And, yeah. The Democrats messed it up. They messed it up real good, to the point where we’ll get the usual rash of commenters who’ll sign up solely to tell us that thesituationisverycomplicatedandyoucantputtheblameonanyonepartyorpersonespecially
OBAMAOBAMAOBAMAOBAMAexcusemeinervousticthere… after they see that I’ve posted this.
But I digress. So, you want to go there?
Then go here to RightChange.com and see what they have to say. Here’s a taste:
Or, hey, you can sit back and just let the next four weeks happen. Your call.
Steve Maley
Moe Lane
Dan McLaughlin
Neil Stevens
people keep complaining that McCain
Doc Holliday (Diary) Friday, October 3rd at 10:47PM EST (link)is pulling out of MI, and these great ads will not be aired widely. Well, I have a simple proposal, and here it is.
send the campaign some money
thanks for reading.
Molon Labe!
This is a start
hunter (Diary) Friday, October 3rd at 10:58PM EST (link)I agree with Doc: More money. Wide airing.
Telling the truth about democrats is more important than playing bipartisanship, as democrats define bipartisanship.
hunter
This bullsh*t with the economy should
Wintergreen (Diary) Friday, October 3rd at 11:20PM EST (link)NEVER happen again.
In order to succeed in that it’s vital that the correct problem is diagnosed so as to fix it.
The problem:
1) Banks getting pushed by Democrats to give bad loans to people who can’t pay them back.
2) Fannie and Freddie WEREN’T part of the free market because their risks were backed by the government.
3) Since Fannie and Freddie weren’t controlled by free market forces, they needed regulation, which democrats stupidly shot down at every opportunity.
The free market itself is under attack, and if McCain and Palin don’t wake the hell up and start fighting for it and fighting to end the Democratic cancer inside it (see above 1-3) THEN I’M NOT VOTING FOR THEM.
This was McCain’s big opportunity. He fought for stuff that would have prevented it and OBAMA WAS A LAWYER FIGHTING FOR SUBPRIME MORTGAGES FOR ACORN.
If McCain blows this opportunity he is a fool.
The truth is seeping out now
Wintergreen (Diary) Friday, October 3rd at 11:23PM EST (link)but the Democrats and the liberal media were lightning quick in painting blame, false as it was.
Republicans are dumb if they don’t push back against this nonsense.
The democrats clearly caused this mess, but if no one realizes it then our country is just setting itself up for an even bigger fall.
Kenya is calling
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, October 3rd at 11:36PM EST (link)Yep, like the “fall” into Marxism. I am sure Raúl Castro will be the first
“leader” to visit President Obama.
Obama will pledge 50 Billion to help Cuba. Next he will nationalize the oil companies and remove all restrictions on drilling and use that money to fund his “save” Africa movement. I wish he would save America by moving to Kenya and help his own Obama’s.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
Plenty of blame to go around
concerned_american Saturday, October 4th at 12:41AM EST (link)I consider myself mostly an independent,
and generally a lurker on Redstate, but
this continuing trend to blame the
Democrats as the sole cause of the financial situation
does finally make me feel I need
to post something. There is plenty of
blame to go around on both sides of the
aisle. To fault a party that has been until a year and a half ago, in
a minority in Congress for over a decade,
and has not held the Whitehouse for the
last seven plus years seems a bit
spurious at best. Leaders are elected to lead after all. Believe me, I’m certainly no fan of how the Democrats have legislated or acted, and haven’t voted D in anything above a city level in more years than I care to admit on my drivers license, but if the Republicans
want to truly win independent voters,
adhering to some part of the ‘society of ownership’ they espouse might be a good start. Hearing Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin rail against
Wall St. greed and McCain’s calls for Cox to resign are something positive to note, but
when the pundits from the right continue
to suggest this is all Pres. Clinton’s or
the Democrat’s fault, that really doesn’t
carry a lot of water for me, maybe it
does for some.
Half expecting a ‘blam’, but since I live in a non-battleground state, I’ll probably be
voting third party, again.
Cheers,
Patrick
I think
Pomme (Diary) Saturday, October 4th at 12:45AM EST (link)you’ll notice a good many of us here saying yes, there are some Republicans who shoulda/woulda/coulda, but the lion’s share still lies with the Dems on this one. Don’t believe me? Ask President Clinton.
“Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views” William F Buckley Jr.
I turned into a RINO today...but in a Good way
speciallist (Diary) Saturday, October 4th at 1:04AM EST (link)n/p
I do notice
concerned_american Saturday, October 4th at 1:08AM EST (link)It’s one of the reasons I like reading
redstate. There is more dissent, and much
more intelligent commentary, than on
most political websites. But to claim that a party that has controlled
two branches of the Federal government
for 70% of the last decade is not
responsible for at least an equal amount
of blame, again, seems either not logical,
or points to a party that has not led,
or is not capable of leading. I’m not saying that is true, but the current economic situation doesn’t speak well of how things have been run in Washington or on Wall St. for multiple years.
Either point doesn’t lead to winning
independents votes for Republicans, but that’s just my opinion.
Cheers,
Patrick
95%
Wintergreen (Diary) Saturday, October 4th at 1:12AM EST (link)This was 95% the democrats problem.
