McCain is entertained by “leading conservatives” who trash Palin


It's my attitude, as well. They're better than the circus.

Finding a Politico.com story via Google News, we learn of John McCain’s “amazement” at the way Sarah Palin is being treated by some conservatives.

Several leading conservatives, including columnists Kathleen Parker of National Review and David Brooks of the New York Times, have questioned McCain’s judgment in selecting Palin. [emphasis my own]

Leading conservatives: Kathleen Parker and David Brooks? That’s a bit o’ hyperbole, as I’m still not 100% certain who is Kathleen Parker, and I was not aware David Brooks could be considered a conservative by a conservative.

McCain dismissed their criticisms and credited Palin for energizing the conservative base in a year in which the GOP faces “a stiff headwind.”

“She has ignited our crowds,” McCain said. “She has a wonderful family, a great husband, great values and she shares my worldview.”

“I’m entertained at the elitist attitude towards a person who is proven leader.”

I am with our candidate: entertained. It is amusing that certain people with a misplaced sense of elitism can verbally attack a conservative Vice Presidential candidate in the middle of what could be a very close election, essentially because they do not like the cut of her jib.

Are these people seeking meaningless language which the speaker uses to fool the unsuspecting oaf into believing that a high-minded principle is being discussed? The politics of meaning, by jove, it takes a village? Does that suffice in the place of sanity? Obama/Biden?

Here’s our nominee with a question for those who offer the pretense that Joe Biden is more qualified to be President than is Sarah Palin:

“I’m amazed. I’m amazed. Which is better? Serve 35 years in the United States Senate and say you’ve got to divide Iraq into three different countries, or be governor of a state and a reformer and give people their tax dollars back and bring about reform in the way that your state does business? Which is better?”

What do we want in government? A conservative, by definition, seeks less government and lower taxes. Sarah Palin speaks of… what?

To these people, the President (Reagan) was a myth. “Once upon a time, there was a giant with a magic wand…” Folks, it was not that way. The President sometimes said dumb things. The President sometimes made bad choices. But remember this: The President always kept his eyes on the prize, reflected in conservatism. And during the 1980s, the pride and the prize is in the work we did. Americans knew what they were doing, where they were going, and why.

Obama/Biden? Not so much.

Where is the sophistry in Sarah Palin? I’ve never heard a sophism escape her lips. Obama/Biden? Mercy.

When John McCain selected Sarah Palin to be his running mate, he put himself into this race. Without her, the campaign would have lacked volunteers, yards with signs, letter writers, even jazzed bloggers. It would have lacked the excitement it now exudes.

If something were to happen to John McCain on Day One, and Palin ascended to the highest office in the land, I assume she’d have advisors around her who would be more qualified than Obama’s on whom she might have to lean almost as much as Obama would need his peeps to tell him what to do. She’d get advice, she’d make decisions. I trust her judgment. I trust John McCain’s judgment.

Obama/Biden? Not so much.

I cannot assigne motives or read minds. That’s entertainment.


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I have something I want to say...

liberalrepublican (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 7:21PM EST (link)

But I’m going to wait until after the election.

“Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. … including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy”

 

Darn (for a better word), I am getting a bit

dbecraft Thursday, October 23rd at 7:24PM EST (link)

fed up with “our” so called Conservatives giving us their lip!

From the National Republic to our lovely Peggy Noonan, they all seem to have gone nuts! Or as I actually suspect, starting to kiss a@@ of those that they think will be in power.

I say throw all of them out of any party, especially the Republican Conservative party. I’m very tired of these so-called conservatives spreading their venom. Thanks for letting me vent!

Formally known as Deagle… “Golf is a way of life…”

 

For weeks I have had an outlined, line by line evisceration of a Brooks' column on the GOP

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 7:52PM EST (link)

coming soon

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

Well, I expected you to have something to

Mark Kilmer (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 7:53PM EST (link)

to say, and wait if you think it best, but you’ve piqued my curiosity.

I'm not touching Peggy. Her soul is

Mark Kilmer (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 7:58PM EST (link)

indeed conservative, and I wish I knew what were on her mind with this. You know, I can say it is an innate mistrust of McCain, but damfino.

The rest, it’s obvious that they do not want to be a part of the movement, so there is nothing we can say or do to ostracize them from it. They’ve got their own turf.

I look forward to seeing it,

Mark Kilmer (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 8:02PM EST (link)

gamecock, but does his column merit that?

I can see where

JakePrime (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 8:13PM EST (link)

David Brooks comes from, Palin’s early interviews were awful, but he is a columnist for the NYT after all. I don’t think “leading conservative” and “New York Times columnist” really belong in the same sentence.

Merit an evisceration is an oxymoron isn't it?

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 8:25PM EST (link)

Mark, your column here is awesome. Could I add some thoughts? Yes, and I will.

But the reason Brooks’ column from many weeks ago “merits” a line by line critique is because it is so wrong, so often, and (and this is personal) because it is written by a man I respect that has unique insights but has gone astray.

I have been a ditto head since 1993, when I was dem thru 2000. Rush has often quoted Brooks favorably. The man is a genius, but is also disabled by his geographic location inside the beltway.

The main reason I feel the need to dissect his attack on Reagan’s GOP though, is because he represents a group of inside the beltway cons that project their anger and disdain against social conservatives and allege that social conservatives are angry and divisive.

more later

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

 
 
 
 
 
 

David Brooks---what a joke

JSHPMN Thursday, October 23rd at 8:25PM EST (link)

Brooks is a stooge! Lord, this boy wouldn’t know conservative if someone smacked him. Hell, he works for the NYT like Kristol (who isn’t conservative either). Don’t take these people seriously when they’re not serious. Both “commentators” are laughable.

 

They can take a hike!

lonebeagle Thursday, October 23rd at 8:35PM EST (link)

Who cares what “leading conservatives” think! All of these elite idiots are the same folks who hated Reagan. To them Reagan was just a simple-minded cowboy “B” movie actor who went to a mediocre college.

These “leading conservatives” hate Sarah Palin for the same reasons that ALL of the liberals hate her–Governor Palin represents the average American.

They say, “We can’t have average Americans running the country!”

Well they can all go to hell.

Sarah Palin has got to her place in life without being born with a silver spoon in her mouth or having a patron (or sugar daddy) or slick backroom political machine sponsoring her political career.

I fear that if we lose this election our freedoms will begin to be stripped away by the tyranny of the left. Obama and the liberal left have no tolerance for the Sarah Palins of the world.

Look at the attacks they’ve (the press and the liberals) launched against Palin. This is tyranny in action. Americans just might be ignorant enough to elect this hack called Obama.

God help us if McCain-Palin lose.

 

Gotta love the sophisticated, check-pant...

derechista Thursday, October 23rd at 8:42PM EST (link)

…Repub’s. What would we do without them? They are critical to our movement.

Or, should I say, they have helped put our party into critical condition. Take Colin Powell, as an example.

Did Sec. Powell play a role in his deputy, Richard Armitage, allowing the Plame source story to twist in the wind for several months. He may have done so, in an effort to strike back at Pres. Bush for having him go before the UN.

And the sophisticated, liberal Republican Colin Powell doesn’t like Sarah Palin, either? Surprise!!!!!!!!!!!!

I’ll take Joe the Plumber any day over these beholden-to-the-cocktail-party-crowd snobs.

 

Is Palin Conservative?

olderthangandalf Thursday, October 23rd at 8:45PM EST (link)

She’s pro-life and solid on the 2d Amendment.

But what about fiscal conservatism? Don’t see it in the way she ran Wasilla. What about foreign policy conservatism? Not a lot of evidence she ever thought about it for five minutes before she got the nod.

We, as a party, are in massive pain right now because we elected and rallied around a “conservative” who was anything but.

I’m not sure Palin, across the list of issues, is any more of a real conservative than Bush. I’m also far from sure that she won’t get corrupted by DC faster than you can say Saks Fifth Avenue.

I’m am sure that part of the problem we face is due to shutting down dissent in the name of party unity. A little more debate and pushback may have helped keep Congress and the White House on the conservative path.

So, from where I sit, it’s healthy for Brooks, Noonan, etc., to question whether Palin is such a great candidate.

Bill Kristol doesn't work for the NYT.

Mark Kilmer (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 8:49PM EST (link)

He’s got his own gig at The Weekly Standard. You’re probably thinking of Bill’s dad, Irving Kristol, who would probably not be allowed near the Times‘ opinion page today.

I was just talking to a few friends about which conservative columnists seemed to be truly committed conservatives. Interesting.

No he writes for them Mark

PaRep (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 8:51PM EST (link)

Oh that's just rich....

lonebeagle Thursday, October 23rd at 8:52PM EST (link)

You think that it’s great that Brooks, Noonan, etc throw rocks at the Republican Party two weeks before the Presidential Election?!

Would you rather see Obama win?! This isn’t a game. The election has real consequences.

Palin has shown more conservative principles so far in her political campaign than most Republicans that I can think of.

Brooks, Noonan and Powell should be run out of town on a rail. Maybe you should leave with them.

Thanks, we’ll call you….

Do you think it is just Brooks's DC

Mark Kilmer (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 8:52PM EST (link)

home base? Does it affect all beltway columnists?

I’m still considering this question, what effect has the Georgetown cocktail circuit on one’s American conservativism.

Heh...sorry to say that I feel the same...

dbecraft Thursday, October 23rd at 8:54PM EST (link)

rail, out of town…etc…

Formally known as Deagle… “Golf is a way of life…”

 
 
 
 
 
 

Elitist's are not exclusive to the left...

SouthernCross Thursday, October 23rd at 8:57PM EST (link)

We have em too….

Gov. Palin will come into her own politically soon enough. She only needs more seasoning on the national and international stage. She has the intelligence and principles already ingrained in her makeup.

 

With friends like these....

fisk2521 Thursday, October 23rd at 8:58PM EST (link)

I don’t really have inside information on who *the people in the know *are in the Republican party, so I was surprised to see Neal Cavuto interviewing President Dwight D. Eisenhower’s granddaughter on his show today. She was supporting Obama – - giving the reason McCain’s VP choice – - Sara Palin.

I love Sara Palin….. I think she is terrific. She lives by her convictions, and isn’t afraid to say what she believes…unlike a lot of people today.

I do not know why I should give a rat’s behind about what Eisenhower’s Granddaughter thinks. I’m sure she has money (that her Grandfather left her) and maybe that and her Grandfather’s reputation give her clout with the Republican Party. But as far as I’m concerned good riddance. If she backs Obama then she was never a Republican anyway…just like Powell…a fraud.

I love my sign in my yard…McCain/Palin.

LDavis

Immigration???

