Look out your window as you drive down the street. Things seem the same as always. People continue to go about their daily tasks: get the kids to school, shop for groceries, run errands. On the surface normality continues on.
Beneath that veneer of calm there is a rage building in the American population. Rage because the people who were supposed to know how to run the economy have turned out to be morons, or criminals, or both. Rage because deep down everyone knows that we’ve been lied to and robbed blind. Rage because the America we thought we knew died a long, long time ago. Rage because we want to do something about it, but don’t know how.
The recent discovery of “Principles” by the Republican party makes me want to scream! Where were these “Principles” when Bush was in office, when they would have actually mattered?
America is bracing for impact. The sham economic system based on paper money and endless credit is coming to an end. Please be prepared.
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I think your right
nricciar Tuesday, February 10th at 2:32PM EST (link)You hit the nail on the head in your diary. Democrats are not spending nearly a trillion dollars for “us”, but neither are the Republicans standing up for “us” by voting no. They are both doing what they think will keep them in power, and the big problem is this has been going on for a long time.
If there has ever been a time for real solutions this is it, but unfortunately all we have are children posturing for 2010 and 2012.
I think our leaders in DC should take JFK’s quote to heart….
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”
I think you are right I feel it also there is RAGE....
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Tuesday, February 10th at 5:37PM EST (link)The people I talk too are angry and feel helpless BECAUSE they are NOT being listened to. I don’t know where that is going but it cannot be good!
Unified Patriots – How-To:
Activists Taking Action
from sept 24, a hard time vs hard times - LINK
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Tuesday, February 10th at 7:04PM EST (link)http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2008/09/24/bad-dem-cholesterol-hardened-arteries-a-hard/
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
Rage and grief have been my principle emotions all day.
janis (Diary) Tuesday, February 10th at 5:48PM EST (link)The country I grew up in is being dismantled in whole chunks daily. What’s being done is nothing less than tyranny in the making. I’m all for the day when these a**hats are pulled out of their very own spider holes and it can’t come too soon. You can tell that these clowns don’t know history, or else they would know that tyrants don’t die peaceful deaths and tyrannized countries don’t stay that way forever.
Agree----the country that was the beacon
loewenbrau (Diary) Tuesday, February 10th at 5:55PM EST (link)for all those that loved liberty has been taken over by the followers of Saul Alinsky. Our children were propagandized in school, our politicians are corrupt, our party became spineless. Tradition, religion and history are dirty words and homosexuality, porn and appeasment are the norm. There is no War on Terror but there is Al gore’s global warming. Like in 1984 — new speak has taken over.
Do not be paranoid, but be prepared.
Kenny Solomon (Diary) Tuesday, February 10th at 6:48PM EST (link)Living in South Flori-duh have a distinct advantage… Hurricane season has a real and obvious potential to alter one’s life a tad, so you’re always prepared, even in the off-season.
I’ve been through a few named storms and lemme tell ya, they ain’t a walk in the park.
Here, we tend to have at least a week’s worth of water, food, batteries, etc., along with reliable portable electronics, no less than a half-tank in the car, a “go bag” (3-days of absolute essentials to travel), etc. as a ‘just in case’ backup.
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If I may be so bold as to make an overall suggestion – again, this is not paranoia, but preparedness 101 – and no, I am not a survivalist……and by the way, I am NOT talking about hoarding.
With the way things are looking, I’d get a bit of a stock up on things you normally use on a daily/weekly basis. Staple items that have long shelf-lives.
There is no reason to believe anything insane like martial law is coming, but if and when the merde does indeed encounter the ventilateur, what will you do if you can’t take a simple trip to the grocery store because it’s too dangerous to go outside ?
Touchy subject here that does spark of paranoia….. This tip from a legal eagle I’ve taken to heart lately……. pay cash for everything you possibly can and do not use store loyalty/customer cards, etc., especially if you’re buying ammunition.
This message NOT brought to you by any tin-foil-hat-wearing, conspiracy freak. I’m just a normal lunatic with the “hope” that the “change” coming doesn’t kill us all.
The single last thing I want to see is Americans rising up in revolt against other Americans……… but what if it happens and comes to your doorstep ?
Cheers !
Sometimes they really are out to get you
JustLeaveMeAlone (Diary) Thursday, February 12th at 1:03AM EST (link)And Kenny, your suggestions make an tremendous amount of sense.
