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Obama’s talking points were closely similar to the cartoon.

…to the comment being an intentional blowback at Palin. Notice how he scratches his forehead just as he begins the stupidest portion of his comments. It’s almost as if he’s wondering, “Do I go there?”.

“Just put up with it.”
And now.
The pattern is set.

OMG Obamas body language is soooo easy to define. You can always tell when he is about to step into something….

Like the time he flipped off the audience while mentioning Hillary.

My could this be “The One’s” Macaca moment?

But I somehow think that the MSM will not report “Pig” comments in the same way they reported monkey comments.

Nah, I think that’s an overreaction.

BUT…

It certainly shows a lack of judgment from the “words matter” guy. And this comes right after he said his ridiculous Saddleback abortion comment was flip. This great orator can’t seem to get anything right if it isn’t running on a TelePrompTer.

AND…

Let’s assume it was an innocent use of a common cliche. Can you imagine the hue and outcry from the people who find “code words” in everything if McCain were to innocently use some common cliches such as “the pot calling the kettle black” or “let’s call a spade a spade”? OMG we’d never hear the end of it.

it’s usually not a good idea to remove the safeties on the weapons before they’re released, especially in close combat.

Those things have a tendency to be indiscriminate about what they hit.

Most “folks” don’t start to pay attention to the election until after labor day.That’s been said time and time again,sooo the non-political junkies,the folks of America don’t have a clue what the old saying about the pig and lipstick means. I didn’t until a year ago when I started digging into politics.

Don’t think for one minute Obama didn’t know what he was doing ,he did. Imagine your aunt Tilly at the kitchen table drinking her afternoon tea and hear Obama say that. Clean up in the kitchen.

As offensive as it is to us imagine how offensive it was to the folks. Obama’s true self is beginning to show and he’s unravelling. This is a good thing.

What a stupid comment by Obama – regardless of intent. I’m pretty confident the Clintons wouldn’t make this mistake. In fact, they have to be sitting on the porch in Chappaqua enjoying all of this and thinking “Amateurs!”

The McCain camp doesn’t need to do anything else, except let this thing linger – don’t push it, but don’t brush it aside either. The new ad is kind of ridiculous, but its out there now. Good thing it’s only a web ad.

is not ready for the big league.
While the MSM will blow this off, there will be many women who will take offense to this.
Not good Mr Obama not good at all.

I like the ad. They don’t know what to do, which direction to take. I think this keeps them on the defensive and unglued for a few more days.

Here in NY, the Daily News and the Post both ran this as their front page stories.

A: “The Accomplishments of Barak Hussein Obama”
This lipstick and smelly fish problem is what happens when a do-nothing, done-nothing empty suit is thrust into real responsibility.

to play this up because I think its not really what Obama intended.

Hopefully, we will hit this for a day or two and then move on to something more useful.

What he meant, he says Pig and Lipstick (Palin) then Old and Fish (McCain), you don’t have to be a genius to understand what he meant. Obviously, he said it in such a way that it was on context with a broader issue so that he could deny it later. He’s an idiot.

I think that the comments were absolutely intentional; the crowd in SW VA took a moment to clue in and Barry gave them all the time that was needed for his supporters to process the hit and ovate. In addition to the ‘lipstick’ remark, can it really be a coincidence that he followed with the ‘old fish’ reference? – Mccain just happens to be a 72-year old sailer. Looks to me like he was able to be sexist, ageist, and anti-Navy in one fell swoop….

Yeah, long winded debates about economic numbers may influence a few intelligent voters. But if you have the headlines, you have to ride that horse.

Biden made a blunder too, but this one is resonating. Its all about getting peoples attention and this has got peoples attention.

And dont think for one moment, this wasnt about Palin. Everything little detail is planned. I liked the way he looked nervous before saying it and the way the crowd blew up is a dead give away.

Yeah, long winded debates about economic numbers may influence a few intelligent voters. But if you have the headlines, you have to ride that horse.

Biden made a blunder too, but this one is resonating. Its all about getting peoples attention and this has got peoples attention.

And dont think for one moment, this wasnt about Palin. Everything little detail is planned. I liked the way he looked nervous before saying it and the way the crowd blew up is a dead give away.

