Not in Ayers’ living room.

He also held a coffee (or tea) at the home of a Rabbi before the Ayers coffee, which was arranged by Illinois state Senator Palmer.

Lynn Sweet, respected journalist, writes about it here:

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/10/ayersalonedidnotlaunch_oba.html

Hillary will be there. Whatever is she up to?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/15/clinton-looms-over-presidential-debate/

[This was a duplicate of the caveman's vid below. The caveman, by the bye, is not permitted to sign up to this site again under any alias, but he might try again. They wish to be under skin, pounding on nerves.]

McCain bangs this drum at his own peril. Fact is, the public doesn’t care about Ayers, and would rather hear about the economy. That’s why Obama said (paraphrasing) “I bet he doesn’t have the guts to bring it up in a debate.”

Ayers is a not-so-subtle trap. Will McCain keep falling into it?

Help!!!

Blah, blah, blah….

…if John McCain keeps bringing his knife to the gunfight, and does NOT mention…

Ayers, ACORN support, Abortion/or at least the 3 votes for infanticide, Rev. Wright, the Obamanian lies about taxes, Marxist redistribution of wealth, and how wrong Obama has been on Iraq and international terrorism?

I suspect we will be bored again, and that McCain will not be pointing out the most deleterious aspects of the Obama plan for the Obamanation.

Maybe I am wrong, and maybe such an approach will work.

What say ye?

I have 2 points:

1) Don’t troll from an account registered within the last 48 hours. It’s obvious.

2) It’s not worth it. If you think Ayers is less important than the economy, then by having Redstate/McCain talk about Ayers means you’re winning! If you’re actually afraid of the Ayers issue, then don’t waste your time trying to convince Redstaters, go out and canvass or phonebank.

Trolling wastes everyone’s time. Especially your own.

for setting bombs,

So, would Mr. Ayers do it all again, he is asked? ”I don’t want to discount the possibility,” he said.

It proves he hasn’t retired as a terrorist. It also indicates he may be carrying on other sub-rosa activities that are just as bad that possibly will also result in violence.

The Kidz are here in force.

Two theoretical situations:

Situation the first: Obama says “Economy, economy. Business. Unfair distribution of wealth. Weakening dollar.” McCain says “Ayers! Abortion! ACORN!”

Situation the second: Obama says “Economy, economy. Business. Unfair distribution of wealth. Weakening dollar.” McCain says “Capitalism. Necessary but tragic bailout. No wealth redistribution. No to socialism. I oppose the socialism of the bank buyout. There is daylight between the two of us on fiscal issues and Obama is bad on fiscal issues.”

From where I sit, McCain is a lot more likely to pick up votes by hammering Obama on the second than by hammering him on the first.

There are more votes out there to be tapped on the issue of the economy than on the issue of Ayers, abortion, and ACORN.

I might sounds a little crazy saying it, but I think that the associations issue is more of an issue than the economy for a Presidential campaign.

The economy will be a major issue, but either of the candidates will have advisors around them that will help them out. However, the advisors that the President chooses to surround himself with is his choice and his alone. Barack has a track record of the kinds of advisors he likes to pick.

If you look at the numbers on the CBS/NYT poll that the media is referencing to say that people are sick of the attacks on BO’s character, you’ll find that they surveyed approx. 39% Dems, 32% Independents and 29% Republicans. The more this goes on, the more I think they are so scared that they are trying to influence the McCain campaign by skewing the numbers. Hopefully it won’t work.

They are only of value as part of a larger story and not as a main line of attack. For goodness sakes, the CBS poll shows that voters think McCain is more likely to raise taxes than Obama!

The Dow is down 550 points as I type this. Most Americans don’t give a crap about Ayers or Acorn or Odinga or any of that other stuff. They’ve seen Obama on TV for 2+ years and don’t see him as a wild eyed radical. So, barring photos of Obama building a bomb with Ayers, there is not enough time to convince 50% of the electorate that Obama is a terrorist sympathizer.

McCain needs to focus on the economy. He needs to divorce himself from Bush as much as possible on spending. My preference would be for him to ditch Palin, but that’s not going to happen. The path to a McCain victory is not to make him more appealing to the true believers of the GOP. That gets you 20-25% of the vote. As much as my fellow RedStaters might hate to admit, the path to victory goes right through the mushy middle.

