t

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n/t

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Jvette Sunday, October 12th at 2:25PM EST (link)

You have it right. This continual drum beat of the left with “we are a secular nation” is designed to negate any talk of our Creator.

But, wholly without using a religious meme, one can make the argument that our Constitution and Declaration of Independence, support the state’s role and duty to protect life as a right.

The pro-abortion lobby has given up on arguing whether the unborn is human, they concentrate now on “personhood”, a term that does not even exist. A person, as defined in the dictionary is a human. No qualifier, no meeting of some ephemeral sentient status.

This debate hinges on the terminology used. It is a debate we are winning, and that is why the left is so vicious towards Sarah. She and her husband exemplify all that is right in this world. Her little one, Trig, exposes the lies of the pro-aborts.

God has placed obvious limits on man’s intelligence but none what-so-ever on his stupidity.

If they meant God or Jesus, they would have written it as such

shooflyguy68 Sunday, October 12th at 2:31PM EST (link)

Instead, they used the terms, Creator and Providence. That’s because while they did use Christian moralit, Western values and, most importantly, the philosophies of the Enlightenment, they were wise enough not to claim that American law was based on Christian Biblical law.

There is nothing wrong with bringing your Christian or Jewish or Muslim or Hindu or Flying Spaghetti Monster values in the writing of laws. I don’t think we can or should exclude religious expression from public life. What I don’t want is someone claiming that their version of God or religion is what we should use to make laws in this country.

Thank you,

McPALINation Sunday, October 12th at 2:31PM EST (link)

mman. From a group of Idaho moms.
p.s. is your call-sign’s extra “M” for “multi-task” by any chance? ;)

I AM (very disappointed) JOE

what a load of crap...

Jack (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 2:35PM EST (link)

liberalrepublican you do not have a clue what you are talking about. Reagan had two major issues that he did not care if he was the only one in the country that believed in them he was going to fight for them.

The country was terribly divided in Reagan’s first term. Literally tens of thousands of Americans and Europeans marched and marched loudly in regards to his insistence to place missiles in Europe and for his star wars defense.

I was with Reagan in ’76, 80′ and ’84. Liberal Republicans fought tooth and nail against him. They supported Ford in ’76 and Bush in ’80.

You were one of those condemning Reagan and warning the rank and file that he could not win. That America would not vote for a B actor from Hollywood. You were not with us then or are you with us now.

You were the sort of Republican that Reagan warned the Republican party to beware. Do you people remember George Bush in 1988 how he wanted to lead us to “a kinder and gentler America”?

How Reagan was being vilified in ’88 for being too doctrinaire. Iran Contra? Walking out of the talks in Iceland?

Liberalrepublican you are the very person that Reagan did not like. I do not like you and I will fight you and resist you.

Jack

“If at age 20 you are conservative you have no heart. It at age 30 you are liberal you have no brains.” Sir Winston Churchill

logic fail... God and Divine Providence make an appearance

Michael Parrish (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 2:39PM EST (link)

the declaration does say “God” and it doesn’t say just Providence… it says “Divine Providence”…

“When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”

“And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.”

how is what Gov. Palin said any different in her invocation of God?

so which part of the declaration do you want to keep and which do you want to dispose of to suit your argument better?

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oh yeah, and Supreme Judge

Michael Parrish (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 2:44PM EST (link)

“We, therefore, the representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress, assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions.”

wonder who they meant here? the Sheriff of Nottingham? When the first mention is God the rest of the terms used tend to refer back to other ways of describing God… where you like Him or not.

A few paragraphs and 5 mentions… the entire documents uses God as the basis of their authority, conscience, and moral guidance.

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Interesting perspective on Reagan and "moderate"

Bill S (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 2:52PM EST (link)

from the June 16, 1980 issue of Time. I like this part:

About that charge of Reagan’s being unelectable, Ford said he changed his mind when the economic news grew worse. He also felt that Reagan had “moderated” some of his earlier views. Reagan did not quite accept that. He said that changes had occurred in the “perception of my viewpoints rather than my viewpoints themselves.”

(emphasis mine). Reagan was basically considered unelectable until he selected Bush as his running mate – someone who made the ticket more moderate.

In the case of McCain/Palin, JM went the other direction – HE is considered the “moderate” and needed someone more right to even things out.

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

See my latest diary post concerning Chris Buckley

bobbymike (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 2:56PM EST (link)

The Republicans move to the left and lose, the solution for “liberalrepublican” is move further to the left…Duh!!!