Yeah, long winded debates about economic numbers may influence a few intelligent voters. But if you have the headlines, you have to ride that horse.

Biden made a blunder too, but this one is resonating. Its all about getting peoples attention and this has got peoples attention.

And dont think for one moment, this wasnt about Palin. Everything little detail is planned. I liked the way he looked nervous before saying it and the way the crowd blew up is a dead give away.

Yeah, long winded debates about economic numbers may influence a few intelligent voters. But if you have the headlines, you have to ride that horse.

Biden made a blunder too, but this one is resonating. Its all about getting peoples attention and this has got peoples attention.

And dont think for one moment, this wasnt about Palin. Everything little detail is planned. I liked the way he looked nervous before saying it and the way the crowd blew up is a dead give away.

Are pretty tired of this men’s locker room barbs. They want some quality inuendo that’s not female based. Here is one for the ladies to use at all Palin/McCain rallies:

Y’all dems can put a gelding in a horse race but don’t expect any stud fees, win, place or show.

I’m perfectly willing to accept that it wasn’t intentional – he was just using an idiom that unfortunately had become very closely identified with Sarah Palin.

But then … when you look at the juxtapositioning of the “lipstick” (Palin) and “old” (McCain) pair of sentences, it really doesn’t look good.

And besides, I find it interesting that the very same set of people that beat George Allen about the head until he fell with a throw-away comment, and regularly raise all sorts of heck when someone uses the word “niggardly” and has taken to finding racism in the way someone combs his hair … are coming out of the woodwork screaming that we should all get a grip.

You can imagine the shrieking that would have erupted if either Palin or McCain were ever to have been heard saying “pot calling the kettle black” or “call a spade a spade.”

I just heard on the radio something about Biden asking a man to stand up and be recognized at a rally, however the man is disabled and in a wheelchair. Did anyone else hear about it?

Okay…do we make this a bid deal or do we not?

I’ve been wobbling back and forth about this since last night, but considering him CLEARLY flipping off Hillary AND essentially insulted BOTH McCain and Palin with his lipstick-on-a-pig/dead fish comment, AND considering the fact that his cohort in crime, Biden, was insulting Palin with a lipstick comment on the same day, I say pull the gloves off and pin him against the wall with so many political punches that he never recovers! This ad is a good start.

Moe, I’m not sure why those two are mutually exclusive. That the guy is a chowderhead no one can seriously dispute. Every time he goes off TelePrompTer (aside: why the heck do we capitalize those letters?) affirms that. Stuff like this, which I agree was calculated to lampoon Palin’s very-cool “lipstick” line without plainly stating it, shows he’s a sexist chowderhead. And when it comes directly from Tom Toles — whose musings undoubtedly get much approving notice in the Obama camp — he’s also a plagiarizer. But, again, we already knew he was a plagiarizer, with the first and most memorable example being the “just words” speech he ripped from Deval Patrick, Governor of Massachusetts.

So, Obama is not simply an empty suit, he’s a plagiarizing sexist chowderhead empty suit.

But Obama got it from McCain…

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/mccainrollsouthealthplan_a.html

Where’s the story on Bridgegate?

Obama is a fresh fish… You figure out which one stinks..

This was either a freudian slip, a really bad choice of words, or an intentioonal attack. No matter what, it is obvious that the audience took it to mean that he was calling Sarah a pig as evidenced by their laughter. He has a little ‘plausable deniability’, but not much. The big question is why this ‘articulate’ Ivy League graduate would use the lipstick on a pig comment with all the other terms and words he could have chosen. While I write this, he is on TV trying to clean the crap off his shoes! I think he is in melt down. This guy is an educated fool and it is on display for all to see.

It was worth firing a warning shot like they did–because it was definitely scripted and seemed malicious to the crowd–but he left himself enough wiggle room on this one to get out.

They really need to just let this one go now.

While it’s a pretty good ad, there are two things I feel I have to point out.

1) Giving Hillary the finger isn’t sexism.
2) McCain used the lipstick on a pig phrase too.