BlueLandRed (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 8:59PM EST (link)

So I haven’t verified that this is legit… so buyer beware (and my apologizes if it isn’t)… but it doesn’t seem like Sarah is all that conservative when it comes to immigration.

Univision: To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?
Palin: I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.

Rest of the interview

Univision

It is who you associate with...

dbecraft Thursday, October 23rd at 8:59PM EST (link)

that describes who you are. No different than who Obama associated with helped define him. You tend to believe as your friends do and after a long enough association, you either become like them or you lose them. That does mean that even conservatives who associate with liberal elites (normal in the news business) will become more liberal.

Formally known as Deagle… “Golf is a way of life…”

Mark, my opinion on this

Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 9:02PM EST (link)

The NY/DC conservatives (this includes almost all of those at National Review) are so far inside the media bubble, that they can’t help but believe the spin. This is reinforced by the communities they live in where everyone is a liberal Dem and voting Obama. Since they never leave their cocoon, they assume the rest of the country looks the same.

The result is that they now believe the Obama is going to win, and are positioning themselves to survive in the coming Obama era. Some of them are establishing bonafides by actively criticizing people they supported in the past. Others are just sitting on the sidelines, trying to stay above it all. They are relishing the role of being the sportscaster calling the game, instead of being one of the players on the field trying to win.

I’ll be spending a week with the NR folks the week after the election. I’m going to be really interested to hear what they have to say regarding their role in the results.

“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy

 
 
 
 

Re: fisk2521

SouthernCross Thursday, October 23rd at 9:13PM EST (link)

“so I was surprised to see Neal Cavuto interviewing President Dwight D. Eisenhower’s granddaughter on his show today. She was supporting Obama – - giving the reason McCain’s VP choice – - Sara Palin.”


It really kills me to see so called Republicans and/or conservatives who say they are voting for Obama because of McCains choice of Sarah Palin. This is such a transparent attempt to reconcile their own weakness for celebrity and in some cases assuage the guilt they carry for the wrongs committed by individuals long passed. There is no way that a principled conservative would take such a hard left turn simply because they disagree with a VP choice like Gov. Palin; especially a rock solid conservative like her.

It would be one thing to sit out the vote or go for a third Party candidate/write-in, but to vote completely opposite of what you allegedly stand for? No, like the RINO’s that infest the Republican Party today, they are just liberals looking for their way out of the closet.

 

If Conservatives are incapable of recognizing their own

Michael Schuyler (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 9:17PM EST (link)

what hope is there? Here we have Sarah Palin, who does not have a liberal bone in her body, who walks the talk, and there are Conservatives who claim she is not Conservative enough? I would suggest, then, that no one living will ever, ever, be conservative enough for these folks, and that they will never ever get their way and will die frustrated as a party of one, unloved, mis-understood, and even if they make it to the after-life, totally whacko. Get a clue and get with the program or usher in the United States of Socialist America (not a place I want to live, frankly.)

Those who do not read good books have no advantage over those who cannot read them — Mark Twain

Sarah Palin fiscal conservative

finaljeopardy Thursday, October 23rd at 9:18PM EST (link)

All signs indicate Sarah Palin ran a sound budget as the Mayor of Wasilla, unless you are referring to the sports complex. People keep saying $20 million, though it looks more like $14.5 million. The city went into debt to do it (how did you buy your house, bunkie?) and raised the city sales tax from 2 percent to 2.5 percent to pay for it.

The city is paying it off two years ahead of schedule and is boasting 20 to 50 % increases in office uses offered at the 102,000 sqft facility.

There is an ongoing dispute about title following a struggle with the Nature Conservancy and another buyer. At the time it was built, Wasilla had a Federal judge’s decision that they had title to the land.

Anyway, if Wasilla got a $15 million sports center, and got a mortgage for it, then the city incurred more longterm debt, you bet. It also got a capital asset. You do it with a mortgage; a city does it by setting up bonds and a tax base to service the bonds. Same thing. Whether it was wise or not is another question, but the bonds and tax increase were approved by a special election by the people in Wasilla.

I liked Ike

finaljeopardy Thursday, October 23rd at 9:21PM EST (link)

Ike’s daughter Susan spoke at the Dem convention. It seems she thinks the GOP left her before McCain’s VP was announced. The Dems have her on double duty bashing female candidates as a woman and fluffing Obama’s national security cred as daughter of one of the most well-known generals in this country. As with Chris Buckley, the fruit fell far from the tree.

 
 
 

I am still fairly new to this...

Fallon (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 9:23PM EST (link)

I am not as articulate or passionate as some here at RedState. I don’t have the eloquence or the reputation for well thought out commentary but I do have a unique perspective having changed from Obama to Palin. And, when I say Palin, I mean Palin not McCain.

Now don’t get me wrong, my deprogramming is complete and head to head I would now choose McCain over Obama, but if McCain had chosen an “also ran” Republican, I’d probably be sitting this election out. Palin definitely sparked something in me to change affiliations and get involved.

(It didn’t hurt that the surprise announcement of Palin followed the extremely lackluster and disappointing choice of Biden.) When Governor Palin spoke at the Republican Convention, I thought, finally, someone who is willing to fight back. Yes, her early interviews were lousy but she was never lousy. Her story didn’t change.

The people shouting the loudest that she was a terrible pick were Democrats and the media. Democrats and the media? The other team? Yes. Somehow some of that chatter slithered into the psyches of some of the Republican ideologues and they got cold feet. They started to believe the their brethren press whose objectivity is suspect to say the least. To me, these stalwart “conservative” pundits look weak and easily swayed by those that they consider members of their rank and station.

They gave in to this constant haranguing and bashing but I didn’t give in to it and neither did all those people who came to the rallies to see her. As the press continued to get more and more negative, nasty and brutal, the more we knew Governor Palin was the right choice and the more solidly we were behind her.

This bashing continues with non-stories (like the cost of her wardrobe) because Governor Palin, realistically, is the closest thing to a rock star that the Republicans have. She very well may be the future of the party and the partisan press knows if they do not sufficiently squash her now, she will be back, stronger and more confident than ever. She may even be strong enough to drag an old Navy pilot into the White house.

 

After preaching moderation and promoting the all important Moderates and Independants...

AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 9:24PM EST (link)

to the level of Demigods to be bowed down to, sacrificed to, and pandered to on a colossal scale…Brooks and the tea and crumpets ivory tower crowd are attacking Palin and laying the groundwork to blame her for the disaster they have wrought.

The Meme after this election…if McCain loses this…is that we lost this election because McCain Pandered to the extreme right wing of the Republican Party with his pick of Palin…Historical revisionism will begin on November 5th…the story line will leave out the moderate Cap & Trade crap and the boasting about fighting 70% of the American Public on immigration reform and bragging about the gang of 14 BS…the blame will once again fall on the Conservatives as if we’ve gotten anything from the party for the last 4 to 6 years!

This is a joke…Brooks is a joke who comes from the gang of dupes that include David Gergen, George Will, Tucker Carlson and the rest of the left of center Bow Tie Republicrats the so called objective media love to trot out to pretend they’re fair and balanced and present both sides of the arguement!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson

Must be another feminist who despises women...

dbecraft Thursday, October 23rd at 9:26PM EST (link)

Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young?

Formally known as Deagle… “Golf is a way of life…”

It's not like

JakePrime (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 9:32PM EST (link)

they agree with Obama or that they endorse him. Noonan and Brooks don’t like Palin’s “anti-intellectual” emphasis and think that a more experienced VP pick would have been a better choice. Brooks is a true Buckley protégé, it’s what you would expect.

Anyway, both Noonan and Brooks thought that Palin had a strong debate performance and seem to have dropped most of their criticism that followed her early interviews.

Ike's granddaughter is a liar...

azaeroprof (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 9:38PM EST (link)

if she gave Sarah Palin as her primary reason for backing Obama. If you recall, she was on the Greek column stage giving an endorsement speech for Obama the night before Sarah was named as VP choice.

My guess is the Obama folks have given talking points to EVERY woman celebrity who supports Obama to ensure that they ALL denigrate Sarah publicly. I think it’s a sign that they are very concerned about the effect she is having on this election. I still believe that without her, McCain is 15-20 points behind and never was close, let alone ahead after his convention.

Apparently

JakePrime (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 9:47PM EST (link)

you don’t know where the center is. They are all undeniably right of center writers and pundits, not left of center nor hardcore right. If they were left of center, there wouldn’t be a valid right in America. If you think George Will is voting for Obama, well, I wouldn’t know where you’d be coming from.

 
 
 
 
 

Could McCain Be Waking Up?

democratsarefascists Thursday, October 23rd at 9:50PM EST (link)

All this campaign, he’s passed up every opportunity to name names and show up his enemies as the fascists they are. If he loses, it’ll be because he’s tried to suck up to leftists his entire career.

Did he complain when Obama kidnapped a mentally-challenged man and forced him to vote Obama? Did he shout out when Obama beat up an old woman for the “crime” of holding a McCain sign?
Has he spoken out about the Obama voter fraud? Barely.

Is he getting it? Does he know that the liberals are the enemy and that no matter how much he much he plays nice, they will still hate him, and us?

It’s not just McCain, of course. The GOP has utterly failed to wise up. They’re finding out too late that people want a pretty face. Women, for the most part, vote based on age and looks. Studies confirm that. Minorities, for the most part, DO vote based on color. Nearly all teenagers and spoiled twenty-somethings aren’t smart enough, or aware enough, to vote based on issues. Hollywood tells them how to vote. MTV tells them how to vote. They don’t think for themselves. Protest all you want. It’s true.
The GOP has failed to attack ACORN and other frauds. Now it’s too late. The GOP has failed to adopt new technology. The GOP failed to push Supreme Court nominees through because they feared the media. The GOP failed to protect the Second Amendment sufficiently. The GOP failed to protect free speech like talk radio. And now it’s TOO LATE.

William Ayers has been planning this for three decades. Communists and their public face, Democrats, plan ahead. The GOP is run by old men for old men. If we lose, this is why.

If we win, they need to seize their last chance and protect the Constitution as they have sworn to do, from domestic enemies out to destroy America.

 

The real problem...

bluegoose Thursday, October 23rd at 9:51PM EST (link)

… isn’t her political opinions, it’s her ignorance of what exactly the role of the vice president is. Her appeal to the base is undeniable, but her interviews are scaring away the undecided voters.

Hereditary aristocracy

susanne Thursday, October 23rd at 9:51PM EST (link)

The first Bush was the son of a Connecticut Senator. The second Bush was the son of a PRESIDENT. McCain is the son and grandson of U.S. Admirals. Do you really think Bush would have gotten into Yale, or McCain into Annapolis without affirmative action based on their ancestry? As Obama has stated, he doesn’t think his girls should merit such affirmative action. They should make it on their own. McCain graduated something like fifth from the bottom; Bush was a so-called gentleman C. Obama’s academic career ….well, let’s just say it was “elite.” And he did it by pulling himself up by his own bootstraps. How like the old Republican party.

