And while I’ve said it a lot, Art Chance has said it better at least that many times. Thanks to Andrew Breitbart in the Washington Times, we have corroboration that, in fact, Art knows from whence he speaks about governing.
For starters…
Democrats invest – with taxpayer money, mind you – in groups like ACORN that, among other sordid tactics, seek out Skid Row bodies and wheel them to polling places. All the Democratic National Committee needs are vans and smelling salts. Pop culture and the “education system” have done the rest, making “D” the default choice on Election Day.
Democrats brazenly take policy positions – think government services and even amnesty for illegal immigrants – not because they are the right thing to do, but because they are time-tested demographic bribes. Forget cigarettes and beer, Democrats would distribute needles, methadone, medical marijuana and biscotti in voter goodie bags if they could get away with it.
Andrew goes on to note…
When elected, the Democrats dole out billion-dollar bonuses to their core supporters at taxpayers’ expense. Witness the $787 billion stimulus package, an orgy of special-interest payback for labor unions, liberal activist groups and multinational corporations. One would be hard pressed to name a Democratic policy that is motivated more by principle than by winning.
There’s a whole lot more, an indictment of the media for instance, but Andrew really smacked the nail on it’s head in his close.
Republicans, on the other hand, act like a snobby condo board and appear to seek out potential voters for their savoriness. The party expects pre-existing respectable organizations, Protestant churches in particular, to do the heavy lifting. In this day of dwindling Republican appeal, the party’s ace in the hole is heard at the end of the polling day: “Have they counted the overseas military vote yet?” It’s amazing Republicans ever win.
Most disturbing, Republicans seem to think Democrats can be their friends.
Actually, I think Art referred to the doofuses as people who’d worked their way through the local Chamber of Commerce, but the net effect is the same. And Andrew drives my constant point as well. Democrats are the enemy. They cannot be your friends. And if they are, you need new friends. And if you’re a Member of Congress you need a new job, maybe as a grave digger. You’ll be able to more directly bury the country you once thought you represented.
And to Andrew Breitbart, thanks for proving once again that the wisest people publish at Redstate.
Moe Lane
Steve Maley
Dan McLaughlin
Neil Stevens
Daniel Horowitz
Oh, and please follow the link and read all of
mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, June 8th at 11:48PM EST (link)Andrew’s article. It’s not long and I left out a bunch of really good stuff.
the democratic party is vile - gc reccos - nt
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 12:09AM EST (link)Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
Yes, It's War. And There's Still Only One Side Fighting.
farstar99 (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 11:02AM EST (link)I’ve shouted this until I’m hoarse.
Let’s make it simple:
As long as ACORN exists, we cannot win.
We gave the RNC the power by giving them Congress AND the White House.
What did they do?
The sat by and compromised. They didn’t protect the Second Amendment adequately, as is becoming obvious.
They didn’t press Bush on judges, or press his candidates.
And they did nothing about this elimination of the electoral process. They handed our country to ACORN.
And what are they doing about it now?
Even if they had the power, would they do anything?
Or are they still trying to make Obama’s press like them?
I expect their fear of Obama will soon fade, in direct proportion
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 11:33AM EST (link)to the depths of this Great Recession.
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
But right now
LibRick (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 1:03PM EST (link)the Dow is at over 8700. Lots of people are seeing a more than 20% gain in their 401Ks, so far this year. Not saying it will stay that way but at this juncture “direct proportion” doesn’t exactly work in your favor.
LibRick, there are more than just one more shoe to drop.
janis (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 1:15PM EST (link)His plan to punish corporations by double taxing them will have drastic and long-lasting effects. If Microsoft and other companies make good on their threats to leave this country and take their job with them, unemployment will skyrocket. Gas is already going up and it’s well-known that this is what Obama wants anyway. Pass cap and trade and ram through the health care plan and the economy might as well just lay down and die.
And that’s probably not even the worse case scenario–through in a wide-spread war, or a major terrorist attack here or some really hideous natural disaster–New Madrid fault anyone?– and you’ve got the recipe for a whole string of Black Fridays. We are in the same situation as a family that is in debt up to its eyeballs and is only one lost job away from total disaster.
Janis...I do not
LibRick (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 11:06AM EST (link)disagree with a word you said. But you fall into the category of “informed voter/citizen.” Politicians focus on the the so called “low information voter.” These voters are about an extra dollar in their pocket…right now…kind of like a “chicken in every pot” mass mindset.
20% gain over what?
furious (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 6:12PM EST (link)…based on the calendar we’re barely breaking even.