I checked Wonkette, Huffington and a few blogs by liberal women…nothing yet. I havent checked any Hillary/PUMA sites. That’s what will give this remark legs.

I don’t think it that big of a deal. And I never want Sarah to play hte victim card. But if this just pisses off the PUMAs a little more, than great.

so the lib women will have to pick it up’it’s a shot in the arm for their cause.

I once thought Obama was merely so green and inexperienced, vs. “dumb” or “chowderhead,” that he bungled because he was new to the game. That may account for much of it, but my girlfriend suggested something that makes tremendous sense to me. Here’s a man raised by his mother and grandmother, who married a wife who is castrating. He has been dominated by women so much that he has a problem with them and those who aren’t in his immediate circle receive that suppressed anger. I know it is pop psychology but I agree it makes tremendous sense.

I can’t wait to see how he tries to lie out of this one.

remarks in Virginia today. He was back in serious, concerned, thoughtful Prof. Obama mode. He explained what he said and the crowd laughed in a subdued, is-it-okay-to-laugh? way, very different from the raucous, oh-no-he-didn’t crowd last night.

Turns out this whole thing is the media’s fault. This whole conversation isn’t helping Michelle’s kids!

Just asking. Chowderhead is usually a pejoritive used for yankees usually of the New England variety.

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I think that one of the biggest obstacles Obama faces is the very nature of many of his supporters. I believe the people that laughed enthusiastically at his pig/lipstick remarks are a fair representation of his supporters. It occurs to me that when such things are shown to the general population, fair minded and good-hearted folks will not want to be identified with a group like Obama’s supporters. Most people want to consider themselves as being nice, and Obama’s supporters just don’t come off as being very nice most of the time, and I often see down right meanness in them.

which I’m not sure we were, Obama’s campaign is just going to have to understand that given that his followers have attacked her daughter, her son, her motherhood, and her religion, calling her a pig with a not-so-disguised jab didn’t seem out of the ordinary for them.

Some of you may have — I’m assuming you guys have heard this, watching the news. I’m talking about John McCain’s economic politics, I say, “This is more of the same, you can put lipstick on a pig but it’s still a pig.”

And suddenly they say, “Oh, you must be talking about the governor of Alaska.”

[Laughter from audience]

See it would be funny, it would be funny except — of course the news media all decided that that was the lead story yesterday. They’d much rather have the story — this is the McCain campaign — would much rather have the story about phony and foolish diversions than about the future.

This happens every election cycle. Every four years. This is what we do. We’ve got an energy crisis. We have an education system that is not working for too many of our children and making us less competitive. We have an economy that is creating hardship for families all across America. We’ve got two wars going on, veterans coming home not being cared for — and this is what they want to talk about! this is what they want to spend two of the last 55 days talking about.

You know who ends up losing at the end of the day? It’s not the Democratic candidate, It’s not the republican candidate. It’s you, the American people. because then we go another year or another four years or another eight years without addressing the issues that matter to you. Enough.

I don’t care what they say about me, but I love this country too much to let them take over another election with lies and phony outrage and swift-boat politics. Enough is enough.

And how about McCain’s incredibly sleazy “Sex-Ed” ad? It make the Willie Horton people look like amateurs. Beyond disgusting.

it sure as heck will be today.

I give you the beginning of the dem implosion-

Introducing Joe Biden as “one of the foremost experts in foreign affairs in the country” in St. Louis just now, my colleague Victoria McGrane reports, Rep. Russ Carnahan also took a swipe at Palin.

“For all his tough talk [McCain] buckled to the right wing of his party in his choice. Picked someone with zero experience in national government, zero experience in foreign affairs. There’s no way you can dress up that record, even with a lot of lipstick,” he said.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/CarnahanTheresnowayyoucandressupthatrecordevenwithalotof_lipstick.html?showall

And here I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I think that this is going to gain some traction psychologically. Although the McCain camp tried, up until now, no one could connect the dots of sexism directly at Obama or democrats in office. It was all connected to the media, bloggers, etc…
But now you have a gaffe from Barack viral on the internet, a rapid response ad in retaliation, and an idiot democrat from Missouri dumping gasoline on the fire.

I’d say the countdown has begun.
10, 9, 8, 7, 6…….