 
 

"Leading Conservatives"

RedFox84 Thursday, October 23rd at 9:54PM EST (link)

Who are these so-called ‘conservatives’ that I’ve never heard of, and who exactly do they lead?

And, personally, I don’t need to be lead. I’m a conservative and can think on my own, thank you very much.

You joined 20 minutes ago to write this?

Fallon (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:00PM EST (link)

750 words on the duties and role of the VP, bluegoose.

Moe Lane (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:01PM EST (link)

Be sure to concentrate on the original intent of the Founding Fathers, and trace the historical development of the role.

Write it up, send it in, maybe we’ll turn your account back on.

Moe

PS: Don’t ask Joe Biden for help. He couldn’t even get the article right.

George will isn't as bad as Brooks or Carlson...

AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:02PM EST (link)

but aside from some free market tendencies…they are as laft as they are right at a minimum.

Read Brook’s last article on Palin…it’s undeniable what the game is…This election debacle is all the fault of the extreme right wing bigots that make up the base of the Republican Party because they wouldn’t let McCain be like the Democrats…McCain gave the election away by pandering to the extreme right wing by picking the back hills moose shooting hick from Alaska…They are busy right now setting the templates to cover they’re asses after foisting their pandering propeganda about appealing to Moderates and Independants…

Ohh…and I forgot Noonan…the quintessential elitist and Parker whoever she is! They’ve got all the answers…except every time they get their way…and one of theirs is nominated…they lose…but it’s never their fault…its the hicks and rednecks in the Republican Party that caused it all because they refuse to shut up and do what they’re told!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson

Silver Spoons

susanne Thursday, October 23rd at 10:03PM EST (link)

I was merely pointing out that Bush and McCain were born with silver spoons in their mouths. Obama was not.

Silver Spoons

susanne Thursday, October 23rd at 10:03PM EST (link)

I was merely pointing out that Bush and McCain were born with silver spoons in their mouths. Obama was not.

RedFox84 has the BEST answer to the "leading conservatives" I have read around the net....

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:06PM EST (link)

as TRUE CONSERVATIVES we are not lead by anyone! WE hold the liars and thieves in the Republican party to account at great risk to a portion of our beliefs because of the very fact that WE are not SHEEP….and if losing the majority as we did in 06 makes us suffer and we have WE know that the more the Conservative message is given the more it is received.

The majority of Americans are Conservative by nature and when Republicans which is the closest party to Conservatism STRAYS from that message they lose…..WE will not lose this election and that is because Barack Obama is so hardcore left that the swing states will NOT swing that hard left.

The message to Republicans after the win WILL be and SHOULD be that when you “give” up your moral conservative compass you will be out of a job!

Moe, you need to point out

David Hinz (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:10PM EST (link)

to these people how to use the TOOLS function at the top of MicroSoft Word, otherwise the poor guy will go blind and crazy trying to count all the way to 750 without losing his place.

legacy student

finaljeopardy Thursday, October 23rd at 10:11PM EST (link)

Obama’s Kenyan father was a Harvard alumni who wrote a controversial statement of economic policy, titled “African Socialism and Its Applicability to Planning in Kenya.” It is still referenced frequently by liberal economics professors. Obama’s father was politically active and socially connected, too. That was enough to help his son get into Harvard.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

About the Kathleen and David Show, Mark

Marcus_Traianus (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:11PM EST (link)

I wrote this in my blog today.

Breaking News: Another Palin Scandal. Two words, it’s over.

This makes Kathleen Parker look like a sage

Given the lightweight, topical nature of American journalists, I decided to conduct some private research on Sarah Palin. I was concerned and frankly prompted to action by Kathleen Parker and David Brooks recent opines. Their credible, steady support of conservative causes and position as standard bearers are well documented. Yet, Ms. Parker and Mr. Brooks criticisms of Governor Palin have made them subject of considerable ire from Republicans across the political spectrum. I dare say the results of my investigation now find them due a very contrite apology

Read the entire piece for context.

“Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object—the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good. One side believes it best done by one composition of the governing powers; the other, by a different one. One fears most the ignorance of the people; the other, the selfishness of rulers independent of them. Which is right, time and experience will prove.”.Thomas Jefferson

Once again you prove that you are not older

Tbone (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:17PM EST (link)

than stupid.

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

THAT statement is the refuge of liberals and cowards.

mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:17PM EST (link)

But I repeat myself.

Feel free to trash Gov. Palin. You’ve established your credibility here – zip – and you won’t hurt yourself.

 
 
 

Kathleen Parker can kiss my butt,

Tbone (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:21PM EST (link)

Peggy Noonan, no.

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

Academic performance and real accomplishment

mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:26PM EST (link)

are mutually exclusive. Note that Bill Gates didn’t manage to get his bachelors degree. I could cite examples of very accomplished people who’ve managed great success without a degree from anywhere let alone an Ivy. Even easier would be to cite reams of names of people who got degrees (multiple) from “prestigious” institutions and can’t manage more than drooling on themselves. For instance, virtually every holder of a PhD in “Education” for starters.

BO has degrees from Columbia and Harvard. And, short of selling snake oil to the American People, he’s accomplished exactly zero. Hell, he can’t even point to a single piece of legislation that he authored – signing on late in the process doesn’t count – as an elected official. He’s just another corrupt Chicago machine politician. He is, as my dad rightly noted, an “educated idiot”.

 
 

Some older conservative Republicans like Noonan

spainishirish (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:28PM EST (link)

were in the minority so long, and lived among leftists even when their movement was ascendant, that they feel uncomfortable when they are in the majority and/or are competitive. Perhaps it is cocktail circuit syndrome but it resembles Stockholm Syndrome to a larger degree. Neither Reagan nor Bush lived in an environment where they felt compelled to apologize for their beliefs, so they didn’t carry that baggage. If there is any one thing to like about Ann Coulter, she does live in that environment and doesn’t carry the baggage.

Someone recently suggested there be a Good Riddance Watch. Let me second the idea. When someone both thinks the other side is about to win and already feels uncomfortable about their beliefs, it is easy to walk out. It would be wise to see the door stays closed to them forever.

Peggy has been truly disappointing tbone

Marcus_Traianus (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:31PM EST (link)

Her opinions are usually well grounded. But I have been shocked at some of the McCain-Palin superficiality based mostly, it seems, on emotion.

Parker, as I said earlier today, has rabies.

“Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object—the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good. One side believes it best done by one composition of the governing powers; the other, by a different one. One fears most the ignorance of the people; the other, the selfishness of rulers independent of them. Which is right, time and experience will prove.”.Thomas Jefferson

Educated idiots

susanne Thursday, October 23rd at 10:31PM EST (link)

What does your father think about the intellectual accomplishments of Palin and McCain?

Educated idiots

susanne Thursday, October 23rd at 10:31PM EST (link)

What does your father think about the intellectual accomplishments of Palin and McCain?

Dem's and distraction Politics

JLenardDetroit (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:31PM EST (link)

I thought they were supposed to be all about the “Issues?” Since they can’t name one thing Obambam has ever done, they continually resort to distraction.

It’s the “spread the wealth” er… “Economy” STUPID. ;-)

His bluegoose is about to be cooked by the ObamaBinBiden gang, but he can’t see through his ShidasGlasses to see it.

Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”


(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)

Palin's "anti-intellectual" emphasis...

mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:32PM EST (link)

Is exactly what’s endearing her to the base and to the American people. Frankly, I’m sick of “intellectuals” like Brooks, etal. It’s their ideas/ideals that have helped mightily to get the Republican Party into the mess it’s currently in.

Leading defined as reflecting and who were involved in winning

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:32PM EST (link)

Rush

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

Sure mbeck

Marcus_Traianus (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:36PM EST (link)

but you have to agree he sounds really good saying it. That alone has to be worth $50k a year.

I mean really, who ever thought Marxism would be sold in a tailored suit?

“Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object—the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good. One side believes it best done by one composition of the governing powers; the other, by a different one. One fears most the ignorance of the people; the other, the selfishness of rulers independent of them. Which is right, time and experience will prove.”.Thomas Jefferson

Palin is NOT anti-intellectual, anti-snob does not mean anti-intellectual

JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:37PM EST (link)

Besides, since when did connecting with everyday voters mean anti-intellectual?

Was Bill Clinton anti-intellectual?

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

Mark, its not just DC, but it does affect most to differing degrees

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:38PM EST (link)

Part of this is human nature. They must get along with their neighbors. If you will notice, with respect to elected repubs, the ones that get on tv are the ones that will attack fellow repubs and they are also the ones that don’t go home on the weekends.

Sessions hardly ever gets on TV, for example.

Rush addressed this once when he said that he didn’t want to live in DC and be friends with people he needs to criticize.

A problem is TV. esp. If you are a guest driven show, you have to hold back if you want the guest to come back.

more later

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

Obama coasted through higher education

JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:39PM EST (link)

as an aggrieved and entitled black man. Both Barack and Michelle seemed to emphasize their “blackness” as much as possible.

Combined with hardline left stances on issues, and getting A’s was pretty much automatic.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

Really? What's appealing, the Obama message you have to be elitist to be VP?

Marcus_Traianus (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:42PM EST (link)

That theme is playing soo well with all the undecides I know. Between what Obama said to “Joe” and the ads he is running on Palin, Republicans may have to write him a check when this is all over.

“Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object—the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good. One side believes it best done by one composition of the governing powers; the other, by a different one. One fears most the ignorance of the people; the other, the selfishness of rulers independent of them. Which is right, time and experience will prove.”.Thomas Jefferson

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Washington elite has-beens

Hermes (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:45PM EST (link)

Noonan was great back in the 80′s. She’s rapidly becoming the next Arianna Huffington, however.

Brooks, as pointed out several times above, is not now and has never been a conservative.

And who the heck is Kathleen Parker?

Governor Palin is the only non-Washington elitist insider, non-millionaire in this election. Just on those credentials alone she gets my vote.

We're not electing them to lecture at Haaaaaavard

Vegas_Rick (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:47PM EST (link)

We’re electing them to lead and run the country. Both have shown, through their actions in government, that they are fully capable of leading and governing.

Both have sterling records of accomplishment that are there for all fair minded people to see. Unlike a record of working the Chicago machine for personal gain and voting present.

No one doubts your guy is smart. It’s just that much of what he knows just isn’t so. To paraphrase.