–furious
“I find your lack of faith disturbing.” — Darth Vader
I think LibRick's baseline is the market low of March 9
civil truth (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 6:28PM EST (link)Since then the Dow Jones has recovered by almost 34% over the past three months. This has been enough of a rally that people looking over the short term are going to be feeling more comfortable about their investments and hence the future.
Of course, there are several storm warning flags out there, and it’s hard to see how we’re going to sustain these gains, but right now, people are feeling more optimistic, especially with all the “happy days are just around the corner” stories saturating the meda.
So we still may be swimming upstream at this point.
The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis
http://www.gmsplace.com/
You got it CT
LibRick (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 10:56AM EST (link)So many people are short-sited and down right ignorant when it comes to their personal finance, especially with their 401Ks.
My workplace is a good anecdotal example. Everyone there has an under-grad or advanced degree, yet I am “that” co-worker that everyone goes to for 401k advise. Many even want me to make their investment choices. (I won’t do that–I just advise to diversify based on time horizon and explain the funds) It amazes me how little attention these professional people pay to their financial future. Sometimes I think I’m the only one that ever even looks at their accounts.
These types of people see a good year to date increase. They discount the 40% losses of 2008. They perceive that things are back on track. After all, they won’t be tapping that money for many years and with these continued increases into the future they will gain everything back in very little time.
What they don’t see are the clouds on the horizon as you and Janis point out…..a second wave credit crunch and hyper-inflation within 1 to 3 years..
But I believe these people are representative of voters. If under Obama, in 2 years, (when the campaigns really start) if the DOW is hovering at 10,000 and S&P is north of 1000, there will be an optimism favoring reelection of the incumbent.
Define "Lots of People."
farstar99 (Diary) Sunday, June 14th at 1:35PM EST (link)I assume you mean the Learjet Democrats and Limousine Liberals who foisted this fraud on us…
…and not the millions of real people Obama has forced into bankruptcy and unemployment.
Pulling really sharp knife ::splitting hair:: ahhhh...
mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, June 14th at 1:47PM EST (link)Actually, neither bankruptcy or unemployment would have an impact on the value an individual 401K (unless you voluntarily withdrew funds). Unemployment won’t change the absolute market value of your fund and retirement accounts are exempt from bankruptcy proceedings.
On the narrow point, LibRick is correct and you’re grasping at straws.
5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5 nt
AceInTX (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 12:35PM EST (link)Glenn Beck's been talking about this all morning
molybdanthan (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 1:06PM EST (link)The tactic of overwhelm, and consume. It comes straight out of Karl Marx. It’s a plan of continued growth of Federal Government. Spread the wealth, and tax future generations. Pass more bills and regulations no one has read.
So the border remains open. The illegals will keep doing what they’re doing. That paves the way for Amnesty, Universal Health Care, and the most intrusive government ever seen. The stuff of Lib dreams.
ACORN is maneuvering to get its people into all the new programs being created by BHO. The Census will be run by them. That’s going to pay off for years to come. Federal Health Care will need masses of bureaucrats going around signing people up, and investigating all the small business owners.
BHO will create programs that all have unfunded liabilities. States and cities will be encouraged to take stimulus money to keep the programs alive. The Feds get an even greater hand in local matters. BHO ensures they can never be shut down by future GOP majorities by attaching a Lib constituency group to them.
Great points, farstar.
Flagstaff (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 5:40PM EST (link)Especially these:
We let a golden opportunity slip away.
“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964
I am pretty content with Roberts and Alito.
jeffreywturner (Diary) Thursday, June 11th at 11:23AM EST (link)I have to say I am satisfied with the end result of who Bush got onto the SCOTUS, but you are right on the money with the rest of it.
“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”
SCOTUS was accomplished for two reasons.
mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, June 11th at 4:07PM EST (link)1. We raised hell about Miers got that nomination scuttled.
2. Both of those nominees were so incredibly well qualified they didn’t need Bush to fight for them.
The problem with Bush & the judiciary was that he would toss names into the hat and they would be allowed to die in committee. Specter never did a damn thing and nobody forced him to. And then there’s the Gang…
The underlying point of this diary needs...
DONTREADONME (Diary) Monday, June 8th at 11:52PM EST (link)to be drilled home again and again, because when the D’s are in power their is Zero concern for what anyone thinks about what they are doing, as far as they are concerned they won the war and get to determine how to divy up the spoils.
