Sorry: I got comprehensively shut down on the internet about 40 minutes in, so you all had to lose my deathless prose. Such as it was.
First impressions: Obama was prepared, but not comfortable – and he got less and less comfortable as the debate went on. There were at least two or three times where he tried to needle McCain, and about four or five where McCain successfully needled him. Oddly, in some ways Obama flubbed worst the economic answers, most of which he didn’t actually answer. In contrast, McCain just looked happier to be there; if you asked me which one was supposed to have the temper, I’d say Obama. There was a spot on the ABC news feed where Obama was grinning, then went right to a scowl; video pranksters, take note.
Also, as I noted in the live-blogging before I got shut off, the progressive movement needs to understand that Obama really does love you, baby: it’s just that he gets so worked up sometimes. He’ll make it up to you, really he will. It’ll just be like the old days, just you and him. So… where’s your purse?
Brutal? Sure. So was the way that he shafted them on missile defense, offshore drilling, nuclear power plants, and how swell Petraeus is.
Moe Lane
PS: Will it help McCain? Beats me: I’m a GOP partisan. I certainly feel a heck of a lot better about supporting the guy after this debate, though – which is nothing to sneeze at, after the week we’ve had.
Daniel Horowitz
Neil Stevens
Steve Maley
Jake Walker
McCain Won
PaRep (Diary) Friday, September 26th at 10:04PM EST (link)http://www.intrade.com/
Everything I am seeing/reading...
dragonmg Friday, September 26th at 10:08PM EST (link)…is suggesting McCain was the clear winner. Drudge has a poll in the right hand column, and McCain is winning easily with 72% of the votes (though the DailyKos people will probably play their shennanigans overnight).
McCain won
BuckeyesforMcCainPalin (Diary) Friday, September 26th at 10:23PM EST (link)Dick Morris says Obama won (and he’s the only one who is saying this, even the Kos Kids are saying it was a tie). Therefore, McCain won.
Dick Morris is
PaRep (Diary) Friday, September 26th at 10:31PM EST (link)NEVER EVER RIGHT !!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry, I almost forgot.
dragonmg Friday, September 26th at 10:37PM EST (link)As I was watching the debate, I was moved when Sen. McCain spoke of the bracelet that he’s worn for over a year of a KIA Soldier. His mother give it to Sen. McCain. He spoke passionately about that bracelet.
He was visibly emotional when he spoke about it, and used it to reiterate a point that we NEED to be in Iraq, so our sons and daughters, and their sons and daughters, don’t have to go there. He was speaking about decisive victory.
The part that prompted this post, however, was Sen. Obama’s reaction. He said he ALSO had a bracelet, and it was visible on his right wrist. But the part that got me?
He had to pause to read the name.
Sen. Obama lost every single shred of credibility with me with that one single act. Anyone who wears a KIA bracelet knows the name, the date of death, and the branch of service by heart. That’s kind of the whole point.
So they aren’t forgotten.
Somebody should tell Sen. Obama that it’s in remembrance. It’s not a “crib sheet”.
He's suffering from early stage of senility.
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Friday, September 26th at 10:38PM EST (link)At least Krauthammer has an excuse.
Obama caught out on expenditure freeze
john_barry Friday, September 26th at 10:47PM EST (link)McCain caught Obama on the economy. McCain mentioned a freeze in expenditure. Note Obama funked the issue. He waffled. He had to admit that many of his promises could not be fulfilled. So the supposed tax cuts are all hot air. ALL bluff. When it came to it Obama could not take a hard decision on a freeze. Of course business taxes will go up.
Obama was also damaged on earmarks.
To win the next debates McCain needs to sharpen his points on the economy and energy. Obama is a Big Government sitting duck.
McCain must target the middle class more in his statements.
john barry
The reaction is visceral
SG_Lominac (Diary) Friday, September 26th at 10:58PM EST (link)The pundits are giving us the “no knock out blows” split decision etc. but in fly-over country, the grown-up in the room was John McCain.
From the movie “Hard Times”
Jill Ireland: “What does it feel like to knock somebody down?”
Charles Bronson: “It makes me feel a hell of a lot better than it does him.”
what is with Charles Krauthammer??
Jack (Diary) Friday, September 26th at 11:05PM EST (link)Ever since Sarah Palin was chosen to be the Veep pick he has been brutal on McCain and her. I do believe his misogyny is showing badly.
Jack
“If at age 20 you are conservative you have no heart. It at age 30 you are liberal you have no brains.” Sir Winston Churchill
Obama's Pinocchio moment on nuclear energy
jphamlore (Diary) Friday, September 26th at 11:33PM EST (link)Senator Barack Obama is lucky he is not Pinocchio, because his nose would have threatened the audience with its length after his daring to mention nuclear energy without the slightest actual inclination to do anything should he become President other than what Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton did.
What I find especially appalling is that the Democrats killed a very promising method to both generate fuel beyond current supplies and greatly reduce nuclear waste, the Integral Fast Reactor, that was developed in Senator Barack Obama’s own state of Illinois at Argonne National Laboratory! I wish John McCain would use this as an example of how it is the Democrats who are killing scientific and engineering progress for religious reasons.
McCain won the Debate in a Landslide
SirGladiator (Diary) Friday, September 26th at 11:57PM EST (link)Clearly most people who have expressed an opinion have stated the obvious, that John McCain won tonight. He won the debate in a landslide, on all fronts. He won it on points, he won it with style, he won it on the facts. You really can’t do much better than that. Granted, as they pointed out repeatedly on Fox, Obama didn’t have any obvious gaffes (although perhaps in the days ahead that thing about Obama needing to read the name on his bracelet to know whose bracelet he was wearing could become the gaffe of the night), but he didn’t need any, he just couldnt overcome the War Hero’s grasp of the facts on every issue. He took to agreeing with McCain, over and over, which was smarter than disagreeing and getting smacked down once again.
After tonight, if McCain can pull off a really sweet deal on the bailout thing, basicly kill the bailout aspects of the bill and turn them into loans, as Newt Gengrich pointed out, basicly making it a free market deal instead of pure socialism, saving the taxpayers a LOT of money in the process, he will move well ahead in the polls. Then if, as I anticipate, Governor Palin defeats Senator Biden in the dbeate, that will effectively clinch the election for McCain.
I do agree with the point made about Krauthammer, his comments about Palin as well as the comments about the debate tonight were just bizarre, very illogical, and misogyny has to be considered the most likely cause. Its a shame that there are a few like that on our side, but we can take pride in noting that there have been FAR more cases of misogyny involving Democrats attacking Hillary earlier this year, than there have been Republicans attacking Palin. Hopefully those few Republicans will go crawl back under their rock and those of us living in 2008 can enjoy the show without their ignorance.
The bottom line is a great night for McCain, a big big win, if he follows it up with a win on the budget he’s going to be a huge favorite, and if that gets followed up by a Palin debate win next week its pretty much all over. Oh what a difference 24 hours can make in politics
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