When I heard that the protest of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s latest visit to the United Nations would be graced with the presence of both Senator Clinton and Governor Palin, I was pleased. It’s a nice thought that the two parties could agree on one thing, at least: that it’s important to remind the UN that just because they like having would-be genocidal maniacs wandering around their offices, we particularly don’t. So we send our people over there, and make our statement.
Yeah. The Democrats just made a statement, all right. And it’s not a very nice one, either.
Clinton Cancels Rally Appearance After Learning Palin Invited
WASHINGTON — Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has canceled an appearance at a New York rally next week after organizers blindsided her by inviting Republican vice presidential candidate and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, aides to the senator said Tuesday.
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Organizers said Tuesday that both Clinton, who nearly won the Democratic nomination for president, and Palin, Republican candidate John McCain’s running mate, are expected to attend.
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“Her attendance was news to us, and this was never billed to us as a partisan political event,” said Clinton spokesman Philippe Reines. “Sen. Clinton will therefore not be attending.”
To start off with, this isn’t “blindsiding.” The Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations can invite anybody that they darn well please – and they decided to invite an openly pro-Israeli State governor. Yes, she also happens to be the GOP nominee for Vice President, but let me pour some cold reality on certain of our lurkers: sitting Governors are hot-ticket items in their own right. In other words, Sarah would still be there in an alternate universe where she didn’t get the nod for VP, but did happen to be in NYC that week anyway.
I’m disappointed – first, for the way that the general message (which is very important for both Ahmadinejad and the UN to hear) was subverted in favor of the very thing that Clinton’s people used as an excuse for withdrawing: petty partisanship. Second, I’m disappointed in Senator Clinton herself. This was beneath her. I mean that sincerely: I’ve never been a habitual Hillary-hater, and I’ve always thought that she’s been a perfectly respectable and conscientious Senator. Too liberal for my tastes, but New York elected and re-elected her, so clearly they disagree. But something like this makes me wonder if I’ve misjudged the woman.
It would be nice to find out that Clinton realizes that she simply made a bad call, which she now regrets and will reverse…
Moe Lane
Steve Maley
Neil Stevens
Daniel Horowitz
Agreed.
Hozzie Wednesday, September 17th at 1:22AM EST (link)This is a disappointing decision.
However, I understand why Sen. Clinton does not want to make the appearance. She perceives that the media will simply take the opportunity to compare the two female politicians rather than deal with substantive matters the subject of their appearance; i.e., the visit of a wannabe genocidal madman to the United States.
Maybe I’m giving Sen. Clinton too much “benefit of the doubt”… I don’t know.
Doesn't want a circus
clintonformccain Wednesday, September 17th at 1:47AM EST (link)Senator Clinton is walking a very fine line. She has gone out of her way to not attack McCain or Palin. But, it is also a virtual certainty that she has been threatened by the Democrats with losing all of the committee assignments and other payback options. She’s smart to avoid a circus sideshow.
In other news:
a) A major Clinton fundraiser bundler and member of the DNC Platform Committee, Lynne Forrester/Lady de Rothchilde, is endorsing John McCain tomorrow.
b) John McCain will be a keynote speaker live at the William J. Clinton Global Initiatives Conference in New York later this month. The Democratic nominee will speak by teleconference.
A heads up. There are MANY Clinton supporters quietly voting for McCain/Palin. To the extent that you guys can embrace these voters and even nudge your party towards the center, there is the potential for a bi-partisan center governing majority. The disaffected Clinton voters are more or less in line with “Rockefeller Republicans”. Fiscal responsibility (pay as you go, etc.), diplomacy backed by the stick of a strong military, and liberal on the social issues. I think I speak for many of us in saying that we are digusted with the Democratic Party and looking for some party, any party, that is willing to speak to centrist voters.
I understand Hillary.
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Wednesday, September 17th at 2:40AM EST (link)She’s under the strict observation of Michelle. Those malicious and dreadful eyes!
Hillary only knows what is good for her.
Clinton supporters moving to Mc/P?
Hozzie Wednesday, September 17th at 2:42AM EST (link)This could be right. It’s very difficult for me to gauge Clinton-supporter support for McCain from here in Australia (seriously).
It’s also impossible to nudge people in the right direction – we don’t get to vote (and it’s just as well).
So here’s hoping McCain/Palin appeal to the middle more than Obama/Biden… I think they will (fingers crossed!)
That's not the choice
clintonformccain Wednesday, September 17th at 3:02AM EST (link)The choice for a significant percentage of Clinton supporters is not Obama or McCain. It’s:
a) Don’t vote
b) Write in Hillary
c) Vote Nader just to stick it to the lefty kook running the Dem party. (2000 Nader is still a sore subject)
d) Vote McCain/Palin.