2 quotes
molybdanthan (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 6:22PM EST (link)“The ‘have nots’ of yesterday had taken possession of the realm. Their policy was likewise simple: to stay in permanent power and enjoy the spoils of their conquest.” –W. Skousen-The Naked Communist
“To choose one’s victim, to prepare one’s plans minutely, to stake an implacable vengeance, and then go to bed… there is nothing sweeter in the world.” –Joseph Stalin
Andrew is a rising star...
speciallist (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 12:03AM EST (link)Visit bighollywood…
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/
Spot on, Mike (and Andrew) (and Art)
E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 1:37AM EST (link)It is absolutely war, against a vengeful, intractable, cheating enemy that wants to enslave America.
Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO
It's war, and we need infantry
ColdWarrior (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 1:46AM EST (link)In election battles, the Republican Party infantry are precinct committeeman.
Are you part of the Republican Party infantry?
If not, why not?
The sooner you become a Republican Party precinct committeeman, the sooner you will be able to say, “I was into being a Republican Party precinct committeeman before being a Republican Party precinct committeeman was cool.”
We have a two party system. One has figured out how to pull the wool over the eyes of a majority of voters. The other has lost its way. Conservatives need to rejoin the one that has lost its way and remake it. Registering to vote and watching the news and ranting on web sites is not enough. The FIRST thing to do is to JOIN THE PARTY AS A REAL, FUNCTIONING PRECINCT COMMITTEEMAN SO YOU CAN CHANGE THE LEADERSHIP AND AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF THE PRIMARY ELECTIONS. PERIOD.
Thank you.
I am only one. But I am a Republican Party precinct committeeman. And trying to recruit more of them who happen to be conservative.
In 2012, will YOU become a “voting member” of the Republican Party in your precinct?
Where it all started. Twitter @kaltkrieger
Unified Patriots.
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Been there...done that...not a permanent chair because I haven't bothered running...but ill in 12 nt
AceInTX (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 12:37PM EST (link)To clarify..I've chaired the convention in two different districts since 2000 as temporary precinct chair...the permanent chairs have def
AceInTX (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 12:40PM EST (link)the permanent chairs have differed to me for the conventions but I’ve never ran to make it official
It's hard to be infantry when you don't have leaders.
Achance (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 6:04PM EST (link)It was said of Stonewall Jackson’s men that they would have charged Hell with penknives if he’s ordered them to do so. That’s because he had shown them victory and concern for their welfare even while being a very agressive commander who threw them into desperate battle.
I don’t see any leaders that I want to follow and I find the self-annointed leaders out there going out of their way to try to denounce and marginalize anyone who has even the slightest hint of agression or controversy about them.
Without sharing any details, I can’t tell you how utterly frustrating, even infuriating, my first foray back into electoral politics has been. In the wake of a National coup d’etat, with a communist dictatorship running our Country, with ACORN about to do the Census and re-district the Red Districts out of existence, the G*%Da*$ed Rotary Club Republicans can only think about being nice and maintaining their “good relations” with unions, greenies, and Democrat front non-profits. If I weren’t old, soft, and spoiled I’d go back to where I was in the early Seventies and just go find myself a cabin in the woods and hope it all passes me by.
In Vino Veritas
Someone should bring a formal resolution to the RNC
mbecker908 (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 7:19PM EST (link)to change the name of the Party to The Stupid Party.
The hapless party!
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 11:57AM EST (link)The tragic incompetents party
The key stone cops party
Agreed. It is hard to be infantry without leaders
ColdWarrior (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 2:48AM EST (link)If we’re in the Army. I was. We aren’t. Unlike the military metaphor, the “infantry” PCs in the Republican Party eventually can elect new leadership. Meanwhile, before those elections, if we can get thousands of conservatives to join the Party as PCs, and communicate that fact to the current leadership, we can scare the hell out of them and urge them to principled action while we engineer their replacement via the internal Party elections.
We need a conservative revolution within the Party. By getting all the wonderful contribuors here and elsewhere to actually join the Party. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe all of the contributors here are already PCs. I really would like to know what percentage of the Redstate.com contributors are actually “in” the Party. Every time I ask, I pretty much get silence. I wonder why?
Art, I, too, would love to give up. Wish I lived in Alaska. But I have four beautiful children, too young to even worry about such things as we discuss here at Redstate, but I will be damned if I don’t do everything in my power to fight for their future. I refuse to let them live in a country less free than the one I grew up in. Yesterday a woman called me as a result of my handing her a flyer at a meeting a month ago at a Coalition for a Conservative Majority meeting. She had some “silver bullet” idea she’s been working on with others (some “let’s force the Federal Reserve to be audited” or something) and I asked her if she had become a PC. No. She wanted me to come speak at some meeting. I told her I would, IF she joined the Party as a PC. I explained (again) to her that nothing she had done had in any meaningful way changed the Republican Party, the chief adversary to the Dem. Party, whereas conservative PCs HAVE DONE SO here in Maricopa County because we voted in conservative leaders. And through a concerted effort, we are increasing our conservative numbers within the PC ranks. Finally, that seemed to resonate. She committed to become a PC and implore all her friends to do the same. I also explained to her that as a PC, one gets invited to candidate forums, like the one McCain held in Mesa about ten days ago where I got to ask him a couple of hard questions about the lack of leadership by him and the other so-called “leaders” in the Party. Call it “McCain Love Fest Interruptus.”