My lifetime has been one of enormous changes. But in the past few months, the velocity has picked up like a tornado, and signs are not encouraging for a status quo future.
So ….. I can look long and regretfully at what might have been and what I thought the next part of my life would be like. Or I can plan for the probable and the possible future.
Some suggestions to consider, along with those Kenny listed:
* Keep enough cash ~safely~ in your home for a few months’ survival. Not in a bank; in a safe, or a fireproof box well hidden.
* If you have a coin collection, especially with old silver coins, secure it.
* If you can turn a room in your home into a safe room, do so. Think hurricanes, tornados, political unrest, personal safety from home invasions.
* Never allow your supply of prescription drugs to go below two weeks’ supply. If you can have a few months’ worth, do so. (And find a way to buy them outside of the USA. Yeah, I know, I know … but a person’s gotta live.)
* Put your important and irreplaceable personal papers together in a fireproof safe or box where they can be grabbed quickly. Birth certificate, deeds, will, passport, social security card, insurance policies, etc. Get one of those “what my family needs to know” booklets and fill it out. If you can, scan these onto a jump drive or flash drive, and keep that in the safe place as well (I also store irreplaceable personal photos on mine).
* Don’t forget your pets. Vaccination certs, vet records, enough food to last them a few weeks, a way to transport them quickly if need be.
* Have a disaster plan for your family. And don’t forget family that is far away.
With all my family 1,200 miles away from me, we have a cell phone contact disaster plan. We are also setting up redundancies — email and snail mail — in case. When technology fails, there needs to be some kind of old-fashioned communication — that’s a lesson from Katrina, Rita, and Ike.
There was a time I would have viewed all of my above suggestions as just as wacky as a tin-foil hat. But the times, they are a changin’.
“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson
Obama was oversold
Common_Cents (Diary) Tuesday, February 10th at 7:14PM EST (link)I can hardly watch TV or read any news because my blood gets boiling. I’ve gotta tune out for my own mental health
Those poor weights at the gym are getting overtime these days.
Obama will suffer tremendous backlash from being oversold to the public as a rock star messiah. I heard clips of his town meetings where people are asking him for cars and jobs and he just mumbles.
Before it’s over and done he’ll be worse than Jimmy Carter especially because of the extremely high expectations going in. Hopefully not as much damage will be done but it doesn’t look good with a rabid Dem congress.
Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from,
behind, the Back Nine.Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.
DONT TUNE OUT !!!!!!!!!! That's what they want !!!!!
Kenny Solomon (Diary) Tuesday, February 10th at 7:23PM EST (link)God help me for this, but PAY ATTENTION to what’s going on around you, especially try to find the hidden stuff that gets sneaked in on the overnights…… like executive orders
If you tune out, our country is minus the one person that makes a difference.
When I get that way , what I do to relax is hit the shooting range.
But I force myself to keep going – even though to me The One’s voice is like nails on a blackboard and his image is that of Gozer The Destructor incarnate.
But what’s coming across now as worse are all the sycophants and others he’s surrounded himself with who are downright dangerous to individual freedom and liberty and our very existence as a sovereign nation.
Rage: Senatorial Style......
Kenny Solomon (Diary) Tuesday, February 10th at 7:54PM EST (link)Here it comes……… Gonna start small, the look out.
Howard Dean screaming will hold no candle to this circus.
Senator Pat Leahy seeks Bush-era Truth Commission
Better than even odds Leahy seeks the death penalty for Bush, Cheney and Rove.
Yep, THAT'll heal the "deep divides"
Next93 (Diary) Thursday, February 12th at 6:22PM EST (link)Check out the link, Leahy says that it’s the only way to “heal the deep divides”. I know *I’ll* feel a whole lot better if they haul up a former president for a show trial.
Wel, what goes around comes around, and I wonder how long it will be before the Obamasiah starts waking in a cold sweat from the image of riding the trundle cart on its way to the gullotine.
Obama was The One in 2008.
He’ll be a BIGGER one in 2012.
8 Trillion Dollars Already Gone
kowalski (Diary) Wednesday, February 11th at 12:19PM EST (link)We’re about to have another taxpayer supported “stimulus package” but it is still a fraction of the guarantees that have been handed out by the Fed and the FDIC to banks — without any indication to the American public of where that money has gone or is going. It’s a state secret.