As I have posted in several essays yesterday and today, there is no reason why McCain – deftly, as stated above – could not include a variety of issues injurious to the Big Brobama and center them around the economy.

Allow me to quote myself from yesterday: McCain could say

“The radical terrorists, whom Obama associated with, will not give us the answers we need for today’s economic problems! We need answers like mine, which give Americans more economic freedom, lower taxes, cuts in wasteful government spending, and an end to government corruption. The radicals who wanted to bomb America, like Senator Obama’s friend Ayers, and have influenced the senator will not offer us the positive economic ideas we need.”

But I would not bet a buckeye on hearing that tonight.

A campaign ad like this would be nice though!

While I understand the desire for many here to see him attack Obama on Ayers, it’s just not a smart political move. The DOW just lost 750 points today. Is it really the narrative you want to run with when people are scared to death of their economic future?

McCain wins by showing leadership. I’m sure we all remember President Bush with the bullhorn after 9/11. While it’s not fair to compare the two instances, this is a crisis as well, albeit financially. People have lost 20-40% of their retirement savings, people are losing jobs left and right, and more will come.

John McCain can win by having that bullhorn moment. By assuring people that this will be fixed, that he will fight for it, and that he is the guy you want to go into battle with. That he has the plan, that he is the one who is going to make those crooks pay for what they’ve done to us all. When a crisis hits, we want that leader to step up and tell us he will have our back.

It’s just my humble opinion, so take it for what it’s worth. I just don’t think whining about negative ads and Obama’s past connections are working. Time to find a new narrative, and being that powerful stallworth in the face of uncertainty is what will win over the American voters. Bringing up Ayers on a night when the DOW dropped almost 800 points is just asking for backlash.

I think a great line for McCain tonight would be in regards to leadership. “In this time of uncertainty we need a leader in the white house, not someone with an ability to read a tele prompter well. Leadership can be gauged most accurately by the character of an individual, and that character can be clearly seen by the allies and the choices we make. Barack Obama has made various alliances throughout his career with people who believe america is evil and must be changed. That it’s good, and hardworking populace that believe in family values, working hard, and striving for the american dream have too much and should patriotically be taxed more. His choices, clearly demonstrated in his record, have been to spread the wealth around. He voted to increase taxes on people making $42,000 a year. More telling than anything was his stance on the rights of an unborn baby, Barack Obama said it was “above my pay grade” in defining when that baby receives human rights. His character is obvious based upon the alliances and choices he has made paint a clear picture of Obamas leadership abilities. And the job of President of the United States is obviously above his pay grade.”

At least thats how I would do it!

Back when Bill Ayers was supposed to be bombing buildings — by the way, he was acquitted, so he’s NOT a terrorist — he was protesting the Vietnam war.

And the idea that he’s “unrepentent”? They asked if he’d do it all again, and he said he might. That is, if we were in another war like Vietnam, would he protest? You bet he might. So would I. A lot of us who are old enough to remember Vietnam would protest just as loudly today, and some of us did when the Iraq war was conceived. Trust me, if they’d tried to draft kids to go to Iraq, some empty buildings might have been blown up, too.

By the time Obama knew Ayers, the former radical had become a well-respected professor of Education at the University of Illinois. The board that Ayers recruited Obama for was on behalf of the conservative Annenberg Foundation. By screaming “terrorist,” you devalue what Ayers was back then, and the fine and upstanding citizen he has become, by all accounts.

You know who are really unrepentent terrorists? Think G. Gordon Liddy and Oliver Stone, who today each take pride in their illegal acts. Both of which, by the way, are big McCain supporters. For whatever that’s worth.

Ayers was proudly stomping on the American flag as of 2001. And I believe Obama was still in contact with him afterwards.

This Ayers issue has become a movie that’s be rerun for the 100th time. It’s not a front burner issue any more. In fact it’s not even on the stove and it will not help McCain one bit. The issues McCain needs to hammer away on are foreign policy and the economy, although by now the time left leaves those items a day late and a dollar short.