Gosh, won’t this be interesting…


From Sunday’s Washington Times

ANCHORAGE, Alaska | Brushing aside the criticisms of pundits and politicos, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said she plans to jump immediately back into the national political fray — stumping for conservative issues and even Democrats — after she prematurely vacates her elected post at month’s end.

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“I will go around the country on behalf of candidates who believe in the right things, regardless of their party label or affiliation…”

Hmmm. Rather than committing to help build a stronger, more conservative Republican Party she’s willing to campaign for Democrats who “believe in the right things”. Of course, I suppose she could have missed the fact that elected Democrats who probably fall into that category, like the “BlueDogs”, vote in lock step with NancyP unless, and only if, they are given absolution.

This will, indeed, be an interesting development, and frankly it’s lost on me. I would think that building a strong Republican Party would be what someone who is looked on as a potential national leader would be working on. Somehow, giving up seats to Democrats who will end up supporting the anti-conservative themes and programs makes no sense. Like it or not, “moderate” Republicans – who I long on record as having no use for – vote more conservatively that “conservative” Democrats.


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Given the way too many party leaders and pundits have treated her

civil truth (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 7:23PM EST (link)

…plus her past track record on Alaska, Sarah may not exactly feel a strong loyalty to the Republican Party at this point, or at least not an exclusive loyalty to Republican candidate

That said, as you point out, Sarah does need to look at the larger picture to see how the “Blue Dog” or so-called “conservative” Democrats actually vote when the chips are down.

Then again, I don’t see a lot of evidence that Sarah engages in strategic thinking.

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

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Merely being a Dem in Congress and therefore voting for Pelosi

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 7:46PM EST (link)

empowers the far left, so if she does that, she will have betrayed the movement.

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She first said it during her resignation speech.

Steph C (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 7:54PM EST (link)

All the pundits translated the statement as meaning support for Republicans but that’s not what she said because she made a point of saying “any party.” Also, during that speech she also specified that whomever she supports has to walk the talk (conservatism) so it’s not going to be blind support.

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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As with everything else Steph,

mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 7:56PM EST (link)

we’ll just have to wait and see. Her statement in the Times was pretty clear.

I'm just saying that what she said in the times

Steph C (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 8:01PM EST (link)

is along the lines of what she has already said.

I agree with your diary title, too. It’s going to be real interesting in the near future.

I have to admit I’m curious to see how she does this thing she’s talking about. I can’t see her pulling it off, either, considering what the “blue dogs” do once they drink the D.C. water. Or maybe it’s something in the air…

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Obama campaigned as a conservative

Beaglescout (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 9:49PM EST (link)

I’m just saying there is no reason for a politician to keep their campaign promises. If Sarah says she’ll support any conservative, no matter their political party, and then ends up supporting only Republicans because a “conservative” Democrat is not really conservative, that says something about Democrats that is not good. Conservative Communists aren’t really conservative either, more like Leninists instead of Stalinists. They both killed millions by starvation and other cynical forms of genocide. Stalin happened to perfect killing other communists who had outlived their usefulness where Lenin didn’t. And that’s about the difference between conservative and leftist Democrats, the leftist Democrats will backstab other Democrats more freely than the conservative ones. They both suck at the economy, national defense, and social issues.

“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.”

–Alexander Hamilton
 
 
 
 

But the problem Mike,

mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 7:55PM EST (link)

as you well know, isn’t that they just “vote for Pelosi”. They then vote as Pelosi orders them to.

I envy the Democrats on one thing, discipline.

That's not discipline, it's fear. nt

Steph C (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 8:02PM EST (link)

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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I envy them for many things:

aesthete (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 8:03PM EST (link)

Message control, institutional subversion, their ability to protest effectively, effective national strategy, voter education (or indoctrination, either term works), etc.

The ideology that they espouse? Not so much.

The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton

Nail meet hammer. nt

mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 8:05PM EST (link)

Actually, I don't admire any of what they do.

Steph C (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 8:14PM EST (link)

Everything you listed is about control. Control leads to power over. Myself, I prefer to empower rather than overpower. But that’s just me, I suppose.

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the media serves as their protector - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 8:17PM EST (link)

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To some extent, true, but I don't care how long a politician's leash is

aesthete (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 8:35PM EST (link)

They’re going to be controlled by someone, and I think that it would be just as well if that “someone” was us. As such, I envy that the liberals in the Democratic party have more influence over their pols than conservatives over theirs. Note the disuse of the word, admire :) The rest (protests, institutional monopolies, and voter education) I only see as controlling if they are done involuntarily, or with government money, as Democrats do by subsidizing and further radicalizing their livelihoods (funding for teachers and the like).

Again, their philosophy isn’t admirable, but boy would I like to have the conservative/libertarian version of the tools that they use to carry forward their agitprop.