Remember, the above-board stimulus packages are dwarfed by the amount of money the Fed and FDIC have guaranteed without even telling the American people where it’s going:
My guess is that most of that money is going right out the backdoor of the economy to countries like China and Saudi Arabia, as a payoff to keep them financing our debt over the next few years. My sincere guess is that a number of creditors that we absolutely need to finance the “above board” debt gave us a very stark ultimatum: “Pay us now, in cash, or you economy fails tomorrow.”
And the FED and FDIC are doing so.
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It's casino culture
kowalski (Diary) Wednesday, February 11th at 12:58PM EST (link)I firmly believe that the growth and widespread acceptance of casino gambling in the U.S. was one of the things that led to the massive overleveraging of our economy. There used to be such a thing as taking a reasonable risk, on the order of 3:1 or 4:1. In the past twenty years, Americans as a group got used to taking 30:1 risks as though it was nothing to worry about. We’re paying the piper now. The banks — all of them — participated in this massive shift away from common sense: they encouraged people to take second mortgages on their homes in order to finance luxury items. With the hand-in-glove help of the federal government, they also encouraged banks to lend money to illegal aliens and millions of people who could never pay back their mortgages unless housing values kept going up.
Part of the reason they did that was because they were making enormous sums of money extending those loans. Bonuses, perks and closing commissions. It was an absolute cavalcade of irresponsibility. Everyone was screwing everyone else.
Anyone knows that it’s immoral to bet your future on a 30:1 gamble. Except Americans. Except the people on Wall Street and in our banking and credit institutions. They’re getting bailed out and what is going to happen is that they’re going to snap up the devalued properties. Then the recovery will begin.
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Then the recovery will begin
izoneguy (Diary) Wednesday, February 11th at 1:13PM EST (link)No the recovery will begin when Obama and his machine are destroyed. We need an Obamanator.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
The recovery can begin...
MNConservative (Diary) Wednesday, February 11th at 1:41PM EST (link)once we have a sane monetary policy. Governments like paper money because they can take the people’s wealth without taxation, by expanding the monetary base (ie, printing money). Gold or Silver protect the people’s wealth and allow for slow steady growth that inhibits the boom/bust cycle of paper money.
End the Fed.
End Fractional Reserve Banking!
Then the economy can begin to recover in a sane, sustainable way.
Paper money has value because we say it does
fmaidment (Diary) Wednesday, February 11th at 9:52PM EST (link)It’s all about faith: faith in the Fed, whether that “Fed” be the Federal Reserve or the Federal Government.
Gold and silver also have value… But again, only because we say that they do. Were it not for their electrically conductive properties, they would simply be shiny rocks that could be forged or pressed into pleasing shapes.
Paper or gold-standard matters little. What matters is our faith in the people backing the currency.
Which is not to say that moving back to the gold standard or to silver notes might not be a bad idea. It might do a lot to curb inflation that current monetary policy simply cannot do.
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You are partly right, but it's a little more than that.
kyle8 (Diary) Wednesday, February 11th at 10:58PM EST (link)Items with small intrinsic value can for a while be ascribed monetary value by the actions of a group, The classic case is Tulip bulbs in seventeenth century Holland.
But it wont last. Paper money can last because it is a contract. If the issuing government is true to its obligations then the paper currency has real value due to full faith and credit.
Precious metals have value not only because of their intrinsic value to industry, but also due to their rarity and universal appeal.
No currency is in trouble until the leaders of the nation decide that they can print their way out of debt. Then it begins to inflate.
We will have inflation in the future, not because we cannot pay our huge new debts, but because there will be no political will to do what is necessary. Like selling off our huge reserves of land, gold, and oil leases.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
Paper Money is a SHAM
MNConservative (Diary) Wednesday, February 11th at 11:13PM EST (link)The only reason paper money (ie, a fiat currency) is instituted is so that the government can expand the monetary base at will. Otherwise they would use a precious metal. Metal is identifiable, easily divisible, and fungible.
Paper money is a sham. The full faith and credit is, and always has been, a lie. What does that mean, exactly, “full faith and credit”? That means you can turn in your dollar for… what?
Every dollar that we have in our economy is loaned into existence by the Federal Reserve bank, or by local banks through the fractional reserve banking system. These loans bear interest. WHERE DO THE DOLLARS COME FROM TO PAY THE INTEREST ON THESE LOANS???
