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	<title>Comments on: Yeah, well like, prolly if we all went to school in, like, California&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just love companies who do business like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just love companies who do business like that.</p>
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		<title>By: mom2oneson</title>
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		<dc:creator>mom2oneson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First in those situations I was not allowed to say I don&#039;t have that information. Secondly I was in a situation where I had to say a scripted response and the question did not fit any appropriate response I could use. Third is where my sympathies to the young lady come in is where I had to respond with something or else be marked down for that. The anxiety alone right there is bad. 
There are companies that give you more room to even say I need to check that but not every company is like that. Even doing that though puts you at a risk for a write up for not meeting the effeciency standards becasue it takes longer. It&#039;s a no win situation. I think the effeciency standards drive many of the good employees away  who are responsible and take ownership for anything that may come up and the people that could care less (like I&#039;m sure we have all spoken too) stay because they don&#039;t have that inegrity and could care less. What you said is what customers want but it may not be what the company wants. Here is a true story, with a company I work part-time for, a  customer my supervisor to compliment me, so I escalated to my supervisor, the same call got me write up because it took to long because of the time he was on with my supervisor.  LOL  Now some people just won&#039;t follow directions, want to do their own thing, want it their way, are lazy, I am not talking about those quality markers, but some things just make no sense even as far cost wise because the company ends up paying for more customer service when things are messed up. So please don&#039;t say I&#039;m incompetent because I didn&#039;t say what you thought should be said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First in those situations I was not allowed to say I don&#8217;t have that information. Secondly I was in a situation where I had to say a scripted response and the question did not fit any appropriate response I could use. Third is where my sympathies to the young lady come in is where I had to respond with something or else be marked down for that. The anxiety alone right there is bad.<br />
There are companies that give you more room to even say I need to check that but not every company is like that. Even doing that though puts you at a risk for a write up for not meeting the effeciency standards becasue it takes longer. It&#8217;s a no win situation. I think the effeciency standards drive many of the good employees away  who are responsible and take ownership for anything that may come up and the people that could care less (like I&#8217;m sure we have all spoken too) stay because they don&#8217;t have that inegrity and could care less. What you said is what customers want but it may not be what the company wants. Here is a true story, with a company I work part-time for, a  customer my supervisor to compliment me, so I escalated to my supervisor, the same call got me write up because it took to long because of the time he was on with my supervisor.  LOL  Now some people just won&#8217;t follow directions, want to do their own thing, want it their way, are lazy, I am not talking about those quality markers, but some things just make no sense even as far cost wise because the company ends up paying for more customer service when things are messed up. So please don&#8217;t say I&#8217;m incompetent because I didn&#8217;t say what you thought should be said.</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mbecker908/2009/07/25/yeah-well-like-prolly-if-we-all-went-to-school-in-like-california/#comment-1693</link>
		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saying something incorrect because you didn&#039;t have the info and were afraid of saying something wrong is just plain incompetence when it&#039;s on the clock.

&quot;Do you know how to work the paint mixer?  Then please match this paint.&quot;  And then the guy wanders off down the paint aisle to find the paint that matches the card.

You tell the truth.  That&#039;s what customers want to hear.
&quot;I don&#039;t have the information right now, but if you&#039;ll give me a minute, I can get the information or someone more knowledgeable on that specific item for you.&quot;
And then you Get That Info or person.

THAT is what your customers want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saying something incorrect because you didn&#8217;t have the info and were afraid of saying something wrong is just plain incompetence when it&#8217;s on the clock.</p>
<p>&#8220;Do you know how to work the paint mixer?  Then please match this paint.&#8221;  And then the guy wanders off down the paint aisle to find the paint that matches the card.</p>
<p>You tell the truth.  That&#8217;s what customers want to hear.<br />
&#8220;I don&#8217;t have the information right now, but if you&#8217;ll give me a minute, I can get the information or someone more knowledgeable on that specific item for you.&#8221;<br />
And then you Get That Info or person.</p>
<p>THAT is what your customers want.</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And no one can talk to a horse, of course, unless, of course, that horse, of course, is the famous Mr Ed!&quot;


I loved that show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And no one can talk to a horse, of course, unless, of course, that horse, of course, is the famous Mr Ed!&#8221;</p>
<p>I loved that show.</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still a big business.  I wonder why...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still a big business.  I wonder why&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>more practice writing than speaking.  My best example is a History class I took at the U here a few years ago.  It was a 400 level class with several hours of History as a prerequisite called Seminar on the Holocaust.  It was an elective, so nobody had to be there. There were thirty and change students; myself and a couple of other adults and the remainder were upper division college students in their late teens, early twenties.  Not half of them could have put the Holocaust in WWII, WWII in the right century, nor told you who the major participants and leaders were.

