There are “oopsies” and there are “OOPSIES”. This one may be the King of the Oopsies.
Some background. During the ’08 primaries there were a whole bunch of issues that stood in the path of Mike Huckabee’s desire to be President. One of them was the 1,000+ pardons he granted to convicted felons in Arkansas. Today the inevitable was reported by the Seattle Times…
Maurice Clemmons, the 37-year-old Tacoma man being sought for questioning in the killing of four Lakewood police officers this morning, has a long criminal record punctuated by violence, erratic behavior and concerns about his mental health.
Nine years ago, then-Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee granted clemency to Clemmons, commuting his lengthy prison sentence over the protests of prosecutors.
“This is the day I’ve been dreading for a long time,” Larry Jegley, prosecuting attorney for Arkansas’ Pulaski County said Sunday night when informed that Clemmons was being sought in connection to the killings.
I’m not going to carry on about this, I commented at length during the primaries, but to note that this kind of thing will drive a big wooden stake through the idea that Huckabee’s judgment is anything but seriously flawed. It will be very interesting to see how he tries to spin this.
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Well, we didn’t have to wait long.
Should he be found to be responsible for this horrible tragedy, it will be the result of a series of failures in the criminal justice system in both Arkansas and Washington State.This commutation made him parole eligible and he was then paroled by the parole board once they determined he met the conditions at that time. He was arrested later for parole violation and taken back to prison to serve his full term, but prosecutors dropped the charges that would have held him. It appears that he has continued to have a string of criminal and psychotic behavior but was not kept incarcerated by either state. This is a horrible and tragic event and if found and convicted the offender should be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law. Our thoughts and prayers are and should be with the families of those honorable, brave, and heroic police officers.
OK, so I get it. It kinda works out to, Gee I’m really sorry that I made a little mistake and if the cops and prosecutors in two states hadn’t screwed up he’d have been in prison.
I’d deconstruct that disgusting piece of crap from the Huckster but it’s late and I’ve gotta go to bed. That plus the fact that I am so sick of this fourteen faced serial liar who is never at a loss to blame everybody else that my heart probably couldn’t take it.
Good riddance schmuck. I hope you enjoy political hell because you deserve it. You are more dishonest than Obama.
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And any second right on cue, Anteater will be here to defend anything Huckabee does in 3...2...1
BlackConservative (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 10:37PM EST (link)Nice job becks, though we seem to not agree on who is a good candidate lately, I will certainly say that we can definitely agree on who isn’t a good candidate. Just another nail in the coffin of Slick Mikey.
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Oh no I have no need to defend it
Anteater (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 10:45PM EST (link)Huck can defend his actions for himself. In this case, it is semi-justifiable to shorten the sentence of a 17 year old whose main offense was robbery and possession of a gun (unlike the Dumond case).
I actually already commented on this in two of the other diaries. I was actually just waiting for the RedState diaries to show up.
But I agree this will hurt. Maybe a little less than Dumond hurt Huckabee.
Anteater, you're a Troll. nt
mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 10:49PM EST (link)Oh, and not a very good one. nt
mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 10:50PM EST (link)I am recommending this post for posterity
Anteater (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 1:24PM EST (link)Let’s talk again in 2011.
here is Anteater on cue
pilgrim (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 10:45PM EST (link)http://www.redstate.com/biggator5/2009/11/29/huckabee-granted-clemency-to-suspected-police-assassin/#comment-326
Too Late
BigGator5 (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 10:46PM EST (link)Too late.
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Thanks BC.
mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 10:47PM EST (link)We’re not as far apart as you might think, and remember ’12 doesn’t matter yet. And we are 100% in agreement about the Huckster.
Anteater has hit both of the other diaries, I just smacked him on one of them. Somehow, given our contentious relationship I’ll be surprised if he shows up here.
The Huckster was already saying: 'Less than likely' I'll run in 2012
izoneguy (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 10:38PM EST (link)http://www.politico.com/blogs/politicolive/1109/Mike_Huckabee_on_rather_he_will_run_in_2012.html?showall
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
The bass-playin' former Guv best do the boogie for high ground.
Kenny Solomon (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 10:45PM EST (link)If he owns up to being wrong….. REALLY wrong…… about a lot of stuff like this, then he may be able to keep a career as a weather reader on an emergency service network.
Wouldn’t surprise me if he resigns from the Fox show effective immediately too.
Nah.
fmaidment (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 10:57PM EST (link)Huck won’t quit at Fox. Too narcissistic for that (hey, we can smell our own). Though if this story gets legs, he won’t be able to run in ’12.
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he's singing doo-wop with Dukakis now (nt)
blooch Sunday, November 29th at 11:04PM EST (link)“Lieutenant Dike wasn’t a bad leader because he made bad decisions. He was a bad leader because he made no decisions.”
