Um. No, Elizabeth Snead. You *can’t* shoot your foot off that way.


It's complicated - actually, well, no it's not.

In the process of reporting on a stock photo grabbed by Newsweek for its cover of Governor Palin, the LA Times snarks:

Hey, is that even the right way to hold a rifle? Can’t you shoot your foot off like that?

Take a look:

At least they didn't call it an assault rifle.

Now, if you don’t understand why people are laughing, then I suggest that you show the photo to a conservative that you haven’t ticked off yet [UPDATE: or a liberal who likes guns, many of whom seem quite determined to visit this site expressly to tell me off], and wait until he or she stops laughing long enough to explain it to you.

Via Ace, who notes: “These are the people who presume to set the gun control policy for this country.”


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Dear L.A. Times

KBDay (Diary) Wednesday, October 8th at 9:34PM EST (link)

This is why liberals are better off leaving defense of home and property in the hands of conservatives.

However, conservatives are ready, willing and able to teach you how to carry your gun properly in the field so it doesn’t go off and blow your wittle tootsies off.

We will gladly take you hunting, and so we don’t upset your wittle thensitivities, we will take you hunting for little clay pigeons instead of real ones. Be sure you don’t cook the clay pigeons though.

Gawd. The L.A. Times ain’t worthy of cleanin’ the mud off Palin’s boots.

best, Kay

KB Day/The US Report

“Good judgment seeks balance and progress; lack of it eventually finds imbalance and frustration.” (Eisenhower)

 

mccain's temper [I like this video better.]

plainsgirl Wednesday, October 8th at 9:41PM EST (link)

[I also know how to make it load properly, but that's just me being snarky. - Moe Lane]

Not sure I want him in charge of our homeland defense either… [I was going to cross that out, but it's funnier if left up.]

 

"show the photo to a conservative"

someone Wednesday, October 8th at 9:46PM EST (link)

Or any bitter clinger…

Keefums, DeConcini, and random media quotes?

Crowe (Diary) Wednesday, October 8th at 9:47PM EST (link)

That’s your evidence?

Man, and I as all psyched up to see McCain actually blow his top and tell a liberal weenie like you what a stupid, pathetic, desperate, liberal weenie you are.

What a bunch of crybabies: “Oh! Senator McCain hurt my feelings! Oh! He’s EEEEEEEeeeevilllllll!”

They can’t even find a single piece of footage of McCain actually blowing his top? Pathetic.

Off with you; before someone drops a house on you too…

“We sleep soundly in our beds only because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence upon those who would do us harm Dear Leader Obama gives us leave to do so.”

 
 

not all

oneman Wednesday, October 8th at 9:54PM EST (link)

democrats are city folk who don’t understand guns. I’ll admit, I hate hearing non hunters in the media talk about guns as if they actually know anything about it. First of all the firearm she is holding is a shotgun (not a rifle). If you think democrats can’t hunt or properly defend themselves with a gun then I suggest trying to break into my home or go hunting with me.

I did say "if," oneman.

Moe Lane (Diary) Wednesday, October 8th at 9:59PM EST (link)

Obviously, you got the joke right away.

 
 

What if I have an NRA card AND an ACLU membership?

Andromsoft_ Wednesday, October 8th at 10:01PM EST (link)

I sure hope the LA Times doesn’t set gun control policy for this country. That IS a scary thought.

That said, come to Austin, Texas. We’ve got plenty of liberals here who have been members of the NRA since before they knew what the ACLU was.

Just because you’re educated and have a class consciousness doesn’t mean you don’t know what a loaded shotgun looks like. But those stereotypes are typical of the anti-intellectual movement in this country.

Shotgun?

Madisonu Wednesday, October 8th at 10:05PM EST (link)

Isn’t that a shotgun? And not a rifle?

I just wanna say...

I was a retread named Zombie Flanders / randomkid. Wednesday, October 8th at 10:09PM EST (link)

I am a Democrat and a big-city person, and have never fired a gun (me and some of my friends are gonna go to a shooting range one of these days, but there is not exactly one down the street), and even I can tell that she isn’t about to shoot off her foot. And even if it did look like that to me I would assume she knows what she’s doing more than I do (at least wrt this…)

Yep

Putter (Diary) Wednesday, October 8th at 10:10PM EST (link)

Darn nice O/U trap gun.

Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies…

 
 
 
 

Just because you're educated and have a class consciousness

mbecker908 (Diary) Wednesday, October 8th at 10:11PM EST (link)

doesn’t mean you don’t know what a loaded shotgun looks like.

No, it means you’re a damn fool.

 

Shotgun w/Broken Breech

rbdwiggins (Diary) Wednesday, October 8th at 10:13PM EST (link)

Clearly, intelligence is not required to opine on the pages of the LA Times.

“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.” – Ronald Reagan

All right, all right: I will update to assauge the pricked honor...

Moe Lane (Diary) Wednesday, October 8th at 10:14PM EST (link)

…of our Democratic visitors who like guns. Solely because I know and am friends with an urban Deaniac who quite likes pistol shooting, much to her surprise. :)

 
 

Hand to the face moment

phxg (Diary) Wednesday, October 8th at 10:15PM EST (link)

nt

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. –Aristotle

Fools that recognize a loaded shotgun.

Andromsoft_ Wednesday, October 8th at 10:18PM EST (link)

being educated means you’re a damn fool? explain.

 
 

Love a couple of the comments...

Darin_H (Diary) Wednesday, October 8th at 10:20PM EST (link)

Good catch. That is a 50 caliber automatic street-sweeper cop-killer assault weapon. Not only could she have blown her foot off, she could’ve killed every human within a 1000 yard radius. Which she would’ve probably enjoyed, since she loves to kill things. She is terrifying, and I have nightmares about her every night.
Hold me.

Posted by: Stace | October 08, 2008 at 06:34 PM

You’re dead wrong, Stace. Everybody and his dawg knows that she’s holding an atomic howitzer capable of lobbing a 155mm cobalt-enhanced warhead from Alaska to a target in California, wiping out all intelligent life. (Unless of course the target is a newspaper office, in which case the effort would be superfluous.)

Posted by: Dissident Egghead | October 08, 2008 at 07:02 PM

A visionary coward says that anger can be power, as long as there’s a victim on TV – Flat Top, Goo Goo Dolls

 

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Brian Simpson (Diary) Wednesday, October 8th at 10:21PM EST (link)

:D eep breath:

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!

I laugh in your general direction, Elizabeth Snead!


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Important principles may and must be inflexible. ~ Abraham Lincoln

Anti-intellectual? Moi?

Moe Lane (Diary) Wednesday, October 8th at 10:22PM EST (link)

Northeastern English major with two years of graduate school and about five thousand books in my library. As for class consciousness… first generation in four not to be blue-collar union. Because the real goal of the working class in America is to get your kids out of it.

But I agree: stereotyping is such a bother.

 
 

That is funny!

tcgeol (Diary) Wednesday, October 8th at 10:30PM EST (link)

You’ve got to wonder, though, can anyone really be that ignorant or is she just pretending?

I’m certainly not one to hold up leftists as paragons of wisdom, but even they shouldn’t be that stupid.

Just your typical bitter gun- and God-clinger

Even the Left admits we’re Right

Fools

Putter (Diary) Wednesday, October 8th at 10:40PM EST (link)

If you recognized a loaded shotgun in this photo and talked about the NRA, then the fool and/or troll label fits just fine.

Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies…

 
 

It can't be a shotgun. Where's the magazine?

tankertodd (Diary) Wednesday, October 8th at 10:40PM EST (link)

Sincerely,
A New York Liberal Turd-Dummy

———————————
The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race – Chief Justice Roberts

 

Here in the Democratic People's Republic of Kaliforniastan...

Augustine Wednesday, October 8th at 11:02PM EST (link)

The left thinks that guns fire magic bullets that magically go to their targets so yes she could shoot her foot off with an unloaded shotgun if… it was firing the magic bullets. Ever notice that the only person on TV who doesn’t shoot from the hip is Jack Bauer? Hollywood has no understanding of firearms.