The tasks were to choose a theme, read three books consistent with that theme, write a not less than twenty page paper on that theme, and give a ten minute precis of the paper to the class.  Most of them spent more than half the semester trying to come up with a theme and a proposal that the professor would accept (and he was anything but a demanding professor).  No more than three or four of them could actually do the ten minutes precis in any organized and articulate fashion.  None of them really had a true beginning, middle, and end.  The young men mostly mumbled and hemmed and hawed for three or four minutes and sat down.  The young women sang their disorganized messes much like the young woman in the video.  The Ed Majors, male and female, all came equipped with graphic aids and note cards then went on and on for fifteen or twenty minutes until the prof put them out of their misery for lack of time.  All were colloquial and ungrammatical.  It was one of the more painful things I&#039;ve ever witnessed but I sat through it out of morbid fascination all the while thanking my stars that I don&#039;t have to rely on Social Security and these people&#039;s earning power in my old age.

In the later days of my career with the State, most of my subordinates were young lawyers.  Even they had a terrible time with hearings because they weren&#039;t particularly articulate or quick on their feet.  They knew the law and were good at analysis and writing, but they&#039;d had little or no training in oral argument or in conducting adversarial hearings.  They could write you a nice memo on relevance or probative value, but they couldn&#039;t quickly make a relevance objection and then explain why they did it.  I spent a LOT of time making them do mock hearings before they got sent into real ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>more practice writing than speaking.  My best example is a History class I took at the U here a few years ago.  It was a 400 level class with several hours of History as a prerequisite called Seminar on the Holocaust.  It was an elective, so nobody had to be there. There were thirty and change students; myself and a couple of other adults and the remainder were upper division college students in their late teens, early twenties.  Not half of them could have put the Holocaust in WWII, WWII in the right century, nor told you who the major participants and leaders were.</p>
<p>The tasks were to choose a theme, read three books consistent with that theme, write a not less than twenty page paper on that theme, and give a ten minute precis of the paper to the class.  Most of them spent more than half the semester trying to come up with a theme and a proposal that the professor would accept (and he was anything but a demanding professor).  No more than three or four of them could actually do the ten minutes precis in any organized and articulate fashion.  None of them really had a true beginning, middle, and end.  The young men mostly mumbled and hemmed and hawed for three or four minutes and sat down.  The young women sang their disorganized messes much like the young woman in the video.  The Ed Majors, male and female, all came equipped with graphic aids and note cards then went on and on for fifteen or twenty minutes until the prof put them out of their misery for lack of time.  All were colloquial and ungrammatical.  It was one of the more painful things I&#8217;ve ever witnessed but I sat through it out of morbid fascination all the while thanking my stars that I don&#8217;t have to rely on Social Security and these people&#8217;s earning power in my old age.</p>
<p>In the later days of my career with the State, most of my subordinates were young lawyers.  Even they had a terrible time with hearings because they weren&#8217;t particularly articulate or quick on their feet.  They knew the law and were good at analysis and writing, but they&#8217;d had little or no training in oral argument or in conducting adversarial hearings.  They could write you a nice memo on relevance or probative value, but they couldn&#8217;t quickly make a relevance objection and then explain why they did it.  I spent a LOT of time making them do mock hearings before they got sent into real ones.</p>
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		<title>By: mom2oneson</title>
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		<dc:creator>mom2oneson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t blame the kids though..unless someone sits down and practices with them consistently through the years or buys them a watch or keeps a clock in their home, they will not learn it becuase analog clocks aren&#039;t around for them to pick it up after a few lessons in math class.
My son is way past the age to know how to do this and a few weeks ago I ordered a Judy Clock and an analog clock stamp to practice with him.  I guess buying him a watch or analog clock might help too. :D Usually time is taught in first and second grade math - sometimes third but it ends there. Children don&#039;t have continued practice with beyond there since these clocks are so scarce now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t blame the kids though..unless someone sits down and practices with them consistently through the years or buys them a watch or keeps a clock in their home, they will not learn it becuase analog clocks aren&#8217;t around for them to pick it up after a few lessons in math class.<br />
My son is way past the age to know how to do this and a few weeks ago I ordered a Judy Clock and an analog clock stamp to practice with him.  I guess buying him a watch or analog clock might help too. <img src='http://www.redstate.com/mbecker908/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  Usually time is taught in first and second grade math &#8211; sometimes third but it ends there. Children don&#8217;t have continued practice with beyond there since these clocks are so scarce now.</p>
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		<title>By: Britcom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Britcom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>goes on about.  All I can hear is that awful noise that ally cats make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>goes on about.  All I can hear is that awful noise that ally cats make.</p>
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		<title>By: bk</title>
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		<dc:creator>bk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kids today need to take ESL classes because their primary language is &quot;texting&quot;. I&#039;m sure I&#039;d commit suicide if I were an English teacher.