Let’s change this Party. By numbers. Now.
Thank you.
I am only one. But I am a Republican Party precinct committeeman. And attempting to recruit more.
In 2012, will YOU become a “voting member” of the Republican Party in your precinct?
Where it all started. Twitter @kaltkrieger
Unified Patriots.
Learn how to GOTV at The Concord Project and at Procinct and
ColdWarrior, what happend at the McCain meeting???
mbecker908 (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 8:23AM EST (link)You should write a diary on it.
Can you tell us what questions you asked...and what no answers you got in reply?
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 12:01PM EST (link)I’d live to hear it here or in a diary…
Lock and load Art...your age and experience needs to be made available...
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 11:53AM EST (link)maybe you need to be that general?!
Ace, when you're describing to them what is before their eyes
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 12:25PM EST (link)and all they can do is put their fingers in their ears and start blathering to drown you out, it is hard to get real interested in talking to them. If people can’t get past caring about what the enemy, i.e., Democrats, unions, greenies, non-profits, media, thinks of them, they have no business in this business. A great many so-called Republican leaders seem to think they’re playing bridge with friends at the Country Club when in fact they’re playing Mortal Kombat in real life with an enemy that has real weapons. And, yes, I am disappointed with some people, but I’m sad to say I’m not much surprised. We’ve seen the Country we knew virtually done away with in less than six months and there’s hardly been even a whimper from the so-called leadership of the Republican Party.
In Vino Veritas
Achance, the only thing I disagree with is ...
ZootSuit (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 12:31PM EST (link)I think this country was on it’s Marxist slide even before Obama. I blame George W. Bush and Tom Delay and the like: if those guys wre supposed to be the “conservative alternative,” I cannot blame most of America for either not knowing or not fearing socialism when they see it.
More to the point, I blame us so-called conservatives who did not stand up to the Bushes and Delays more when we should have known better.
***** Unrepentant African-American nationalist, Unapologetic African-American conservative!
Goes back a lot further than GWB, Zootsuit.
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 2:19PM EST (link)The Big Government/Good Government stuff goes back to the early 20th Century and took a decidedly socialist bent in the New Deal. There was a bit of a counter-reaction to it from the late ’40s into the ’60 as both the Rs and Ds were strongly anti-communist and anti-Soviet. Then with the Civil Rights Movement and the Anti-War Movement, open socialism came to full song with the Great Society. Nixon maybe tempered it a bit. Reagan brought back the anti-Soviet piece and held back on the reins of big government, but giving the Ds their head was often the price of re-armament.
Then, just when the Ds thought they had their Child of the Sixties in WJC, the Evil Republicans took control of the Congress and to add insult to injury WJC moderated his stances to try somewhat to work with them, or at least to stay in the big chair. Then the Evil BusHitler kept Democrat hooves out of the trough for eight years! That so-called stimulus is a quick make up for all the stealing they were unable to do for almost fifteen years. Along the way, they became bitterly anti-American as they could no longer control their contempt for the rubes from flyover country who could not see the wisdom of what had become very far left views camoflageds by a certain amount of reasonable rhetoric when they thought someone was looking.
Now granted, a tired and undoubtedly disillusioned GWB simply let all Hell break loose in the waning days of his Administration and did nothing to counter Leftist rhetoric after his reelection in ’04. After four years of relentless Democrat propaganda and no response from the Administration or Congressional Republicans, the American people were ready to beleive anything and Comrade Obama put up a chimera that they could attach their hopes for change to. I have grave doubts as to whether the Country we knew will ever be restored.
In Vino Veritas
Agree and disagree, Achance
ZootSuit (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 3:43PM EST (link)… we seem to do a lot of that, don’t we …
I agree with your recitation of history with the exception that I think George W. Bush and the Republican Party were well in the thralls of socialism way before ’04. For example, his steel tariffs enacted in early 2002.
But the reason I give George W. Bush and the Republicans of his era a special place as conductors on the road to socialism is because they did all their big government stuff as supposed conservatives. And even worse, we conservatives who should have known better let him get away with it. The Right redefined “conservatism” as big government liberalism.