“God is great, beer is good and people are crazy.”- Billy Currington

“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.

Spot on, Ace!

Hermes (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:48PM EST (link)

Should this turn against Governor Palin this November, the old country club, Eisenhower Republicans will be all over genuine conservatives like fleas on a dog.

The GOP will become what Dems were back in the 1940′s and 50′s. It is already perilously close to becoming so now. Without legitimate conservatives at the helm, the GOP is a lost cause.

Again, should the old Country Club Reps take over come November, Blue Dog Dems are going to start looking a lot more attractive.

How is it that you think McCain was born with a silver spoon?

Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:50PM EST (link)

That’s a pretty big stretch to call a kid whose Dad was away on military affairs for much of his childhood a silver spoon.

Tim Schieferecke

"Intellectual accomplishments" is an oxymoron.

mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:51PM EST (link)

You’re just a regular moron.

In terms of real accomplishment, however, McCain has managed to author some fairly significant pieces of legislation in the Senate whether you happen to like them or not. He’s actually been the author of things like CFR and the immigration legislation for just two. Both were very controversial, had wide opposition and he not only authored the bills, he put together legislative coalitions to get them passed. One did, one didn’t. That doesn’t take away from his accomplishment in both cases. And BTW, some form of his immigration plan will eventually end up passing the congress.

Gov. Palin, in her two years in office as Governor of AK, has authored the most significant shake-up in any state (or federal) government in the area of ethics ever seen. Add to that the gas pipeline bill that she dusted off (it had been languishing for some 35 years) and got passed by the AK legislature and successfully negotiated with Canada.

In contrast, BO has been nothing but a get-along, go-alone errand boy for the political establishment in Chicago, arguably the most corrupt political machine in the country. As a state legislator his most notable actions have been active support for a bill promoting infanticide and for voting “present” on virtually every piece of important legislation in IL. In the US Senate he hasn’t even been around enough to vote present. As chair of a sub-committee on foreign relations, he’s not even bothered to call the committee into session, for example.

Then there’s Biden. In his term in the Senate, it’s marked by his active support of every anti-American cause since 1972, his support of the evisceration of the military that was too far left for even George McGovern, and for being on the wrong side of virtually every important issue for 35 years.

Our family will take the real accomplishment of McCain and Palin over the intellectual masturbation of Obama and Biden every day of the week.

I saw

pwest (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:54PM EST (link)

a magazine cover that had a picture of Sarah Palin on the front cover and the Headline was, “She’s one of us, and that’s the problem.”

See, in their mind, she’s not Ivy-League educated; therefore, she’s a dumb a@#. Moreover, we’ve had a dumb a@# in the White House for the last eight years. Now, mind you, the current occupent of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is an Ivy-League grad, but that’s not the point cause he’s still a dumb a@#.

So, if you go to an Ivy-League U and can’t pronouce words correctly, you’re an idiot, and if you don’t go to Ivy-League U, but can pronouce words correctly, only with a strange sounding accent, you’re an idiot.

Now do you understand their logic?

Pam

My intention

JakePrime (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:55PM EST (link)

I agree with you on that, hence my quotation marks. I think it’s a poor misrepresentation by the media and liberal talking heads that people on the right hate intellectuals and educated thought. I mean, really, who’s really got a beef with intelligence and education?

Heh.

mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:56PM EST (link)

Isn’t it interesting to note that Marxism is always sold by highly educated people who’ve actually accomplished nothing in their lives. And, usually by those who financially very comfortable through either the labors of their fathers or through “appealing to the masses” as snake oil salesmen.

No, you were merely pointing out that you are a damn fool.

mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 10:59PM EST (link)

That's why the left hates the right.

Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 11:01PM EST (link)

They are jealous of our intelligence and intelligent thought and wish they had some.

Tim Schieferecke

Intellectual accomplishments - Palin redefined feminism

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 11:13PM EST (link)

graduated college and figured out how to get Canada to agree to a pipeline from Alaska to the Lower 48.

McCain graduated college, survived pow torture for years and displaced Garner as Maverick.

Gore dropped out of seminary; became Ryan O’Neal, invented the internet, made millions on first book predicting eco disaster by 2002 and is making millions predicting the same 6 yrs hence.

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

You better move then.

oneman Thursday, October 23rd at 11:16PM EST (link)

There has been a degree of socialism in this country for decades. Social Security, taxes in general are redistribution of wealth, and many more gov’t programs. Now we have a 700 billion dollar rescue plan. Not that their wouldn’t be more programs under Obama, but to say there isn’t socialism already is just being dishonest.

It's too bad...

cwilson (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 11:19PM EST (link)

…that tarring and feathering counts as aggravated assault.

If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! –Samuel Adams

You better move then.

oneman Thursday, October 23rd at 11:26PM EST (link)

There has been a degree of socialism in this country for decades. Social Security, taxes in general are redistribution of wealth, and many more gov’t programs. Now we have a 700 billion dollar rescue plan. Not that their wouldn’t be more programs under Obama, but to say there isn’t socialism already is just being dishonest.

After her "oops, was that mike on?"

cwilson (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 11:29PM EST (link)

comments showing her to be a two-faced, lying suck-up to the left, Noonan is dead to me. I really don’t care what she says or thinks. I will not read her column. I change the channel when she appears. She’s done.

If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! –Samuel Adams

I guess you haven't heard of her role in getting a 40 BILLION DOLLAR gas pipeline going?

Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 11:32PM EST (link)

Or maybe you forgot to mention that insignificant little detail of her foreign policy experience. It does pass through Canada, and since our founders weren’t able to seize it way back when, I’m pretty sure it is still a foreign country. You need to read a little more before spouting gobblety gook.

Tim Schieferecke

Parker is, Brooks is not

Ezekiel (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 11:36PM EST (link)

Kathleen Parker is a southern SoCon who is syndicated in newspapers across the country.

Brooks is a PBS conservative. He’s the tomato can they trot out for their lightweight liberals to knock over when PBS tries to do a “both sides of the issue” shtick. He makes Alan Colmes look like Marvin Hagler.

“Be intolerant. Because some things are just stupid”
- Ryan Dobson

susanne the troll...

lonebeagle Thursday, October 23rd at 11:45PM EST (link)

The first Bush was the son of a Connecticut Senator. The second Bush was the son of a PRESIDENT. McCain is the son and grandson of U.S. Admirals. Do you really think Bush would have gotten into Yale, or McCain into Annapolis without affirmative action based on their ancestry?

Susanne you aren’t very bright–G.W. Bush is not running for President.

John McCain might have been the son and grandson of Admirals, but that’s NOT what made him a hero. John McCain EARNED his position in society the HARD WAY!

John McCain earned his current position in our country from his extraordinary courage and love for his country. You obviously don’t understand anything about the man or the price of freedom.

You are a troll who blathers on like an idiot.

John McCain and Sarah Palin are American success stories because they EARNED their achievements. B. Hussein Obama hasn’t earned anything for his entire life. Obama hasn’t achieved anything–what is his record?

He didn’t improve Chicago public schools. He didn’t do anything while in the Illinois Senate. He hasn’t done anything in the U.S. Senate.

Obama is the affirmative action Presidential candidate of the left.

He isn’t fit to shine the shoes of John McCain or carry the suitcases of Sarah Palin.

Obama had the BIGGEST SPOON...

lonebeagle Thursday, October 23rd at 11:52PM EST (link)

It’s called being black and an “underrepresented” minority.

Which resulted in affirmative action admissions to posh private universities.

Does anyone think that B. Obama would be where he is today if he was WHITE?! Or Asian (say, Chinese or Japanese)?

Of course not.

The left is in love with him because he is black.

That’s worth about $10,000,000,000.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

There are those in the Republican party that are much more concerned that we Look the part...

29Victor (Diary) Thursday, October 23rd at 11:52PM EST (link)

than act the part.

Who would rather have America run by country club liberals than red-necked conservatives.

Nicely put...

lonebeagle Thursday, October 23rd at 11:59PM EST (link)

You didn’t need to apologize because your post is indeed very eloquent and well written.

It seems that people who like Sarah Palin are thoughtful, well informed and intelligent. Just like Sarah Palin herself!

Congratulations.

Welcome aboard.

Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 12:09AM EST (link)

n/t

Tim Schieferecke

My intention was to support your proposition

JSobieski (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 12:12AM EST (link)

I think I must be more tired than I feel.

My one fear in having Palin on the ticket (I was a Palin backer before she got the VP spot) was that 2008 would be a tough year for a national emergence, and that she could be stained with McCain campaign for the rest of her career.

I have been quite pleased with how she has handled things, including her inevitable disagreements with McCain.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

 
 
 
 

Minority party?

left_of_center Friday, October 24th at 12:28AM EST (link)

I hope my handle makes my allegiances clear…I am an Obama supporter. I don’t come here to gloat (although that would be fun), but to ask a question….many of you sound like the Nader supporters back in the 2000 campaign…Gore just wasn’t liberal enough for some. Well, maybe not….and in return we got something far worse. Don’t some of you worry that by embracing the Palin movement (and I don’t doubt for a second the intensity of the devotion) and leaving behind the establishment conservatives whom Brooks, Will, Parker, and Noonan represent, that you risk exile in the political wilderness? Palin definitely has a fervent following, yes, but look at the huge percentages (close to 50% in most polls) of voters which have a negative view of her. Let’s face it, the hard-core right wing of the party has a solid 35-40% of the electorate, but you need another 10-15% to win an election. You need someone to appeal to independents. Someone like Huckabee, frankly, who espouses many of the same positions but talks a more moderate game, would be much electable, in my opinion. Thoughts?

 

The GOP is alienating voters

formerGOPer Friday, October 24th at 12:29AM EST (link)

In full disclosure, yes, I just joined Redstate. I used to visit here often but as a moderate Republican, I increasingly felt alienated by this site. While I understand some of the frustration many of you feel about the splintering of the party, I would urge you to take a more objective look at the GOP.

If you continue to rail against the Powells, Noonans, Wills, Parkers, and Brooks, you will soon find yourselves part of a very small club. I, along with many of my friends, used to be staunch supporters of the GOP. Not any more. As moderates, we have felt an increasing hostility from purists in the party.

I assume because of this post Moe will blam me and close my account. Too bad because I think Redstaters should be more open to dissent and to taking a hard look at the direction you all are taking the party. As I said, soon you will be a very small voice in a vast political wilderness. It doesn’t have to be that way.

So fine, keep pushing the non-purists out of the party. But you will soon find you are a tiny tribe screaming in the political wilderness. If the Republican party is to survive I would strongly encourage you all to stop pushing the moderates, independents, and others who might be sympathetic to many Republican values away.