And BTW here&#039;s one I learned recently from my wife, who works at a local high school - a typical middle class suburban one. All these kids who don&#039;t know how to write English also don&#039;t know how to read a regular analog clock. The only clocks they see are the digital ones on their phones, iPods, or computers. None of them wear watches any more - at least not for the purposes of telling time with them. I swear to God I am not making this up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kids today need to take ESL classes because their primary language is &#8220;texting&#8221;. I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;d commit suicide if I were an English teacher.</p>
<p>And BTW here&#8217;s one I learned recently from my wife, who works at a local high school &#8211; a typical middle class suburban one. All these kids who don&#8217;t know how to write English also don&#8217;t know how to read a regular analog clock. The only clocks they see are the digital ones on their phones, iPods, or computers. None of them wear watches any more &#8211; at least not for the purposes of telling time with them. I swear to God I am not making this up.</p>
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		<title>By: nessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>nessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no text needed.</description>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in standard English because they have so little experience at it.  Unless they get it at Church, home, or in some extracurricular activity, they don&#039;t get any experience in speaking to a group other than small personal groups of other young people.  Almost no teachers call on students to answer questions aloud or to memorize poems or literary passages and recite them.  This is the product of the self-esteem garbage since some do this sort of thing better than others, they don&#039;t want anyone to feel bad, so nobody ever gets any experience in talking to groups or speaking in any language other than teenage patois.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in standard English because they have so little experience at it.  Unless they get it at Church, home, or in some extracurricular activity, they don&#8217;t get any experience in speaking to a group other than small personal groups of other young people.  Almost no teachers call on students to answer questions aloud or to memorize poems or literary passages and recite them.  This is the product of the self-esteem garbage since some do this sort of thing better than others, they don&#8217;t want anyone to feel bad, so nobody ever gets any experience in talking to groups or speaking in any language other than teenage patois.</p>
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		<title>By: randy streu</title>
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		<dc:creator>randy streu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nt.</description>
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		<title>By: mom2oneson</title>
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		<dc:creator>mom2oneson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry didn&#039;t mean to keep at it until you were sighing.  :)  :)  I agree with you on education. I&#039;m a huge fan of homeschooling. :-) If you read any of the DC voucher threads my POV is take them out, get books from the library and homeschool them, regardless of their parent or guardians education, the will learn more at home with good books than in PS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry didn&#8217;t mean to keep at it until you were sighing.  <img src='http://www.redstate.com/mbecker908/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://www.redstate.com/mbecker908/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I agree with you on education. I&#8217;m a huge fan of homeschooling. <img src='http://www.redstate.com/mbecker908/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  If you read any of the DC voucher threads my POV is take them out, get books from the library and homeschool them, regardless of their parent or guardians education, the will learn more at home with good books than in PS.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Mullins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Mullins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness that our fore fathers worked on a better way than the old system that the brits have for centuries.</description>
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		<title>By: randy streu</title>
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		<dc:creator>randy streu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could sit here and point out all the reasons that&#039;s not a good argument, but honestly, it doesn&#039;t matter.  It happened two years ago, and I only posted it as an amusing comparison to the video above.