I'm not going to miss him
E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 10:47PM EST (link)He’s the worthless SOB that sucked up lots and lots of Fred votes.
Kill the Terrorists
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Yes, and we will never forgive him for that one. nt
janis (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 10:50PM EST (link)Fred had already dropped out...
mschmitt (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 7:24AM EST (link)… by the time it reached Florida (along with every one of my other choices). Still, if given another chance, I’d vote for Huckles the Clown every time over McCain.
So, there ya go Huckabee 2012 campaign, straight from one of your primary voters: find somebody as repugnant as McCain to run against and you might get some of our votes back (maybe you should start printing up your Crist/Snowe bumper stickers now).
usque ad finem
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E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 8:37PM EST (link)Huckabee’s pro-life voters would have voted for Fred, but listened to the preacher instead of the facts.
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Oh it's the fail we've all been waiting for!
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The Huck Stops Here. nt
redneck_hippie (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 10:52PM EST (link)5 -nt-
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Yes, he's toast, mbecker...but here's some context.
Mr_Ed (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 10:55PM EST (link)The suspect had served 11 years for an aggravated assault and burglary he committed when he was 17 when Huck granted clemency (not a pardon).
Having said that, the details really don’t matter. I agree that Huck’s political career is now over.
I can’t help but wonder if there is any coincidence to the timing of the shootings this morning. The shootings occurred at 8:15 this morning (pacific time)…likely just around the time Fox News Sunday was airing in Seattle/Tacoma…at about the same time during the show that Huck was being interviewed and said a 2012 Presidential run was “less likely than more.”
All of our hearts go out to the slain officers’ families. I suspect Huckabee is as personally distraught as anyone outside of the families, but no matter…this is not about his feelings tonight.
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I would certainly hope...
fmaidment (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 11:00PM EST (link)…that Huck is distraught. Any other reaction on his part would be inexcusable.
Pardons and clemency should be the final step in the process, and only in the most egregious and extreme circumstances. This didn’t qualify.
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Wrong context Mr_Ed. Although I understand
mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 11:12PM EST (link)your point.
The context is that as Governor, Huckabee granted 1,033 pardons in his 10 years in office. At 250 work days per year that would be one pardon every 2.5 days. We’re not talking about reviewing the cases of people in the county jail for misdemeanors. We’re talking convicted felons in state prison. We also don’t know how many applications for pardon he turned down, so the 2.5 days per pardon is actually very conservative given the probability that he reviewed some he didn’t grant.
I’m hard pressed to believe that he could do any sort of a reasonable review of the cases in that time. And, given press reports – only one example – there are lots of legitimate questions about the process.
You’re right about today being about remorse for the officer’s families. But if Huckabee’s picture flashes across anybody’s viewfinder this episode should be a major indictment of his judgment. Which sucks.
And, I’ll be very interested to see if he tries to weasel out of the heat with spin you and Anteater have tossed out. And there’s a big difference between you and Anteater. You’re rational, he’s a bot.
Two and one-half days of review is too generous, becker.
spainishirish (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 11:22PM EST (link)You know he spent most of those 2.5 days considering new and improved tax and spend proposals.
I've never liked the Huckster, Becker,
Flagstaff (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 3:05AM EST (link)and his statement reveals why, for me. He’s a weasel.
True, he may not have been the one to finally ‘pardon’ this character, but in the most egregious cases itemized by Michele Malkin, it’s clear that had he not taken the first step to commute sentences and to support these felons in their cases before the parole board, they would not have been released so soon, if at all.
A Governor can’t take the steps he took unless his goal is to have the prisoners out on the street. He can’t put the blame on the parole board, because if he hadn’t taken the first step, the board couldn’t have changed a thing.
Has there been any suggestion of bribery? That’s a lot of pardons, even compared to Clinton. I hope this does finish him.
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Note the facts
Anteater (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 1:34PM EST (link)Reagan pardoned 600 in 8 years of being California governor. That’s 1 in every 3.3 days. And I bet the Malkins of the world would be raving against Reagan too for his pardons, tax hikes, and soft stances on immigration.
Clemmons is actually a red herring for the Huck-detractors. It is very easy to justify the 11-year reduced sentence of a minor who initially got 60 years for armed robbery. The fact that the criminal justice system let him go the second time is a big mistake and not one that Huckabee made.
If you play the cause-and-effect game too far back a lot of people can be blamed.
Did you *read* Malkin's piece?
aesthete (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 1:44PM EST (link)Huck didn’t pardon some misdemeanor charges, or continue in Clinton’s footsteps by pardoning non-violent felonies, but extended clemency to felons who committed violent crimes. Huck was more liberal than Clinton on crime. Chew on that for a moment. As far as I’m aware, Reagan didn’t pardon violent offenders, and he didn’t pardon people on the amorphous charge that they’ve “changed”, as Huck’s reason seemed to be.