I am a Republican in the mold of Colin Powell. I am not anti-American, I love my country deeply, and, until recently, was devoted to the Republican party. After nearly 25 years of voting for GOP candidates, I will soon cast my vote for Obama. I feel no longer welcomed by the party I so loved.

 

As a squishy moderate, you've never been "staunch" about anything meaningful to us.

Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 12:33AM EST (link)

I could really care less what you think. You can’t see anything without seeing meaningless shades of grey.

Tim Schieferecke

Are you going to riot when your messiah loses?

Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 12:35AM EST (link)

Reality is going to come crashing down on you soon. Don’t forget to vote on November 5.

Tim Schieferecke

There's a Pond, Over There To The Left

IJB Friday, October 24th at 12:36AM EST (link)

Please go jump in it. Thnx.

 
 
 

Appealing to only the base won't win

formerGOPer Friday, October 24th at 12:38AM EST (link)

Tim, you issued just the kind of response I predicted would come from Redstate. Fine, be hostile. But elections cannot be won by only appealing to the base. There simply aren’t enough Redstaters out there. The GOP must broadens appeal to include independents and moderates. You can hurl insults at us moderates all you want but that won’t get Republicans elected.

Why not think more strategically? What will win seats in the White House and Congress for Republicans? Certainly, not alienating folks like me who have been with the party a long time or by pushing away independents.

Continue preaching to the choir. You will only have a few voices singing with you.

 

Already, I'm insulted

formerGOPer Friday, October 24th at 12:44AM EST (link)

I try to post an honest assessment about the problems I see with the GOP and already I’m told I’m “squishy” and to jump in a pond. How does insulting someone who is coming here to voice concerns about a party she has campaigned hard for over the years help the GOP win elections. If you are alienating long-time supporters of the Republican party, imagine how many moderates and independents you are alienating.

You can’t win an election this way. The majority of voters are not hard-core Redstaters. They are moderates, middle of the road folks. You may not want to hear that but on election day you all will likely get a very harsh dose of reality.

And then what will you do? You will have lost any political power you once had.

 

I'm a proud Sarah Palin Republican

Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 12:45AM EST (link)

We are legion. We are many. You are idiot.

Tim Schieferecke

 

Squishy idiot?

formerGOPer Friday, October 24th at 12:50AM EST (link)

Tim, why the hostility? I came here in good faith to voice my opinion about the state of the GOP, of which I have long been a member. Do you really think insulting me and other moderates who also care about the party is going to help your cause?

Keep alienating people like me. You, Moe, and a few dozen other Redstaters will be marginalized politically. What good does that do for you and the issues you care about?

Insults like “idiot” don’t win over converts. Intelligent, respectful dialogue does.

I notice just above “post comment” it reads. “Be respectful, or be banned.” I have been respectful, but Tim, you have been downright rude. Yet, I predict I will be banned and you will be allowed to continue hurling insults at those who want to have an objective, honest, and respectful discussion.

Come follow me says "formerGop", I once was one of you, but you just ain't foolin' me!

Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 12:50AM EST (link)

n/t

Tim Schieferecke

I'll bite

cp4three2 Friday, October 24th at 12:51AM EST (link)

Reagan wasn’t popular in the party at first either. A lot of Republicans thought he was too conservative and wouldn’t be able to unify the country.

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a082474reagan&scale=0#a082474reagan

What are you discussing?

Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 12:54AM EST (link)

You came in here all passive aggressive whining that we’re all this, and your s#$% don’t stink, not me. You soft sold your insults of us, I just don’t mince words.

Tim Schieferecke

I didn't say "Come follow me"

formerGOPer Friday, October 24th at 12:56AM EST (link)

I was simply pointing out that there are many moderate Republicans who feel pushed out by purists like some at Redstate. You can continue along the path you’re going. But you are going to be very lonely along that road because you all keep pushing away allies.

You may not agree with David Brooks, Peggy Noonan, Colin Powell, or Christopher Buckley. But instead of summarily dismissing them, and worse, throwing venom at them, why not try to take an objective look at their criticisms. I, like many of my Republican friends, have serious concerns about Gov. Palin. If I say that here, all I get are insults instead of engaging and respectful discussion.

We can disagree without being disagreeable.

It's capital city snobbery generally.

Achance (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 1:01AM EST (link)

It’s an insiders’ game that you can feel in Sacramento, Olympia, Salem, Juneau, and, though I’ve never been there, I’m sure Albany and any other place the business of which is primarily government.

Everybody knows what the org charts look like and who’s where on them. They know who owes who, who’s screwing who, who gets invited to what parties; its all a ranking game and it is the rarest person who won’t be to some degree effected by it.

I must admit that since I retired, the thing I miss the most is not always being among the first to have the “inside story.”

In Vino Veritas

 
 
 
 
 
 

I said no such thing

formerGOPer Friday, October 24th at 1:02AM EST (link)

about my s&$#@ not stinking. I was pointing out that as a Republican I no longer feel welcome in the party. Just as Colin Powell expressed concerns about the tactics the party is employing.

I respect Colin Powell very much. To seem him denigrated by some here is disheartening. He has served his country honorably. You can disagree with him and many of us who echo his concerns without calling us names like “idiot”, “squishy”, “whiner”…

Why not take a step back and try to understand why many voters, including Republicans like me, are supporting Obama. It is not because we are anti-American socialists who hate our country.

Aha we finally get to the nut of it. You don't like Sarah.

Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 1:05AM EST (link)

Most of us think she’s da bomb. Plus, have you seen the way she can shoot an assault rifle? Vice President Palin is going to provide invaluable assistance in testing new firearms. Her input in such regards will aid national security. So, what is it you don’t like about Sarah? Is she too unapologetic about her conservatism? Is she too plain spoken that she embarrasses you? What? Sarah is a tsunami for washing away liberalism. She’s not polarizing unless you ask the MSM. She will be our first female president, and she will bring great honor to the office.

Tim Schieferecke

[sniff] You're breakin' my heart with your sob story

Bill S (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 1:07AM EST (link)

Tell us exactly what “Republican values” that Obama represents that you are voting for.

[crickets]

Answer? NONE. Because Obama represents NO Republican values.

You’re a concern troll. Goodbye.

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

 
 
 

you are a moby from Daily Krud

Doc Holliday (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 1:07AM EST (link)

and should be blammed soon. I told them to give me the blam stick, but they never listen to me.

Molon Labe!

Collin Powell

Doc Holliday (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 1:09AM EST (link)

was called an Uncle Tom, war monger, and a fool with blood on his hands just a week ago by your kind. You think we buy this crap? The only problem here is so few are allowed to ban, you will get it sooner or later.

Molon Labe!

Collin Powell

Doc Holliday (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 1:09AM EST (link)

was called an Uncle Tom, war monger, and a fool with blood on his hands just a week ago by your kind. You think we buy this crap? The only problem here is so few are allowed to ban, you will get it sooner or later.

Molon Labe!

 
 
 

I don't feel comfortable saying what I don't like about Palin

formerGOPer Friday, October 24th at 1:12AM EST (link)

I have seen how those who express reservations about Palin are treated here. They get raked over the coals. I have serious reservations about her but am afraid that if I voice them in detail I will simply be insulted. I don’t like that kind of communication. I prefer objective, respectful dialogue. If I got assurances that I won’t be called names and made fun of I will post specifics concerns about Gov. Palin. But seeing how Redstate treats respected generals like Colin Powell and authors like David Brooks and Peggy Noonan, I doubt I will be granted any respect.

Tim, you already have insulted me many times in just a few emails, so why would I want to dialogue with you any way? If Redstaters can’t have an open, candid and yes, respectful, discussion with Republicans who disagree with you, how are you ever going to win over enough voters to win an election?!

 

So, as a "Republican" (snicker) you like Powell are opposed to

Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 1:13AM EST (link)

any more Republican appointments to the Supreme Court?
And, (snicker), as a Republican (snicker), you believe that affirmative action should be considered in electing a president? And mind you, I’m not talking about affirmative action as a policy position, I’m talking about using it as a reason to elect an unqualified socialist tool like Obama? ha ha hardy ha ha ha!

Tim Schieferecke

If you're that stuck on stupid that you'd allow a socialist to gain hegemony over America,

Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 1:17AM EST (link)

I’m pretty sure “dialogue” of any sort with you is a meaningless exercise in hopeless futility without change.

Tim Schieferecke

 
 

Let me get this straight

formerGOPer Friday, October 24th at 1:17AM EST (link)

I voice my opinion in a respectful way but because I have a different perspective I should get blammed.

Yet, others here hurl insults at me, show no respect, and they can continue to post. Why then, does it say before you hit the “post comment” button to “be respectful, or be banned.”

How have I not been respectful? Why do my comments warrant being banned?

And the only other blog I read is HumanEvents. At least there they allow a diversity of opinions to be posted. I’ve never gotten banned there even though I post similar statements at that site. It appears the only criteria here is to agree with Redstaters. You can launch all the invective you want. Just don’t disagree.

Thank ya Doc, the OK Corral is full of soft serve socialist hombres tonight.

Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 1:21AM EST (link)

n/t

Tim Schieferecke

I'm playing the world's smallest violin.

Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 1:23AM EST (link)

Have some cheese with your whine.

Tim Schieferecke

yesiree

Doc Holliday (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 1:42AM EST (link)

target rich environment, but Erick and Moe won’t let me get my scattergun lol.

Molon Labe!

one reason is we are not liars

Doc Holliday (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 1:47AM EST (link)

this is the ‘net so you can say anything, and we have no reason to believe it. YOu have to gain credibility here. I top diary here even tries to give you trolls a chance. That is how sad you guys have become, we are actually feeling sorry for you.

your first mistake was the anti GOP moniker. Your second was this crap about the turncoat Powell. You must be really clueless if you thought any of us cared what he thinks, we didn’t yesterday, a week ago, or a year ago.

He was a piss poor Secretary of State, he quit when he was under fire, and he abondoned his friends. You are welcome to him, you and all your nutroot friends.

Molon Labe!

if by

Gary (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 2:52AM EST (link)

Thinking more strategically you mean compromising core principles, no thanks!

Speaking only for myself. I will never compromise my core beliefs even if it means never winning another election.

What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? ~Bible~

You know why there’s a Second Amendment? In case the government fails to follow the first one. -Rush Limbaugh~

Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive. ~Unknown~

Palin is appreciated because...

nogyro35 (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 2:56AM EST (link)

…. she has already proven capable of many of the conservative things we hope for from our national representatives. To understand the Palin effect on this election you have to understand why she represents much of the heartland of this country and elite America does not.

The main problem with elite America is how they value the ability to openly lie about something and make it believable. They call it being glib, slick tongued, or eloquent. However, life teaches you quickly that lying or eloquence doesn’t mean someone is able to produce what they promise. It just makes them a salesman their customers regret having met.