It makes you feel good to defend this kid for being clueless, that&#039;s aweome.  Honestly (and sincerely), it speaks very well of you as a person to come to the defense of this person you don&#039;t know.  Maybe I&#039;m old and jaded.  I just honestly don&#039;t care, except about what this clip (and the statistics the clip is referring to) says about the state of education in this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could sit here and point out all the reasons that&#8217;s not a good argument, but honestly, it doesn&#8217;t matter.  It happened two years ago, and I only posted it as an amusing comparison to the video above.</p>
<p>It makes you feel good to defend this kid for being clueless, that&#8217;s aweome.  Honestly (and sincerely), it speaks very well of you as a person to come to the defense of this person you don&#8217;t know.  Maybe I&#8217;m old and jaded.  I just honestly don&#8217;t care, except about what this clip (and the statistics the clip is referring to) says about the state of education in this country.</p>
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		<title>By: mom2oneson</title>
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		<dc:creator>mom2oneson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>having to give an answer quickly? Have you never been in the situation where you had to speak but something happened and you weren&#039;t prepared? I&#039;ve said stupid things to customers because I knew I had to speak quickly and at the same time was afraid of saying the wrong thing and and I wasn&#039;t prepared with the information they needed. She said later on she didn&#039;t hear the question and I am sure it jut snowballed with the pressure of needing to say something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>having to give an answer quickly? Have you never been in the situation where you had to speak but something happened and you weren&#8217;t prepared? I&#8217;ve said stupid things to customers because I knew I had to speak quickly and at the same time was afraid of saying the wrong thing and and I wasn&#8217;t prepared with the information they needed. She said later on she didn&#8217;t hear the question and I am sure it jut snowballed with the pressure of needing to say something.</p>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the theme song from &quot;Mr. Ed, theTalking Horse&quot;.  

&quot;A horse is a horse, of course, of course.......&quot;   I dare not try to remember more of it lest it be playing in my head the rest of the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the theme song from &#8220;Mr. Ed, theTalking Horse&#8221;.  </p>
<p>&#8220;A horse is a horse, of course, of course&#8230;&#8230;.&#8221;   I dare not try to remember more of it lest it be playing in my head the rest of the day.</p>
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		<title>By: randy streu</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mbecker908/2009/07/25/yeah-well-like-prolly-if-we-all-went-to-school-in-like-california/#comment-1678</link>
		<dc:creator>randy streu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you compete in a pageant, you get ready or you get out.  She was representing her whole state -- clearly, she&#039;s done this before.  Not only that, but it&#039;s not as though she was just thrown into the situation.  She asked to be in it. 

If she can&#039;t answer a simple question (she wasn&#039;t asked to solve poverty, war AND education -- perhaps you, also, should have listened to the question) with a coherent, if not informed, opinion, that&#039;s honestly not my problem.  It&#039;s part of the competition.  People prepare to get on Jeapardy -- I&#039;d think some minimal preparation (beyond hair and makeup) would be called for here.

Perhaps it&#039;s appropriate that the real answer to the question is that there&#039;s an utter failure in the educational system to prepare students for life.  Even so, she asked for it; so &quot;fair&quot; or not, she&#039;ll have to own her stupidity.  That&#039;s life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you compete in a pageant, you get ready or you get out.  She was representing her whole state &#8212; clearly, she&#8217;s done this before.  Not only that, but it&#8217;s not as though she was just thrown into the situation.  She asked to be in it. </p>
<p>If she can&#8217;t answer a simple question (she wasn&#8217;t asked to solve poverty, war AND education &#8212; perhaps you, also, should have listened to the question) with a coherent, if not informed, opinion, that&#8217;s honestly not my problem.  It&#8217;s part of the competition.  People prepare to get on Jeapardy &#8212; I&#8217;d think some minimal preparation (beyond hair and makeup) would be called for here.</p>
<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s appropriate that the real answer to the question is that there&#8217;s an utter failure in the educational system to prepare students for life.  Even so, she asked for it; so &#8220;fair&#8221; or not, she&#8217;ll have to own her stupidity.  That&#8217;s life.</p>
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		<title>By: TNJim</title>
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		<dc:creator>TNJim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 03:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...vegetable trees??

C&#039;mon! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;vegetable trees??</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon! <img src='http://www.redstate.com/mbecker908/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: penguin2</title>
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		<dc:creator>penguin2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 03:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and it is difficult to speak in front of a crowd.  I actually believe she may have been using drugs or on medication.  Just some of her statements seemed out of touch with reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and it is difficult to speak in front of a crowd.  I actually believe she may have been using drugs or on medication.  Just some of her statements seemed out of touch with reality.</p>
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