The New York Post is offended by Biden’s debate lies.


Hey, they *said* "lies." They *said* that they were offended, come to think of it.

They started off with the least serious one, so that offense may be mildly jovial:

Some, of course, were just Biden being Biden. He smeared Dick Cheney as “the most dangerous vice president we’ve had probably in American history.”

To which we must take specific offense: After all, the founder of this newspaper, Alexander Hamilton, was killed in a duel by then-Vice President Aaron Burr. (Certainly Burr was a better shot than Cheney.)

But that’s a matter of opinion.

Actually, not really. Burr was planning secession and treason while still Vice President. You’d think that Biden would know this…

:snapping fingers: Right, he’s in regular contact with Barack Obama’s NatSec Ignorance Field now. It’d be about now that the first effects would become obvious.

Anyway, the Post gets a little more serious after this.

The NY Post takes Biden apart on a variety of his natsec gaffes – and his one on clean coal, which is honestly too good to pass up any relevant chance to bring up – but this is in some ways the important one:

“When . . . along with France, we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon, I said and Barack said, ‘Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don’t, Hezbollah will control it.”

Huh?

Assuming that Biden was referring to when, in 2005, American and French pressure helped the Lebanese people kick Syrian troops out of Lebanon, who ever thought NATO occupation of that deeply divided country was a good idea?

Let me put this the way that my scientist friends might: Senator Biden, you’re not even wrong. But let’s bring Michael Totten in on this one. Michael?

In Thursday night’s vice presidential debate between Senator Joe Biden and Governor Sarah Palin, Biden said the strangest and most ill-informed thing I have ever heard about Lebanon in my life. “When we kicked — along with France, we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon, I said and Barack said, “Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don’t know — if you don’t, Hezbollah will control it.” Now what’s happened? Hezbollah is a legitimate part of the government in the country immediately to the north of Israel.” [Emphasis added.]

What on Earth is he talking about? The United States and France may have kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon in an alternate universe, but nothing even remotely like that ever happened in this one.

Nobody – nobody – has ever kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon. Not the United States. Not France. Not Israel. And not the Lebanese. Nobody.

Yeah. Pretty much. If you’re the sort to get the hives from seeing the letters “CFR,” try the International Crisis Group, which likewise makes it clear that Hezbollah didn’t go anywhere. Heck, even Human Rights Watch admits that they’re still there and targeting Israel. What happened in 2005 was that a moderately successful anti-Syrian movement broke out; I say “moderately successful” because Syrian influence in the country is still strong, and if you believe some people, is exercised through groups like Hizbollah. So nobody’s really been “kicked out” at all, honestly – and while we’re on the subject: just when did you or Senator Obama call for the NATO occupation of Lebanon after the Cedar Revolution? That somehow slipped under my radar: lots of other people’s, too, judging from my Google searches.

Moe Lane


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Double standard?

mmmayes Saturday, October 4th at 10:18AM EST (link)

Unfortunately more in the media don’t think what we would do with troops in a Middle Eastern nation is as important as whether a candidate says “You betcha.” Several million more saw David Letterman’s creative editing on his Friday show than will see the truth about Lebanon.

 

it's easy to "win a debate" when you lie

bags64 Saturday, October 4th at 11:02AM EST (link)

aided and abetted by the willing accomplices in the mainstream media.

 

OK guys, can you help me find it?

itrytobenice (Diary) Saturday, October 4th at 11:03AM EST (link)

someone here posted a link to a commentator who said something on the lines of: I could be a physics expert as well, if I just posted whatever I wanted to say without regard to whether or not it was true.

Then something along the lines of the earth turning because a mouse was running counterclockwise on a small wheel in the interior of the earth. Not clockwise, mind you. Only counterclockwise.

I’d sure like to find it again so I can read it to hubby.

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Jonah Goldberg

cwilson (Diary) Saturday, October 4th at 11:12AM EST (link)

in The Corner.

If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! –Samuel Adams

 
 

I'm confused

phxg (Diary) Saturday, October 4th at 11:13AM EST (link)

Does this mean that the NYP desires a return to the days when elected officials would duel to the death on the lawn of the White House?

Perhaps it’s time for a 2 Men Enter, 1 Man leaves electoral strategy, because I think McCain can take Obama.

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. –Aristotle

 

The Most Dangerous #2

ntrepid (Diary) Saturday, October 4th at 11:16AM EST (link)

These attacks on Mr. Cheney are always quite amusing to me. In him (actually, his mythical MSM persona) the Democrats and the media have created the perfect bogeyman for all occasions. It will be interesting to see their reactions when history finally records him as probably the most relevant VP to-date for our republic. Or, maybe his legacy will just seem extra shiny against the irrelevant-arrogant backdrop of the Mr. Gore-Mrs. Clinton (respectively) duet that served as Mr. Clinton’s number two. But, I digress.

I’d really like to address this topic of most dangerous VP. U.S. history is littered with irrelevant, even unfilled VP offices so the pool is smaller than many may imagine. Certainly, it is hard to argue that the infamous Mr. Burr was bad before, during, and after his term. His actions were definitely dangerous at times…I just thank God that he was the one to step forward to fill that slot in history and not someone of greater character who may have succeeded in those misguided endeavors.

With that all said, the grand prize winner on my list of “Most Dangerous #2 in US History” goes to none other than Mr. Thomas Jefferson. Although the written history of his later career significantly shadows and blurs his performance as our countries second VP, it should be remembered how active he was in undercutting and orchestrating opposition to the first US President not to enjoy the honor and respect carried with the name “George Washington”. The country and our government were very young and very fragile in those days…Mr. Jefferson’s games were extremely dangerous.

Not to mention, he was a Democrat so this fits nicely into my overriding agenda.

Ntrepid

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Thank you kindly.

itrytobenice (Diary) Saturday, October 4th at 11:19AM EST (link)

I appreciate it.

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I Think You Have To Throw Henry Wallace in There Too (n/t)

IJB Saturday, October 4th at 11:37AM EST (link)

How about LBJ?

bk (Diary) Saturday, October 4th at 12:08PM EST (link)

Depending on which version of JFK’s assassination you prefer, he might rise to the top.

http://www.rense.com/general40/thewnk.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2006/300806jfk.htm

if it's a VP duel...

Hammer2008 (Diary) Saturday, October 4th at 3:03PM EST (link)

one would assume that Palin would easily take down Biden… blindfolded.

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MSM Standards

Davo (Diary) Saturday, October 4th at 8:38PM EST (link)

David Rodham Gergan said Biden gave ,”the performance of his life.”
Absolutely amazing. I can’t even imagine what these people talk about when they get together.

Never Give In, Never, Never, Never

 
 
 
 

Too good to be true

OCBill (Diary) Saturday, October 4th at 10:27PM EST (link)

I said and Barack said, “Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum.

McCain should ask Obama about this in the next debate. Maybe NATO can help out with North Korea, too.

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