Also, I have yet to see a single legislative or executive accomplishment on Huck’s part that could be considered conservative, much less in the larger context of a Governorship more liberal, and arguably as corrupt, as Slick Willie’s.
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aesthete, why bother.
redneck_hippie (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 1:54PM EST (link)We are seeing here a secular example of eternal life, i.e., delusion of a Huckist.
No rational person would state “pardoned 600 in 8 years” as counterargument. That is, no adult human who had paid attention in 5th grade math class.
Indeed
aesthete (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 2:01PM EST (link)Especially since he messed up with the math in the first place (365*8/600 = 4.86).
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LOL -- he subtracted weekends and holidays. LOL. nt
mschmitt (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 2:06PM EST (link)usque ad finem
Could do the math on how much larger the prison population
Achance (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 2:07PM EST (link)in CA was at the time as well. I’m not interested enough to do the research, but I’m willing to bet CA’s prison population even in the ’70s was several multiples of AR’s in the ’90s. These days CA’s incarcerated and supervised population is larger than some states!
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That was my point.
redneck_hippie (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 2:11PM EST (link)Most adult humans get the concept of fractions and percentages before leaving grammer school.
I considered doing a more complete analysis
aesthete (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 2:11PM EST (link)But figured that pointing out Anteater’s third-grade level error was enough to damage the fool’s credibility, esp. considering the largeness of the state.
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Please engage me in your analysis
Anteater (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 2:26PM EST (link)Reagan = 600 pardons in 8 years = 1 in every 3.333 days
Huckabee = 1000 pardons in 10.5 years = 1 in every 2.5 days
Contrary to the popular meme that all those that were pardoned were violent criminals, most of the pardons above were for petty offenses.
Largeness of state is quite orthogonal to the issue, since there is still only one bottleneck through which all these pardons go through — the governor.
"Orthogonal," such a big word for something akin
Achance (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 2:33PM EST (link)to beside the point. Anyway, you’re wrong. If, say, AR has a prison population of 10K and CA had a prison population of 100K, the CA governor is likely to be the “bottleneck” ten times as often.
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Please read what I wrote
aesthete (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 2:48PM EST (link)I don’t care what the popular meme is, the truth (you know, that thing that most Huck supporters studiously avoid running into) is that Huckabee extended clemency to violent felons where Clinton and his predecessors did not. That was an intentional change in policy, and we can see from the results that it was a bad one.
The largeness of the state is indeed important, as it bring up the question of the size of the prisoner population, and the ratio of prisoners pardoned to people eligible for this pardoning. Unless AR had a problem with its judicial system, there was no reason for such a large number of pardons relative to its prisoner population, esp. its much smaller population of felons. Again, Reagan made no outstanding changes to policy in this area while he was Gov., and as far as I’m aware, did not habitually pardon felons, as Huckabee was wont to do as governor.
If you’re having a tough time with those two issues, there’s no point in me even attempting a more complete analysis. That isn’t meant as a parting shot, but merely as an acknowledgement that you either participating in this debate in bad faith, or with your blinders on. In any case, it would be wasted.
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My hypothetical analysis
redneck_hippie (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 2:57PM EST (link)would have looked like this.
Since I raised the math challenge:
X = AR prisoners.
4X = California prisoners
600/4X is a larger proportion than
1,033/X is, because “X” is 4 times smaller than
“4X”.
Your bottleneck is another way of stating the problem, from administrative viewpoint versus numbers viewpoint.
I have no issue with your statement. Just showing the quick and dirty math that flashed through my mind when I read anteater’s comment.
"smaller proportion" nt
redneck_hippie (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 2:58PM EST (link)You left out some facts, schmuck.
mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 1:58PM EST (link)During his trial the “minor” – who was 17 years old and in Arizona would likely have been tried as an adult – assualted detention officers and threatened the judge.
We’ve been through all the bull s**t from you about Reagan’s record, it wasn’t relevant or comparable the last time we beat the crap out of you for raising this straw man and it’s even less relevant now.
Huckabee is an outright liar (his denial about his taxing ways in AR), he has shown consistent bad judgment in his pardons and is opposed by prosecutors in AR as well as the local newsmedia who are far from leftist smear merchants, he’s got a very fiscally liberal record as governor, supported Mexico handing out “consular cards” that support illegal immigration, he is at least as ethically challenged as Clinton with his attempted theft of the governor’s furniture and his “wedding gifts” when he left office.
You are an unbelievable idiot and should stick to eating ants. You dirty up Redstate every time your name appears.
Does this account have ANY redeeming qualities?
redneck_hippie (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 2:07PM EST (link)600 prisoners in California are equivalent to 1033 prisoners in the dinky backwater of AR?