After the DNC rigged the primaries like a third world bannana republic, voting Obama is simply not an option for many Clinton supporters.
I personally moved from the a) b)or c) column to the d) column with the Palin selection. I was afraid it would be Romney. As a Massachusetts resident, I couldn’t vote for that fraud again. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice….
Of course others are “yellow dog” Democrats, meaning they would vote for a yellow dog if her were the nominee. Don’t interpret their votes as any fondness for Obama. My wife is a yellow dog Democrat, but it’s eatin’ her up inside. She was all gung ho for Obama to run in eight years. Now, she can’t stand the guy.
Why crossover is possible
clintonformccain Wednesday, September 17th at 3:16AM EST (link)One more point. The reason that McCain is able to attract Clinton supporters is that, despite their policy differences, Clinton and McCain have always been the two “grown-up” candidates in the race.
Agree or disgree with their positions, both of them take their public service very seriously. Both are “stand-up” guys for their issues, whether it’s earmark reform for McCain or insuring every child in America for Clinton. They both walk the walk. They also both understand how government works and have a track record of working across the aisle. And, finally, both of them are tough old bastards.
Strange, strange, strange
Leverkuhn (Diary) Wednesday, September 17th at 3:28AM EST (link)I don’t know whether to be insulted or astonished. No one could reasonably infer from the protest organizer’s decision to invite both women that they endorse either woman’s politics.
“Senator Joe Biden is … a man so full of cr*p his speeches bear an awful resemblance to twenty minutes of flatulence preceded by ‘Good evening ladies and gentlemen,’ and followed by ‘God bless America.’”
- Leverkuhn
Hillary will miss her husband's favorite world leader-LINK
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, September 17th at 4:35AM EST (link)March 5, 2005
Report from Davos
Who Should Apologize to Whom?
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
This is a mistake by Hillary.
Vinnster Wednesday, September 17th at 4:58AM EST (link)This is a mistake by Hillary. It only makes her look more partisan in the face of a great cause. She put the party above doing the right thing. Even on the PUMA boards they are saying she should not of pulled out. Not to mention many Jews will see the Republicans standing up for them and the Obama party not.
So much for her political instincts...
Jack (Diary) Wednesday, September 17th at 6:18AM EST (link)There is no one who is Jewish that I know (a very small sample I assure you) that is not voting for John McCain. Of them none are saying it publicly. Actually two of them are saying publicly that they are Democrats and have always voted for the Democrat for the Presidential election; a nice dodge but a dodge.
I can see her bowing out, but the way she did was heavy handed at best. How much would it have taken just to make up a last minute excuse? Surely if anyone has ever said “not tonight I have a headache” it is Hillary Clinton.
Jack
“If at age 20 you are conservative you have no heart. It at age 30 you are liberal you have no brains.” Sir Winston Churchill
Shrillary's Calculations
Strelnikov (Diary) Wednesday, September 17th at 6:45AM EST (link)Following Dick Morris’ rule that nothing the Clintons do politically is ever devoid of some long-term calculations, one asks the question: why does she do this, if it seemingly is not wise?
As mentioned above, in a TV contest between her and Sarah Palin, she loses: shrill, 60-ish vs. stylish and 40-ish. In an attention-getting contest at th protest, Shrillary would lose.
Second: this would appeal to the Democrat base, as it seems to be in support of Big Brobama. “I refused to play games with Republicans! They tried to hijack a protest, but I wouldn’t go along!”
Third: It can be used to appeal to the radical pacifists on the left-wing. “Why are we further irritating the strained relations with Iran caused by the Bush administration? We should be talking with them, not protesting.”
As for the Jewish vote, it is taken for granted by Democrats, even if it is sliding away. Joseph Epstein in the Wall Street Journal a few days ago mentioned this. As a percentage, it is not that significant in contrast to Hispanics and Afro-Americans. Obviously some Democrats are willing to kiss it good-bye.
Why any Jew would be voting Democrat outside of inertia is beyond me, but inertia explains the psychology of many people.
As of November 4, 2008, the Code Words will be: “Klaatu – Borada – Nikto!”
Huh?
benning Wednesday, September 17th at 6:48AM EST (link)How do two people from competing political parties appearing at the same place become a partisan political event? Utter nonsense! Seems English is not Mr. Reines’ native tongue.
“If I knew what I was doing would I be here?”
That's a great way to put it
bk (Diary) Wednesday, September 17th at 7:10AM EST (link)It seemed easy to sense that Hillary had a much higher level of respect for McCain than for Obama.