Listen to Governor Palin and you will find that it’s her life that reveals her character and her politics. She says she’s pro-life and that’s what you get. She had the child. Her daughter is having the child. You cannot underestimate the power of seeing a potential representative that is more than words.

Conservative America is not looking for perfection or academic intelligence in its representatives. We are looking for knowledge born of experience, achievement, and a love of THIS COUNTRY!!!

Without the genuineness representatives like Palin bring to elections, conservatives are seen as hypocrites by “moderates” and we lose.

I hope this helps your understanding.

you dont get more moderate

Gary (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 3:12AM EST (link)

Than McCain. So what exactly is it you are trying to say? For petes sake man let it go. We all get that you have been possesed by the power of the Teleprompter Jesus.

What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? ~Bible~

You know why there’s a Second Amendment? In case the government fails to follow the first one. -Rush Limbaugh~

Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive. ~Unknown~

Colin Powells concerns.......

Michael Dugas (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 3:22AM EST (link)

“…Colin Powell expressed concerns about the tactics the party is employing.”

Tactics WE are employing…oh that’s rich.
Like the massive voter fraud on the left and the unrecorded millions of illegal foreign donations. Barak telling his “peeps” to strongarm radio stations that don’t agree with him, trying to block McCains and Palin motorcade to prevent them from making appearances, voter intimidation at polls etc etc etc. You might find the single instance of a so called republican doing something like that
but with the left it’s a hugely manned, funded and organized crime ring.
…Our tactics….what a joke mr spin doctor. Sometimes I wish we were just a little more aggressive in our tactics but we respect the history and the process of elections. The vast majority of Republicans don’t look at elections as chances to cheat, commit fraud and pocket a lot of money.
Your insincerity and your disingenuous
attempts at civility mean nothing when all that you say is erroneous and fallacious.
And as far as all this respect for Powell, the man chose to support Obama because of his race. Given everything Powell has said in the past on his politics and beliefs there is no way that
I could conclude that he is backing Obama
for ideological reasons. Name me one other uber-left ultra progressive (gag)
politician that Powell has supported. There is none. So either he was being purposefully misleading in the past so as to gain access and acceptance in a republican administration or he is, in reality, a moronic one issue voter who has gone and done what we have been told for years is wrong and racist…and that is basing his support on one thing..skin color. If the only reason I supported McCain was because he is white I would be an idiot AND a racist. What does that make Powell?

Intro to Federalist Papers; section 5;
paragraph 4.
“…dangerous ambition more often lurks behind the specious mask of zeal for the rights of the people than under the zeal for a firm and efficient government.”

Remember: A Citizen on the dole is a Liberal Vote at the Polls.
END ENTITLEMENTS!

Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum !

Best line of the thread

seattle_ite Friday, October 24th at 3:55AM EST (link)

…But, I’m showing my age that I know who you’re talking about.

What she fails to grasp...

seattle_ite Friday, October 24th at 4:41AM EST (link)
  1. The Constitution was written in such a way that people with average education (of the day)could process its meaning. It was never intended to need lawyers, or ‘constitutional scholars’ for interpretation. Sadly, fewer people per year meet the education that some of the Founders felt was necessary, which is why we have ‘experts’ to explain the glaringly obvious.

  2. Our system of government was supposed to be a “Citizen Legislature”, or ‘government of, by and for the People’, not populated by career hacks. The Founders never envisioned an entrenched, unaccountable group of malcontents. “Everyman” was supposed to want to serve for a term or two, travelling a few times per year to meet, with a travel stipend being their only compensation. Then they WENT HOME. What do we have now? My impression of the current situation isn’t flattering.

  3. It has been proven throughout the ages that, though a decent education is necessary, when one thinks that they know it all, they’re deluding themselves. Upthread, somone mentioned that several of the worst dictators were very well educated. Have to second that assessment.

A healthy debate and disagreement is a good thing, generally. But I don’t feel that the crop of “R’s for O” are truly acting from their stated principles. I won’t guess at their true motives, but they sure ain’t conservatives.

Absolutely

seattle_ite Friday, October 24th at 4:59AM EST (link)

It is Principle that makes a good leader. If you have no values, anything goes. 20th Century history is replete with examples of that simple truth.

Everyone make an ill-advised decision, now and again. Following one through is the test of character. When all you see is a path to power, you lose sight of why you want to go there.

You do not coast

olderthangandalf Friday, October 24th at 6:15AM EST (link)

to being head guy on the Harvard Law Review.

Do you have any evidence that he coasted? That his grades and honors were due to affirmative action?

No, you don’t.

So where does that come from? From a conclusion you draw based solely on his skin color. There’s a word for that.

We, as a party, don’t need to go where you are going.

SO not the point

seattle_ite Friday, October 24th at 6:29AM EST (link)

Noonan, Brooks, et.al, are the same bunch that told us, early on, to get on the McCain bandwagon. They love the center/left, go-along-to-get-along republican candidates, and are shocked that such a conservative, effective woman is suddenly such a popular dynamo. They mis-underestimate the simple power of historical perspective. Reagan didn’t win in two landslides by trying to out-lib Carter. He was derided by these folks too, until they couldn’t sell books.

The Republican party has changed

olderthangandalf Friday, October 24th at 6:42AM EST (link)

I don’t consider myself a moderate or middle of the roader. I am, and have been, a think for myself conservative.

The blowhards in this thread don’t much like me either.

When I grew up, the Republican was the party of fiscal responsibility, public and private. The government was supposed to watch spending and balance its budget; individuals were supposed to save their money, send their kids to college so they would have a future, and generally try to build themselves and their communities up.

In terms of foreign policy, we wanted a strong country, but one that used its strength conservatively. We knew that no country is strong enough to right every wrong or fight every fight.

That’s not today’s Republican party. Today it is a party all about abortion, guns and wars. According to our vice president, deficits don’t matter. The private virtues also don’t matter.

Is it anti-intellectual, anti-education? You betcha. Sarah Palin is the face of this new Republican party. It’s a feature, not a defect, to be unable to get through a good school with good grades.

The new Republican party is not, in my opinion, a viable long term political organization. You can’t turn accomplishment and education into negatives, and that’s what the blowhards are doing, and not have it come back and bite you. You need intelligent, thoughtful, educated people to build a movement, and you don’t get them by insulting them.

I’m still fighting for what I believe are true conservative principles. When this election is over, and the move begins to coronate Sarah Palin as the leader elect, I will be in the front rows of those saying she is exactly what we do not need.

I may lose. I may be unpopular. But, to tell you the truth, if I cared about being with a near term winner and spouting the received wisdom, I never would have become a conservative in the first place.

Garfunkel, Schmit, Stills & Nash

blooch Friday, October 24th at 6:59AM EST (link)

Crosby too strung out free-basing to record, Neil gone solo…great song, though.

“Lieutenant Dike wasn’t a bad leader because he made bad decisions. He was a bad leader because he made no decisions.”

Exactly 'Becker: It's the very same set of intellectuals that have made such a fetish of "Bipartisanship" that ...

Martin Knight (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 7:19AM EST (link)

… so many Republicans in Congress (especially in the Senate) cannot move legislation unless it gets a Democrat’s seal of approval.

Heh...

skuld1 Friday, October 24th at 8:36AM EST (link)

Please list all of the Republican values that Obama supports…

So you're a fiscal conservative.

cwilson (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 8:40AM EST (link)

Fine. But the Republican party has been a coalition of three kinds of conservatives since Reagan brought us out of the wilderness of the post-Watergate years. We now call this the tripod: fiscal conservatives, social conservatives, and national security conservatives.

We used to define it differently: the spending hawks, the defense hawks (including the Scoop Jackson-ish members of the Reagan Democrats), and the Moral Majority wing (including the ‘disgusted at my previous party’s embrace of the cultural revolution’ members of the Reagan Democrats).

But, in general, the socons are fiscons. The natseccons are fiscons (except ‘do what it takes’ to defeat terrorism and win a war we are currently fighting). But, in general, fiscons (at least, people who explicitly SAY they are fiscons) are NOT socons. And they are usually NOT natseccons. You seem to be an obvious example.

Now, W and the republican legislators have not demonstrated ANY fiscal restraint over the last eight years. W, because he’s not really any kind of conservative — he ran in 2000 as a mushy “compassionate conservative” (emphasis on the former, not the latter) — and his tenure has demonstrated his motto (misreporting about Katrina notwithstanding): “When people are hurting, government has got to move”.

A far cry from Reagan’s “Government is the problem, not the solution.” and “The scariest words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the Government and I’m here to help.’”.

Republicans in Congress. Taken as a whole, those guys are members of the “re-election party”. They lost their faith in conservatism some time after the heady days of 1994, and in their vacuum of beliefs latched on to Delay’s K-Street strategy: spread around Other People’s Money and the lobbyists will help you continue the lifestyle you have become accustomed to — by helping you get re-elected, or, if that fails, by providing you a cushy new job after you lose. Either way, your kids can keep going to the same school and you don’t have to move back home.

But here’s the secret: the socons weren’t happy about runaway spending. The natseccons weren’t happy about runaway non-defense spending. (And, of course, true fiscons hated it, too). They Weren’t Doing It For Us. They Were Doing It For Themselves.

So don’t blame the other 2/3 of the base of the party for the errors of the people YOU elected. Why do I blame YOU, and not US for these shining examples of Legislative Self-interest? Because the elected Republicans with the WORST record with regards to spending are the ones that usually describe themselves as “fiscally conservative but socially liberal” — e.g. the so-called moderates beloved of Republicans who disdain the “abortion, guns, and wars” wings of the party.

Surprise: actual SoCon legislators and NatSecCon legislators have a BETTER record of supporting fiscally-conservative legislation than the “I’m fiscally conservative but socially liberal”-style fiscons — the people who can say with a straight face that the Republican Party (ie. the base) is “all about abortion, guns, and wars”. That is, the people who wish we could go back to the pre-Reagan-coalition post-watergate years, when “fiscons” were the only conservatives in town, and Republicans were happy losers who enjoyed rubbing shoulders at all the right parties with the liberal winners who got to pass price control legislation, wage control legislation, OSHA, EPA, Great Society, and all those other laws that allow D.C. to intrude into the individual lives of individual citizens a thousand times a day. And you guys think SOCONS want to control your life?