Previous to Bush, when the Democrats and liberals increased the size of government, you could always say that the Republicans were different. But after Bush and Delay and the rest … well, such protests seem hollow. Let’s face it, if Bush was supposedto represent the limited government “alternative,” then our choices have devolved into a choice between “humongous large government with a Marxist touch” and “humongous large government with even more of a Marxist touch.”
I agree that President Obama is doing worse but considering how far Bush lead this country to the Left, the so-called conservative Bush and his ilk (like Tom DeLay) moved the center so far to the Left that Obama almost seems just “left of center” to a lot of people. And although I disagree with them, adamantly, I honestly cannot totally blame them.
Remember the President who said, “When people hurt, the government must act.” Such is the call of socialism (that government must address the ills and misfortune of everyone) and the President that said it was not Barack Obama.
Since the Right redefined conservatism as big government liberalism, it’s only natural that the Left redefined socialism as nothing more than American liberalism.
Like you, I fear for this country.
***** Unrepentant African-American nationalist, Unapologetic African-American conservative!
Zoot, that is exactly why...
kyle8 (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 3:48PM EST (link)I have taken the position of opposing liberal Republicans even if it means voting for and supporting their democratic opponents.
One or so more democrats can’t do nearly the harm of even one turncoat Rino, liberal SOB. If we are not the party of a clearly defined alternative message to the democrats then why even exist as a party?
We would literally be better off joining the Democrats and trying to influence them from within.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
Kyle, most times I just can't bare to pull either lever ...
ZootSuit (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 3:50PM EST (link)but outside of that, I agree with you 1000%!
***** Unrepentant African-American nationalist, Unapologetic African-American conservative!
Not so much socialism, Zootsuit,
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 4:10PM EST (link)as just big government. GWB and the Congressional leaders all just looked at the government and became country boys come to town; they could give stuff to their buddies and at least a little, keep the Democrats from giving stuff to theirs. Actually, if they’d been the evil bastards that the Ds were accusing them of being and cut into the Democrat programs and moved the money into things that benefitted Republican constituencies, they’d probably still be in power and the whole Country would have new roads by now. Instead, they largely kept feeding the hand that was biting them while going on a spending binge of their own. What they did wasn’t ideological and GWB and DeLay et al. are not socialists; they’re basically unideological nice guy types who just went on a binge of spending thinking that would keep everybody happy. Along the way, they didn’t bother to defend themselves from the Democrat propaganda and the agitprop was more effective at winning Congressional seats than was bringing home the bacon. Once the Ds had Congress, there was no effective opposition voice and the rest is history, a very sad history.
In Vino Veritas
5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5 nt
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 4:20PM EST (link)But they were ideologues, Achance ...
ZootSuit (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 4:23PM EST (link)I just don’t think we wanted to believe it.
“Compassionate conservatism”
“When people hurt, the government must act.”
Granted that they gave a far amount of lip service to conservatism but they were saying a lot of other things, too. The problem is, their actions consistently showed that it wasn’t the lip service to conservatism that they believed in, it was the “other” things that they consistently did.
***** Unrepentant African-American nationalist, Unapologetic African-American conservative!
Only if you consider "getting elected" to be an ideology.
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 4:31PM EST (link)“Compassionate conservatism” is a marketing ploy. Conservatives get the rap for letting the babies starve and all that crap, so Rove et al. wanted to calm the soccer moms’ fears that a mean old real man with shoulders like GWB would actually disciplne their kids and stuff. He really only needed a few of them to get over their love affair with that handsome, strapping, ever so sensitive Bill Clinton and he could get a minimum winning coalition. Even with that, he maybe cut it a little close. The whole thing was a cynical ploy to get elected, and it worked, barely, and twice, though 9-11 is probably the only thing really that saved GWB from being a one-term footnote like his father.
That cynicism is the reason I really don’t much like “The Architect” because while it won two elections, it may have destroyed both the Party and the Country.
In Vino Veritas
Achance, we agree!
ZootSuit (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 4:41PM EST (link)The only thing I will add is that, despite his rhetoric, I think Bush’s instinct’s tended towards a socialist (as opposed to free-market) vein. Maybe “ideological” is too strong a word but I now definitely think it was more than opportunism.
For example, have banking crisis, propose TARP.
But believe it or not, I wholeheartedly agree with what you just wrote above. Karl Rove (and Bush and Delay and others) may have destroyed our Party and our Country.
Indeed, that sentence above — which I will be so bold as to say is essentially little more than a quote of your last sentence above — is basically what I have been trying to say throughout this thread!
