The Sunday Morning Talk Shows: The Review


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On FNS, Karl Rove shewed his new electoral map: 317 for Obama, 157 for McCain. He has Ohio, Indiana, Colorado, and Virginia turning blue on the 4th.

Next on FNS, Virginia Governor Time Kaine said that he does not think McCain can win the Presidency if he loses Virginia. Early on the evening of the 4th, if we note that McCain has lost Mountain State, we know the election is Obama’s.

On TW, Lindsey Graham attacked Obama and Rahm Emanuel offered that he does not want to be Obama’s chief of staff.

Next up, former GE boss Jack Welch said that there is an economic light at the end of the economic tunnel, and that things should begin to get better by the end of 2009.

Tom Brokaw’s interview of John McCain on MTP could not by any stretch be characterized as hostile, or even spirited, but the Tomster spent much of the interview trying to trick McCain into endorsing socialism and thus Obama.

On FTN, Bob Rubin declared that we will emerge from the current financial crisis because of the “power of public policy.” Government will save us. Douglas Holtz-Eakin talked of getting the bad “mortgages off of people’s backs” so they could themselves stimulate the economy.

Next on FTN, Tim Pawlenty, asked about Tom Ridge’s insistence that McCain should have selected him as veep, pointed out that Sarah Palin’s appeal transcends a single State. Ed Rendell said that he doesn’t believe that Obama has a ten point lead in Pennsylvania and he needs Obama to get to the Commonwealth quickly. Rendell jokingly threatened to begin charging Sarah Palin the State income tax, as she spends a lot of time here.

On LE, Jon Kyl pointed out hiking jacking taxes on corporations, like Obama seeks to do, will drive them out of the country. Evan Bayh complained about the deficit, claiming that if we had a surplus, Obama would cut taxes for everyone.

Next on LE, pushing his plan to have the government purchased “bad mortgages,” John McCain compared homeowners to “innocent bystanders” in a “drive-by shooting.”


ROVE ON FNS. Leading off this week’s FOX News Sunday, host Chris Wallace spoke to Karl Rove, who had his latest edition of the Rove Electoral Map: 317 for Obama, 157 for McCain. He sees Ohio, Indiana, Colorado, and Virginia all turning blue this year.

McCain can pull it out, he predicts, if he can convince the public that he’s right on the issues while Obama is wrong, and that he is the only one with enough experience for the job. Then, if he can pull it close, McCain has to count on his “ground game.”

Rove is disgusted by the treatment of Sarah Palin by the media, and he reacted to the rumors of dissension in the Palin ranks as staffers throwing in the towel. He said that McCain and Palin have not done this.

KAINE ON FNS. Next up, Wallace talked to Virginia Governor Tim Kaine for the Obama campaign. (Tom Ridge was supposed to be there for McCain, but he wasn’t. (Though he has backed off from his remarks and has been campaigning for McCain in Pennsylvania, perhaps the pro-abortion Ridge’s sour grapes have pulled him from the national stage.)

Wallace displayed the RCP average of polls which shows Obama leading in Virginia, 52% to 45%. Kaine said that the Democrats are the underdogs no matter what the polls say, but he sees Obama in Virginia with advantages in poll numbers, energy, and organization.

Kaine said that he can see a path to victory for Obama if he loses Virginia; for McCain, not so much. McCain, he said, has to win Virginia, which could be decided early in the evening. Kaine, then, sees a short night on the 4th.

Asked about the crisis which Joe Biden predicted for a young Obama Administration, Kaine argued that “there will be major tests on inauguration day” for any President. Wallace pointed out that Biden was referring specifically to Obama, and Kaine argued that Obama has the right judgment to get the economy back on track.

Wallace asked if “race” were a hidden factor in this race, and Kaine does not think so. He said that he hopes this country has grown out of that by now; after all, he said, Virginia elected Doug Wilder, who is black. He said that the matter of race was still out there in spots, but “it’s a very minor factor.”