Come on, why is he still here?
No.
aesthete (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 2:16PM EST (link)No.
I have no idea.
Seriously, is it just me, or are all the wrong people (Obama, Huck, SWWNBN, Bush) constantly compared favorably with Reagan?
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Maybe Huck wanted to buy a reputation for "social justice"
clowngirl (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 12:55PM EST (link)I remember reading that Huckabee got a surprisingly high percentage of the African American vote. I wonder how many of these pardons involved convicted felons who were poor and black and how much that increased his popularity with the black community. Maybe releasing violent criminals was his way of pandering.
It is importatnt that Clemmons should have been re-incarcerated and was not. Those people who failed in their clear duty and let him stay free should also be held accountable.
compassionate conservatism strikes again
kyle8 (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 11:03PM EST (link)See, I don’t like to be spiteful, but this is what you usually get when you elect people who wear their religion (or ideology) on their sleeve.
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Aw come on kyle thats not fair
BlackConservative (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 11:07PM EST (link)One thing you can never accuse W of is being soft on crime. Texas routinely has execute more people than any other state in the Union. I don’t recall any Willie Horton’s sneaking out the Lone Star State. Let me fix your comment for you…this is what you usually get when you have an electorate that is stupid. Does Arkansas deserve that-with 2 terms of Slick Willie and ten years of Huckabee, yes Arkansas, you are stupid.
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Just another point of agreement BC. nt
mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 11:21PM EST (link)yes but GW was stupid in other ways
kyle8 (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 11:34PM EST (link)Like treating all illegal aliens as our long lost brothers and not even getting rid of people from moslem countries with expired visas.
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I agree wholeheartedly there
BlackConservative (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 11:39PM EST (link)Just saying, I give the man credit for some things. He had his faults, but I don’t call soft on crime as one of them. Can’t say the same for the Slickster.
Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven.-Jesus Christ
I also seem to recall
mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 11:42PM EST (link)- a dangerous thing at my age – that Huckabee commented in reference to GWB being “compassionate” that we hadn’t seen anything yet, just let him be President and we’d see the real meaning of compassion.
Well Hucks did want to roll with Johnny Mac
BlackConservative (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 11:45PM EST (link)Nothing like compassion with a knife in your back. Now there’s change you can believe in.
Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven.-Jesus Christ
that is frightening
kyle8 (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 11:50PM EST (link)And to think, a LOT of Republicans fell for his slick hucksterism.
Like I told them at the time of the primaries. “How is it that to the rest of us this guy comes off as a used car salesman, why can’t you see the obvious?”
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
Same reason 69.5MM people missed it on the other side. nt
mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 11:56PM EST (link)I just want to know
The_Rebel (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 11:06PM EST (link)what does it take for someone to begin the process of investigating all of those 1000+ pardons before more lives are lost? How many lives lost does it take? How many families destroyed does it take? Maybe nothing can be done about those pardons now, but at least the public can be put on notice about these felons.
Finally SOMETHING that will keep Huckabee....
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 11:11PM EST (link)out of 2012 this is the BEST news I have had in days!
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Not Good News At All
BigGator5 (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 11:16PM EST (link)This is not good news at all.
Granted I dreaded Huckabuck running in 2012, but did it really need to take the death of four people?
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Oh absolutely not Gator nor did my comment...
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 11:18PM EST (link)insinuate that people had to die for Huckabee to be stopped in 2012 but being a real JERK you saw it that way….now slither away!
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Just Saying
BigGator5 (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 12:18AM EST (link)I’m just saying, there is nothing right about this whole thing.
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Hey, Jaded, calm down a tad
Raven (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 3:01PM EST (link)When did you get like this?
Even I read it as having that connotation. Though knowing your posting history, I was pretty sure you didn’t mean it that way. But you really Should be more careful with your wording (or at least a little less aggressive when you get called on it).
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Huckleberry
tazzmax Sunday, November 29th at 11:23PM EST (link)has always been a phony,….acting as if he was a conservative.
Early on in his campaign, his love for illegal aliens was exposed.
Pols or judjes who give clemency should be held accountable for criminals’ acts after they’re released, IMO.
Therefore, they might “think twice” before they grant pardons, parole etc!
Clemmons is only a suspect,
proudmarinemom (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 12:10AM EST (link)so all of these comments are out of line.
What? The police have never gone after the wrong man before?
I’m not defending Gov. Huckabee here. He never should have pardoned this man based on what I am reading. Until solid evidence is presented that this guy is the one, we all need to withhold judgement.
Remember the census worker recently found to have committed suicide after leftist blogs condemned his “murder” by right-wing nuts.
Slow down.