What the right needs is a constant coherent right of center, free market, small government, less taxes and strong military approach and stick with it. This is where 60% of the electorate lies.

I would ask “Liberalrepublican” a question. The Republican legislative leadership moved to the center and we got creamed, any “logical” explanation?

Who is the base?

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 3:01PM EST (link)

For me, the base of the Republican Party are the CONSERVATIVES.

Strictly speaking, Sarah Palin has been able to unify the base.

As for Moderates, history says that this group are generally electing a candidate with strong economic message.

Remember that History tells us tha VP pick had nothing to do with outcome of the election. Palin is changing that narrative.

McCain is still the candidate. Most of Palin’s verbiage in this election are still based on the platform of McCain. It’s McCain we should be selling and, to be fair, Palin is selling McCain and she’s consistent with that.

With respect to Reagan, Reagan also lost Presidential Election TWICE (1968 and 1976). IT TOOK 3 TERMS BEFORE REAGAN SOLIDIFIED HIS BASE AND WON THE ELECTION. Some even said that he should thank the worst performance of Jimmy Carter (for me, the worst president). Reagan had his shares of “flaws” too. We are saying “all good things” about Reagan now because of his accomplishments.

Palin is less than 2 months in the scene and she has accomplished so much already. That’s why the MSM hates her because she was able to solidify the my own concept of the conservative base for McCain at the shortest time possible.

They didn't mean the Christian God as defined in the Bible

shooflyguy68 Sunday, October 12th at 3:03PM EST (link)

This is NOT a Christian nation but rather one in which most citizens are Christians. There is a difference.

Really? Were you there? Did you discuss it with the Founders?

Bill S (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 3:08PM EST (link)

How the heck do YOU know what they meant? Did one of the Founding Fathers write somewhere that “the religious foundations of the nation have nothing to do with Jesus?”

Your opinion is just that.

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

Actually, they did Shoofly

Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 3:10PM EST (link)

The Federalist Papers are pretty clear on that point. There was a healthy level of respect for variations, which was shown by Washington’s letter to one of the most respected Rabbi’s in the new US.

When they said “endowed by their Creator”, it was not an abstract concept.

“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy

Reagan had to do it in 12 years

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 3:11PM EST (link)

since he ran for Republican Party primaries in 1968.

This woman took her conservative base in just 2 months. MSM “dirty attacks” still linger on her.

But time will erase them just like Reagan. At that time, Palin will more than ready to face even a powerhouse like Barack Obama.

Palin does appeal to many in the middle

JSobieski (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 3:16PM EST (link)

Frankly, she is perfectly tailored to appeal to Blue Dog Democrats in states like Pennsylvania and Michigan.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

Well put.

shooflyguy68 Sunday, October 12th at 3:18PM EST (link)

My point was not that they didn’t believe in God, though many were not Christians in the traditional sense. They were careful to couch their writings in a way that would avoid the problems they saw in Europe with the Church holding a postion of power over the people and their governments. They were explicit in their writings that there was to be no religious test for office and they were explicit in their writings that they wanted to protect the churches from the government as much as they wanted to protect the government from the churches.

There is nothing wrong with using your faith to guide you as a politician or as an elected leader. There is definitely something wrong with claiming that we should use Christianity as the basis for our laws. Because we are not all of one opionion as to what our Creator wants us to do and some of us don’t believe in a Creator at all, it is dangerous to use on person’s or one groups faith as the basis for making law.

Palin was "Quayled" by liberals &

Nobama (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 3:29PM EST (link)

their friends in the drive-by media.

When she was first nominated, the digital brown-shirts who shlep for dailykos crucified her over… a pregnant, unwed daughter.

Moving on from their, they accused her of faking Trig’s birth in order to “cover up a scandal”.

When this “insta-scandal” was proven to be medically impossible, they went with the old Eisenhower-Reagan-GHW Bush-Dan Quayle-GW Bush attack: this person is dumb.

We’ve seen them do the same thing to Eisenhower, Reagan, both President Bushes, and, most effectively, to Dan Quayle.

No one ever questions Joe Biden’s intelligence. If Sarah Palin had made even one of Biden’s gaffes, the liberal-media echo machine would be demanding her removal from the ticket (which they’re demanding anyway).

No one ever questions Barack Obama’s intelligence. He must be smart because the media tells us so.