IT IS A SCAM because more money has to be loaned into existence in order to pay the interest. It’s a TRAP, brought to you courtesy of the Federal Reserve Bank.
blah blah blah
kyle8 (Diary) Wednesday, February 11th at 11:21PM EST (link)i don’t want to be too hard on you but that is the sort of ranting You get from the tin foil hat crowd.
Paper money has been used successfully for about a thousand years. It only RARELY becomes a problem when nations deliberately inflate their currency.
Precious metals on the other hand are not as great as you make them out to be. the value of gold, for instance has risen and fallen by well over 50% in the last 20 years. Not exactly the model of stability.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
So then answer my question.
MNConservative (Diary) Wednesday, February 11th at 11:29PM EST (link)If paper money is that successful.
Do you know the average life expectency of a paper currency?
The value of gold compared to what? Dollars? Could it be the dollars fluctuating? LOL
I’m not afraid of the tin-foil moniker. Just answer my question. Where do the dollars come from to pay the interest on the loans?
it is the value of gold on the open market that flucuates.
kyle8 (Diary) Wednesday, February 11th at 11:44PM EST (link)the lifespan of paper money can be very stable indeed. the pound sterling has never had an era of hyperinflation and has been strong vs other currencies since the creation of the Bank of England in the early eighteenth century.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
An example of money failure - Argentina - I agree with MNConservative
Elizabeth Christian (Diary) Wednesday, February 11th at 11:55PM EST (link)I found out about how “printing money” can kill an economy. My grandfather followed the path of our (my grandfather and I) hero Ronald Reagan – he had Alzheimers and during the time when his memory was not so good he bought a lot of coins and currency from off of the tv and in the mail – most of it was not worth anything but I learned a lesson from one piece of currency he had obtained. My grandfather had a 1,000,000 Argentina (I think it was in Peso’s) anyways, I figured surely out of all of the collection he had that this one might be worth something so I started to research it and found out a valuable lesson of how printing money can take a nation to it’s knees. (I was helping my aunt try and get money for my grandmother – not for me) ; )
Here is some articles of what happened to Argentina and could be in our future:
http://www.rcwhalen.com/_articles/barrons_argentinas_failure_could_be_contagious.asp
(does any of this sound familiar – foreign debt – IOU’s – California?)
(one other side note – wasn’t Geithner at IMF during 2001/2002? Was he involved in the inaction that helped to make this worse?)
From the article above (AMEN to the one who made the comment):
Brian Wesbury of Griffin, Kubik Stephens & Thompson: “Unfortunately, the IMF forced Argentina to raise taxes in recent years, creating even more problems for the economy. Tax cuts are the answer, not devaluation.” Dominated by socialist Peronistas, the Saa government is unlikely to consider tax cuts to help the economy.
(again, sound familiar)
Again – sound familiar – below is from the article:
But in 1989, after 60 years of military misrule and socialist muddle, Argentina’s inflation reached more than 10,000%, a political watershed that led to the decision to peg the peso to the dollar. The failure of this courageous gamble and the resurgence of anti-foreign Peronismo, the logical reaction to the IMF’s austerity prescriptions, is a defeat for supporters of free-market democracy in Argentina and may presage the start of a cycle of political instability in Latin America.
By the way – we kept the 1,000,000 peso/dollar whatever it was as a reminder to this historical proof that socialism does NOT work – perhaps I can borrow that 1,000,000 from my aunt and put a picture up on my blog as a reminder!!! Also, we could not even sell it on eBay for over (1) U.S. dollar (I looked at the ones on there that had sold – some did not sell and others were mostly $1 and I think maybe one went for $5)!!!
You are right on target MNConservative – great diary entry.
Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
~Benjamin Franklin
as I said before, those cases are rare.
kyle8 (Diary) Thursday, February 12th at 12:11AM EST (link)If the leaders of a nation are stupid and corrupt they can find a way to ruin the country, money or not.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
Not rare at all
MNConservative (Diary) Thursday, February 12th at 12:33AM EST (link)http://dollardaze.org/blog/?post_id=00405
Only a few currencies have lasted for any serious length of time, and even those have lost over 90% of their value since conception.