“Not everyone born free and equal, as the Constitution says, but everyone made equal. Each man the image of every other; then all are happy, for there are no mountains to make them cower, to judge themselves against.” – Fahrenheit 451

 

Silly me...

JoeSixpackAmerican Wednesday, October 8th at 11:16PM EST (link)

I thought she was holding idiot-repellant on her shoulder.

www.JoeSixpackAmerican.com

 

Silly me...

JoeSixpackAmerican Wednesday, October 8th at 11:16PM EST (link)

I thought she was holding idiot-repellant on her shoulder.

www.JoeSixpackAmerican.com

Loaded or not,

Canthros (Diary) Wednesday, October 8th at 11:22PM EST (link)

very few guns fire with the action wide open like that, Andromsoft.

Maybe IF there are cartridges in the breech, you could set ‘em off with a steady hand, a nail and a swift tap of a hammer. Pulling the trigger isn’t going to do it, though. Might damage the firing pins, though.

This too shall pass.

 
 

You have to read the comments on LAT

sebis (Diary) Wednesday, October 8th at 11:46PM EST (link)

You have to read the comments on LAT website, I was rolling on the floor laughing.

my gut hurts, I laughed so damn hard/long

JLenardDetroit (Diary) Wednesday, October 8th at 11:46PM EST (link)

Wonderful, as the only person who “shot their own foot off” was the twit demonstrating no clue about what it was they were criticizing (Newsweek, not referring to anyone here – just wanted to be clear, we have some Libs lurking about and don’t want them to actually take offence as they still don’t get why this is funny)… They shot themselves in the foot trying to demonstrate how serious we are all supposed to take them when they “shoot their mouths off” (to maintain the analogy) with it “half cocked.” … just too funny ….

Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”


(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)

"that one"

JLenardDetroit (Diary) Wednesday, October 8th at 11:51PM EST (link)

I thought they’d be off trying to blow out of proportion the “that one” comment during the debate… lol

“That One” does NOT equal Perot “You People” but it ain’t stopping them from trying to get 1 + 1 to = 5

Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”


(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)

 
 
 

["HI! I'm a 9/11 Truther who hates Jews!"] the evil leftist media go all out

Patrick Keefe Wednesday, October 8th at 11:53PM EST (link)

["And I've been thrown off of this website!" - Moe Lane]

http://patrickkeefe.wordpress.com

Dem's who don't dislike Guns, still a few 'real' Dem's, not many

JLenardDetroit (Diary) Wednesday, October 8th at 11:58PM EST (link)

… still support candidates that would take them away if given the opportunity…

Notice how they (well, even the Lib’s/Dem’s around here have to admit, most Dem’s/Lib’s [those Commies a/k/a: "Progressives"] if not themselve) all still seem to peg GUNS = HUNTING… Not the 2nd Amendment…

Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”


(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)

Quite happily

Reaper0Bot0 (formerly Han_Pritcher) (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 12:03AM EST (link)

I’ve watched my party drift further and further away from gun-grabbing. Oh, I’m sure you’re still convinced they all want all of you guns, but this isn’t the 1980′s. That position was a loser, and one I disagree with anyway.

Glad to see things change, if slowly.

Death?

Reaper0Bot0 (formerly Han_Pritcher) (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 12:05AM EST (link)

And pseudo-whatnow?

Good Gravy!

Reaper0Bot0 (formerly Han_Pritcher) (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 12:13AM EST (link)

I am working on a library, Moe, but I’m left in awe. That’s ginormous. Hugemongous even.

Still, I make progress.

 
 
 
 
 

Reminds me of the time

Lammo (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 12:23AM EST (link)

shortly after 9/11 when Thyme or Newsweak or some other bird cage liner showed a Federal agent on the cover supposedly standing vigilant guard over our great land with an H&K MP5 that clearly had no magazine inserted. One shot from that one at most. There were similar photos (I think maybe from the LAT) of National Guard troops patrolling at an airport with clearly unloaded M16s. ROTFLMAOAPUMLHICB!