Smart move: she cannot be seen as endorsing Palin
olderthangandalf Wednesday, September 17th at 7:19AM EST (link)Hillary did the only thing she could, and if the organizers really were unaware that she might have problems with this, they are idiots.
Palin is trying to wrap herself in the Hillary mantle. Hillary doesn’t like that for a couple of reasons – their politics could not be more opposed, and she doesn’t want to hand off the female Presidential contender crown just yet.
What’s more, she’s got 2012 to think about. In the quite possible event Obama loses, the last thing she needs is pre-election video footage of her standing side-by-side with Palin. While she desperately wants Obama to lose, she cannot in any way seem to be making that happen or to be cheering on the other team.
This is a no brainer for Hillary.
Oh that's what it's doing
thefruitcakedave Wednesday, September 17th at 7:30AM EST (link)I’ve been wondering where the ball and chain has been hiding, didn’t see her in any of the coverage of 9/11.
As for HRC not very stateswoman like I’d say. But then again she only following the example set by the leader of her party.
McCain is appearing At Clinton's Global Initiative!
LibraryLady Wednesday, September 17th at 8:05AM EST (link)McCain at Bill Clinton Event
By Katharine Q. Seelye
Obama is appearing by satellite!
I guess thats what.......
madtrapper (Diary) Wednesday, September 17th at 8:58AM EST (link)…………the left thinks of world maniacs? They most likely are afraid of offending Ahmadinejad. Can’t have that!
Or is it BO’s true stance on Israel?
I smell a rat in Hilzilla, why has she gone out of the way to avoid anything that has to do with Sarah? Is she already tasting defeat or just smart enough to see her supporters on an exodus to the right?
Well, I guess Barry can kiss the Jewish voters goodbye!!!
Last year the rally was bi-partisan
LibraryLady Wednesday, September 17th at 8:59AM EST (link)National rally to end the Iranian Threat
On a sunny afternoon on Monday, September 24, 2007, more than 20,000 people gathered from all over the country at the Dag Hammarskjöld Plaza across from the United Nations in New York to protest the appearance of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at the United Nations General Assembly. Among the crowd of demonstrators were many prominent political and religious figures of all persuasions.
jeez if it wasn't obvious by now...
bk (Diary) Wednesday, September 17th at 9:38AM EST (link)“Not to mention many Jews will see the Republicans standing up for them and the Obama party not.”
Let me try another explanation
clintonformccain Wednesday, September 17th at 11:31AM EST (link)Let me try this again. I’m a small-change Hillary donor. I wrote pro-Hillary front page entries on Dem blogs throughout 2007. I’ve voting for McCain/Palin in November.
Senator Clinton is walking a fine line:
a) She cannot be perceived as costing Obama the election, so she had to go through the motions of campaigning for him, etc.
b) Having just gone through a year of sexist (and racist) attacks, often promoted by her own party, she is NOT going to attack Sarah Palin and has made it very clear that she applauds Sarah Palin’s candidacy. She will talk issues. That’s it.
c) Many of Clinton’s supporters have communicated to her that they will walk away from her if she attacks Palin.
If you think about the three points above, you can see that Clinton is doing a tap dance. You guys know the media. All they ask her about is Palin. She has to literally duck their questions over and over and over. If she shows up at a rally with Palin, that will be the headline media story of the day, “Cat Fight” or whatever. What good does that do either of them? The Israel lobby knows where Senator Clinton stands.
For those playing along at home, watch how Bill Clinton is handling the same tap dance. He’s mocking Obama by giving speeches about his terrific “experience” and years of “preparation” to lead. Last week, he said that Obama would win “handily”. That’s an obvious lie. If there’s one thing Bill Clinton can do, it’s read polling data. Step back, watch the grin on his face, and enjoy the political theater.
Inviting McCain to give a keynote speech at the Clinton Global Initiative tells you all you need to know. This announcement came two days after Bill said he would campaing for Obama as soon as he finishes up all his work with the Clinton Global Initiative!
PS: I don’t know how to say this in a subtle way. It’s hard for old habits to die, but there are significant percentages of Clinton supporters who are contemplating a vote for McCain. Every diary or comment attacking the Clintons right now could be costing McCain a vote. Learn a lesson from the pinheads at DailyKOS. Don’t make the same mistake. The goal of politics is to bring people INTO your tent, not drive them away.
I agree.....
madtrapper (Diary) Wednesday, September 17th at 2:22PM EST (link)…and even though I am far to the right, I don’t think many Clinton supporters can possibly vote for Obama.
Did they all of a sudden forget how he kicked her around like a rag doll? He smeared her worse than he is doing to McCain!!!
Could they have forgotten so quick?
How they pretty much got tossed aside at their convention?
I know I would not be forgetful!!