The American Indians
CarlSchurz (Diary) Thursday, February 12th at 12:41AM EST (link)Apart from Central America, did not value Gold. It served no purpose to them. They didn’t have the fever for the yellow rock.
Gold is as fiat as paper.
I suppose if cow patties were more valuable than Gold people would be hoarding it.
War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse. A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.
Gold is NOT as fiat as paper
MNConservative (Diary) Thursday, February 12th at 12:52AM EST (link)Simply because governments cannot create it by fiat. It has to be dug out of the ground at great expense. In fact, market forces dictate that the cost of digging it out of the ground will be roughly it’s value!
I don’t care whether it’s gold or silver or something else, but our money MUST be something governments can’t just create at the drop of a hat.
When a government expands the monetary base by printing (electronic or physical), the new dollars rob value from the ones already in circulation. Its the most evil tax, because not one person in a hundred can figure out what’s going on. They think the shopkeeper is gouging them when prices start rising, but it’s really the government has robbed the purchasing power of our money. With gold or silver money, this is impossible. Government must live within its means.
history prove that not to be true
kyle8 (Diary) Thursday, February 12th at 12:57AM EST (link)there were massive hyperinflations in the past even with gold and silver coins as the only currency.
Read up on Prussia under Frederick the Great.
Inflation is caused by too much money in circulation and money can be a PROMISE to pay, so if a government has massive debt, those debt instruments become defacto currency because they can be exchanged for gold.
the only way to insure that there is no inflation is to make sure that a government can neither print NOR borrow. And that is simply pie in the sky, aint gonna happen.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
The same applies to a gold-backed standard
CarlSchurz (Diary) Thursday, February 12th at 1:06AM EST (link)They are all mediums of exchange representing value that are chasing resources. And you can mess with gold backed currency just as easily as you can fiat currency.
The issue is not the thing that backs currency or money, but monetary policy. How much accepted medium of exchange representing value is in circulation?
If anything, fiat currency is backed by something far more substantial than gold. it is the entire strength of a nation. Where as gold is just the 79th Element on a paper Table of the Elements.
If Coprolite was to become valuable should we switch to a Coprolite backed currency?
War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse. A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.
Backed by the entire strength of a nation?
MNConservative (Diary) Thursday, February 12th at 1:16AM EST (link)What does that mean, exactly?
Gold and silver are backed by the fact that they’re RARE. The only thing the US Dollar has going for it is that it’s SUPPOSED to be rare. Ha!
If tomorrow chemists found a cheap easy way to make gold out of lead, gold would become a very bad choice for money.
Coprolite would make a crappy currency because it’s not very fungible. Not all coprolite is created equal.
How to explain it
CarlSchurz (Diary) Thursday, February 12th at 1:43AM EST (link)You got Bank A. It has 10,000 tons of Gold in its vaults. But it has no security guards to protect the Gold in the vault.
On the other side of the city, you got Bank B that says its Currency is backed up by nothing more than pieces of paper, it has no precious gems or metals in its vaults nor stashes of Crude Oil laying around. But a sign points to the several thousand men armed with guns.
Which bank gets more business? I garuantee you it will be Bank B. It can protect itself and back its currency.
I know that is a crude explaination.
A nation can be rich in gold or some other matrial such as Diamonds or OIil but powerless in all other respects. Look at Kuwait.
But another nation can be poor in material but can be powerful. Japan was and still is an example. Why is this so?
Because Fiat Currency is representative of the entire strength of a nation. Its economic output, its potential, the ingenuity of its economy, its diplomacy. And its military force.
War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse. A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.
There will soon be only a few things valuable.......
Kenny Solomon (Diary) Thursday, February 12th at 12:56AM EST (link)and I’m gonna come across as nuts here……….
The combination of brass and lead with the equipment and proper training to use the merged items.
Stored food and maybe even bottled water.
Means of open communication.
Gear up folks, things may get REALLY bumpy without much notice, because our friends in power do their deeds overnight and on the weekends, so whatever media will report truth is probably sandbagged.
What will YOU do if you can’t leave your home for the grocery store because it’s either too dangerous to go outside or the store is no longer there for whatever reason, like it’s ‘out of business’, or ‘it’s literally in flames’.
So it sounds absolutely insane, doesn’t it?
Yep, that it does.
But so does the idea that the people of The USA would willingly elect a Fascist-Marxist Dictator-In-Training Pants to the highest office in the land.