GRAHAM AND EMANUEL ON TW. First up on ABC’s This Week with George Stephanopoulos were Lindsey Graham and Rahm Emanuel. Graham argued that Obama wants to create new taxes on the job creators and erect protectionist walls much like those of Herbert Hoover. Rahm argued that the Dems want to cut taxes.

Arguing about governor Palin, Graham pointed out the she has energized the GOP and adds independent voters. Palin, he said, has in Alaska done what McCain wants to do in Washington, and that is remove the ossified structures of corruption both on the other side of the aisle and within their own party. On Biden predicted doom on Day One for Obama, Rahm explained that he’d worked with a President and knows that a President will be “challenged every day, 24-7.”

Rahm called McCain “impulsive and erratic,” citing both his reaction to the economic crisis and his selection of Sarah Palin to be his running mate; Obama, he declared, had a “spine of steel.” Graham pointed out that Obama is still taking his “surge hasn’t word” lines from MoveOn.org, whom he’s afraid to anger.

Rahm asked: “Which candidate represents change and which represents more of the same?”

Wallace asked, and Rahm said that he wants to keep representing the north side of Chicago, not serve as Obama’s chief of staff.

JACK WELCH ON TW. Next up on TW was former GE boss Jack Welch. Welch said that our highly leveraged world was now de-leveraging, and “we are going to have some very tough times.” He sees a light at the end of the tunnel, and he said we should start to emerge by late next year.

JOHN MCCAIN ON MTP. On NBC’s Meet the Press, moderator Tom Brokaw sat down with John McCain. Brokaw said that this was a live interview from Waterloo, Iowa. The two exchange pleasantries then Brokaw pulled out the latest NBC News/Mason-Dixon poll, showing Obama with an eleven point lead in Iowa, 51-40. Brokaw asked him if he felt more like Kevin Costner in Field of Dreams or George Clooney in A Perfect Storm? (Yes, that was his first question.) McCain answered that he feels like “Knute Rockne at halftime when he said we’ll go out there and get one for the Gipper” [Knute Rockne All American (1940)]. He said that the polls show him further behind than he actually is, and this depends on turnout. He predicted that “we’ll be up very late on election night.”

Brokaw asked McCain about his relationship with President Bush. McCain pointed out that he has been saying for the past eight years that spending has been out of control; that he fought against the “failed strategy in Iraq”; that he’s supported actions to fight “climate change.” He said that he understands shows like MTP having to use brief clips of comments, but he stressed that he is “not George Bush.” He reminded us that he “was not popular within my own party.” (He mentioned BCRA and working on immigration with Teddy Kennedy.) He said he likes and respects President Bush but that he has been telling him that “we’re on the wrong track” for years.

Brokaw pointed out that McCain talks about Obama’s lack of experience then showed an NBC/WSJ poll which showed that those surveyed like Obama on every issue they polled except Iraq. McCain said that he disagrees with the poll; there are others which show him faring much better.

Brokaw pointed out that such economic experts as Paul Volcker, Robert Rubin, and Christopher Buckley (!) endorse Obama and his economic policies. McCain countered that Obama’s record is his own, not Rubin’s or anyone else’s: “He has started out in the left hand lane of American politics and has remained there.” The most liberal United States Senator, just ahead of Bernie Sanders.

Brokaw asked him about the government buying the shares in banks and his own “bad mortgage” buying program: Isn’t that rewarding people who have done the wrong thing? McCain explained that we are in a financial crisis. The role of a government, McCain said, “is to intervene when a nation is in crisis.” (In fairness here, Brokaw’s trick was to counter the contention that Obama has socialist tendencies by describing the reaction to the recent crisis as McCain’s own socialism.) McCain argued that his plan for purchasing mortgages would allow a turnaround.

“You have to have different roles of government in different times.”

He described himself as a “strong conservative” and argued that at times like these, government has to help.

McCain argued that in the Great Depression, some of the things government did worked and some didn’t. The government, he argued, could not sit back on do nothing.

Brokaw argued that if we don’t give them another $15-billion, the U.S. automotive industry will cease to be. McCain argued that we should give them the $25-billion already promised to them first.