But the media has also concluded that Sarah Palin is an idiot. Because she believes in the Bible. Because she cherishes traditional values like the one about marriage being sacred.

There you have it. If you have the same values that Governor Palin has, the liberal-media establishment thinks that you’re dumb, too.

The Romney Revolution has already begun. Only Mitt Romney can bring sanity back to Washington.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Press On !

Mary_Contrary (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 4:06PM EST (link)

Thank God for a candidate who has enough guts to stand up for what’s right instead of just tickling ears.

You go, girl ! Press on !

Raven

pwest (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 4:08PM EST (link)

do you think McCain/Palin has a chance to turn PA from blue to red?

Pam

I just was told on Ace that

PaRep (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 4:26PM EST (link)

The Internal Polling for McCain has him down Low Single Digits, If he is down low single digits he WILL WIN Pa.

And again look where the candidates are campaigning Sarah was in Pa. all day Yesterday Obama had for stops in Philthy yesterday & Biden is in Scranton today & is basically lived there, That ought to teell you that both campaigns Internal polling is saying the same thing

 
 
 

BEAUTIFUL; JOHN MCCAIN PRAY...

Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 4:41PM EST (link)

… every single night that you picked Sarah Palin to be your running mate.

Palin and the base

Jill1066 Sunday, October 12th at 4:47PM EST (link)

“Palin is loved by the base on the right, despised by the base on the left and not very appealing to those in the middle.

Her approach is very different than Reagan.”

You’ve made a couple of points that I find puzzling. You say that Palin is appealing to only part of the Republican base, then you say she’s good for the base but too polarizing for the general electorate, and then that Reagan was a beloved figure.

No politician is completely adored by all wings of his/her party. Sen. McCain is a good example of that. Gov. Palin wouldn’t have been my choice for the VP spot because I prefer a candidate with a longer term as governor or more experience at the national level. However, she’s grown on me. She’s smart, a natural campaigner, and even the accent/shrill voice is starting to bug me less. With more time to see her in action some of that polarization may fade. Keep in mind the media rollout was done poorly and she was subjected to an unprecedented avalanche of hostile coverage.

Reagan was adored by many by the end of his presidency and by still more in hindsight, but he was loathed by many at the start of his term. The press portrayed him as an idiot ex-actor and reckless cowboy. The left fanned the flames that he’d get us into a war right away. Europeans called him all kind of names of which “warmonger” was the kindest – remember the British Labor Party was pushing unilateral disarmament to make nice with the Soviets at that time so deploying missiles to NATO countries was unpopular.

People needed time to see Reagan in action and realize he was a great man before they could appreciate what the conservative members of the base knew a long time earlier. Palin might experience a similar course of earning respect if she gets the chance. Reagan got the chance because Carter was an unmitigated disaster and people decided he had to be fired as long as the other choice was remotely acceptable. Hopefully, the electorate will conclude that Sen. Obama just isn’t a good choice this time around. Otherwise, we’ll have time to see how Gov. Palin develops as a potential candidate for national office.

winning PA

Jill1066 Sunday, October 12th at 4:55PM EST (link)

PaRep, I hope you’re right, but I’m not sure there are enough McCain voters in PA to overcome the blue cast the state has taken on. A few weeks ago I thought McCain could take the state particularly with all the hunters and gun enthusiasts here. Then the economy tanked. Plus Acorn has been active with its fraudulent registrations in this state. The state has changed. Rick Santorum was interviewed a few weeks ago when McCain was up in all the polls and within about 5% in PA – he said PA could help get McCain to 300 electoral votes but not to 270.

It will be really telling to see what happens when Rendell’s term ends. If the Dems win the governor’s mansion again it will upset a long tradition of the governorship switching parties every 8 years.

 
 
 

From AoS!!! Ben Smith at Politico is sitting on a Story

PaRep (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 4:58PM EST (link)

He is Supposedly within a few points

PaRep (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 4:59PM EST (link)

Of Obama

A Hunch on PA

Uma Richie (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 5:16PM EST (link)

In 2004 Luzerne and Lackawanna counties went to Kerry. The 11th district where Lou Barletta appears to be leading over Democratic incumbent Paul Kanjorski contains most of Luzerne County and part of Lackawanna county, including the city of Scranton. This may be where the McCain is picking up votes.