(APUMLHICB = and puking up my lunch help I can’t breathe!)

Don’t be so open minded that your brains fall out. (John Corapi, The Black Sheep Dog)

There is a difference between what they SAY and they would WANT to do

JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 12:37AM EST (link)

Don’t tell me Pelosi and the majority of house members wouldn’t (if they could get away with it), essentially repeal the 2nd amendment.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

The House? Maybe

Reaper0Bot0 (formerly Han_Pritcher) (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 12:41AM EST (link)

Wake me up when Tester, Reid, Dorgan, and the rest of the Western Senators are onboard with that one. Ain’t gonna happen, and we both know that.

Fine. But when the majority of Dems in the house

JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 12:43AM EST (link)

would prefer to take our guns away, it is a fair characterization of the democratic party that they are purposely holding back on what they truly believe in order to be presentable to the public.

Meaning, your reassurance above is actually quite hollow.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

I believe I said that

Reaper0Bot0 (formerly Han_Pritcher) (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 12:49AM EST (link)

Change of this sort comes slowly. More slowly than I would like, frankly. And not just because of the politics – I’m frankly more concerned with the policy.

Political parties don’t easily do 180′s. Even when they should.

But they haven't changed, they merely lay in wait

JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 1:01AM EST (link)

if there was real change of conviction in constrast to calculation, I wouldn’t have brought up the point.

If Obama were to win, I suspect that kind of discipline will vaporize.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

We'll have to see.

Reaper0Bot0 (formerly Han_Pritcher) (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 1:06AM EST (link)

This is an academic question, and neither one of us can “win” such an argument. Empirical evidence may be forthcoming. If we wind up with a good year for the Democrats and they do as you suggest, well, I’ll gladly admit you were right.

If they have both Houses of Congress (with strong majorities) and the White House and DON’T do it, I think we’ll know we’ve turned a page.

There really isn’t much else to say, friend. Neither one of us can read their minds. Past may be prologue, but past performance is no guarantee of future performance.

..pseudo-Jewish..

I was a retread named Zombie Flanders / randomkid. Thursday, October 9th at 4:51AM EST (link)

And let us not forget the pseudo-Jewish root of Leftism so that we know how this disease started in the first place.

que?

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Reminds me of the time........

Battleshort (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 7:02AM EST (link)

a few years back when Bushmaster in Maine was under attack for the AR-15. A “discussion” with a local anti-gun loon led to her saying ” Two Hundred and Twenty Three calibers!?! Why do you need Two Hundred and Twenty Three calibers!?!” It was most difficult explaining to her that .223 caliber was not all that big. Still laugh thinking about it!

Pro Deo Et Patria (For God and Country)

It's not THAT big, Han

Raven (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 7:09AM EST (link)

It just requires a lot more wall space than you’ll find in a 1500 sq ft house like mine (waah! I have books literally starting to form piles. Someone buy me a half million dollar house so I can store them properly…)

“If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
Luke 22:36

You mean that weapons isn't designed to fire

Raven (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 7:12AM EST (link)

that radioactive, depleted uranium bird shot intended for wiping out the Bald Eagle?

I guess I need to go back and relearn my guns…

“If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
Luke 22:36

Now be fair, Clive Owen and Paul Giamatti did pretty well

Raven (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 7:15AM EST (link)

with their weapons in Shoot ‘Em Up. The guys who made that movie knew what they were doing.

Come to think of it, so did The Duke way back when and, more recently, Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt in that Smith movie.

“If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
Luke 22:36

This reminds me a comment about comedy I heard a few years back

Raven (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 7:25AM EST (link)

Irony is making fun of people richer than you.

Satire is making fun of people smarter than you.

Burlesque is making fun of people who are richer and smarter than you while taking you’re clothes off.

“If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
Luke 22:36

wth?

Raven (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 7:26AM EST (link)

That comment wasn’t supposed to be in reply to anyone…

“If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
Luke 22:36

9/11 Truther, guys. Hard Right, flirting-with-ZOG type, apparently.

Moe Lane (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 7:49AM EST (link)

We ban those on sight, too.

I left the unformatted link up if anybody really needs to confirm.