***** Unrepentant African-American nationalist, Unapologetic African-American conservative!
He's from the "big government" side of the Party;
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 4:54PM EST (link)his dad called Reagan’s supply side ideas “voodoo economics.” Nothing surprising there. Reagan tapping GHWB as his VP was to bring in that side of the Party; the son didn’t stray too far from the old man. I just don’t see either of them as socialists rather more the statist/big government/big business, “the business of America is business” sort of Republican from half a century ago.
In Vino Veritas
I would argue that the difference between a "statist/big government/big business" and a "socialist/Marxist" ...
ZootSuit (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 5:01PM EST (link)is ultimately a difference of degree and not of kind. As much as both sides would want to deny it.
***** Unrepentant African-American nationalist, Unapologetic African-American conservative!
I agree with that also
E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 4:45PM EST (link)I think the 50%+1 strategy was perhaps OK to get Bush elected and re-elected, but it took the soul out of the party, and absolutely contributed mightily to its ruin. We have the superior vision, the superior economics, the superior foreign policy, the superior pretty much everything, and there’s no reason NOT to run on issues and principles.
Unless you are a moral coward without the courage of your convictions. Rove gets nothing from me but the back of my hand.
Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO
Preach it brother...Rove is a modern day heretic where conservatism is concerned nt
AceInTX (Diary) Friday, June 12th at 8:44AM EST (link)Not only that...
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 4:17PM EST (link)They did it when they controlled both houses of Congress and the White House all at the same time for the first time in nearly 100 years!
Ahem...
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 4:14PM EST (link)I was a young pup in the late 60s early 70s…but didn’t Nixon expand the great society foolishness of Johnson?
You are absolutely correct, AceInTX
ZootSuit (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 4:20PM EST (link)We can start with Nixon’s “wage and price controls” and more on to what he did to Bretton Woods. And of course, ew can also mention things like Nixon creating the EPA. In fact, it was Nixon (and not LBJ) who gave us explcit racial quotas with his “Philadelphia Plan” of 1969.
The list goes on and on and on with Nixon.
***** Unrepentant African-American nationalist, Unapologetic African-American conservative!
Nixon had an overwhelmingly Democrat Congress
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 4:21PM EST (link)to contend with and had his own problems after ’72. I think his Presidency held the Ds back a good bit but, like Reagan, he really couldn’t stop them. It is well to remember that even for Reagan, the price of re-arming was often letting the Ds have their way on social spending.
In Vino Veritas
Again...I was a kid then and can't speak with authority...
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 4:25PM EST (link)but weren’t the wage and price controls done by executive order?
I was a very small child then, too, but except for the EPA I believe everything I mention above ...
ZootSuit (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 4:34PM EST (link)he did via executive order. And the EPA was an idea he first proposed.
***** Unrepentant African-American nationalist, Unapologetic African-American conservative!
Sure, they were done by EO, but the "liberals" hated
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 4:36PM EST (link)them, the unions especially, though unions were a lot different politically back then.
I’m not saying that Nixon was a conservative; he was in many ways the archetypal “Rockefeller Republican,” though the Easterners hated him like they hate all westerners. But, Nixon had no problem with big government, he just wanted the money to go to his friends rather than theirs and he held the Ds back on a lot of their plans.
In Vino Veritas
That was my point...
AceInTX (Diary) Friday, June 12th at 8:38AM EST (link)If confounding Democrats is the only criteria you used above then I’ll leave it there…I thought you were including him as a Conservative and my quibble was with that.
We don't disagree at all about the leadership...
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 4:09PM EST (link)What I’m saying is…why can’t you be our Stonewall Jackson traipsing through the Shenandoah Valley tying down 3 entire armies and confounding the enemy at every turn!
Achance I have noticed
mom2oneson (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 4:22PM EST (link)an obsession with we can’t do this or that becaue what the MSM or democrats or hateful feminist etc will say. It’s like they are paralyzed from the fear of being called a bad name. I don’t understand, who cares. We should support anyone attacked too instead of mousing away. They would stop doing it or at least pick some battles. It’s like a couple that just can’t break away from thier no matter how much you try you can’t please them in-laws so they make decisions and live their life in fear of what mom and dad will think of them.
I haven't noticed it IRL btw
mom2oneson (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 4:24PM EST (link)just from reading comments here.
Sorry didn’t mean to make it sound like I have any real life experience in politics, at all. 
Hammer meet nail...
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 4:28PM EST (link)you hit that one right on the head
The Rotary Club and Chamber of Commerce Republicans have to be loved
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 4:49PM EST (link)and can’t stand the idea that there is anyone in the World that doesn’t love them. Consequently, they RUN from any form of confrontation or controversy.
In Vino Veritas
maybe it's time WE made them feel unloved...,aybe they'll play it to our advantage if we stop coddling them! nt
AceInTX (Diary) Friday, June 12th at 8:47AM EST (link)It could get to this stage...