Here are links to the maps if you’d like to see for yourself:

PA results by county 2004

PA 11th District map

Personhood

Jill1066 Sunday, October 12th at 5:16PM EST (link)

“The pro-abortion lobby has given up on arguing whether the unborn is human, they concentrate now on “personhood”, a term that does not even exist. A person, as defined in the dictionary is a human. No qualifier, no meeting of some ephemeral sentient status.”

I’m a pro-choice Republican which makes me a distinct minority. The GOP has remained my team because of its general attitude towards fiscal conservatism and strong national defense. I support Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin despite disagreeing with them on abortion because I think there are way too many other issues that are far more critical at this point. Plus, I can respect people that I disagree with if they act on deeply held convictions. John McCain is a man of principle. Sarah Palin appears to be a woman of principle.

For me it’s not “personhood”, but when the rights of a fetus equal those of the female carrying it. I draw the line at the point the fetus is viable with medical assistance – that’s around 20-24 weeks. When it comes to Sen. Obama’s actions and statements about the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, I can’t respect him. He lied about his votes and the IL version of the law. Obama failed to face up to the fact that his actions amounted to supporting neglect leading to death of infants. Maybe they would have died anyway, but abandoning them as trash to die alone is unconscionable. If his stance is enough to disgust someone like me who is pro-choice and has followed the abortion debate for decades then it’s certainly enough to disgust those who are neutral or slightly pro-life. As such, it’s a perfectly legitimate issue to tackle and Gov. Palin is doing a good job of highlighting it.

I'd love to see PA go red...

Jill1066 Sunday, October 12th at 5:31PM EST (link)

I truly don’t think McCain can win here, but it would literally make my year if he did! He’s got my vote, that of my parents, probably my brother’s, and a couple of Libertarian friends who say the Obama campaign called to try to convince them to vote for Obama.

Hopefully, McCain can keep it close. It just sets my teeth on edge every time I see ads for Obama on television or hear them on the radio. It galls me to hear Obama claiming to be in favor of cutting taxes.

Go Barletta

Jill1066 Sunday, October 12th at 5:55PM EST (link)

It will truly drive the pro-illegal immigrant amnesty forces crazy if Lou Barletta gets that congressional seat. It wouldn’t surprise me if Acorn has a special office up in Hazleton trying to register non-citizens to vote against him.

ben smith is such a tool... politico should just adopt the obama pres seal for itself n/t

Michael Parrish (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 6:11PM EST (link)

n/t

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I'll put it this way

Raven (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 6:12PM EST (link)

In Murtha’s stronghold, in the very Center of his Core of support, the Dems barely managed to work up less than 100 protesters who had no energy or planning going into an event attended to by over 5,000 people in support of McCain and Palin.

They may not win, but it looks like Murtha is done for.

“If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
Luke 22:36

He's also getting votes from Murtha's district

Raven (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 6:18PM EST (link)

Murtha’s district is Heavily military and working class. Working class whites Still hate Obama (“Bitter Clingers” was a popular theme from the signs and posters brought to the rally) and Murtha is a local drag on Obama’s support with his recent history as concerning the military.

“If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
Luke 22:36

Thanks for another reason to hope.

Uma Richie (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 6:25PM EST (link)

I am still phone banking in the very red South Central part of the state in hopes of negating all the graveyard and ACORN Obama voters in Phila and Pitt.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Moe, why can't Republicans admit that abortion is already a political issue,

CroakerNorge (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 6:27PM EST (link)

And the left made it one. Palin was hit hard at the beginning of the campaign because she reject abortion, that single issue is “The Defining Issue” for women everywhere.

If McCain doesn’t want abortion to be an issue, why did he not say so at Saddleback. He rightly proclaimed his right to life stance for 20 years in government. I don’t know whether abortion has become a splitting point for McCain and Palin, but it sure was one for McCain and the Republicans. Republicans were not excited about McCain until he chose Palin, and the the single most important issue for Republicans was Palin’s support for life. It would seem very stupid to walk away from that support.

You say that you are not an Evangelical. It’s not just an evangelical issue. The Catholic Church has warned that the Democrats are becoming the party of death (a bit extreme, wouldn’t you say), effectively excommunicated Gov. Sebelius and Joe Biden, and it’s likely a matter of days before the same thing happens to Pelosi. It matters to a lot of people. It cannot be said loud enough: it matters to a lot of people.