There are plenty of examples of in court, where intent is inferred from circumstantial evidence

JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 8:08AM EST (link)

I am confident of my chances in a court room on this issue.If we were to look at actually speeches given by Democrat house members in places where they feel “safe”–I am confident we would find all sorts of little nuggets of proof.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

What a great picture!

John_Wayne (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 8:08AM EST (link)

No wonder the leftie Democrats hate her…she intimidates the crap out of them…she even looks good with a shotgun slung over her shoulder…I truly get it now!

“Gentlemen, you can’t fight in here! This is the War Room”
President Merkin Muffley

 

Kinda funny how.....

izoneguy (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 8:35AM EST (link)

they tried to do photoshop tricks with her shooting guns and now they see the real Sarah and they run off like little donkeys.

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.

 

The original Palin cover Newsweek wanted to use.

Martin Knight (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 8:40AM EST (link)

"http://ndn.newsweek.com/media/39/081004_COVER.jpg" width="384"
height="510" />

I wrote about it here.

It takes time, Han.

Moe Lane (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 8:49AM EST (link)

Time, and very sympathetic friends when it’s time to move.

Do you really believe that Obama wants to cut anyone's taxes?

JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 9:37AM EST (link)

I mean, the guy can’t point to even one instance where he even voted for a tax cut, much less proposed one.

This is the fundamental difference between Obama voters and McCain voters in this election.

McCain voters acknowledge where his campaign rhetoric diverges from his true self. Take immigration for example. We know that McCain would really like to pass comprehensive immigration reform but will not because of the political reality.

Obama voters buy hook, line, and sinker the pledge to reduce taxes on everyone making less than $250,000. Yet there is NOTHING in Obama’s record to suggest this is anything mroe than a campaign ploy.

Heck, Obama could have presented a bill earlier this year. Congress would have passed it. Bush would have signed it.

It is amazing to me how democrats see so many nefarious motivations in Republicans (war for oil, voter suppression based on race, etc.) but are unable to question in any even the possibility that Obama’s interest in cutting taxes is non-existent.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

 
 
 

I guess those idiots at the NRA

patriotroom (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 10:02AM EST (link)

have no idea how to handle firearms either. Here is a screenshot from their site.

I guess all NRA women know how to do that complicated carrying thing.

Here’s the link to the source page.

http://www.nraila.org/

Also find Bill Dupray at The Patriot Room

You don't need to be able to read minds,

The_Gadfly (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 11:14AM EST (link)

you just need to be able to count votes. As a party Dems vote reliably against the 2nd Amendment, Republicans for it.

 
 

Newsweek

Stayright Thursday, October 9th at 11:44AM EST (link)

is so clueless they probably thought that photo would hurt her with the people. Remarkable.

Okay, I'll take a stab.

The_Gadfly (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 11:53AM EST (link)

First off, there are two parts to the slam. The first part is “are educated”, the second is “have a class consciousness.” Now as this is a logical OR operation, that is if either of the two points is true the statement is true.

The easiest proof is from the “have a class consciousness” point. This statement can take many forms, but all of them are indicative of a Marxist philosophy. Marxists are all fools, even if some of them are bloodthirsty jackals who are good at killing people, like the left’s favorite icon, Che. You dropped that part in your reply.

The “are educated” part is a bit more complex. ‘Educated’ has meant different things to different people at different times. Aristotle believe the purpose of education was to indoctrinate students into the habits which would make them good citizens. Another common definition of the word is someone who is learned, that is, they have memorized a fair number of established facts about a reasonable cross-section of academic topics, and have learned how to logically reason from those facts. Around the time our country was being settled, most education was being done by churches. A prevalent theological argument was that if you taught people the common facts and how to reason they would reason their way to God. So they applied this second definition of educated. This therefore tends to be the way most Americans think of the term. However, around the time of John Dewy, the focus started to shift back toward the Aristotelean definition. With the ascendancy of the hard left-communist professariate and the advent of the NEA controlled primary school system, indoctrination into the ways of good citizen ship is now the primary purpose of ‘education.’ Despite that fact, some of us have still continued to learn. Our attitude is summed up by a button that was popular at sf conventions many years ago (maybe even still): Never let your education interfere with your learning. Anybody who completes the kind of education our schools currently provide and never grows out of it is a fool.