Brokaw accused McCain of defending Sarah Palin. McCain shot back: “I don’t defend her. I praise her. She needs no defense.” So Brokaw displayed another poll. Brokaw asked about the RNC buying her wardrobe. McCain said that she’s lived a frugal life and she and her family are not wealthy. Americans now care about staying in their homes, their jobs, and their health insurance. “She is a role model for millions of Americans.”

Brokaw read from the Arizona Republic’s endorsement of John McCain, published today, and read from the Associated Press account of John McCain being shot down over North Vietnam 41-years-ago today. To my surprise, Brokaw did not retrieve an NBC News/Mason-Dixon poll describing this is something or the other.

RUBIN AND HOLTZ-EAKIN ON FTN. On CBS’ Face the Nation, host Bob Schieffer talked to two economic surrogates: Bob Rubin for Obama and Douglas Holtz-Eakin for McCain. Starting with Rubin, Schieffer asked about the bailout plan so far not doing what was promised. Rubin argued that the credit market has been recovering but that we need to do more. He thinks it “imperative” that we have another huge stimulus package and we should fix the foreclosure problem. All in all, RUBIN said, give it time. We will be saved by “the power of public policy.” (The government.) Rubin advocates Obama’s tax rebates and thinks the government can stem the “crisis of confidence” if government acts. He thinks “it can be stemmed in a matter of months.”

Schieffer then switched to Douglas Holtz-Eakin. Holtz-Eakin asked where we place our faith, Washington and Wall Street, which have failed us, or in small business. He said McCain wants to help small businesses and homeowners, adding that “getting mortgages off people’s backs” would be the greatest stimulus off all. Schieffer talked about unemployment at 6% with some saying it will rise as high as 10%. Holtz-Eakin said that McCain could most quickly create jobs with real, comprehensive policies. He said that Rubin had mentioned the credit markets loosening, which Holtz-Eakin said that this was positive. Holtz-Eakin hopes that “by this time next year,” he and Schieffer can talk about the recovery.

PAWLENTY AND RENDELL ON FTN. Schieffer then talked quickie politics with Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty (for McCain) and Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell (for Hillary Obama). Schieffer asked Ed why he was nervous when Obama had a ten point lead in PA. Ed said that he doesn’t believe the polls and he needs Obama and Biden in Pennsylvania. Ed joked that he’d have to start charging Governor Palin the confiscatory State income tax, she’s been here so long. He described the excitement generated by Obama as “off the charts.”

Turning to Tim Pawlenty, Schieffer questioned the Palin choice, citing Tom Ridge’s sour grapes. Pawlenty argued that Palin “has brought a lot of strength to the ticket,” pointing out that her appeal “transcends any one State.” Schieffer accused McCain of “trying to run against his own party,” and Pawlenty said that McCain has been pointing out that he is “not just a continuation of President Bush’s term.”

KYL AND BAYH ON LE. On CNN’s Late Edition, host Wolf Blitzer opened by playing a clip of Barack Obama claiming that John McCain wants to cut taxes on corporations, accepted it as truth, and asked Senator Jon Kyl if he thought we should cut taxes on corporations. Kyl pointed out that McCain wanted to cut taxes on small business, and that high corporate taxes make corporations flee.

Senator Evan Bayh said that Obama wants to cut taxes on individuals. He said that John McCain wants to continue the policies of Bush when “the American people want change.”

Blitzer argued that tax cuts were wrong in an “economic crisis.” Kyl said that Obama’s tax increase on the wealthy would create the largest debt In this country’s history. We have to keep the tax rates, he argued, “right where they are.”

Blitzer played a clip of McCain making the same argument as had Kyl, and Bayh argued that Obama’s tax plan would be the best for the deficit. He said that if we had a surplus, Obama would cut taxes for everyone.

Bayh argued that McCain had to embrace the Bush policies to win the Republican nomination. Kyl said that no George Bush policy caused the current crisis, as it was caused by Congress and the Democrats’ treatments of Fannie and Freddie.