Frankly, it doesn't matter if he's guilty of this.
mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 12:15AM EST (link)Take a look at the outstanding charges against him in AR and the charge he beat because the prosecutors screwed up. The is no choir singer, he’s a career violent criminal.
Huck’s done.
If you'd like specifics as to why this particular incident
mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 12:28AM EST (link)doesn’t “matter”, check out Michelle Malkin.
This is just a big rock on a huge pile of pebbles.
"only a suspect" applies only to the courts
Neil Stevens (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 8:12AM EST (link)It does not demand that people turn off their brains.
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Compassion
Big Apple Infidel (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 12:17AM EST (link)Compassion given to evil is stupidity. Once again, an irredeemable piece of garbage has taken the second chance given to him by stupid elected officials and used it to commit an act of evil.
Tonight 9 children go to bed knowing that one of their parents was murdered in cold blood. That’s who deserves compassion.
Not only is Huckabee accountable for this. So are the criminal justice officials in Arkansas and Washington state, mostly elected, who repeatedly let this monster free to walk amongst the innocent, despite his continued violent criminal behavior.
All their names should be outed and they should all be shown the door. They are supposed to serve and protect the law abiding, not the criminals.
Greetings from occupied territory!
Goodbye and good riddance
Finrod (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 12:35AM EST (link)Huckabee was my next-to-last choice in 2008, ahead of only John McCain.
Let’s get down to brass tacks here. How much for the ape?
Maybe you're more a Chris Simcox type of guy,
ubetcha Monday, November 30th at 1:00AM EST (link)He is projected at four points, but surely he’s got the extremists fired up.
McCain is under some pressure from another viable candidate in Hayworth and will work to keep his Senate Seat.
Personally I’m not sure why John wasn’t supported better as our candidate. I admire his history of surviving adverse conditions, which is collectively what we have now.
Either way his next primary is shaping up to be a tight race according to the current polls.
http://washingtonindependent.com/68487/poll-mccain-could-lose-primary-in-arizona
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2009/11/21/20091121poll1121.html
I’m a lefty pretending to be a Republican. That is why I got banned. Why do I do such stupid things? My Leader, Barack Obama, is a miserable failure, and so I come here to cause trouble.
I doubt McCain can be ejected from his Senate seat
Finrod (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 3:36AM EST (link)But, I wish good luck to anyone trying.
Let’s get down to brass tacks here. How much for the ape?
G'bye
Neil Stevens (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 4:08AM EST (link)Moby.
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No West Virginia Huckabee/McCain cabals this time!
Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 12:42AM EST (link)No matter who happens to run in ’12 on the Republican side, we’ll be so much better off without him acting as a spoiler.
Tim Schieferecke
My condolences to the families of the deceased
Illinicon (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 12:51AM EST (link)who unfortunetly like too many Americans have had to prematurely bury love ones because of politicians who do not enforce the rule of law. Laws regarding the ability to sue elected officals need to change, because what Huck did here and what the mayors in sanctuary cities do in turning a blind eye to criminal illegal aliens is neligence in the most basic meaning of the word and the only way it will stop is when they are held accountable for their actions.
My Potus shortlist
declared candidates:
1. Tim Pawlenty
2. Herman Cain
3. Gary Johnson
4. Rick Santorum
among declared and rumored candidates:
1. Rick Perry
2. Tim Pawlenty
3. Rudy Giuilani
4. Herman Cain
Huckabee's statement does not say even once that he made a mistake.
antisocial (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 2:07AM EST (link)Or why he made this choice. Why did he ever grant Clemency to a convicted felon?
Mr. Huckabee,
You have demonstrated through that statement that you lack moral courage to own up. You call yourself a man of faith and values? What a shame. And don’t give us the usual compassion garbage. ALL politicians should be prohibited from using that word. Especially you.
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The Emperor has no clothes!!!
The cover-up worse than the original crime
bk (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 6:41AM EST (link)Better to try to weasel by saying he fooled you into thinking he’d been reformed than to act like you did the right thing and then everyone after that screwed up.
He comes up with a piece full of excuses...
antisocial (Diary) Tuesday, December 1st at 12:30PM EST (link)http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/huckabee_clemency_police/2009/11/30/292403.html
I take full responsibility for my actions of nine years ago. I acted on the facts presented to me in 2000. If I could have possibly known what Clemmons would do nine years later, I obviously would have made a different decision. But if the same file was presented to me today, I would have likely made the same decision.
He should be on his knees, begging for forgiveness.
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An '08 Campaign Classic.
Third Street (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 2:39AM EST (link)“Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery.” –Wilkins Micawber, “David Copperfield”
P.S.
Third Street (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 2:54AM EST (link)I could not be more relieved at the final toppling of this guitar-picking, Oprah-clone-talkshow-hosting, McCain-enabling, comb-overed “Deliverance” reject.
But I am saddened and angered that his downfall came at the expense of the lives of four people.
If this toad ever gets it into his head to try to run for anything ever again, this ought to be everywhere.
“Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery.” –Wilkins Micawber, “David Copperfield”
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Dude, that video just made my morning!
wesley1 Tuesday, December 1st at 10:52AM EST (link)nt
Disappointed
proudmarinemom (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 3:09AM EST (link)to read these comments.
I am as conservative as they come and I love justice, even frontier-style, “take all the rope in Texas, find a tall oak tree” justice. But this righteous condemnation before all the facts are in is disturbing to me. The anger is understandable, but must be directed toward those responsible.
What if this suspect did not commit this horrendous crime? What if some other scumbag did this and will remain free to do this again? What if the police are looking for the wrong guy? Justice must be allowed to work here.
Again, Huckabee was WRONG to pardon Clemmons, but we don’t know yet whether Clemmons was involved. Cool heads need to prevail and let real justice be served. If he did this, he should be sent to a place where he can never hurt anyone again (Hell).
Deepest, most heartfelt sympathies to the families of the fallen heroes who gave their lives for us. They will not be forgotten. As a mom of a young man who is out there fighting criminals too, my heart breaks for the families.
PMM, you're far too generous.
Third Street (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 3:35AM EST (link)Clemmons shouldn’t even be in a position to be a suspect. He ought to be cooling his heels in an Arkansas prison, but thanks to Mike Huckabee he’s running around in Washington state and is apparently the prime suspect in the murders of four police officers.
And he’s only one of over a thousand such scum who owe their undeserved freedom directly to Mike Huckabee. 1000+ time bombs scattered about to who-knows where. We knew about this nearly two years ago, and we knew there was no reason to believe Wayne Dumond would be the last manifestation of Huckster’s legacy.
“Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery.” –Wilkins Micawber, “David Copperfield”
I guess you don't read the replies to your comments PMM.
mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 8:01AM EST (link)See the Michelle Malkin link under your earlier comment. The problem is that this simply highlights Huckabee’s lousy judgment and his smarmy character with his press release.
I saw the story on Malkin before I saw it here
proudmarinemom (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 11:04AM EST (link)and yes, I do read the links.
You started this diary on the premise that Huckabee is finished because this man, Clemmons, committed this crime, a fact which has not been established.
Key words: “this” and “this”.
Huckabee apparantly dealt with this guy when he was a teenager in prison for 60 years for robbery. Reports are that the guy became a more serious problem in another jurisdiction at a much later time.
Now, if you want to impugn Huckabee for other foolish and reckless pardons, okay, but that is not relevant to the murder in cold blood of these four police officers. And justice dictates that there be at least an arrest and arraignment before the verdict. We’re all about upholding the Constitution here and we should be all about upholding justice in the criminal system as well.
I repeat my deepest sympathy to the families.
Ahhhh, no. nt
mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 11:33AM EST (link)As in "no," we don't
proudmarinemom (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 11:59AM EST (link)need to care about justice?
And if the wrong suspect is arrested and some other creep gets away with this, you’re okay with that, as long as this former governor (who is not running for office) gets his come-uppance.
While we’re practicing this kind of justice, let’s bring the 9-11 suspects to NY and put them through a civil trial, that way we can demonstrate what a scum GWB was, right? Who cares if it’s right or wrong, as long as Bush goes down, right?
I don’t like Huckabee either, but I’m not joining the premature lynching.
The only reason I haven't awakened TheBunny
mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 2:22PM EST (link)is the middle of your username. Now then, pay attention…
1. I don’t really give a damn one way or the other whether “the accused” is guilty or not. This isn’t about him, it’s about Huckabee.
2. The very fact of the number of times he’s been arrested while on parole from his original crime speaks volumes and should have been more than enough to keep him locked away forever.
3. THE POINT is much simpler than you’re trying to make it in your convoluted fashion: Mike Huckabee’s judgment sucks and disqualifies him from being a candidate for POTUS.
4. To say that you’re stretching a point with the NY trial is the undersatement of the year.
5. If you actually think that Huckabee is NOT running for office you need to take some time off. Like maybe the rest of your life. That’s what politicians do, they run for office until they’re beaten so badly that they see the light. That almost never happens.
Clemmons was parolee
R. George Dunn Monday, November 30th at 7:02AM EST (link)Yup, when you are on top, the sharks circle looking for blood. Can’t even bury the dead without being attacked. This suspect is not even found guilty and it is Gov. Huckabee’s account. Sad state of affairs when supposed good people act so disrespectful. How many people get paroled every day? Is being paroled the same as a pardon? NO! Did the parol board find reason to not parol? NO! Was it twenty years after parol? YES!