Now, my claim that socons (and natseccons) are better true fiscons than the self-proclaimed fiscons? Here’s your proof, considering the correlation of voting patterns between two “socon” bills and a famous fiscon effort, Tom Coburn’s anti-earmark amendments (H.R. 4241):

If someone voted against Embryo Destruction and for a Federal Marriage Amendment, it’s a fairly good bet that you’re dealing with a social conservative.

of the 19 Republicans were seen as obstructionists to H. R. 4241 (Tom Coburn’s anti-earmark amendments), only four of them (Johnson, Pickering, Jones and Ehlers) also voted with the majority of their Republican colleagues against the “Stem Cell Enhancement” (Embryo Destruction) bill. Similarly, less than half of these squishies voted with the majority of their colleagues on the Federal Marriage Amendment.

Not a single Republican Senator who opposed the Federal Marriage Amendment voted for the Coburn Amendment. Not a single Republican Senator who co-sponsored the latest Embryo Destruction bill voted for the Coburn Amendment.

Read the whole thing.

Also, “the social liberals in the Senate are the worst porkers in the entire Republican caucus.” From here.

So, how about, rather than whining about the other 2/3 of the tripod — without whom you “only fiscons” would still be wandering in the malaise of 1979 — how about we all try to spank some sense into ALL of our elected representatives, to support the ENTIRE conservative agenda. You need us, and we agree with you on those areas you SAY are the most important to you — fiscal responsibility.

Unless, of course, “fiscal responsibility” is just the smokescreen you’re using to oppose us, because promoting social libertinism and/or a weak defense are the true driving factor in your disdain for the “abortion, guns, and wars” wings?

If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! –Samuel Adams

Ike's grand-daughter endorsed Obama along with Chafee and Leach. Way before Palin was tapped by McCain.

Martin Knight (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 8:53AM EST (link)

This is all on record. That no MSM reporter will challenge her on this is only to be expected though.

Obama refuses till date to release his grades/transcripts ...

Martin Knight (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 8:54AM EST (link)

I really doubt he’s as brilliant as he’s made out to be.

And I’m black.

There is another way

MikeO Friday, October 24th at 9:09AM EST (link)

I don’t have to be a racist to read or listen to his confused utterances on Heller and the Second Amendment and conclude that Senator Obama is stupid.

It could be that he doesn’t have the mental horsepower to grasp how he contradicts himself.

It could be that he thinks himself slick enough to hide his contradictions from us rubes.

Either way he is stupid, and I don’t need to know the color of his skin to conclude thus.

Fallon: People like Brooks, Buckley, et al. don't consider Krugman, Herbert, Sullivan to be their peers - they take them to be their superiors.

Martin Knight (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 9:10AM EST (link)

That’s why they do everything to get a pat on the head from these folks.

I meant she is too old and ugly to kiss

Tbone (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 9:38AM EST (link)

my butt. My butt has its standards!

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

FL swing voters supporting Obama

formerGOPer Friday, October 24th at 10:08AM EST (link)

See today’s Miama Herald http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/florida/story/739225.html

I post this because last night I expressed my opinions about how some in the Republican party are alienating more moderate and independent voters. I am one of those moderate Republicans who feels pushed out of a party I have long supported.

I am not asking folks here to compromise their principles. I’m urging you to modify your tactics, tone down the harsh rhetoric and stop with the insults. If some of us disagree with those at Redstate and we express them respectfully, why, then, are we first insulted and then ultimately banned from the site?

Apparently, swing voters in key battleground states don’t like the negative tone of the campaign. They appear to be moving in Obama’s direction. Republicans can get out its message in a way that is convincing without being harsh and alienating. If the GOP wants to win this election, I hope it will modify its tactics to sound more inclusive. Otherwise, moderates and independents will keep flocking to Obama. Is that what Redstaters want?

Hmmmm.... The Miami Herald endorsed Obama.

janis (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 10:14AM EST (link)

We should believe whatever “info” they have come up with? I’ve read most of your remarks so far and have only one thing to say to you–if you don’t like the GOP as it is today, then you aren’t going to like what it becomes in the next few years either. We intend to raise up conservative candidates that will make you every bit as uncomfortable as Sarah Palin does now.

You can go be an elitist over in that corner with David Brooks, Kathleen Parker and Peggy Noonan.

Simple: you don't like us, you don't have our best interests at heart...

Moe Lane (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 10:19AM EST (link)

…and you want us to lose.

Do you people really think that we haven’t noticed that all of these “life-long Republicans” always have a fresh gmail or hotmail account?

Sheesh.

Moe Lane

PS: You should have been more comfortable expressing your true feelings towards Sarah Palin: as you can see, not doing so didn’t save you, and maybe letting it all out would have kept you from taking it out on a random female close to you.

Blam.

YES YES Mr. 10 hour Wonder

PaRep (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 10:21AM EST (link)

NOT the “UNDECIDEDS” are older White People who voted overwhelming for Bush in 2004!!

YEP that definitely sounds like Obama voters to me SPARKY !!

So let me get this straight ... formerGOPer.

Martin Knight (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 11:08AM EST (link)

Are you saying you’re actually in favor of Republican policies on substance but are voting for Democrats because you prefer their presentation?

Let me ask you a question; where were you when Howard Dean, Chairman of the Democratic National Committee stood in front of a gathering of Democrats in Manhattan and proudly pronounced to them and the whole world;

I hate the Republicans and everything they stand for …

Apparently, that didn’t bother you, did it?

You're being more polite to the ghost than I would have been, Martin.

Moe Lane (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 11:12AM EST (link)

Of course it didn’t bother him: he agreed with it all along, of course.

olderthangandalf, can I write you in on my ballot?

ZootSuit (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 11:17AM EST (link)

Especially if Shadowfax#Shadowfax) will be part of your Cabinet.

[Geeky Middle-Earth reference]

***** Unrepentant African-American nationalist, Unapologetic African-American conservative!

As a graduate from an elite law school

JSobieski (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 2:38PM EST (link)

I know making Editor-and-Chief of a law review is not about having the finest legal mind.

I also know that there are highly politicized courses one can take and get easy A’s for spouting off the liberal left line.

I also know that Obama has not released his transcripts.

Being a believer in inferential evidence, I have every reason to believe that Barack’s second and third years of law school were filled with classes on neo-realism–gender, race, and poverty studies.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

Never said I wasn't a social conservative

olderthangandalf Friday, October 24th at 2:45PM EST (link)

For example, I think the family is important and that marriage is important. I believe that people should wait until they are in a committed marriage before having kids. I believe parents should spend time with their kids, know what’s going on in their lives, and see that they keep their grades up and their noses clean. And, while I am capable of having compassion for people who don’t quite manage that, I’m against making them into some kind of social hero a la Jamie Lynn Spears. It’s called the culture war, and I remember quite well which side of it I’m on; I don’t abandon my side or my principles because of perceived short term political advantage.

Why do I suspect

olderthangandalf Friday, October 24th at 3:09PM EST (link)

that your “elite” law school is actually not in the top 10, and probably not in the top 25? And why do I think your belief that law review editorships are not related to talent is based on your brilliance being passed over for those honors?

Even at Harvard, which has perhaps the most liberal law faculty in the nation, you can’t fill up your schedule with the kind of stuff you suggest, and, again, there’s no reason other than Obama’s skin color to suggest he did.

He hasn’t released his grades, but we do know he graduated magna cum laude. Harvard Law graduates a summa cum laude about once ever fifteen years, so magna is about as top grade wise as you can get from Harvard. I’ve known quite a few Harvard Law magnas, and every one of them, liberal or conservative, was very smart.

Then why are you parroting the "abortions and guns" liberal canard upthread?

Martin Knight (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 3:09PM EST (link)

The point cwilson was making, which seems to have sailed over your head is that the argument (commonly made by the so-called “moderates“) that the social conservative wing of the party is at the heart of the GOP’s departure from fiscal conservatism during the Bush years is simply not true.

cwilson correctly points out that SoCons in Congress continue to post up records on fiscal issues that are often far and away better than almost all of the GOP’s “moderates” that go around tsk-ing at us on television shows in front of liberal audiences.

And contrary to the mewlings of liberals and so-called “moderates“, Conservatives do value education and achievement. Obama has not released his transcripts from any of the colleges he attended. He has no record of achievement beyond getting the cadences right in reading a teleprompter, writing two memoirs at the age of 47 and compiling a record in voting “present” in the Illinois Senate.

Palin, despite being the thoroughly uneducated dunce you seem to think she is, somehow managed to shepherd through a deal to build a $40 billion pipeline from her state through another country to the lower 48. She’s been successfully governing a state with an environment so extreme that it offers challenges no other Governor faces – voting “present” was/is not an option.

Sheesh …

Susanne!!!

From ME to You (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 3:22PM EST (link)

Please note: Service Schools (West Point, Annapolis, A.F Academy, et. al.) do not base their class rankings solely on academic scores like civilian schools. His ranking could have been lowered for reasons not related to academics, such as getting a demerit for his shoes not being polished to an acceptable level or even giving an improper salute!

Senator McCain could have been at the higher end of his class academically but had his class ranking lowered because of his ‘maverick’ tendencies regarding the military aspect of the service academy.

Also, please note that had his academic scores not been acceptable he would not have been accepted into pilot training!

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Couple of points, Martin

olderthangandalf Friday, October 24th at 4:50PM EST (link)

1) Social conservatism is more than being pro-life. Palin seems to be of the opinion that so long as you are pro-life your social conservatism is not to be questioned. I do not agree. It’s how you live.

2) We don’t have Obama’s transcript, but we do know he was Magna Cum Laude at Harvard. Since Harvard graduates people Summa Cum Laude once in a blue moon (Has there even been one since Peter Huber?), that’s the highest honor they give most years, assuming you don’t count President of the Law Review. Even though Harvard has an almost uniformly liberal faculty (and the one known Republican, Charles Fried, resigned from the McCain campaign today, citing Sarah Palin as the reason), it takes a lot more than being liberal and having a good narrative to make Magna. Exams are graded anonymously, same as at all major law schools, and you have to deliver the goods to get the grades. Here’s the point: Obama is smart. He’s wrong, as smart people often are, on a host of issues, and we may pay for his being wrong, but wrong and stupid are two entirely different things.

3) As of today, no pipeline has been built or is scheduled to be built on account of anything Palin did. What she accomplished was forcing through a $500 million payment to a Canadian oil company to study the feasibility of pipeline. They are under no obligation to build it. The oil companies are under no obligation to put gas into it if it is built. The pipeline owner is under no obligation to deliver that gas to the US instead of to, say, Alberta, Canada, if it is built and the gas is put into it. It may end up being a huge coup and a visionary accomplishment, but right now it’s just a risky gamble of a half billion dollars of tax payer money.