Nope, doesn't sound insane to me
MNConservative (Diary) Thursday, February 12th at 1:02AM EST (link)In fact, that’s exactly what I meant when I asked people to be prepared.
Sadly, it does not sound insane to me either (thanks sheeple for electing Obama)
Elizabeth Christian (Diary) Thursday, February 12th at 1:39AM EST (link)n/t
Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
~Benjamin Franklin
How are you defining that?
kyle8 (Diary) Thursday, February 12th at 12:43AM EST (link)inflation can occur even with a gold standard and with gold currency.
I don’t really want to argue with you, I think you believe the way you do from some not very studious books and articles that I have also read lambasting paper money.
But they are not the truth. I only ask that you be more open minded. Paper money has some problems but it is not as bad as the gold bugs say it is, and specie standards are highly problematic.
The second worst depression we ever had was in the 1870′s and it was with gold money. And the great depression started under gold backed security. It is not a panacea.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
Inflation
MNConservative (Diary) Thursday, February 12th at 1:00AM EST (link)Lets not call it arguing! Lets call it a reasonable discussion.
Yes inflation can occur with a gold standard. When the Spanish started importing gold from the Americas, there was a good deal of inflation in Spain. Inflation is simply an expansion of the money supply vs. the supply of goods and services.
Of course the gold standard isn’t perfect. I personally prefer no standard; no “legal tender” laws. Let the people decide what they want in trade. I personally prefer silver (mostly ’cause I can afford it better than I can afford gold).
The problem we have is two-fold: fiat currency and fractional reserve banking. Even if you have a gold standard, fractional reserve banking can cause the same problems…
The 1800s saw many wildcat banks who would issue currecy ostensibly backed by gold, but the gold simply wasn’t there in sufficient quantities to redeem all the paper they printed. Works great ’til everyone wants their gold.
People are worried, the rage is building, but when it will become a problem will be when...
Elizabeth Christian (Diary) Wednesday, February 11th at 11:13PM EST (link)1) The first time an American goes to the Doctor and is told – Sir/Mam this is what you need but I have to wait and see what the federal overseer says about this treatment for you.
(Which as a nurse let me tell you with Medicare some of this is already going on. I get very mad when I see a patient that needs oxygen and I ask them has your Doctor talked to you about oxygen and I am told “if your oxygen level does not stay below a certain number then you cannot get oxygen at home” – I am not trying to bore you with medical stuff but let me explain this a little deeper and see if you are mad with me (just wait until those who are not so nice like our elderly – wait until younger people experience this – the Rage will boil over). Anyways, sometimes people have hearts that don’t work well from heart attacks, stress on the heart, etc… and when you do something like walk/activity it puts more stress on the heart – if you wear oxygen it decreases the work/stress on the heart (helping to make the patient comfortable and safer) – that does not mean their oxygen level will be very low – it is more about the heart. So, our elderly are now told NO by the feds. to their oxygen (this is only one example).
2) the first time when after Obama’s idiot porkulus plan has caused the economy to crash completely and people get hungry and better yet they see their children/grandchildren/elderly family members hungry and suffering – this is going to cause the Rage to boil over.
There are many other examples but you get the picture – when people are hurt in their own back yards – they are going to let that silent Rage out and it will be ugly. I don’t wish this, but I am with you guys I am preparing for this.
Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
~Benjamin Franklin
you might be overestimating what the average Sheeple is willing to tolerate
kyle8 (Diary) Wednesday, February 11th at 11:17PM EST (link)In Europe they allow the government to make all their medical decision for them and there is scarcely a peep.
We might not be quite as mind numbed as Euro’s yet, but I would not count on it.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
On the other hand...
MNConservative (Diary) Wednesday, February 11th at 11:22PM EST (link)Rioting Icelanders brought down their government, and they weren’t even hungry yet.
yeah, but let's hope things don't get so bad here
kyle8 (Diary) Wednesday, February 11th at 11:28PM EST (link)I dated an Icelandic girl in college, they are an ornery and individualistic lot, they sort of remind me of Americans, or maybe Aussies.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
Hunger more than anything else
MNConservative (Diary) Wednesday, February 11th at 11:31PM EST (link)would be the trigger here, in my opinion. There’s only about a weeks worth of food when you combine currenty pantry inventory plus a run to the grocery store in the average American’s home. Time to stock up!!