Hopefully, that clears up my view on their tactics.

The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton

the conservative/libertarian version would be

Steph C (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 9:09PM EST (link)

the tools Kirk gave us, expounded upon in ways that even a third grader can understand, a sort of dumbing down, but empowering at the same time. We have to be able to get their attention before we can get them interested. If it’s too complicated, they’d rather go listen to the MSM’s talking points, if even that.

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Well, I see where you're coming from

aesthete (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 10:31PM EST (link)

I don’t agree with you, but hey, I also disagreed with Reagan, no hard feelings :)

The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton

lol

Steph C (Diary) Sunday, July 12th at 10:48AM EST (link)

no hard feelings.

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Follow the money, follow the law.

Achance (Diary) Sunday, July 12th at 12:13PM EST (link)

We have to understand their tactics, but we can’t use many of them because our natural constituencies won’t accept being handled the way the dependent, mind-numbed robots that support the Democrats accept the way they’re treated.

Republicans really don’t understand the power of a government and have largely proven themselves incompetent at running them and susceptible to ham-fisted corruption. The Democrats had fifty years of almost untrammeled power after WWII and they made most of their corruption legal or nominally so. Republcans stick their hand in the cookie jar or steer a contract to a friend and they get caught because the press is always watching for them to steal or have an affair; they don’t watch Democrats.

We had six years of having the Congress and a Republican President as well as a pretty reliable 5-4 majority on the USSC – AND WE DID NOTHING WITH IT DOMESTICALLY that reflected Republican governance. In those almost fifty years, the Democrats set up and funded an entire shadow government of law firms, special interest groups, non-profits, government contractors, unions and union contractors. When the Democrats are out of power, all their operatives and exiled officeholders move seamlessly into the shadow government and academia and never miss a paycheck, usually make more money out of power then in. When the Democrats are in power,they have all the resources of the shadow government to help them popularize and carry out their agenda. When Republicans lose power, all their operatives have to either go to work for Democrats, which definitionally makes them less loyal than Democrat operatives, or go back to flyover country and sell real estate or cars or something.

For all of GWB’s tenure we fed that hand that was biting us. We fed ACORN, the unions through all their non-profits and their training and education programs that use federal funds. We fed all sorts of contractors to government that are no more than Democrat fronts. We sent out billions in federal grants to organizations that work against us or serve constituencies that will NEVER vote for a Republican. Every Republican governor in the Country is doing the same thing because they won’t take the heat for not taking the federal money. The brutal reality is that NOBODY working for a federally funded program is EVER going to vote Republican. Even the construction money goes almost exclusively to Democrat supporting union contractors and Democrat voting union labor.

Few of these recipients of federal funds could survive any sort of audit and they almost never get one under Republicans and never get one under Democrats. Just making them file their FSRs or other expenditure reports would be enough to cut many of them off because they can’t even do it. Actually scrutinizing those reports would cut many more off and even put some in jail. Actually auditing performance would cut most of the rest off and put many more in jail becuse most of these enterprises don’t do anything but employ Democrats and give them time to do Democrat things. And finally, if we ever get into power in DC again, we need to turn the IRS on them and take away their non-profit status if they engage in politics or if there is overlap between their political arm and their “non-profit” arm since most work as money laundries to get federal and state match program money into political hands.

Republicans need to get over our obscession with “nice.” When someone says we’re being partisan and mean-spirited because we shut down some program or cut off some publicly funded non-profit for failure to keep adequate records or failing to perform, we need to learn to just turn to them and say, “I WON.”

In Vino Veritas

Absolutely agree WRT following the law

aesthete (Diary) Sunday, July 12th at 7:09PM EST (link)

I don’t think that we should break any laws, whatwith our being rule of law folks, but I do think that the (legal) tools progressives use to keep a unified caucus and convert voters over to their side (such as their 24/7 commitment to voter “education”), if adapted for conservatives, could be useful.

The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

oh, amen - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 8:16PM EST (link)

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exactly - anyone how votes for Pelosi is not a conservative period

bk (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 8:49PM EST (link)

“Blue Dog” translates into “Liberal running in a conservative district who lies about being conservative in the hope of getting elected”.

And once in office, they pray that enough idiot republicans will cross over to allow Madame Nancy to give them permission to vote nay so they can add it to their conservative bona fides for the next election.

At least an out and out liberal is more honest than these creeps.

 
 
 
 

If my browser was working, I'd recommend

aesthete (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 7:25PM EST (link)

To be frank, that statement sounds like it could have come from McCain (and it probably has, at some point). I don’t understand what Palin would even gain from such a statement; certainly, she wasn’t perceived as Mrs. Bipartisan [All Rights Reserved] when running for VP last year.