If we are going to save this Nation from itself, mybe we better save ourselves from ourselves first? The quest of We the People is to unite around the Constitution, not slash each other up for personal gain. I could go after near all the candidates of potential, but we can wait for the primary and do it based on who supports what, not who has a scab to tear off.
If you are a RINO, please find yourself in the wrong party. That is our passion for the day. And whoever called Gov. Huckabee so, is blind. And anyone who wishes to compare the actions of a Governor to the powers enumerated to the federal Government, has not a clue to what the Constitution enumerates States to be in power over. There is a huge difference between a conservative Federalist Governor’s actions and that of the Federalist President.
We need unity, not division in the conservative camp.
Petition of the Supreme Court Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr., that, to wit: Be it known henceforth, “the Value of the Elected Representative of the United States of America, who has taken the Constitutional Oath of Office, shall be of the authority to challenge any Law to which is deemed Unconstitutional.” Let FREEDOM Reign!!!
Hi fool.
mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 7:58AM EST (link)Point number one. If you really want to see “unity” in the camp the first thing you do toss Huckabee on the campfire. In the world of RINOs he is King. Better Susan Collins than Huckabee.
If you can’t figure out why then you’re stupid as well as a fool.
Good riddance to both you and Huckabee.
This is a joke, right?
Neil Stevens (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 8:08AM EST (link)Mike Huckabee is the dirtiest, nastiest fighter on our side since Dick Nixon.
Remember when he claimed opponents of illegal immigration weren’t Christians? Or when he attacked Mitt Romney’s religion? Or his wild attacks on the Club for Growth?
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Agreed, and if you want to see what's wrong with...
Insight (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 9:43AM EST (link)a segment of the population that we have counted on to share conservative values, look at the responses to Huckabee’s statement on his HuckPac website here: http://www.huckpac.com/?Fuseaction=Blogs.View&Blog_id=2907
These people put identity politics over common sense and don’t seem to understand the relationship between religion and politics.
G'bye
Neil Stevens (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 9:56AM EST (link)Yeah, that about seals your mobydom.
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Is SCHIP constitutional?
aesthete (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 10:19AM EST (link)Does it fall under the constitutionally proscribed duties of the executive or legislative branches? No?
Then why was the great federalist Huckabee supporting its expansion?
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=22774
Next time, shill for someone who deserves it more.
The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton
I'm not a big supporter of SCHIP
Richard Mullins (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 10:46AM EST (link)It’s not all that good and it created an Insurance group of sellers in years following. It’s a big power grab for leftist Democrats in state legislatures and the those representatives that don’t pour money into it get demonized(my state Rep got blasted by the Dems this year during the 140 day session of the Texas Legislature). I really wished that we would get rid of it, simply because it’s a waste of money.
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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.
Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.
Ditto
aesthete (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 10:52AM EST (link)Another in a long line of Democrat constituency programs that fall into the category of For The Children™.
The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton
Well defunding SCHIP is one thing I can't accuse our Republicans not doing
Richard Mullins (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 11:33AM EST (link)It’s a good thing we do that well and other states should take a cue from us. I’m big hearted person but I don’t think that SCHIP is a way to go.
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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.
Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.
a "FOND" farewell to huckabee...from Mbecker? ...LOL nt
AceInTX (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 8:18AM EST (link)I suspect that in this Becker context
bk (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 1:55PM EST (link)FOND = FRAK OFF ‘N’ DIE
or something similar
Replace frak
aesthete (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 1:58PM EST (link)with something else, and you’re getting warmer.
The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton
Perfect. Absolutely perfect.
mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 2:04PM EST (link)And, I checked with Franz and this gets the “Prince Seal of Approval” accompanied by tail wagging, dog kisses and a certificate that entitles you to have one person killed and eaten.
I had to keep it clean plus a nod to BSG is always okay
bk (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 2:07PM EST (link)Hehe, true, I love that reboot
aesthete (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 2:19PM EST (link)and the 80s show it was loosely based on, so I can’t blame someone who goes with his better instincts and references it.
The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton
my thoughts exactly...I think he despises Huckabee almost as much as I do McCain...Almost
AceInTX (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 9:33PM EST (link)because it’s not possible to despise anything or anybody more than I despise McCain…LOL
Now we part company.
mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 9:39PM EST (link)I will match my “despise” for McCain against yours any day.
And, I do like Huckabee less.
LOL...you can mach my disdain for McCain...but not exceed it because I despise him to infinity to the infinite power!!! nt
AceInTX (Diary) Tuesday, December 1st at 8:46AM EST (link)I have to say hatred of Mike Up-Chuck-abee
ZeusKingoftheGods Tuesday, December 1st at 11:59AM EST (link)is probably more profound than both of your hatreds of McCain & Huckabee put together.
I really just want to punch him in the mouth & knock his teeth out and that stupid grin off of his face everytime I see the lying SOB.