MCCAIN ON LE. Wolf Blitzer interviews John McCain about the economy last week and aired part of it this morning on LE. McCain talked about how we wouldn’t be discussing this crisis if Congress had done what he proposed and regulated Fannie and Freddie.

McCain compared homeowners to “innocent bystanders” in a “drive-by shooting.” Blitzer asked him if having the government purchase these “bad loans” were not more government intervention in the economy, and McCain said that difficult times require drastic measures. He said that the “first role of government is to help people.”

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I’ve heard the term “uncurious” thrown around a lot in the past month, even more in the subsequent seven years, and those using it often seem not to understand its meaning in a thoughtful context. I can say this, however: the absence of what is not asked often leads those who substitute wildness for curiosity to construct parallel universes in which the “truth” is directly related to so much that just isn’t so.

Forgive me. It has been a long morning.


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McCain on MTP

jazzycmk (Diary) Sunday, October 26th at 12:29PM EST (link)

I thought he was pretty strong.

Unfortunately, the part that will probably get replayed the most is when he said he had been endorsed by 5 former secretaries of states and then tried to name them. Had trouble remembering the fifth.

Now that happens to all of us when trying to remember a list, but you know how this will be portrayed.

Also found it curious that Brokaw asked no questions about Biden and his “crisis” comments, but managed to work in Palin’s wardrobe. Sheesh.

jcmk

“90% of people don’t care about your problems…..and the other 10% are glad you have them” – former football coach Lou Holtz

After Brokaw had graciously moved on,

Mark Kilmer (Diary) Sunday, October 26th at 12:46PM EST (link)

McCain was still thinking, in the back of his mind, of the 5th name.

“George Shultz!” he interjected into the budding new topic. “How could I forget George Shultz?”

It was a quick mental block, and if he couldn’t remember, he would have moved on with Brokaw. (You can be certain that if TimRussert had been alive and hosting, he’d have helpfully added Shultz’s name. The man was a show-off!)

The Shultz moment...

ModRocker86 (Diary) Sunday, October 26th at 1:22PM EST (link)

I’m waiting for someone to cite this as another sign that McCain’s age will not allow him to govern for four years.

“He can’t even remember the name of someone who has endorsed him! He can’t possibly be fit to be President!”

 
 
 

Rove

MAGUY Sunday, October 26th at 1:38PM EST (link)

So should we be discourage that Rove is essentially saying O is going to win? Or can we continue to believe the polls are oversampling Dems and not reflect Indies going for McCain and McCain will do much better than the polls predict and even win? Bush won Indiana by like 20pts so if O is going to take Indiana that is huge. I am not an eeyore just trying to figure out where the race is

He remembered Larry Eagleburger,

Mark Kilmer (Diary) Sunday, October 26th at 2:40PM EST (link)

who was Secretary of State for about a month fifteen years ago.

I'm not giving up hope...

HenryM2 Sunday, October 26th at 3:02PM EST (link)

…on McCain/Palin, but I’m spending every spare moment I have from now until election day volunteering to return Virgil Goode to congress. The way I look at it, if McCain wins, he’ll need every Republican he can get in Congress. If Obama wins, we’ll need every Republican we can get in Congress.

Working to keep Republican reps & senators seems like a good, hopeful way to spend the next week.

...and by the way

HenryM2 Sunday, October 26th at 3:04PM EST (link)

Every voter we convince to go in to pull the lever for a Republican is 90% likely to be a vote for McCain.

damfino.

Mark Kilmer (Diary) Sunday, October 26th at 3:37PM EST (link)

I think we’ll find out what’s what on Election Night, and I agree with Rove: there are too many polls. We don’t know which are good and which aren’t, or how the pollsters use their assumptions to weigh certain groups.

It’s possible that there are some lousy pollsters who will be searching for excuses come November 5th.