CJB68 Thursday, June 11th at 7:04AM EST (link)It could get to the stage where I just give up on the Republicans and go for the strongest 3rd party which supports conservative (and libertarian) ideals. Glenn Beck has said as much that the era of the “two party” system might well be over in a short time. It could take the aforementioned act of terrorism or a natural disaster which nobody has really prepared for (being concerned over building their ivory towers or political alliances). It could be something as simple as Vice-President Joe “the Gaffe Machine” Biden spewing something out that just about erases whatever tolerance of our incompetent leadership some Chinese, Russian or Arabic leader has left…
Delusional and Arrogant. The Modern Democratic Philosophy.
ColdWarrior, I finally got my app for Precinct Committeeman
mbecker908 (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 7:17PM EST (link)in LD 6…
Thank you for your help. I suspect we’ll see one another at some point.
MBecker, thanks for the update, and an update
ColdWarrior (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 1:40PM EST (link)Our Legislative District 17 meeting is next week and I will be proposing a plan to get about ten conservative precinct committeemen to recreate what I did at the April 15 Tea Party, but this time with about ten more bodies and signs instead of just me. If I get no volunteers I’ll just do it again myself. By the way, the link on the Maricopa County web site to the County Recorder’s web site is broken, so if you need to send a potential conservative precinct committeeman recruit to the Recorder’s web site to find their legislative district, don’t send them to either the County web site or the County GOP site, which also links to the broken County web site. Rather, send them directly to the County Recorder’s web site: www.recorder.maricopa.gov. I spoke with the County yesterday and advised them of their broken web site link.
Thanks.
I am only one conservative. But I am a conservative Republican Party precinct committeeman and recruiting more every way I can think of.
So there.
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Heh...the conspiricist in me can't help but wonder of the site is down by design...nt
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 4:23PM EST (link)Actually, I used the "Contact" form on the GOP website.
mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, June 11th at 12:09AM EST (link)And they only took two days to get back to me. Which, I better note, I think is excellent timing.
The Democrat leadership are traitors.
Tbone (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 1:54AM EST (link)They engage in acts of treason and call it governance.
There is only one lower form of life in this Country and that is the media members who provide them cover.
Any Republican who utters the word bi-partisan should have his tongue ripped out by its root.
When the pendulum of power swings back, which it will, I hope that we have leaders who are absolutely ruthless and relentless in ridding this nation of the pox that is upon it.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
It's not just the leadership Tbone. It's the gophers even more so.
mbecker908 (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 2:10AM EST (link)I would specifically point to the Blue Dogs. They really have no power. They say they are opposed to lots of Obama’s agenda, but Miss Nancy will force enough of them to vote on it so that it will pass. Every jot and tittle. If anything they are worse than the Nancys and Murthas Legislation of a kind that they say they would support will never reach the floor of the House. They are powerless to amend the leaders bills. And they march in lockstep. Well, enough of them do so that some get cover on various issues but the bills pass.
Were this the analogy of the French Revolution, the first people I would lead to Dr. Guillotin’s maiden would be David Boren and utterly gutless and hypocritical compatriots.
And Republicans running against Blue Dogs
The_Gadfly (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 5:03AM EST (link)need to drive that point home with every appearance they make. It doesn’t matter what they say, what matters is how they vote, and usually on the procedural stuff, not the final bills. If those votes don’t reflect your values, it doesn’t matter if he is a nice* guy personally or even honest*. If the outcomes of him being there don’t match your values, he’s gotta go.
*yeah, I know these are the impossible hypotheticals, but for the sake of argument, let them stand. The conclusion holds even if the impossible is assumed in favor of the accused.
Let's not forget the Vichy Republicans who enable the Dems and cancel out the few blue dogs who vote on principle...nt
AceInTX (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 12:43PM EST (link)As long as they're not in leadership or policy making positions
mbecker908 (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 7:39PM EST (link)I don’t have a problem with people like the ME Girls. They’ve only hurt us once and I doubt they’d have done that if it hadn’t been for Specter. If solid people are in leadership, we can win at legislation. But it takes people with spine, like someone should have hauled Voinavich aside and explained that the loss of his committee assignments would result if he voted against John Bolton. Voinavich is a gutless wonder and would have fallen into line so fast his hair would have fallen off. But we passed two terms of GWB without a single leader raising his hand ANYWHERE in the party.
I would agree if that were happening...but it's not!
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 11:50AM EST (link)We need whips that enforce party discipline as Art has said over and over…and it’s just not happening!