My hatred of Up-Chuck-abee
ZeusKingoftheGods Tuesday, December 1st at 12:00PM EST (link)that is.
Skipping letters again?
Richard Mullins (Diary) Tuesday, December 1st at 12:07PM EST (link)I have that problem too a lot. I’m not much a liker of Huckabee’s and I don’t fall in to Zombie like following that happens with politicians like him. By By old dumb one.
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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.
Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.
Wasn't Huckabee the Chief Law Enforcement Officer of Arkansas?
tankertodd (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 10:39AM EST (link)How can Huckabee possibly blame the criminal justice system in Arkansas for letting this guy out? That’s like a parent explaining that he’s not accountable for his kid breaking car windows. First rule of leadership as explained by the head grasshopper to Princess Atta in “A Bug’s Life:” “everything is your fault.” The military puts it better: you are responsible for what your unit does or fails to do.
Governors should not be releasing prisoners. They should be executing the ones they have. I would love to see a Governor develop an immediate review process for all death row inmates, identify the ones who are “dead to rights” guilty, and then proceed to line them all up and shoot them, personally if necessary. Should take a couple of days, tops. Governors need to hire Brown and Root, the guys who build tent cities for the military, and expand prison capacity immediately. Mobilize Military Police to guard them if you need to, and don’t forget the M-60 machine guns in the towers.
Enough is enough.
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Blue lights outside Huck's house yet?
blooch Monday, November 30th at 11:28AM EST (link)http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/30/washington.police.shooting/
“Seattle, Washington (CNN) — The suspect in the fatal shooting of four police officers kept authorities at bay early Monday — seven hours after a massive manhunt tracked him to a house in an east Seattle neighborhood…”
“Early Monday, authorities started identifying Clemmons as a suspect, rather than as someone wanted for questioning…”
“Police were not looking for anyone else, but had arrested several people who had “helped” Clemmons, said Pierce County sheriff’s spokesman Ed Troyer.”
H/T AOS
“Lieutenant Dike wasn’t a bad leader because he made bad decisions. He was a bad leader because he made no decisions.”
Somewhere, Romney is secretly converting to Hinduism....
Marcus_Traianus (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 10:51AM EST (link)..having become a believer in concepts such as Karma and sa?s?ra….
“Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object—the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good. One side believes it best done by one composition of the governing powers; the other, by a different one. One fears most the ignorance of the people; the other, the selfishness of rulers independent of them. Which is right, time and experience will prove.”.Thomas Jefferson
Personally Romney and Huckabee are 2 peas in a pod
Richard Mullins (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 11:11AM EST (link)Really the only that separates them is the Romney is a Mormon and Huckabee is a Baptist. It really doesn’t matter to me since both are sort of Grade A stupid.
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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.
Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.
What's with the word "fond"?
Veronica (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 11:01AM EST (link)I only look with fondness on the vacuum he will leave behind.
Once Huckabee’s useless “presence” (truly, he didn’t have “presence”) and ugly mug is removed from the airwaves, someone more worthy will take his place .. if FOX knows what’s good for them.
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Huckabee would have been a trainwreck as our nominee
crosley (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 11:53AM EST (link)I’m amazed so many conservatives fell for the Huckster, he still consistently polls at either number one or two for the Presidential nomination among Republicans.
Are there that many single issue Republicans that only care about the abortion issue? On every other conservative issue, Huckabee is awful. He’s really no different than Jimmy Carter (who was also pro-life)
I agree, this drives a stake through Huckabee’s Presidential ambitions. It’s just sad so many had to die in the name of “compassion.” The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
Barack's pulling a Huckabee by releasing Gitmo detainees
SoFiMil (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 9:18PM EST (link)I’m aware that Bush did the same thing with some of the detainees, but this has got to stop.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/26/pentagon-cites-evidence-gitmo-detainees-returned-battlefield/
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"The Christian Leader"... The DixieCan Party Is Dead....
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Tuesday, December 1st at 1:45AM EST (link)How about those fake kneecaps douchebag. I have about a ten paragraph diary to write. I’ll keep it inside for now.
Signed:
A Catholic.
You F’in Douchebag. It aint 1920, a**hole.
James Lileks says it's time to start calling him "Huckawas"
bk (Diary) Tuesday, December 1st at 8:55AM EST (link)Here is something both Huckabee and Obama can think about
izoneguy (Diary) Wednesday, December 2nd at 4:11PM EST (link)Cop killer hailed as ‘Muslim martyr’
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/12/cop_killer_hailed_as_muslim_ma.html
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
The governor read you letter and laughed out loud
izoneguy (Diary) Wednesday, December 2nd at 10:25PM EST (link)http://documents.nytimes.com/01huckabee?src=tp#p=1
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.