I don't think so
CarlSchurz (Diary) Wednesday, February 11th at 11:31PM EST (link)Remember, Socialist Europe emerged from a Europe that was devastated by World War II and then had the specter of Russian armored divisions surging through the Folda Gap behind a prepatory bombardment of battlefield nuclear weapons haunting it. And you had before all this chemical warfare and trench warfare in Europe just a few decades before where an entire Generation was nearly lost.
Early socialist Europe wasn’t no where near as gone as it is now. It took nearly a half century for Europe to get to the point it is now.
The New Deal was more akin to the Germany that Bismark put together, not all that socialist and definetly not as decadent as Neosocialism is.
They are going to try to do to America in a few years what took Europe 50 years to do to itself.
Them trying to marginalize the Conservative movement would be akin to the British rounding up all the movers and shakers of the Revolution and shipping them off to Australia.
War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse. A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.
I hope your right but if you read my diary you will see
kyle8 (Diary) Wednesday, February 11th at 11:46PM EST (link)that I have plenty of reasons not to be optimistic.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
By the way - Obama's soldiers will be easy to defeat (not our Military - Obama's followers soldiers) Obama says version of Simon says
Elizabeth Christian (Diary) Wednesday, February 11th at 11:19PM EST (link)Did anybody else notice that when he was in Florida at that “town hall meeting” that looked more like an Oprah episode – and at the beginning Obama said – let’s keep our questions short and I will try and keep my answers short (yeah right he is blah blah blah about nothing forever) – and he said just raise your hands – and a majority of the crowd raised their hands – he was talking about if you have a question and Obama says “no not now just if you have a question” – it was kind of like Simon says Obama style – kind of sad and kind of funny to see his worshipers looking like the complete idiots they are.
Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
~Benjamin Franklin
The Obama Storm Troopers
MNConservative (Diary) Wednesday, February 11th at 11:25PM EST (link)Our military will make very, very quick work of them.
Rage against the dying of the light...
DONTREADONME (Diary) Thursday, February 12th at 12:22AM EST (link)I just remembered this gem from high school literature class, sometimes I do have a Photo memory though blurry focus at times. This is by
Dylan Thomas
“Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.”
The poem basically means fight against the losing of your sight more or less metaphorically.
I remember that poem
CarlSchurz (Diary) Thursday, February 12th at 12:51AM EST (link)Or a variation thereof From Babylon 5: In the Beginning. The speech the President of the Earth Alliance makes right before the Battle of the Line.
War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse. A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.
Ah, behold the power of Television
DONTREADONME (Diary) Thursday, February 12th at 12:55AM EST (link)now if I can only get bugs bunny back on the TV so my nieces and children will be able to learn some history.
No Sarcasm meant in the previous post...
DONTREADONME (Diary) Thursday, February 12th at 12:57AM EST (link)Bugs had some history in it even though it was watered down for children. WWII and that one episode where Daffey Duck is trying to escape that man from the draft board.
I always wondered how Disney got to be so big
kyle8 (Diary) Thursday, February 12th at 1:00AM EST (link)when the Warner Brothers cartoons were 1000 times funnier.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
Heh
CarlSchurz (Diary) Thursday, February 12th at 1:17AM EST (link)WB cartoons weren’t really meant for Kids. There is a cartoon of Porky Pig hammering a nail and he hits his thumb then starts to stutter a swear word and winds up saying Son of a Gun. Then he looks at ya and says the swear word.
War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse. A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.
Babylon 5 was AWESOME!
MNConservative (Diary) Thursday, February 12th at 1:04AM EST (link)n/t
I remember it from Rodney Dangerfield
gekster (Diary) Thursday, February 12th at 1:00AM EST (link)From Back to school. To me it meens go down kicking and fighting.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
Ok folks, 2012 is here. Get involved
People Innately Sense the Wrong
CFPeterson (Diary) Thursday, February 12th at 8:47AM EST (link)There has been a growing sense that something is wrong. Its not new. Its been growing for years. When scores aren’t kept at soccer games, when murderers are freed on technicallities, etc, etc. We also see these little signs of the bigger wrongs. But no one has really figured out the essence of that wrong. Once they do, and are able to relate it to the population, a movement will start the likes of which we have never seen in America.