Does giving away hundreds of billions of dollars in mortgages to people who can’t pay them back sound like something the Republican party would be interested in?
I thought not.
You will never get around these facts:
1) Jimmy Carter (democrat) passed the Community Reinvestment Act.
2) Bill Clinton passed laws pushing banks into subprime mortgaging in 1995.
3) Fannie and Freddie weren’t controlled by free market forces because they were backed by the government.
4) The democrats denied there were any problems with Fannie and Freddie and scuttled the efforts to regulate them by not letting bills out of the committees and playing the race card.
Like I said, this was 95% democrats. Republicans began fighting to regulate Fannie and Freddie in 2001.
No party "controls" the Senate without 60 votes
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Saturday, October 4th at 1:16AM EST (link)and absent a President or congressional majorities, the dems have stopped expanded oil drilling and the building of any new oil refineries or nuclear power plants since 1978 and the clean up of Fannie since 2003 with filibuster threats.
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
Right on schedule. You know the drill.
Moe Lane (Diary) Saturday, October 4th at 1:25AM EST (link)1,500 words on the origins of the credit meltdown: start with the actual beginning in the 1990s, of course. Write it up, send it in and we’ll think about turning your account back on.
Moe Lane
PS: Full points for trying to play Mr. Reasonable, but the price of admission for Democrats who want to discuss this situation is acknowledging that the problem started back
before the Contract with Americain 1995. [Brain freeze on my part: this is what I get for being too cute about stuff.]The Kim Kardashian of blogging.
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Texas Tom Saturday, October 4th at 1:40AM EST (link)Independent counsel/investigation?
“I will name names! I will make them famous!”
Time to saddle up and ride to destiny, trooper.
I feel more like I do now, than when I got here…Anon. NAF Diego Garcia, BIOT, 1982. Defending Reagan’s America.
concerned_american???
Matthew Morris (Diary) Saturday, October 4th at 1:53AM EST (link)Surprised that one was still available. That’s the quintessential turfin’ name right there.
“I AM WHO I AM”; and He said, “Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.’”
Ipsum esse subsistens
If McCain will not do it
hunter (Diary) Saturday, October 4th at 5:45AM EST (link)hunter
this is an important point, gamecock
pilgrim (Diary) Saturday, October 4th at 6:44AM EST (link)Recently Bill O smacked Rep. Frank real hard for his complicity in the Fannie and Freddie debacle, and rightly so. However there were Republicans in a majority of the House that did not want to press to reform Fannie and Freddie. There were no parliamentary processes that prevented the GOP controlled House from getting something done. Instead there was a fear of losing the next election for being mean and racist to poor ol Fannie and Freddie. One further however is that even if the GOP in the House at that time had found the courage to do the right thing and get a bill through then it would have died with a filibuster in the Senate. Because of the power Senators wield as a minority with filibusters maybe the Democrat Senators should be smacked down over this debacle more than any others.
At least this troll has the "moderate's" standard "both sides" asininity down pat.
Martin Knight (Diary) Saturday, October 4th at 8:26AM EST (link)“Moderates” haven’t come up with anything more original than this for three decades. Heck, during the Alito hearings, one self-proclaimed (and very proud of himself) “moderate Republican” tried to impress me by looking all thoughtful and offering that “both sides” were to blame. I’m pretty certain his self-esteem took a while to recover.
To get back to this fraud …
Maybe. But only to an idiot with amnesia who cannot remember beyond what he had for breakfast.
I was under the impression that the whole filibuster brouhaha of two/three years ago has already established that the minority party in Congress is not entirely powerless to stop or seriously impede the passage of legislation.
Really, you astroturfers need to get smarter.
Republicans
roxer Saturday, October 4th at 9:24AM EST (link)would not fight it harder because they would be labeled “racists” and “bigots” by the opposition. It’s not hard to see why they didn’t get farther. Democrats and liberals are using the race card now – just look at the current presidential race. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that out…
“Where I stand does not depend on where I’m standing.”
–Fred D. Thompson, 2008
agreed - good points - nt
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Saturday, October 4th at 10:01AM EST (link)5
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
Should have added Jim Johnson to that ad.
RJD (Diary) Saturday, October 4th at 10:03AM EST (link)There might, I say might, be Republicans to blame in this mess. But, the principal figures all have a “D” as their party affiliation. Frank, Dodd, Obama, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton.
President Bush and John McCain both attempted to reform these institutions in 2003, 2005 and 2007 and each time, the Corrupt Democrats blocked the needed legislation and defended the corrupt practices.
And now we have a larded-up bailout that will probably not fix a damn thing and will only create more trouble down the road.
The Democrat Party – America’s Folly.
More, please.
http://www.activistsandiego.org/wwwboard/viewtopic.php?t=18389 Saturday, October 4th at 10:05AM EST (link)I appreciate the level head, here. I am brand new to blogging and have only browsed redstate a bit over the past few months, finding a lot of piling on of divisive rhetoric.
I am wondering about the credibility of rightchange folks. Admittedly, the challenge to credibility comes mostly from left blog folks like these: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132×7306984#7307383. If you follow the link, you may notice that I have posted there questioning heir position. I am also posting here to question your position.
Meager as it may be, my hope is to help elevate the rhetoric (in the classic meaning of the word) or, better, help elevate dialogue.