1. And your evidence that Palin has lived a less than exemplary life as a SoCon is what ...?

Martin Knight (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 5:51PM EST (link)
  1. So Obama graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard. Cool. How does this translate to the supposition that Sarah Palin’s IQ in the low single digits? How does this translate to your belief that she has a disdain for education and achievement?

  2. On the gas pipeline; she has gotten it to the stage where it’s in the hands of the Federal government. It’s now out of her hands. Whether or not it ends up becoming a reality and a benefit to the United States, you cannot argue that she’s a person of no accomplishments.

She spent $500 million

olderthangandalf Friday, October 24th at 6:14PM EST (link)

of taxpayer money and got no commitment in return. That’s an accomplishment. Fiscally conservative – maybe not. It’s easy to spend hundreds of millions without showing a definite result. It may still work out, but if a private company CEO spent money that way they might not even get their golden parachute.

As for what Magna shows – it isn’t about Sarah Palin; it’s about your repeated assertion that we know nothing about how Obama did at Harvard. We know, in fact, that he did very, very well in a system where exams are graded anonymously. He is still wrong in his basic approach toward government, but it’s not because he’s stupid.

Here’s the bottom line: John McCain and Sarah Palin are leading the Republican party headlong to a disastrous defeat of historic proportions. First step in coming back is acknowledging that Palin and all she represents is a huge part of the problem. Had McCain picked anyone else, we would have at three or four more Senators and a dozen more Congressmen next spring. McCain may be “amused” but he contributed mightily to this disaster. There is no reason for the rest of us to pretend not to see what we see; we need to start figuring out how to rebuild what was a great party before Bush-McCain very near destroyed it.

Don't like the negative tone of the campaign?

izoneguy (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 6:21PM EST (link)

Look at the negatives surrounding Obama. The tone of the campaign has to go nuclear in order to be heard above the roar of the MSM ass-kissing Obama.

My friend I would be more worried about the negative tone of the country and the disaster that would befall it if led by a president Obama.

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.

The dumbest guy I ever hired was a

Tbone (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 6:29PM EST (link)

MCL from Princeton Law. Another complete idiot was a Harvard grad who was a University President that I got fired when I was on the Board of Regents. So, don’t give me the Ivy League crap.

Personally, I think that Obama may be only marginally literate because he didn’t publish in the Review, he didn’t get a clerkship, iyt is obvious that Ayers wrote “Dreams” and the few writings I have read of his are pedantic to say the least.

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

Now we get to it: what, in your opinion, does Palin "represent?"

Martin Knight (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 6:55PM EST (link)

BTW, olderthangandalf: answer Martin's question in your next post.

Moe Lane (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 6:58PM EST (link)

I’m kind of curious, myself.

She represents me, Martin.

c17wife (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 7:06PM EST (link)

And obviously that is offensive to some.

I am Sarah Palin. Her story, is my story. And we make NO apologies.

Duty is ours, outcomes belong to God.~Mike Pence

I just want to see what OTG thinks Palin "represents" that is so completely *awful* ...

Martin Knight (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 7:13PM EST (link)

Hey c17. Est ist kalt im Deustchland, ja?

University of Michigan has been in the top ten ever since rankings were published

JSobieski (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 7:55PM EST (link)

Your instincts are grap.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

You absolutely can fill up your second and third year schedules with political garbage

JSobieski (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 8:00PM EST (link)

Many people “write on” to law review instead of making it by grades. Law review does take time, and being Editor in Chief is an honor, but it doesn’t mean that worked particularly hard or that he is particularly smart.

If he was truly a law school egg-head he would have clerked for the US Supreme Court, which is what the true law school egg-heads do.

I am an IT lawyer and I was an editor for the Michigan Telecommunications and Technology Law Review—one of the first online law reviews in the country. I did not clerk after law school, but I didn’t take pap courses either.

Our higher education system has a lot of fat in it outside of the technical fields.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

Obama never published any articles of his own

JSobieski (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 8:04PM EST (link)

Not as a law student on law review.

Not as a professor.

Given that he has not released his transcripts, and his entire life seems to be an attempt to leave no paper trails, I have the right to be skeptical.

I am skeptical of our system of higher education outside of technical fields.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

He published a case comment

olderthangandalf Friday, October 24th at 9:21PM EST (link)

Agreed with an Illinois Supreme Court decision that fetuses cannot sue their mothers.

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprofblog/files/obamacase_comment.pdf

It wasn’t signed, in accord with the standard Harvard practice, but it has been confirmed to be Obama’s work.

:ka-click: I'm not in the habit of repeating myself, olderthangandalf.

Moe Lane (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 9:30PM EST (link)

Obama probably could have had a S Ct Clerkship

olderthangandalf Friday, October 24th at 9:33PM EST (link)

Not everyone who could get a Supreme Court clerkship tries to get one.

One of my co-clerks almost certainly could have had one, but decided not to apply for personal reasons. Another friend chose to do a White House fellowship, but odds are high that if he preferred he could have clerked for the court.

It is a matter of public record that Obama was offered a DC Circuit clerkship by Abner Mikva, who at the time was a feeder judge to the Court (one of the clerks at the Court my year as a clerk was, indeed, a Mikva clerk). He turned it down. As a general rule, if the President of the Harvard Law Review wants to clerk on the Court, they get a clerkship. That would have been doubly true for the first black President, I suspect; I can’t imagine that one or another of the liberal justices would not have snapped him up. It’s interesting and a bit intriguing that he skipped adding that standard little resume builder, but it’s pretty certainly not because he would have been turned down.

Write ons to law review are not necessarily less smart or intellectual than those who grade on (I graded on to my school’s law review, so I’m not being defensive here). Being able to write on also requires intelligence. Again, though, we know that Obama’s classwork was good, because he graduated Magna Cum Laude. At Harvard, exams are graded blind, and while there is affirmative action for admissions there’s no affirmative action curve in grading.

Obama is wrong on a lot of important issues, but it’s not because he’s dumb. To repeatedly assert that he’s substandard intellectually with nothing to present as proof other than his race takes you to places where you don’t want to be.

They never listen.

Moe Lane (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 9:37PM EST (link)

Is there anyone at U of C Law School with fewer published articles then Barack Obama?

JSobieski (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 9:45PM EST (link)

A case comment does not an article make.

They guy went on to become a professor and still published . . . nothing.

There is a reason why is SAT, LSAT, Columbia transcript, and Harvard transcript have not been released.

I’ll bet the course descriptions alone, if read on the 7pm news, would lower his polls by 5%.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

I didn't say that he couldn't get a clerkship, I said fewer Presidents/Editors-in-Chief of law reviews end up clerking for the Supremes

JSobieski (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 9:47PM EST (link)

nt

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

Bless you

Putter (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 9:49PM EST (link)

n/t

Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies…

AMEN

Terilyn Donaldson (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 9:52PM EST (link)

n/t

SURVIVING IN WYOMING…


Never said he was dumb--said his Harvard pedigree is overrated

JSobieski (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 9:56PM EST (link)

I said he coasted, which all indications are that he did.

There is a reason why Obama hasn’t released his transcripts.

There is a reason why Obama hasn’t released his LSAT/SAT scores.

There is a reason why his undergrad thesis at Columbia disappeared.

There is a reason as to why Obama published nothing, even as a professor at U of Chicago law school.

Are you even curious as to what those reasons are?

Publish or perish, unless you are Obama.

His actual intellectual abilities must be far less than his reputation. Moreover, releasing transcripts is pretty much required to get a job, right?

There is every reason in the world to draw a negative inference from the collection of facts pertaining to Obama’s college and law school days. I peg him to be one of those post-modern legal scholars who spend all their time pontificating about the racism of Western society when it was Western society that actually ended slavery around the world.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

and I'm white, and i know people who coast, because thats what I did in law school

JSobieski (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 9:58PM EST (link)

Only my version of coasting didn’t involve left-wing indoctrination classes—I just coasted on the classics.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

I love RedState!!!

Terilyn Donaldson (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 10:25PM EST (link)

LOL

SURVIVING IN WYOMING…


You never did actually answer the question

Terilyn Donaldson (Diary) Friday, October 24th at 10:35PM EST (link)

Hmmmm, must be a BO supporter.

So,

Tell us exactly what “Republican values” that Obama represents that you are voting for.

SURVIVING IN WYOMING…


Proven to my satisfaction...

seattle_ite Saturday, October 25th at 3:19AM EST (link)

…that a person with a very good education, doesn’t necessarily have any sense.

Besides, invoking Mikva...

seattle_ite Saturday, October 25th at 3:29AM EST (link)

…doesn’t always qualify as a good endorsement. I lived in Mikva’s Chicago, and it wasn’t all that some would like to think.

That, of course, is the true issue

seattle_ite Saturday, October 25th at 3:43AM EST (link)

When was the last time a truly conservative candidate, or proposal, lost when given a chance to speak to the voters? I was terribly disappointed in the nod for Dole in ’96, and had the same dread when Mac was nominated. The Palin pick has me, if not excited, at least less dreadful.

Cannot agree more

seattle_ite Saturday, October 25th at 3:49AM EST (link)

I’m tired of the “go-along-to-get-along” crowd in D.C. How many times does one need their hand bitten, before they stop reaching across the aisle????

As opposed to...

seattle_ite Saturday, October 25th at 4:01AM EST (link)

…Gore and Kerry who, though left of center, aren’t nearly such ardent leftists as “The One”? Maybe you weren’t paying attention back in the day, but Reagan didn’t rise to the heights by pandering to Lib causes.

This ticket was, at best, lukewarm before the Palin pick. Conservative positions still resonate with the true majority of Americans.

Absolutely right. McCain will lose

SeriousLaff (Diary) Saturday, October 25th at 4:02AM EST (link)

because he didn’t do very much to win.

Obama is a seriously flawed candidate that could have been beaten if McCain had opened his mouth and gone after him. The ammunition was there with Hoover tax policies, drivers licenses for illegas, global poverty act, share the weath, turning social security into a welfare program. The list goes on and on.

Ten days before the election isn’t the time to start scaring the electorate with the truth. The debates would have been a good time to start.

Go ahead, list your concerns.

seattle_ite Saturday, October 25th at 4:10AM EST (link)

We’d love to hear ‘em… Then shoot ‘em down.

Blame McCain for the Senate as well

SeriousLaff (Diary) Saturday, October 25th at 4:11AM EST (link)

They may have 60 votes in the Senate. We can partially thank McCain for this as well. His immigration bill angered so many Republicans last election and that helped lose the Senate. Now, those that are left have there hands tied when it comes to fund raising by what McCain has done with campaign finance.

McCain would be far better than Obama, but that is in no way a complement to McCain.

Excellent rebuttal, Wilson

seattle_ite Saturday, October 25th at 4:18AM EST (link)

Can’t top that, sincerely.