No they won't Mark

PaRep (Diary) Sunday, October 26th at 3:44PM EST (link)

Built in excuse Bradley Effect

It'd be more correct to say

I was previously Tlaloc, and I was banned last year. (Diary) Sunday, October 26th at 3:52PM EST (link)

that if the election were held today (which it isn’t, but time is growing short for a turn around), and if Rove’s math is correct (which it wasn’t in 2006, so salt heavily) then Obama would win.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

The Polls are using a faulty model

Berean (Diary) Sunday, October 26th at 4:05PM EST (link)

For the most part the polls are using a faulty model they did not use in 2006 that assumes someone’s party identification flucuates a lot. This is historically not true.

Even in 2006, the party ID of actual voters was consistent with historical norms – what changed was the % of Republicans that voted Democratic was way up. Rove messed up because he seriously underestimated the anger of the GOP base at its congressional representatives.

In this election, McCain’s GOP support was off a bit until he picked Palin. Now it is right about where the GOP presidential candidate normally gets. So really, for us the keys are to reach out to independents but above all GET OUR BASE OUT TO THE POLLS.

Trying each day to spread the Gospel

I would say so McCain/Palin are going on a Bus tour

PaRep (Diary) Sunday, October 26th at 4:22PM EST (link)

of Michigan because of improving Internal polling

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2115881/posts

This is a 527 Bus Tour

DrOldSchool (Diary) Sunday, October 26th at 5:42PM EST (link)

Not officially the campaign… they came through the general area about a week-10 days ago. They once again picked the time I have a class to teach to be somewhat close by, or I’d go.

“Is it a third party we need, or is it a new and revitalized second party, raising a banner of no pale pastels, but bold colors which make it unmistakably clear where we stand on all of the issues troubling the people?”

- Ronald Reagan, 1975 Speech to CPAC

OH O.K. MY bad

PaRep (Diary) Sunday, October 26th at 5:48PM EST (link)
 
 
 

I listened to chuck Todd expounding his

septembergurl (Diary) Sunday, October 26th at 6:07PM EST (link)

electoral map to Brokaw. If I heard him right, he said that Obama would win because he would win Virginia and Colorado.

Chuck went on to say that Obama could lose Pennsylvania and still win because he was picking up CO and VA.

Uh huh. So Obama could lose PA, a blue state, yet he would win two red states?

Chuck went on to state that Obama could win the election without winning Ohio, florida and Pennsylvania.

This seemed like a big admission to me — that Ohio and florida are gone, and that Obama could lose PA as well.

I base my understanding of the campaign by where the candidates are campaigning. Obama? Colorado, check. McCain? Iowa (?) and Ohio. Palin, Florida and North carolina. Biden? no public events, Wilmington DE. Help me out here — is this the third or fourth time that Biden has been pulled off the campaign trail due to his inability to deliver a speech or talk to the media without screwing up? Yet he is touted in the media as a sign of Obama’s great judgment and Palin is a disaster. Really?

This is a very close election, and despite what you are hearing, McCain is going to win. There are only a few states up for grabs — Colorado, New Hampshire, the 2nd ME, possibly Iowa.

Nobama will pick up NM and perhaps Iowa. McCain picks up NH, 2nd ME, and wins. No, McCain is (probably) not going to win Pennsylvania (oh he may win it, but he isn’t going to “win” — Fast Eddie rendell will “find” some votes in Philly) and Nobama is not going to win Virginia.

Like I always say — Obama cannot close the deal.

 

CHUCKY TODD is a Far left wacko who is

PaRep (Diary) Sunday, October 26th at 6:14PM EST (link)

thee Elections Director for NBC whatever that is

He used to run Hotline, Which was also run before by Craig Crawford Of CQ a Wacko Leftist & Vaughn Ververs who is now with CBS who is a Wacko Leftist getting the picture here

Come on, septembergurl

friggin Sunday, October 26th at 6:33PM EST (link)

How do you get that Chuck Todd’s explanation of how Obama could win the election without Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania is some sort of “admission” that Obama will lose those states? Seems especially ridiculous considering Obama’s led in the majority of recent polling in Ohio and Florida, as well as all recent polling in PA. It seems like he was just giving an explanation of how Obama could theoretically win without any of those states.