If it does not matter enough to McCain to defend life it in the campaign, he deserves to lose Republican support. If McCain wants to lose honorably, he should have said so during the primaries. A lot of us Republicans don’t want to lose at all. Any future fingerpointing after an election loss will not hurt Palin, particularly if abortion is a primary issue. It will hurt McCain.

I don’t know that there is actually a split between Palin and McCain. I hope there is not. But if there is, Palin will be considered the Party Loyal. McCain may have problems claiming that title.

Obama voted for infanticide. Pure and simple. Evil.

Also Raven all the D's going to Jail, With more to come

PaRep (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 6:31PM EST (link)

& no Big elections Senate Governor

 
 

Who is viciously attacking Gov. Palin?

hunter (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 8:02PM EST (link)

Not mainstreet America.
She is being attacked by the people who see her for what she is:
A very effective woman leader.
The elites hate her with a viciousness I have not seen since Reagan ran.
Don’t buy into the nostalgic rewrites the lefties are doing now.
They hated him.
He was stupid, asleep, controlled by Nancy, senile, deliberately evil, shallow, out of control, reactionary….basically everything they say about Gov. Palin.

hunter

Yea, right...

nivlem (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 9:03PM EST (link)

George Washington alone was up at 4:00 a.m. reading the bible…their fear
was repeating the errors of where they
came from.

Their guidline was the Bible and God’s
teachings. That is repeated many, many
times in historical documents.

Their structure was to save the people
from government dicatating what religion they would follow. Not that
Government would be isolated from God or
his influence.

 
 

This brought me to tears

nivlem (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 9:10PM EST (link)

She speaks for so many of us, male and
female.

I cannot imagine the millions of us that
have either chose to terminate, or whose
“significant other” terminated without
our knowing, or chose to teminate a
pregnancy for the fear of having a
“child with special needs” how all must
feel because they have a “voice” now.

The anger, fear, and disolution of self
worth that many have gone through whether they terminated a birth or went
through it has just been given a voice.

Thank you, Sarah Palin…we will continue
to pray that God’s wings protect you ….

Thanks,

pwest (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 9:27PM EST (link)

Pa! No time now to give up the ship. We must stay engaged and enraged, no matter what all the talking heads say, and turn out, turn out, turn out!

Pam

Are you David Brooks in disguise?

peg_c (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 11:20PM EST (link)

Whatever, you are as wrong as he is.

Government cannot be the solution when government is the problem.

 
 
 

I just sent this video to my entire family

peg_c (Diary) Sunday, October 12th at 11:56PM EST (link)

Very moving, and while only some of us in the family are church-goers, we all identify with Palin here.

My step-daughter and her hubby both have genetic issues in their families, including Down Syndrome in a sibling. They considered and then rejected the recommended genetic testing and we have what appears to be a perfect baby girl in the family, not quite 4 months old. She is the joy of the entire family. They were very brave to consider and reject testing and the resultant possible life-altering decision that could have forced. They welcomed the baby God intended just the way Sarah Palin speaks of here.

Palin’s stance and words really hit home with all of us.

Government cannot be the solution when government is the problem.

Would someone please explain...

John_Wayne (Diary) Monday, October 13th at 12:10AM EST (link)

What in the Hell is a liberal republican? Sounds like an oxymoron to me. There is a place for liberals…a place they seem to thrive…it is the Democrat party. What am I missing here?

“Gentlemen, you can’t fight in here! This is the War Room”
President Merkin Muffley

 
 

Was telling my wife...

John_Wayne (Diary) Monday, October 13th at 12:15AM EST (link)

I think there has to be something seriously wrong with a person’s mental health if they can truly hate a woman like Sarah Palin. She has a loving heart, a sweet smile, and kind spirit. What has she ever done to bring out so much pure hate from these people? I just don’t understand.

“Gentlemen, you can’t fight in here! This is the War Room”
President Merkin Muffley

That's an odd statement, shoeflyguy--

Flagstaff (Diary) Monday, October 13th at 2:15AM EST (link)

“Claiming that we should write or enforce laws based on Christian theology is unAmerican.”

Or maybe not, depending on your meaning of “theology.”

Any truly religious person has to admit that some of his decision process is shaped by his religious beliefs, at least Christians must, but Christianity is so inherently tied up in the concepts of Right and Wrong as well as philosophical ideas of our relationship to God that to say otherwise would reveal a non-Christian trying to pass.

Yet most would reject the idea that any law should be enacted because “the Good Book demands it” or “because God tells me to,” but they would not object to a law that grows out of the belief that it’s the right thing to do–protect the weak and defenseless being an example. After all, there is nothing LOGICAL about a desire to protect the weak, in fact it’s quite illogical at a personal level. Only when one looks beyond the personal to the effect on the whole society does one appreciate how selflessness can be good in practical ways.

I’m no Biblical expert by any stretch of the imagination but my opinion is that most of the ethical/moral concepts taught in the Bible would stand the logical test of being effective promoters of the general welfare. Thus, a proscription against killing one another is generally a good thing, whether a Commandment tells us so or not.

But there are many of us who might say that we learned the difference between good and bad from both our parents and in Sunday school, and the learning process included both rote memorization at first followed by inductive and deductive reasoning as we matured. I would argue that this is ethical and moral training, not theology.

So, if your statement is aimed at laws that restrict the behavior of the public because the day is Sunday (or Saturday, or Friday) and therefore “holy,” I agree with you 100% (I think). But if you mean that we can’t restrict other activities because they are included in some list of sins found in the Bible, I say that it depends on the sin and not upon the fact that the Bible has already identified it.

I just went back and read some more of your comments further downstream. Of what I read, I find myself pretty much in agreement with you.

I also went back and listened to Sarah’s video above. She does sound like a new-age preacher when she talks, and that is probably off-putting to some people. But Bill Clinton sounded like a tent-meeting revivalist preacher if you listened to his sound and not his words. There’s nothing wrong with that; it’s just a sound.

At this point, I see no problem at all with her or her religious beliefs. She said, “There are the world’s standards of perfection… and then there are God’s, and these are the final measure.” To me, that conveyed the idea that while Trig might not be considered “perfect” by some human evaluation, she thinks that God might have a different standard. As long as she doesn’t claim to “know what God’s standard is” I see no problem with her belief at all. In fact, it reveals a mind open to the idea that it (she) can be wrong in her own opinions, and that contemplation (prayer to some) is appropriate before acting.

I’ve never heard Sarah claim that our laws should be based on “God’s law.” Stated that way, I would take issue with her (but I’d think she was probably using shorthand speech for her concepts of Right and Wrong, not literally taking the words of the Bible an putting them into law). I think you are making the same distinction.

“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964

“Clinging to their guns and their religion”

broken (Diary) Monday, October 13th at 2:23AM EST (link)

Obama’s desire to not see his daughters “punished” with an out of wedlock pregnancy seems, upon initial hearing, a solemn care for his children’s well-being. Upon proper discernment, it is insight, and possibly historical foresight, on Obama’s, Reid’s and Pelosi’s target after the November election: the US Constitution. Each would prefer that US citizens commit to disavowing their religion and placing safety locks on their disassembled guns. In fact, Obama, a part-time theologian, would prefer that you following his Biblical interpretation that justifies same sex marriage:

Washington DC, Mar 6, 2008 / 05:09 am (CNA).- Democrat presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama in a speech before a Hocking College crowd on Sunday claimed that the Sermon on the Mount justifies his support for legal recognition of same-sex unions, Cybercast News Service reports.

His off-the-cuff slights lend some insight into his observance of the US Constitution. He has challenged our freedom to bear arms and our freedom to follow the tenets of our religion. His work with ACORN and marriage to the media lends us insight on our freedom of speech. The Bill of Rights protects freedom of speech, freedom of religion and the right to keep and bear arm. If he subtly challenges the foundation of the Constitution then, we can be assured that his views towards life will be radical as well.

The Bill of Rights plays a central role in American law and government, and remains a fundamental symbol of the freedoms and culture of the nation. The Bill of Rights prohibits the federal government from depriving any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law. If a person is a human being then, that individual is entitled to the same freedoms that any citizen—whether born in Hawaii or living in Indonesia—possesses. The origin of life is the question. Barack “That’s Above My Pay Grade” Obama believes that life begins when the infant makes it to the hospital crib. Respecting to disagree with those that disagree with him, Barack Obama is a champion of reproductive choice and will preserve women’s rights under Roe v. Wade. He opposes any constitutional amendment to overturn the Supreme Court’s decision in that case. He supports abortion—the termination of a pregnancy by the removal or expulsion of an embryo or fetus from the uterus, resulting in or caused by its death—and infanticide—the practice of someone intentionally causing the death of an infant. These are acts of death and not life. Such acts deprive life itself, the opportunity to receive mercy and grace through the liberties of the law or obtain property through due process.

The person and the process are Creator ordained. If not for the sperm of a father and an egg of a mother, there would be no zygote. The person reproduced should be protected at all costs since it can not protect itself. We think of our soldiers as being in harm’s way. However, they have garments for protection and armament for attack. The zygote has neither. The process is certainly not man-made by origin but, Creator driven. For this reason, we call it re-produce as no man or woman can naturally produce a zygote of their own individual will. Such a process points to a living Creator that encourages His creation to choose life over death. Life is a person and a process. The Constitution is the bond by which a people with inalienable rights should protect each fully.

Sarah also did wonders in North Carolina Victory Rally.

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Monday, October 13th at 4:41AM EST (link)

I was another powerhouse rally for the Republicans and Conservatives.

http://wizbangblog.com/images/2008/10/Palin%20050%20%28600%20x%20450%29.jpg

If only McCain speaks like Sarah, he’ll captivate more Conservatives and pro-life Democrats.

Post Turtle

wennejunk (Diary) Monday, October 13th at 5:57AM EST (link)

“even a powerhouse like” Obama.

You know, he’s articulate and all that, but I’m kinda thinking he would not be where he is without a lot of help.

There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, ‘Thy will be done,’ and those to whom God says, in the end, ‘Thy will be done.’ -C. S. Lewis

Ok, wennejunk... I stand corrected. LOL!

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Monday, October 13th at 8:35AM EST (link)
 
 
 
 
 

I don't

pwest (Diary) Monday, October 13th at 9:03AM EST (link)

care if McCain speaks like Palin are not. Conservatives/Republicans/Libertarians, listen, McCain is McCain; he’s a war tested, honor driven man who will not go hard after Sen Obama; he’s letting Palin do that.

We cannot afford four years of Obama. Those of you, like me, who are pro-life don’t bite of your nose to spite your face. We are one JUDGE away from overturning Roe and sending this issue back to the states where we can finally have the debate we should.

Please if you can’t turn out for McCain, turn out for Palin! Remember, the News Media is already saying that she is blowing it for McCain; that Palin is losing support. If McCain goes down because we stay home, Sarah Palin goes down with him, and she may not have the future everyone is talking about!

Pam

Four years

gadawg225 Monday, October 13th at 9:53AM EST (link)

is a long time in politics. I think her problems with independents comes from the media portraying her has not knowing enough to be president. But in four years, she’ll have had enough time to gain more knowledge and articulate her stances with more precision.

At the end of the day, she is unapologetic about her conservative values, and is a natural on the stump. She could potentially be a great nominee in four years. It’s too early to tell.

Good points

gadawg225 Monday, October 13th at 10:01AM EST (link)

Also, I don’t agree with the notion that the left tends to lose by electing candidates who appeal to the base, and that we’d be repeating that by nominating her in 2012. The Democrat party picked Kerry in 04 because they thought he was the most electable. You see what that got them. We nominated Bush in 2000 over McCain, in large part because he was closer to the base on the issues… and Republicans won.

Exciting the base in recent years has proven the better strategy than trying to find the most electable person. Palin excites the base.

You have a valid point ...

skorrent Monday, October 13th at 10:16AM EST (link)

When you say: “when the rights of a fetus equal those of the female carrying it.”

This consideration has me favoring “choice” in cases of rape and incest, where “involuntary servitude” is the alternative. However, when the voluntary actions of a “female” result in the condition of incipient motherhood, I consider the care of her offspring to be every bit her obligation as if the infant were one week or one month or one year old.

As they say: “the best prevention of pregnancy is an asperin tablet — held firmly between her knees.”

 
 
 
 

Well, then

Jvette Monday, October 13th at 11:58AM EST (link)

For me it’s not “personhood”, but when the rights of a fetus equal those of the female carrying it

Your statement opens the door to some lives being more equal than others. This belief leads to genocide which is what abortion has been. The Jewish people were disarmed and left vulnerable. Few stood up to defend them, and those who did suffered the same fate. Eventually, it was easy to pretend that Jews were somehow less equal, less deserving of rights and killed in unbelievable numbers.

When one class of people, those born, are allowed to dismiss as non-equals another class of people, the unborn, then it is a tyranny that leads to a holocaust.

A life is a life, in whatever stage it exists, no matter how intelligent, productive or of value to others.

God has placed obvious limits on man’s intelligence but none what-so-ever on his stupidity.