Could you imagine the responce from the left had the shoe been on the other foot? What if Obama had chosen Hillary, or maybe a really unattractive woman (it would have been worse if Sarah Palin were unattractive, if you think about it), and McCain had used the pig/lipstick phrases? I don’t think McCain would have ever heard the end of it. I do believe McCain should let this one blow over now, it has gotten enough play.

First of all, I love this suggestion from Ace reader MamaAJ:

Gov. Palin tomorrow:

(Steps up to the microphone.)

(Starts to speak, then stops and reaches down and picks up something small.)

(She is now applying lipstick in front of this huge crowd that is laughing and cheering.)

(After a few minutes, the cheering dies down and she begins to speak.)

“Oink.”

(The crowd roars anew…)

Here’s my addition to that.

Afterwards she should say that she’s absolutely certain that Obama didn’t mean to call her a pig … and then join him in condemning the media.

It’s a win-win-win. She gets to be magnanimous and charitable toward an opponent (swing voters would love that), show her concern with the issues (swing voters again) and pound on the media at the same time (and that’ll be for us ‘wingers).

Does anyone know the origin of the phrase, how it got into the political lexicon?

I don’t know, but I have a good ear for quips that stick and I know that the first time I recall that I heard the phrase used was from a DC based AFSCME representative back in 2003.

The State of Alaska was in bargaining with AFSCME, which represented our largest group of employees. They had heavily backed the Democrat and stalled bargaining until after the election. Well, that didn’t work out since we Republicans won and instead of facing a nice friendly Democrat, they were sitting across the table from their worst nightmare – me.

They knew they were in no position to fight and it would make us happy for them to go out and pound their chests and threaten to strike or even go on strike. So, the AFSCME Rep had to suck it in and take our deal but he needed to tell his members that he’d gotten them something.

He asked me to meet privately and said he knew he had to take the pig but couldn’t I help him put some lipstick on it or somehow dress up the pig for him. I noted then that it was a very apt way to describe what you do in bargaining when one side has to just take what’s on the table; you try to give them something to maintain their dignity so they’ll just go away and leave you alone until the next contract cycle.

BTW, for my whole time in charge I kept a motorized Flying Pig hanging over the table in my conference room and my response to lots of demands or questions was to just stand up and switch on the pig.

Fox edited the clip pretty closely, and apparently the YouTube link has been taken down so I haven’t seen the crowd reaction. Based on what I saw on Fox, I was going to say Obama was probably using the DC phrase in its typical context. I was going to follow that with that I still think it was a smart move by McCain to run the ad the way they did because it establishes that McCain and Palin now also have a non-rebuttable line of attack just like Obama is accustomed to pulling, and that he’d better keep the racists cracks out of his talks of McCain would using the whithering fire of sexism against Obama.

Based on what I’m reading here I think I’m going to revise that a bit. I missed the connection of Navy-sailor-fish, and I’m going to trust the posts about the audience reaction. Which means that it wasn’t an unfortunate gaffe on the part of Obama, it was intentional, with a plan to have plausible deniability. And the only thing that fails more than being caught in a lie, is being caught in a lie with you plausible deniability hanging in the wind for all to see it isn’t. That won’t play well with soccer moms, hockey moms, Walmart moms, rednecks, or blue collar beer drinkers. The feminists of course are going to say Palin deserves it because she isn’t one of them and doesn’t deserve to be a woman, which will infuriate the same group all over. What’s more, it is the sort of image that will stick in the average voter’s mind. Charts and tables about deficits, GDP, etc may be more important to us wonk wannabes, but they tend to put Joe or Josephine Average to sleep. Gratuitously insulting a woman and then not owning up to and apologizing won’t be forgotten.

From a campaign strategy standpoint, McCain should keep throwing these kinds of jabs occasionally. When one of them hits Obama, he is knocked completely off balance and off message. McCain needs to keep up the regular policy based attacks as well, but he has a significant advantage there: McCain can do both, Obama clearly can’t. McCain also has chosen a VP who can carry the attack against Obama, while Obama has chosen a VP who is more likely to immolate himself than direct fire at McCain.

and he knew they knew.