So this is the best OR of all, because both parts are true and anybody who has been educated and has a class consciousness is a fool.

Oh, now those are *funny*

itrytobenice (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 1:16PM EST (link)

Who knew readers of LAT were that good. And I’m serious. For someone to satirize them that well takes real talent. Nick Danger lives on.

Proper grammar saves lives.

Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.


Activists Taking Action: Unified Patriots

 
 
 

Well, now technically

itrytobenice (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 1:18PM EST (link)

That’s not a good way to hold your rifle. As in, if it does that, you broke it. :)

Proper grammar saves lives.

Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.


Activists Taking Action: Unified Patriots

WOW!

Mary28 Thursday, October 9th at 1:55PM EST (link)

I am so disappointed to see how some of you are behaving on this blog. As a undecided voter this is very much a turn off! I have registered on many of the different blog sites but have read nothing so negative as these comments! I do beleive some of you are giving christan Republicans a bad name! It just seems like sme of you are so scared of losing that you’re resulting to such lack of respect for a different point of view. I have family and friends of both politcal backgrounds and would never speak in such a hateful tone!! If McCain and Palin share these hateful views of liberals theirs no way he will get my vote. CLEAN IT UP!!!!!!!

Undecided Mary28

stang (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 2:10PM EST (link)

Would you be kind enough to post links to some of the websites you mentioned here in your post, so that we might better understand our lack of civility?

“Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any farther obedience, and are left to the common refuge which God hath provided for all men against force and violence.”

John Locke

The very last Solicitor General ...

skorrent Thursday, October 9th at 3:41PM EST (link)

Under the very last Democrat president submitted that it was the view of the (Democrat) DOJ that the 2nd Amendment applied to the collective right of the States (National Guard), not to individuals. That administration lasted through 2000, not the 80s. And the Heller decision was by one vote.

And you want to tell me this is not an important, and a partisan, issue? What party did the gun-grabbing LA governor and NO mayor belong to? That was 2005.

Easy

Mary28 Thursday, October 9th at 5:50PM EST (link)

I really don’t mean to offend anyone. That was not the point of my comment! I just think that you all are better than this petty stuff thats all. I just wonder if some bloggers really think
they are better than a liberal or independent and thats what I am seeing alot of on this blog. It kinda reminds me of rooting for your favorite college team ex. Alabama vs. Auburn you know! I just think that every year is not a good season and its not looking so good for the republicans. You know some years you get a bomber and you have to admit the out look is not so good. Doesn’t mean you don’t love your team or support your team. You just hope for a better year in 2012!! I ‘ve voted for republican presidents in the past so I’m not biased I just think that Hucklebee or Romney would have been more up to the challenge. I’m not going to even talk about how disturbing I find Sarah Palin!! Are their any other women or men on this blog that find her a little scary? I mean I am a very educated woman and she is just not what I expected McCAin to pick.

Not to be picky, but ...

skorrent Thursday, October 9th at 6:02PM EST (link)

There are some large caliber O/U and double breech-loading rifles.

Easy? Then where are those links undecided Mary28?

stang (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 6:23PM EST (link)

No offense taken. I asked only for links to the other sites that you contend will support your intial contention of our incivility here at RS.

Would you please provide them?

Thank you.

“Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any farther obedience, and are left to the common refuge which God hath provided for all men against force and violence.”

John Locke

UMMMMM First of all

PaRep (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 6:29PM EST (link)

it Huckabee!! not Hucklebee

Definitely smells like a Koncerned Khristian Konservative to me

sorry

Mary28 Thursday, October 9th at 7:34PM EST (link)

http://www.democrats.org/blog.html
http://www.demconwatchblog.com/
Foxnews.com

P.S. Do you see what I mean about the insults? Take a chill pill and relax! This is not help making the case or convincing me to vote for your ticket!!