Also, your assertion of McCain winning NH seems a stretch, considering it’s been over a month since he’s led in any polls there, and quite a few have Obama ahead by double digits. Your assertion that Iowa is “possibly” up for grabs is bold as well, considering it’s been a month and a half since McCain’s even been tied in any poll there; and just about every recent poll has Obama up by double digits.

OH a 16 minute wonder BOY you guys are sure

PaRep (Diary) Sunday, October 26th at 6:37PM EST (link)

worried

You're living in a media generated fantasy land.

Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Sunday, October 26th at 6:44PM EST (link)

Obama is going to lose.

Tim Schieferecke

 
 
 
 

You're too quick PaRep

bigfoot (Diary) Sunday, October 26th at 6:51PM EST (link)

I was gonna try and point out about about Todd Chuck (it’s always fun when someone has two first names.) but you beat me to it.

This guy is a leftwing hack from way back. I am telling ya, these guys are starting to get nervous.

By the way, have Rove’s marbles gotten rattled or something. Indiana going to Obama. Really, I mean he’s off his rocker if he really believes that.

He’s becoming another Morris. They’re are both rudderless boats in a storm. They go where the MSM winds take them. They’re lost.

“To believe in nothing is to believe in everything. To believe in everything is to believe in nothing”

Well you are likely a troll, but...

Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Sunday, October 26th at 7:15PM EST (link)

You can find our analysis of the recent SUSA PA poll here.

I wouldn’t be putting much faith is a poll that is badly flawed in three different dimensions. If I had the inclination I could do the same analysis of NH polls, but I expect I would find similar results.

The truth is that CO, Iowa, PA and NH are toss ups right now. OH, FL, VA, NC, IN, MO, and NV will be going to McCain. NM and WI will go to Obama. All of these states are very close, so these predictions are assuming no further surprises.

Obama must win PA and two of the other tossup states. McCain wins if he takes PA or any two of the other three tossups (might need that 1 EV from Maine with a NH win).

Watch where the campaigns are right now, that tells you where the fight is. Obama keeping Biden off the campaign trail is killing him, since McCain/Palin are covering twice as much ground as he can, and a Palin rally is as big a deal as a McCain rally. He also lost FL when he threw the temper tantrum with the Orlando TV station. All the swing voters are in the Orlando corridor and he can’t win here without those votes.

“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy

Dave Michael Barone said

PaRep (Diary) Sunday, October 26th at 7:30PM EST (link)

the only section Obama is Winning is the Gold Coast, He is losing every other area

You can't win with only the Gold Coast

Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Sunday, October 26th at 7:47PM EST (link)

Florida is now gone for Obama, he is going dark, and the only ads now are McCain ads.

Obama spent something like $50M trying to win Florida, and it is money all flushed down the drain.

The demographics for the state are Panhandle is Red (with a little Blue around Tallahassee), Jacksonville is Red, Space Coast is Red, Naples area is Red, Miami and Gold Coast is Blue. The swing areas are the I-4 corridor running across the state from Tampa, through Orlando, to Daytona. To win Florida, you have to win the swing districts in the center of the state. The other areas balance out.

If Obama can’t get the majority of the votes in the center of the state, he can’t win the state. That is why he has gone dark. He rolled the dice, spent a fortune here, and came up snake eyes.

“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy

Typical DUMB Liberal spending money Foolishly

PaRep (Diary) Sunday, October 26th at 8:04PM EST (link)
 
 
 
 

O leaving Florida

MAGUY Sunday, October 26th at 8:06PM EST (link)

Dave in FL – if true (O going dark in FL) this should be blasted from the rooftops to show that the MSM’s Obama landslide meme is garbage. Remember how much press CNN put into saying McCain was quitting CO, NH, IA, and other places to give the impression that McCain was quitting?

Huh

friggin Sunday, October 26th at 8:10PM EST (link)

Is there any polling or evidence at all to support your assertion that “OH, FL, VA, NC, IN, MO, and NV will be going to McCain?”