The "Blue Dogs" are lap dogs
Marcus_Traianus (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 10:41AM EST (link)just accouterments and part of the theater. A mere distraction on the way Obama and Nancy’s new Socialist States of America.
We hear abundantly about how they prevented “this or that” from happening. Oh, they will really be a tempering force. What nonsense; when have they every really taken a consistent stand on issues that matter?
“Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object—the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good. One side believes it best done by one composition of the governing powers; the other, by a different one. One fears most the ignorance of the people; the other, the selfishness of rulers independent of them. Which is right, time and experience will prove.”.Thomas Jefferson
As you have pointed out many times, becker, there are no "moderate" let alone "conservative" Dems---
spainishirish (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 7:43AM EST (link)only good liars and actors. In actions, the “Blue Dog” is the unicorn of American politics. They should be challenged everywhere they are found, and reduced to the numerical level of unicorns. The districts where Blue Dogs roam have seethed over the economic insanity of the last three months and it will get worse.
Expanding on the unicorn analogy
civil truth (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 1:19PM EST (link)Unicorns can only exist where there are receptive virgins. Of course, since the number of virgins progressively gets reduced one-by-one, unicorns can only continue to prosper if they can maintain a fresh supply of virgins.
So what this means is that we can’t rely on voters in the Blue Dogs’ districts to decide after the fact that they’d been seduced by lies and to turn against them; rather we need to cut off their supply of new political virgins. Which means, for starters, exposing the history of the Blue Dogs’ past exploits and running good candidates with better ideas who are effective communicators.
The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis
http://www.gmsplace.com/
And as Art says,
itrytobenice (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 11:04AM EST (link)we need some Attorney Generals who aren’t afraid to take them on.
Proper grammar saves lives.
Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.
From this enemy to
LibRick (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 12:57PM EST (link)my worthy adversary. I enjoyed and agree with the premise of your diary. If it’s a war, and politics is, appeasement does not work. Never has.
I also like that you gave Art some props. His view, though not always popular here, really enriches this site.
Actually, the only people who take shots at Art
mbecker908 (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 9:54PM EST (link)are the one eyed Palinbots (a small but vocal group) who couldn’t deal with reality if their lives depended on it and one guy from AK who I think Art fired a long time ago and he’s still not gotten over it. He’s actually pretty well recognized as one of the wisest “operators” here, he’s one of the few of us whose actually done stuff in the political arena.
I don’t consider “you” to be the enemy. I reserve that for elected members of the Democratic Party. We consider you to be a “soon-to-be-former-Democrat”.
Not so...
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 12:11PM EST (link)Art and I have exchanged barbs in the past…but it’s never been personal for me…and I’m not a Palin Bot…I support her but am open to hearing about her faults and value Art’s perspective on that issue.
I don’t think it’s possible for any person involved in intelectual, principled, and political pursuits to not rub each other the wrong way some times…I know you and I have squared off a time or two…
I can’t really say why I replied to you here other than to say it’s wrong to marginalize anyone with strong opinions as one eyed anything…I was labeled as such as a Huck supporter in my early days at RS. And I think I’ve become fairly well respected around here since…though I still rub people the wrong way because I refuse to give my party who is supposed to be the opposition but are not a pass on their weak kneed and Lilly Livered appeasement of the Marxist/Leninist Democrats
I don't include you in the above because
mbecker908 (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 1:27PM EST (link)all of the barbs I’ve seen between the two of you are like the “warfare” you and I engaged in over Huckabee. It was all issue related, it wasn’t personal. Damn near everybody who shoots at Art makes it personal and ignores the issues he brings up because he’s obviously and painfully (for them) right.
I respected you when you argued for Huck. You were one of the very few who actually was willing to discuss issues and do it with an open mind.
I agree...everyone has a blind spot or two...myself included. nt
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 4:03PM EST (link)No Ace.
mbecker908 (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 10:41PM EST (link)Franz has no blind spots.
LOL...Franz is a special case to be sure...nt
AceInTX (Diary) Friday, June 12th at 8:40AM EST (link)winning back the media is very important
Common_Cents (Diary) Tuesday, June 9th at 3:56PM EST (link)We have to do a better job winning over/controlling the message in the media. They are useful idiots to the DEMS.
We have to end the love affair they have with Nobama.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/bronstein/detail?entry_id=41380
Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from,
behind, the Back Nine.Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.
It's certainly "War"...
furious (Diary) Wednesday, June 10th at 2:31PM EST (link)…on the Palins’ children.
–furious
“I find your lack of faith disturbing.” — Darth Vader
Compared to what these
mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, June 11th at 12:13AM EST (link)bastards are doing to our Country, the Palins and their children are getting off scott free.