Excuse me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mary28 Thursday, October 9th at 7:40PM EST (link)

Sorry I made a type-o! Somebody forgot to take their happy pill!lol!

Well if you're "Undecided"

PaRep (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 7:44PM EST (link)

Tell me What Obama has to do after all this Fawning coverage in the Drive By Media to convince you & the same with McCain???

You're so obvious a three year old could see through you.

Martin Knight (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 7:46PM EST (link)

Give it a rest, why don’t you? We’re not sheathing the swords until after the election, capiche?

Your brain is a terrible thing to waste.

mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 7:56PM EST (link)

And you’re wasting it.

I’m not going to even talk about how disturbing I find Sarah Palin!!

So, you’ve got your panties in a wad over Sarah. But the Presidential Nominee of the EvilParty™ can hang out with domestic terrorists – actually more than that, he worked closely with one over a period of nearly ten years – can do a 180 on every position he took in the primaries, etc, etc, etc, and he’s fine with you.

You are an obvious product of the public school system in this country. And a poster child for why vouchers are so important and the Dept of Education should be shut down. Sheesh.

well here goes.....

Mary28 Thursday, October 9th at 7:56PM EST (link)

All I need to hear from McCain is a plan. All I am hearing from McCain or Palin are attacks. I don’t care about that I just want to hear a concrete plan on Health Care, The war, and more importantly the economy. I feel I know where Obama stands I need to know more about McCains PLANS…. I think I might feel more comfortable if he had picked Huckabee or Romney! It just seems Palin is made of no substance on any interview I have seen of her!! Do you not agree he should have picked a stronger canidate especially with him being 73 yrs. old and God I hope he holds on to the grass cause heavens a lot closer for some of us than others. I mean this for both of the canidates!!! With so much bigotry and hate who knows if someone will try to take off Obama. God forbid this would happen but, I would definitly feel more comfortable with Biden than Palin!!!!!That woman scares the HELL out of me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OUTED A TROLL, DUMB ONE TOO

PaRep (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 7:59PM EST (link)

or, on the other hand

David Hinz (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 8:00PM EST (link)

trolls can never spell the word

David Hinz (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 8:02PM EST (link)

MAY GOD BLESS YOU

Mary28 Thursday, October 9th at 8:04PM EST (link)

I guess oyu are much better than me with all of your glory! You are so right about how I received my so called basic education from public school where I received a full ride academic scholorship to Vanderbelt University!!! So I’m sorry if I don’t meet your standards of success!! Thank you for helping me to understand why I should be placing my vote for Obama/Biden!!!!!!!!!
THANK YOU.

OH I'm sure We convinced you to vote for Obama

PaRep (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 8:10PM EST (link)

Vanderbelt?

ILLINOIS_CONSERV (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 8:24PM EST (link)

Is that like the University of Phoenix?

The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing – Edmund Burke

If Sara scares you...

Putter (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 8:24PM EST (link)

then you are wasting time here. Most of us are disappointed that she is not at the top of the ticket. As to the war = win. There is one, and only one, way to win a war. You convince the other side that you will never rest until they either capitulate or die. That is why every politician that said the was was a lost cause has blood on his hands. Every negative utterance gives a terrorist the courage to go on one more day or kill one more soldier. As to the economy, I sincerely hope John McCain plans to do exactly nothing but keep taxes low and increase our carbon footprint by 25% in his first hundred days.

Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies…

That was possibly the dullest staged come-to-Obama moment...

Moe Lane (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 8:27PM EST (link)

…I’ve seen all week. Are we done?

Yes, we’re done.

Blam.

Bwhahahaha!

David Hinz (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 8:30PM EST (link)

you beclown yourself. You are a pimple-faced-one-handed-poster living in your mom’s basement.

You never came here with any other purpose than to be an irritant.

I call HINZ RULE!

Scholorship ??? Vanderbelt !!!

PaRep (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 8:32PM EST (link)

D’OH !!!!!!!!!!

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Guns

izoneguy (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 8:54PM EST (link)

Just came back from the range.
Packed, Packed….the store said they were going nuts….

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.

wow I finally see where the members of the short bus come to socialize!

Mary28 Thursday, October 9th at 9:42PM EST (link)

You can’t honestly be serious!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vanderbelt is a quality school

Jack_Savage (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 9:46PM EST (link)

Or is it the latest fashion accessory? I’m not quite sure…

 
 
 

stop drinking the red coolaid!!!

Mary28 Thursday, October 9th at 9:54PM EST (link)

Its okay to admit that you would have never voted for a unqualified person such as Palin for president!!!!!!!!!!!! She can only win your hearts now because you to are so thirty for CHANGE!!! Put the cup down my friends!!!!!!!!!!

Coolaid?

DrOldSchool (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 9:58PM EST (link)

Do they serve that at Vanderbelt?

Or you spelled it wrong because you wouldn’t want to support a product of a successful multi-national business?

“Is it a third party we need, or is it a new and revitalized second party, raising a banner of no pale pastels, but bold colors which make it unmistakably clear where we stand on all of the issues troubling the people?”

- Ronald Reagan, 1975 Speech to CPAC

Vanderbilt is a high quality school

Mary28 Thursday, October 9th at 9:58PM EST (link)

I would like to know what great schools you went to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vanderbilt is a high quality school

Mary28 Thursday, October 9th at 9:58PM EST (link)

I would like to know what great schools you went to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mary, Mary quite contrary

Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 10:01PM EST (link)

how does our economy grow?
With long Red spells, and Dems expelled
and conservatives all in a row.

Tim Schieferecke

[Odd.]

Mary28 Thursday, October 9th at 10:01PM EST (link)

[We're looking into it, really. - Moe Lane]

Who cares about Palin...(VP)

dbecraft Thursday, October 9th at 10:02PM EST (link)

We care that Obama might be elected president and his Socialist ideas may become law. You should be worried also…

But…if you are poor and or uneducated, no money, and looking for help, he is your man. Take from those that have and give to those that do not… Your ideal governemnt – heh.

Won’t go into the problems with this as you would not believe it even if I tried…

Formally known as Deagle… “Golf is a way of life…”

Moe?..Little blue pills for Blamstick malfunction

speciallist (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 10:04PM EST (link)

If you had any friends...

Putter (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 10:06PM EST (link)

you would not be trespassing here.

Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies…

[Heh.]

Mary28 Thursday, October 9th at 10:08PM EST (link)

Exactly where we differ!!! I do feel the right as being an educated, financialy stable blessed individual to give gack to those who are less fortunate than myself. I guess its the humanity in me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[OK, I was going to replace entirely, but "to give gack" was just too funny. - Moe Lane]

Really....What were your SAT scores??

Steve Maley (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 10:11PM EST (link)

~

The blogger formerly known as ‘Vladimir’.

Okay, then please do it on your own

dbecraft Thursday, October 9th at 10:15PM EST (link)

and don’t require everyone else to participate in your giving by force! When you do it on your own, you are a humanitarian, when you make others participate, your are a fascist!

Making others do what you wish is not democratic! What would you call that?

Formally known as Deagle… “Golf is a way of life…”

I don't know what her SAT's were

Jack_Savage (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 10:23PM EST (link)

But if they allowed her to use exclamation marks on the verbal, I would say “quite high”.

Hey John wayne...Sarah rules my world...Welcome to my World

speciallist (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 10:26PM EST (link)

Palin / McCain 08

She was crying..

Putter (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 10:32PM EST (link)

out for attention. She is probably in bed now, hirsute and alone, as usual.

Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies…

You make my point better than I ever could.

mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, October 9th at 10:32PM EST (link)

First of all, I really don’t know what you mean by “success”.

I can, however, tell you what it’s not. It’s not attendance at a university, any university.

In the real world, we measure people by accomplishment. Based on your brief tenure here, you’ve got none, or at most, precious little.

You can feel free to run off and tell your little friends how you told us off and showed us up for the Neanderthals we are. Please.

my bad...

JoeSixpackAmerican Saturday, October 11th at 9:09AM EST (link)

I thought she had just slung idiot-repellant over her shoulder.