The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton

You just have to keep punching the button.

mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 7:29PM EST (link)

I have the same problem, with other diaries of course. ;-)

 

aest... thanks for the extra effort. :-) nt

mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 7:58PM EST (link)
 

Not to worry

SteveLA (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 7:26PM EST (link)

mbecker

I hear this guy has been hired to “spin” this as a good move….

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Competency over ideological purity and litmus tests

Oh yeah. Josh Painter. nt

mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 7:28PM EST (link)

MOAB

SteveLA (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 7:29PM EST (link)

Mother of All Bots

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Competency over ideological purity and litmus tests

 
 
 

I agree this should be interesting

pilgrim (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 8:19PM EST (link)

I can see that this should be interesting, and also refuse to agree with SteveLA and Josh P. They represent to me the Palin hater and Palin worshiper sides of this. Both of them cannot be right, and they may both be wrong. I am willing to watch and see what happens. She may work for Constitutional Party candidates. Nobody knows.


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YOU'RE NOT A CONSERVATIVE!!!!!!

randy streu (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 9:09PM EST (link)

Sorry. Thought I’d get a jump on it.

Seriously, though, this should actually be pretty easy for Palin to walk away from. NOBODY in the Democrat party espouses the Conservative values which Palin says she’s supporting. So, if she DOES stump for a lib, it’s pretty clear she can’t be trusted.

Personally, I think she, like most people who say similar things, did it to point out she’s supporting policy; and not party. Which I understand. In most cases, like most Conservatives, what this means is most likely that she’ll be promoting Republicans. Perhaps the occasional local 3rd partier.

Unfortunately, I think she’s ignoring where she has the potential to do the most good: stumping in the primaries. Now that she’s unattached, she has the opportuntiy to help out good candidates, like Rubio, for example, where they are running against pseudorepublican tools.

You must have me confused with somebody who is old and hard of hearing.

mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 9:17PM EST (link)

Oh.

Oh well.

I doubt she’s going to be stumping for any “libs”. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see her show up for an independent or some sort of third party candidate.

I disagree that it was some sort of “policy” statement. I think it was an “F you” statement to the Party.

But again, we’re down to conjecture. Let’s see what she actually does. And, while I’m at it, I’ll be REALLY interested in her speeches if she does come out and support people in the upcoming election. Will she puff up herself and make her speeches essentially the Palin Policy Parade, or will she actually speak on behalf of the candidate.

Time will tell.

 
 

I'll say this much

Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 9:24PM EST (link)

The day she backs somebody who backs those pro-tax, pro-abort trolls Pelosi and Reid, is the day I file her with Colin Powell.

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I'll Put Her There The Day She Supports *Any* Democrat...

IJB Saturday, July 11th at 9:39PM EST (link)

…Regardless of what Dem “says” they’re for or who they’ll vote for in leadership votes.

Anyone who supports any Dem *ever* is dead to me.

I wouldn't go that far

Neil Stevens (Diary) Sunday, July 12th at 3:33AM EST (link)

Imagine the uproar if a Palin Democrat voted, oh, Cantor for Speaker.

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She's a gift that keeps on giving, this is today's missive:

Achance (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 9:47PM EST (link)

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/861480.html

This is from the person who once claimed to have cleaned up Alaska with “her” Ethics Act reforms. Admittedly, the ones the Ds have pilled on since her VP Nomination are frivolous, but the ones from the Monegan-Wooten matter weren’t and the one about the emails is still pending in court. She’s cooked the books on how much the State spent on them and if she’s spent as much as she says she has personally, others have paid it for her; she raised $400K almost instantly.

Now she’s provoked what may well be a Constitutional crisis over the Lt. Gov. succession. I finally broke down and did the research that I said that I wouldn’t and it looks like Alaska law doesn’t contemplate there being a Lt. Governor at all if the Lt. Gov. moves to the Governor. Some of the Lt. Gov’s ministerial duties go to a member of the Cabinet designated by the Lt. Gov and the office remains vacant until the next gubernatorial election. Of course, her new pet AG came up with some theory of “acting” status for her pick but “acting” is a creature of the Personnel Act and appointed and elected officials are exempt from the Personnel Act.

Please, just let July 26th get here and, though I know she won’t shut up, it will at least be less interesting to the media when she’s no longer Governor.

In Vino Veritas

"a gift that keeps on giving" - like herpes? -nt-

civil truth (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 11:01PM EST (link)

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

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SP is throwing hand grenades

izoneguy (Diary) Saturday, July 11th at 10:28PM EST (link)

All the lib writers will take anything she says and contort it to stretch their view of reality. SP is throwing out some lines to see what they do with them. She may have said word for word what the paper reported. She has done nothing yet. The intention is to throw both parties off kilter. Eventually the political machines will finally figure out the threat is real. I don’t believe anything any politician says. Once they make policy or vote on something then it is just words. In the era of Obama people should understand that words & slogans mean nothing. And in Obama’s case neither do contracts or the rule of law….

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.

 

Listen to the whole context of SWMNBN's interview. She actually said it to reach out to the moderates ..... FOR THE WIN. nt

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Sunday, July 12th at 7:10AM EST (link)

Excellent point

SirGladiator (Diary) Sunday, July 12th at 7:39AM EST (link)

I agree with that, but there is also a larger point, where I disagree with a lot of the people who have commented already. All this blind loyalty to the Republican Party, and the idea that supporting any Democrat over any Republican is bad, is so far beyond absurd at this point, I don’t even know how to respond to something like that. I know that a lot of people fall into the ‘our side is always right, their side is always wrong’ brain dead mentality, but shouldn’t the folks on this website be smarter than that? Its funny, I was about to create a diary on this point, about how its far more important to elect new Conservatives than it is to elect Republicans. When the Republican Party gets a majority, but Conservatives dont have a majority, you get like what you had under Bush, and what you have under Obama, huge socialist government. I would rather have the socialism under the Democrats only, and when we, the Republicans, finally take over, it is with a clear Conservative majority who will not under any circumstances go along with the liberalism/socialism from either party.

If we put Boehner in charge of the House again, and don’t have enough Conservatives in there to keep him in line, you can’t possibly expect things to be any different than last time can you? I mean, if you’re sane you can’t. If you just want to put on the rose colored glasses and say ‘democrats are horrible, all will be right with the world if only they weren’t in control anymore’, after everything the Republicans JUST DID to our Country, you might want to visit the doctor, as your memory is so bad you might have altzheimers. Seriously, you DO remember that it was the Republicans who did EVERYTHING that Obama is now doing, right? You do know that while Obama is doing MORE of it than Bush did, they were both taking us down the road to socialism BIGTIME, right? I don’t want any more Republican majorities that don’t include Conservative majorities, and nobody else here should either. The more Conservative Democrats we have in Congress the better. Id rather have an openly socialist Speaker like Pelosi than one like Boehner, who pretends to be conservative while giving us the biggest defecits and debt in our nation’s history (until Obama trumped him of course).

Serioously people, this is 2009, blind party loyalty was always dumb, but nowadays its BEYOND dumb, its totally insane. Without a Conservative majority, made up of people from any party, it doesn’t matter how many ‘Republicans’ or ‘Democrats’ are in congress, the country will keep going in the wrong direction. Keep thinking ‘all is right with the world if only we could elect people who will vote against Speaker Pelosi’ if you want to, but that kind of brain dead thinking will keep America going down the wrong track, just with a different hand on the wheel. But hey, if its one of ‘our guys’ then I guess its not so bad, right? :) .

Sir, are you serious?

tcgeol (Diary) Sunday, July 12th at 10:19AM EST (link)

I don’t know whether to take your post as a joke or not. In these times, anyone who claims the Democrat party does so knowing what that implies. Sure, here and there anomalies exist, but that merely shows ignorance or apathy towards modern politics. If we count on them to win, we better be happy with living in a permanent minority, because all eight of their votes won’t do anything for us.

In a perfect world, you would be correct. This isn’t a perfect world and the Democratic party is out to destroy our country. The Republican party isn’t perfect, but we can work with them. The Democratic party is the enemy and should be considered such, not worked with like they are equals.

Just your typical bitter gun- and God-clinger

Even the Left admits we’re Right

 

Two things matter.

mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, July 12th at 10:40AM EST (link)

1. The number of Republicans in the House and in the Senate. They vote for the Speaker and determine the majority in the Senate. In both Houses the majority determines the agenda. Period.

2. Having conservatives in leadership and exercising discipline on key issues.

You will never have a “conservative majority”. You can have conservative leadership and you can have leadership that exercises discipline. The second will be more difficult than the first.

 

I Never Said Anything of "Blind Loyalty" To The GOP

IJB Sunday, July 12th at 10:48AM EST (link)

What is appropriate is blind hatred of anyone with a “(D)” after their name.

There is no such thing as a “conservative Democrat”.
Get over it.

Good thinking BUT....

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Sunday, July 12th at 11:40AM EST (link)

There is always an exception:

An elected DEMOCRAT in Wyoming is always MORE CONSERVATIVE than the current Republican Governor in California.

Not if he would vote for the Democratic Leadership. nt

mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, July 12th at 11:48AM EST (link)
 
 
 

She's an irrelevant quitter

Vegas_Rick (Diary) Sunday, July 12th at 11:39AM EST (link)

yet you hang on her every word.

No more bot central? This diary would suggest otherwise.

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“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.

Exactly. LOL! nt

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Sunday, July 12th at 12:03PM EST (link)