Morris, Rove, Brooks, Etc.

Strelnikov (Diary) Sunday, October 26th at 8:16PM EST (link)

They all want to be seen as prescient, because they are selling their articles/books/interviews as containing prescience.

The best way to be prescient is to predict everything in the subjunctive: then your editor can quote you after the fact for a jacket blurb, and – ta da! -you really ARE prescient!

As of November 4, 2008, the Code Words will be: “Klaatu – Borada – Nikto!”

 
 
 

Rendell: typical liberal political response to Palin's visits

GregInFla (Diary) Sunday, October 26th at 8:25PM EST (link)

From this dairy:

Ed joked that he’d have to start charging Governor Palin the confiscatory State income tax, she’s been here so long.

Once again, taxing the people that provide the economy is the liberal response. Rendell should be thanking the McCain Palin campaign for spreading the wealth around in Pennsylvania and generating economic activity in his state.


– A true evolutionist would let endangered species die off. Think about it.
– The sign outside the courthouse said no signs allowed. So I took it down.
– Atlas Shrugged is now on the non-fiction aisle at Amazon.

 

state nicknames

GLV Sunday, October 26th at 8:34PM EST (link)

“…he does not think McCain can win the Presidency if he loses Virginia. Early on the evening of the 4th, if we note that McCain has lost Mountain State, we know the election is Obama’s.”

The Mountain State is WEST Virginia. Virginia is the Old Dominion. As a native Mountaineer I couldn’t let that go unchallenged.

Florida is big military state too

GregInFla (Diary) Sunday, October 26th at 8:43PM EST (link)

Polls say military folks favor McCain. All the navy and air force bases here in Florida mean a lot of votes for McCain (if the Dems let the overseas absentee ballots be counted, that is.)


– A true evolutionist would let endangered species die off. Think about it.
– The sign outside the courthouse said no signs allowed. So I took it down.
– Atlas Shrugged is now on the non-fiction aisle at Amazon.

Yes, there is:

septembergurl (Diary) Sunday, October 26th at 8:59PM EST (link)

NC: Rasmussen 10/23 O 48 M 50 McC+2

MO: Mason-Dixon 10/23 O 45 Mc 46 Mc+1, same result in Suffolk poll

FL: Rasmussen & Mason-Dixon both have Mc +1

OH: rasmussen Mc 49 O 47 Mason Dixon Mc46 O45

NV: I have not seen polls since 10/16

CO: Genuinely up for grabs & one Obama could win (I said that above)

VA: Looking for some new polls on this one as well.

But what about...

friggin Sunday, October 26th at 9:27PM EST (link)

NC:
Public Policy Polling 10/19 O 51 M 44
CNN 10/20 O 51 M 46
SurveyUSA 10/19 O47 M 47

VA:
Survey USA 10/19 O 51 M 45
Public Policy Polling 10/22 O 52 M 43
Rasmussen 10/16 O 54 M 44
Mason-Dixon 10/21 O 47 M 45

Are just a couple of examples. For many more, check out the right sidebar of fivethirtyeight.com. I’m not saying McCain won’t win these states, I’m just saying that it’s pretty bold for someone to come out and say definitively that he WILL win these states.

Hey FLEA BRAIN look at the Internals if you are intelligent to know

PaRep (Diary) Sunday, October 26th at 9:32PM EST (link)

what that is & the Political Weightings if your IQ is significantly higher than Nicks

What about them?

Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Tuesday, October 28th at 7:14AM EST (link)

Tell you what, why don’t you bother to actually read the analysis I did on the SUSA PA poll, then apply the same level of critical thinking before throwing out a bunch of polls that are posted on sites the work from “poll averages”.

Even Jay Cost has noticed that someone is going to be wrong, because the polling variations this year are outside of the standard deviation. Polling averages are by definition going to be wrong, because we don’t have outliers on both sides of the deviations.

The only way the polls are right this year is if Democrats have a historic turnout differential against Republicans. And betting on things that have never happened before is generally not a smart strategy.

“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy